Re: New Nvidia card

[Leigh Scott]

I doubt changing current hardware will make any difference unless it's faulty.
___
rpmfusion-users mailing list -- rpmfusion-users@lists.rpmfusion.org
To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-users-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org

Re: New Nvidia card

[Dave Pawson]

On 20 June 2017 at 13:45, Ed Greshko  wrote:

> EVERYTHING you need is supplied by rpmfusion.  That is the entire reason 
> behind using
> rpmfusion.  I assumed (yeah my mistake) was that since you were on this list 
> and
> based on your previous comments/questions I thought you were aware of this.

Simpler answer indeed, yes, sorry to waste bandwidth Ed.
Thanks.

I shan't bother to answer Reindl.

regards





-- 
Dave Pawson
XSLT XSL-FO FAQ.
Docbook FAQ.
http://www.dpawson.co.uk
___
rpmfusion-users mailing list -- rpmfusion-users@lists.rpmfusion.org
To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-users-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org

Re: New Nvidia card

[Ed Greshko]

On 06/20/17 18:38, Dave Pawson wrote:
> On 20 June 2017 at 11:19, Ed Greshko  wrote:
>> On 06/20/17 18:05, Dave Pawson wrote:
>>> thanks Ed.. That leads to a ...run file (assume x86 binary).
>> Yes, for you it leads to "dnf install akmod-nvidia"
> Beg to differ (not what I saw? / I misunderstood your comment?)
> The file is
> 75096990 Jun 20 11:02 NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-375.66.run
>
> from http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/118290

Well, something is getting lost in translation.

Let me try to summarize where I thought we were.  First of all, you are on the
rpmfusion list asking about if you should get a particular nVidia card to 
support
video editing.  Various folks responded, including myself.  To me, since I do 
editing
with an older card, it isn't so important.

Now since you're on the rpmfusion list and you asked the question

"And does the akmod-nvidia work OK with the 1050ti?I've done the song and 
dance
previously - I kept getting caught out when the akmod-nvidia was a day or two 
behind
kernel updates!"

I then thought I cleared up the confusion between "akmod" and "kmod" since if 
you are
using "akmod-nvidia" you *can't* get caught in any way since the purpose of
"akmod-nvidia" is to build the kmod-nvidia packages (which hold the modules 
needed
for a kernel) so it matters not if rpmfusion repos have the newest kmod-nvidia.

We then got into discussion on if your card is supported.  I probably should 
just
have said "Yes, akmod-nvidia supports the new card you want to buy".   But, I 
think I
gave you too much information.  I was *only* trying to describe to you how to
determine what flavor of akmod-nvidia to install for any given HW. 

akmod-nvidia   (mostly the latest and greatest HW which uses the version 375.66 
driver)
akmod-nvidia-340xx   (older HW which uses the version 340.102 legacy drivers)
akmod-nvidia-304xx   (even older HW which uses the version 304.135 legacy 
drivers)

>
> (hence my question re 'magic' as you describe it (and I'd agree)
> the integration of of nvidia driver and dnf package from rpmfusion
> )
>
> Does rpmfusion wrap this  driver and update/download it.. or should I install 
> it
> from the .run file above, then let akmod associate it with my kernel?
> I think that is what I understand from
> https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/NVIDIA#Installing_the_drivers
>
EVERYTHING you need is supplied by rpmfusion.  That is the entire reason behind 
using
rpmfusion.  I assumed (yeah my mistake) was that since you were on this list and
based on your previous comments/questions I thought you were aware of this.


___
rpmfusion-users mailing list -- rpmfusion-users@lists.rpmfusion.org
To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-users-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org

Re: New Nvidia card

[Dave Pawson]

Thanks John, that was my sticking point.

I'll search Fedora forum (is that the one you meant?).
PSU is no problem, 500W currently, card is only 75W.
Whether it is an app issue rather than hw- I really don't know.

Tks



On 20 June 2017 at 13:02, John Pilkington  wrote:
> On 20/06/17 11:47, Dave Pawson wrote:
>>
>> On 20 June 2017 at 11:41, Reindl Harald  wrote:
>>
 Beg to differ (not what I saw? / I misunderstood your comment?)
 The file is
 75096990 Jun 20 11:02 NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-375.66.run

 from http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/118290

 (hence my question re 'magic' as you describe it (and I'd agree)
 the integration of of nvidia driver and dnf package from rpmfusion
 )

 Does rpmfusion wrap this  driver and update/download it.. or should I
 install it
 from the .run file above, then let akmod associate it with my kernel?
 I think that is what I understand from
 https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/NVIDIA#Installing_the_drivers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> how do you come to that conclusion?
>>> don't touch anything else the dnf
>>
>>
>> The xxx.run file is a shell script which reads...
>>
>> if [ "$1" = "-help" -o "$1" = "--help" -o "$1" = "-h" ]; then
>>  echo ""
>>  echo "$0 [options]"
>>  echo ""
>>  echo "This program will install the NVIDIA Accelerated Graphics
>> Driver for"
>>  echo "Linux-x86_64 375.66 by unpacking the embedded tarball and
>> executing"
>>  echo "the ./nvidia-installer  installation utility."
>>
>>
>> which is not something I could install using dnf?
>>
>> (or are we  talking at cross purposes?)
>>
>> I was trying to understand how the drivver from Nvidia got into my system,
>> whether by my download or via the rpmfusion dnf install?
>>
>> regards
>>
> For current nvidia cards dnf should do it all by the rpmfusion magic. See
> "Installing the drivers",  "Current GeForce" from the page quoted
> earlier, and wait...  You'll have to wait again after any kernel upgrade.
>
> If you have previously installed nvidia drivers *not* packaged by rpmfusion
> it may be more difficult.  But I still don't think swapping from your
> current card will do much - unless perhaps you have an inadequate power
> supply.
>
> On the Fedora list there is a current thread about problems with video
> editing in linux.  There are, as usual, possible IP issues.  I don't know
> how much of it to believe, but h264 support is not as good as that for
> mpeg2video
>
> John
>
>
> ___
> rpmfusion-users mailing list -- rpmfusion-users@lists.rpmfusion.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-users-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org



-- 
Dave Pawson
XSLT XSL-FO FAQ.
Docbook FAQ.
http://www.dpawson.co.uk
___
rpmfusion-users mailing list -- rpmfusion-users@lists.rpmfusion.org
To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-users-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org

Re: New Nvidia card

[Dave Pawson]

On 20 June 2017 at 11:19, Ed Greshko  wrote:
> On 06/20/17 18:05, Dave Pawson wrote:
>> thanks Ed.. That leads to a ...run file (assume x86 binary).
>
> Yes, for you it leads to "dnf install akmod-nvidia"

Beg to differ (not what I saw? / I misunderstood your comment?)
The file is
75096990 Jun 20 11:02 NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-375.66.run

from http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/118290

(hence my question re 'magic' as you describe it (and I'd agree)
the integration of of nvidia driver and dnf package from rpmfusion
)

Does rpmfusion wrap this  driver and update/download it.. or should I install it
from the .run file above, then let akmod associate it with my kernel?
I think that is what I understand from
https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/NVIDIA#Installing_the_drivers

regards




-- 
Dave Pawson
XSLT XSL-FO FAQ.
Docbook FAQ.
http://www.dpawson.co.uk
___
rpmfusion-users mailing list -- rpmfusion-users@lists.rpmfusion.org
To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-users-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org

Re: New Nvidia card

[Ed Greshko]

On 06/20/17 18:05, Dave Pawson wrote:
> thanks Ed.. That leads to a ...run file (assume x86 binary).

Yes, for you it leads to "dnf install akmod-nvidia"

>  One final one.
> IF (question) that is the driver provided by Nvidia, how does
> that relate to akmod, and the kernel mods?
>Do Nvidia provide that.. hosted by rpmfusion, or .. something else?
> I.e. how are the drivers 'wrapped up' for dnf to use please?
>

nVidia provides (I wouldn't say supply since they have no connection with 
rpmfusion)
all the drivers for their HW for anyone to pick up and install.

rpmfusion folks take what nVidia provides and packages it in a convenient 
format for
folks to install by the standard dnf path.  If it were not for rpmfusion you'd 
have
to manually do things like blacklist the nouveau driver by manually editing grub
files.  The fine folks at rpmfusion make all that unnecessary.

The details of how the fine rpmfusion folks go about the business of creating
akmod-nvidia and updating it as nVidia releases new versions of the drivers is
something I don't have insight toand frankly it is enough for me to call it
"magic".  :-) 
___
rpmfusion-users mailing list -- rpmfusion-users@lists.rpmfusion.org
To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-users-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org

Re: New Nvidia card

[Dave Pawson]

thanks Ed.. That leads to a ...run file (assume x86 binary).
 One final one.
IF (question) that is the driver provided by Nvidia, how does
that relate to akmod, and the kernel mods?
   Do Nvidia provide that.. hosted by rpmfusion, or .. something else?
I.e. how are the drivers 'wrapped up' for dnf to use please?

regards


On 20 June 2017 at 10:24, Ed Greshko  wrote:
> On 06/20/17 17:17, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>
>> When I need to know what version of nVidia drivers I should use I consult 
>> their webpage.
>>
>> http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
>
> Or, a slightly easier way
>
> go to http://www.geforce.com/drivers and do a manual search  :-)
>
>
> ___
> rpmfusion-users mailing list -- rpmfusion-users@lists.rpmfusion.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-users-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org



-- 
Dave Pawson
XSLT XSL-FO FAQ.
Docbook FAQ.
http://www.dpawson.co.uk
___
rpmfusion-users mailing list -- rpmfusion-users@lists.rpmfusion.org
To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-users-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org

Re: New Nvidia card

[Ed Greshko]

On 06/20/17 17:17, Ed Greshko wrote:
>
> When I need to know what version of nVidia drivers I should use I consult 
> their webpage.
>
> http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html

Or, a slightly easier way 

go to http://www.geforce.com/drivers and do a manual search  :-)


___
rpmfusion-users mailing list -- rpmfusion-users@lists.rpmfusion.org
To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-users-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org

Re: New Nvidia card

[Ed Greshko]

On 06/20/17 15:12, Dave Pawson wrote:
> Thanks Ed, very clear.
>
> On 20 June 2017 at 07:51, Ed Greshko  wrote:
>
>
>> But, if you install the akmod-nvidia package with supports your HW you won't 
>> have to
>> wait as it will build and install the needed kmod-nvidia when the kernel is 
>> updated.
>>
>>  akmod-nvidia-375.66-3supports the latest nvidia hardware but there are 
>> also
>> other versions to support earlier HW.  My older laptop has
>> akmod-nvidia-340xx-340.102-3 due to the older HW.
>>
>> All you need do is install the appropriate akmod-nvidia package and the 
>> required
>> dependencies will be installed.
> Which does leave (me) a problem?
> https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/NVIDIA#Determining_your_card_model  makes it seem
> easy... E.g. (if) I buy a GTX 1050 TI
> http://www.nvidia.co.uk/buy/graphics-cards/geforce/gtx-1050-ti/
> specifically the Gigabyte
> https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N105TG1-GAMING-4GD#kf
>
> How do I relate that to a build of akmod please?
>
> http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/367.57/README/supportedchips.html
> does not list the 1050?
>  I see the 1060... though going from that to an akmod 'version' I find hard?
>
> You said "akmod-nvidia-375.66-3supports the latest nvidia
> hardware" is that a general
> statement - i.e. that version supports 'all' (at least most) of the
> currently available cards?

When I need to know what version of nVidia drivers I should use I consult their 
webpage.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html

The current akmod is

Name: akmod-nvidia
Arch: x86_64
Epoch   : 2
Version : 375.66
Release : 3.fc25

Which gets me to this page... 
http://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/118290/en-us

And then I would go to the tab "Supported Products" and there is the GeForce 
GTX 1050
Ti pretty much at the top of the list.


___
rpmfusion-users mailing list -- rpmfusion-users@lists.rpmfusion.org
To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-users-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org

Re: New Nvidia card

[John Pilkington]

On 20/06/17 09:01, John Pilkington wrote:


Tryhttps://rpmfusion.org/Howto/NVIDIA  :-)


Sorry, I see you've already consulted that.

John
___
rpmfusion-users mailing list -- rpmfusion-users@lists.rpmfusion.org
To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-users-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org

Re: New Nvidia card

[John Pilkington]

On 20/06/17 08:12, Dave Pawson wrote:

Thanks Ed, very clear.

On 20 June 2017 at 07:51, Ed Greshko  wrote:




But, if you install the akmod-nvidia package with supports your HW you won't 
have to
wait as it will build and install the needed kmod-nvidia when the kernel is 
updated.

  akmod-nvidia-375.66-3supports the latest nvidia hardware but there are 
also
other versions to support earlier HW.  My older laptop has
akmod-nvidia-340xx-340.102-3 due to the older HW.

All you need do is install the appropriate akmod-nvidia package and the required
dependencies will be installed.


Which does leave (me) a problem?
https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/NVIDIA#Determining_your_card_model  makes it seem
easy... E.g. (if) I buy a GTX 1050 TI
http://www.nvidia.co.uk/buy/graphics-cards/geforce/gtx-1050-ti/
specifically the Gigabyte
https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N105TG1-GAMING-4GD#kf

How do I relate that to a build of akmod please?

http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/367.57/README/supportedchips.html
does not list the 1050?
  I see the 1060... though going from that to an akmod 'version' I find hard?

You said "akmod-nvidia-375.66-3supports the latest nvidia
hardware" is that a general
statement - i.e. that version supports 'all' (at least most) of the
currently available cards?

(feeling rather ignorant)

regards



Tryhttps://rpmfusion.org/Howto/NVIDIA  :-)
___
rpmfusion-users mailing list -- rpmfusion-users@lists.rpmfusion.org
To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-users-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org

Re: New Nvidia card

[Dave Pawson]

Thanks Ed, very clear.

On 20 June 2017 at 07:51, Ed Greshko  wrote:


>
> But, if you install the akmod-nvidia package with supports your HW you won't 
> have to
> wait as it will build and install the needed kmod-nvidia when the kernel is 
> updated.
>
>  akmod-nvidia-375.66-3supports the latest nvidia hardware but there are 
> also
> other versions to support earlier HW.  My older laptop has
> akmod-nvidia-340xx-340.102-3 due to the older HW.
>
> All you need do is install the appropriate akmod-nvidia package and the 
> required
> dependencies will be installed.

Which does leave (me) a problem?
https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/NVIDIA#Determining_your_card_model  makes it seem
easy... E.g. (if) I buy a GTX 1050 TI
http://www.nvidia.co.uk/buy/graphics-cards/geforce/gtx-1050-ti/
specifically the Gigabyte
https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N105TG1-GAMING-4GD#kf

How do I relate that to a build of akmod please?

http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/367.57/README/supportedchips.html
does not list the 1050?
 I see the 1060... though going from that to an akmod 'version' I find hard?

You said "akmod-nvidia-375.66-3supports the latest nvidia
hardware" is that a general
statement - i.e. that version supports 'all' (at least most) of the
currently available cards?

(feeling rather ignorant)

regards


-- 
Dave Pawson
XSLT XSL-FO FAQ.
Docbook FAQ.
http://www.dpawson.co.uk
___
rpmfusion-users mailing list -- rpmfusion-users@lists.rpmfusion.org
To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-users-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org

Re: New Nvidia card

[Ed Greshko]

On 06/20/17 14:29, Dave Pawson wrote:
> Thanks Ed, some parts understood (but I ask why!)... Others raise more 
> questions
>
> On 19 June 2017 at 18:06, Ed Greshko  wrote:
>> On 06/19/17 20:16, Dave Pawson wrote:
>>
>> I've done the song and dance previously - I kept getting caught out
>> when the akmod-nvidia was a day or two behind kernel updates!
>>
>>
>> I think you are thinking of kmod.
> Would you explain the difference please? And what is the sequence
> to change to akmod?

Sure   The kmod-nvidia packages on your system contain the actual kernel 
modules
for the nvidia cards.  With 3 kernels installed on my system I see...

[egreshko@meimei ~]$ rpm -qa | grep ^kmod-nvidia
kmod-nvidia-4.11.4-200.fc25.x86_64-375.66-3.fc25.x86_64
kmod-nvidia-4.11.3-202.fc25.x86_64-375.66-3.fc25.x86_64
kmod-nvidia-4.11.5-200.fc25.x86_64-375.66-3.fc25.x86_64

If you don't have akmod-nvidia installed on your system and you get a kernel 
update
from the fedora repo but the rpmfusion doesn't have the corresponding 
kmod-nvidia you
will have to wait until they doas you know.

But, if you install the akmod-nvidia package with supports your HW you won't 
have to
wait as it will build and install the needed kmod-nvidia when the kernel is 
updated. 

 akmod-nvidia-375.66-3supports the latest nvidia hardware but there are also
other versions to support earlier HW.  My older laptop has
akmod-nvidia-340xx-340.102-3 due to the older HW.

All you need do is install the appropriate akmod-nvidia package and the required
dependencies will be installed.

>
>
>> If you run with akmod it will automatically rebuild the kmods for you so you
>> won't be caught.  The only "downside" is that now with dnf you have to
>> remember that the rebuild process runs after, and silently, the dnf updates
>> are completed.  If you reboot too quickly the process wouldn't have enough
>> time to finish and when your reboot you'll have a blank screen for a few
>> minutes while it is rebuilding againsilently.  So, if you forget that
>> you may be inclined to think you've got a hung systembut you don't.
> It's the 'silent' that bugs me and makes me ask WHY :-)
>

I think it has to do with the difficulty in putting out messages in the 
asynchronous
environment in which the packages are built/installed.  However, it is easy to 
check
if all is well by just doing a "tailf" on /var/cache/akmods/akmods.log during or
after the kernel update and wait for "success" such as this

2017/06/16 08:01:15 akmods: Building and installing nvidia-kmod
2017/06/16 08:01:15 akmods: Building RPM using the command '/sbin/akmodsbuild
--target x86_64 --kernels 4.11.5-200.fc25.x86_64 
/usr/src/akmods/nvidia-kmod.latest'
2017/06/16 08:01:49 akmods: Installing newly built rpms
2017/06/16 08:01:49 akmods: DNF detected
2017/06/16 08:01:57 akmods: Successful.
___
rpmfusion-users mailing list -- rpmfusion-users@lists.rpmfusion.org
To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-users-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org

Re: New Nvidia card

[Dave Pawson]

Thanks Ed, some parts understood (but I ask why!)... Others raise more questions

On 19 June 2017 at 18:06, Ed Greshko  wrote:
> On 06/19/17 20:16, Dave Pawson wrote:
>
> I've done the song and dance previously - I kept getting caught out
> when the akmod-nvidia was a day or two behind kernel updates!
>
>
> I think you are thinking of kmod.

Would you explain the difference please? And what is the sequence
to change to akmod?


>
> If you run with akmod it will automatically rebuild the kmods for you so you
> won't be caught.  The only "downside" is that now with dnf you have to
> remember that the rebuild process runs after, and silently, the dnf updates
> are completed.  If you reboot too quickly the process wouldn't have enough
> time to finish and when your reboot you'll have a blank screen for a few
> minutes while it is rebuilding againsilently.  So, if you forget that
> you may be inclined to think you've got a hung systembut you don't.

It's the 'silent' that bugs me and makes me ask WHY :-)

Tks for the explanation.




-- 
Dave Pawson
XSLT XSL-FO FAQ.
Docbook FAQ.
http://www.dpawson.co.uk
___
rpmfusion-users mailing list -- rpmfusion-users@lists.rpmfusion.org
To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-users-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org

Re: New Nvidia card

[Ed Greshko]

On 06/19/17 20:16, Dave Pawson wrote:
> I've done the song and dance previously - I kept getting caught out
> when the akmod-nvidia was a day or two behind kernel updates!


I think you are thinking of kmod.

If you run with akmod it will automatically rebuild the kmods for you so you 
won't be
caught.  The only "downside" is that now with dnf you have to remember that the
rebuild process runs after, and silently, the dnf updates are completed.  If you
reboot too quickly the process wouldn't have enough time to finish and when your
reboot you'll have a blank screen for a few minutes while it is rebuilding
againsilently.  So, if you forget that you may be inclined to think you've 
got a
hung systembut you don't.

___
rpmfusion-users mailing list -- rpmfusion-users@lists.rpmfusion.org
To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-users-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org

Re: New Nvidia card

[Dave Pawson]

And does the akmod-nvidia work OK with the 1050ti?
Specifically

Gigabyte Nvidia GTX 1050Ti WF2 OC 4GB GDDR5
I've done the song and dance previously - I kept getting caught out
when the akmod-nvidia was a day or two behind kernel updates!

regards

On 19 June 2017 at 13:00, Eric Sokolowsky  wrote:
> Using rpmfusion and the akmod-nvidia package reduces the hassle
> tremendously. Dnf update just works.
>
> On Jun 19, 2017 5:14 AM, "Dave Pawson"  wrote:
>>
>> On 19 June 2017 at 09:19, John Pilkington  wrote:
>>
>> > We know nothing about the video format you are using or your hopes, but
>> > it
>> > seems to me unlikely that the card-swap that you suggested will achieve
>> > anything.  Are you committed to using nouveau?  My experience on much
>> > older
>> > hardware wasn't impressive and I returned to nvidia-304 as soon as it
>> > re-stabilised - although I still have suspicions about its current
>> > rpmfusion fc25 implementation. A more recent nvidia driver would be
>> > appropriate for your current card.  I do a lot of video-cutting work,
>> > but
>> > it's mainly mythtv-specific with older intel hardware.
>>
>> MP4  format.
>> My suspicion was that the video card interface wasn't keeping up with
>> the changes I was making (novice not knowing correct way to drive the
>> app),
>> hence the look for an upgrade.
>>   Not committed to nouveau - but it does remove a lot of hassle with
>> Fedora
>> upgrading so often?
>>
>> Simpler question. Is it a fair assumption that the editing software is
>> driving
>> the card capability directly or using OS calls which may  / may not
>> offload
>> to the card?
>>
>> regards
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dave Pawson
>> XSLT XSL-FO FAQ.
>> Docbook FAQ.
>> http://www.dpawson.co.uk
>> ___
>> rpmfusion-users mailing list -- rpmfusion-users@lists.rpmfusion.org
>> To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-users-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org
>
>
> ___
> rpmfusion-users mailing list -- rpmfusion-users@lists.rpmfusion.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-users-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org
>



-- 
Dave Pawson
XSLT XSL-FO FAQ.
Docbook FAQ.
http://www.dpawson.co.uk
___
rpmfusion-users mailing list -- rpmfusion-users@lists.rpmfusion.org
To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-users-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org

Re: New Nvidia card

[Eric Sokolowsky]

Using rpmfusion and the akmod-nvidia package reduces the hassle
tremendously. Dnf update just works.

On Jun 19, 2017 5:14 AM, "Dave Pawson"  wrote:

> On 19 June 2017 at 09:19, John Pilkington  wrote:
>
> > We know nothing about the video format you are using or your hopes, but
> it
> > seems to me unlikely that the card-swap that you suggested will achieve
> > anything.  Are you committed to using nouveau?  My experience on much
> older
> > hardware wasn't impressive and I returned to nvidia-304 as soon as it
> > re-stabilised - although I still have suspicions about its current
> > rpmfusion fc25 implementation. A more recent nvidia driver would be
> > appropriate for your current card.  I do a lot of video-cutting work, but
> > it's mainly mythtv-specific with older intel hardware.
>
> MP4  format.
> My suspicion was that the video card interface wasn't keeping up with
> the changes I was making (novice not knowing correct way to drive the app),
> hence the look for an upgrade.
>   Not committed to nouveau - but it does remove a lot of hassle with Fedora
> upgrading so often?
>
> Simpler question. Is it a fair assumption that the editing software is
> driving
> the card capability directly or using OS calls which may  / may not offload
> to the card?
>
> regards
>
>
> --
> Dave Pawson
> XSLT XSL-FO FAQ.
> Docbook FAQ.
> http://www.dpawson.co.uk
> ___
> rpmfusion-users mailing list -- rpmfusion-users@lists.rpmfusion.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-users-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org
>
___
rpmfusion-users mailing list -- rpmfusion-users@lists.rpmfusion.org
To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-users-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org

Re: New Nvidia card

[Dave Pawson]

On 19 June 2017 at 09:19, John Pilkington  wrote:

> We know nothing about the video format you are using or your hopes, but it
> seems to me unlikely that the card-swap that you suggested will achieve
> anything.  Are you committed to using nouveau?  My experience on much older
> hardware wasn't impressive and I returned to nvidia-304 as soon as it
> re-stabilised - although I still have suspicions about its current
> rpmfusion fc25 implementation. A more recent nvidia driver would be
> appropriate for your current card.  I do a lot of video-cutting work, but
> it's mainly mythtv-specific with older intel hardware.

MP4  format.
My suspicion was that the video card interface wasn't keeping up with
the changes I was making (novice not knowing correct way to drive the app),
hence the look for an upgrade.
  Not committed to nouveau - but it does remove a lot of hassle with Fedora
upgrading so often?

Simpler question. Is it a fair assumption that the editing software is driving
the card capability directly or using OS calls which may  / may not offload
to the card?

regards


-- 
Dave Pawson
XSLT XSL-FO FAQ.
Docbook FAQ.
http://www.dpawson.co.uk
___
rpmfusion-users mailing list -- rpmfusion-users@lists.rpmfusion.org
To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-users-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org

Re: New Nvidia card

[John Pilkington]

On 19/06/17 07:53, Dave Pawson wrote:

On 19 June 2017 at 03:14, Ed Greshko  wrote:


  or what level of video editing you hope

for.

Pitivi is crashing all over the place.


I don't use pitivi, but don't know what "crashing all over the place" means.


In an hours use, I am seeing 5 or more instances where the application
closes and I lose work. On 3 occasions the project is unusable, I have
to start again.
   Hence my look for an alternative.



Looking at Lightworks/ shotcut


Both work fine for me but I must say for the minimal amount of work I do shotcut
works well enough.


Thanks. Shotcut has far fewer deps than Lightworks, which blacklists nouveau.



We know nothing about the video format you are using or your hopes, but 
it seems to me unlikely that the card-swap that you suggested will 
achieve anything.  Are you committed to using nouveau?  My experience on 
much older hardware wasn't impressive and I returned to nvidia-304 as 
soon as it re-stabilised - although I still have suspicions about its 
current  rpmfusion fc25 implementation. A more recent nvidia driver 
would be appropriate for your current card.  I do a lot of video-cutting 
work, but it's mainly mythtv-specific with older intel hardware.


Cheers,

John P
___
rpmfusion-users mailing list -- rpmfusion-users@lists.rpmfusion.org
To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-users-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org

Re: New Nvidia card

[Dave Pawson]

On 19 June 2017 at 03:14, Ed Greshko  wrote:

>>  or what level of video editing you hope
>>> for.
>> Pitivi is crashing all over the place.
>
> I don't use pitivi, but don't know what "crashing all over the place" means.

In an hours use, I am seeing 5 or more instances where the application
closes and I lose work. On 3 occasions the project is unusable, I have
to start again.
  Hence my look for an alternative.


>> Looking at Lightworks/ shotcut
>
> Both work fine for me but I must say for the minimal amount of work I do 
> shotcut
> works well enough.

Thanks. Shotcut has far fewer deps than Lightworks, which blacklists nouveau.

regards



-- 
Dave Pawson
XSLT XSL-FO FAQ.
Docbook FAQ.
http://www.dpawson.co.uk
___
rpmfusion-users mailing list -- rpmfusion-users@lists.rpmfusion.org
To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-users-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org

Re: New Nvidia card

[Ed Greshko]

On 06/18/17 18:08, Dave Pawson wrote:
> Hi John
>
> On 18 June 2017 at 10:49, John Pilkington  wrote:
>
>> You don't say what you already have
> NVIDIA Corporation GM107 [GeForce GTX 750 Ti

I have a GeForce GTX 660

>
>  or what level of video editing you hope
>> for.
> Pitivi is crashing all over the place.

I don't use pitivi, but don't know what "crashing all over the place" means.
> Looking at Lightworks/ shotcut

Both work fine for me but I must say for the minimal amount of work I do shotcut
works well enough.
___
rpmfusion-users mailing list -- rpmfusion-users@lists.rpmfusion.org
To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-users-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org

Re: New Nvidia card

[Dave Pawson]

Hi John

On 18 June 2017 at 10:49, John Pilkington  wrote:

>>
> You don't say what you already have

NVIDIA Corporation GM107 [GeForce GTX 750 Ti

 or what level of video editing you hope
> for.

Pitivi is crashing all over the place.
Looking at Lightworks/ shotcut

 Not being into video effects, I'd say that card is aimed at gaming.  I
> still haven't tried one,

My assumption (right / wrong?) was that gaming / video editing have
similar needs (colour rendition is not an issue with me)


 but for video display the much cheaper GT 710 still
> looks attractive to me.  YMMV

Guess: GT 710 earlier than GT 750?

regards


-- 
Dave Pawson
XSLT XSL-FO FAQ.
Docbook FAQ.
http://www.dpawson.co.uk
___
rpmfusion-users mailing list -- rpmfusion-users@lists.rpmfusion.org
To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-users-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org

Re: New Nvidia card

[John Pilkington]

On 18/06/17 10:00, Dave Pawson wrote:

I'm starting video editing. The app 'insists' on a
better video card.
   Looking at   Nvidia GTX 1050Ti
as being all I can afford.

Fedora 25, 64 bit.

Has anyone used this card / heard good or bad reports
please?

TiA

You don't say what you already have or what level of video editing you 
hope for.  Not being into video effects, I'd say that card is aimed at 
gaming.  I still haven't tried one, but for video display the much 
cheaper GT 710 still looks attractive to me.  YMMV


John P
___
rpmfusion-users mailing list -- rpmfusion-users@lists.rpmfusion.org
To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-users-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org