Re: [rt-users] Jabber Support or IRC

2013-04-05 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: Thomas Misilo misi...@fit.edu

 I was wondering if it is possible to have RT when a new ticket is
 created, to have it send an alert to a specific jabber (XMPP) user or
 to an IRC channel?

I think I'd look at irker, if you didn't already know it existed.

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Re: [rt-users] Users showing time in GMT

2013-03-20 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: Mark F. Komarinski mark_komarin...@hms.harvard.edu

 I have at least one user who has timestamps showing GMT rather than
 local time. She had Options-About Me set to system default (same as
 me) and then set to America/New_York but timestamps in her tickets
 still show the time followed by GMT. Any ideas?

Are they just *labeled* wrong?  Or if she writes a ticket at 4pm EDT,
does it say 2000UTC?

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Re: [rt-users] Ready to roll?

2013-02-28 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: Kevin Falcone falc...@bestpractical.com

 I filed http://issues.bestpractical.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=22893
 so someone will look at that doc and update.

Am I really the first person to notice that Basics does not include the
full Ticket title, so that when the large label version of it in 
the top ticket frame is too long to fit at whatever text size it is,
you have to burrow all the way to the bottom of the comments to see it?

This is a tiny bit worse for me, because (being almost 50 and having a 12
laptop :-) I tend to run sites in Firefox Zoom Text Only mode, but on this
particular example, it overflows even at standard text size.

Should I RFE this?

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Re: [rt-users] Ticket Image attach corruption

2013-02-08 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: Joshua Lansford joshua.lansf...@laserlinc.com

 My apologies. Your article was indeed well written and did not provide
 me with any difficulty in setting up RT. Google also complements your
 hardwork by directing me to it when I needed the information. Sadly I
 didn't think to check if the referenced version was out of date. Do you
 think you could put a quick warning at the top as a stop gap measure for
 other folks who forget to check?

They've already done that, at least in some places.  If it isn't in enough,
I will go back and add such a note, probably tonight, unless someone beats
me to it.

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Re: [rt-users] Ticket Image attach corruption

2013-02-08 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: Joshua Lansford joshua.lansf...@laserlinc.com

 On 02/08/2013 05:15 AM, Dominic Hargreaves wrote:
  Which wiki, OOI?
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Request%20Tracker

Oh.

Missed this.  No, that wasn't my work; I thought you were talking about
the community wiki at http://requesttracker.wikia.com/

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Re: [rt-users] Problem with __maps__

2013-02-07 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: Kevin Falcone falc...@bestpractical.com

 This is a known bug we've been discussing how to fix. There's a lot
 of magic that needs to happen when you change a lifecycle midstream.
 You have to leave transitions in place until you migrate away from the
 old statuses and it's a pain. Unfortunately, on a large queue, any
 sort of magic could run for a long time and time out, etc.

That is a problem that crops up in a bunch of different places of different
sizes and scopes, all the way down to does $AndroidClient cache status 
postings if it can't get them through due to a local connectivity error 
(for Tweetcaster the answer is yes, visibly; for Facebook, maybe,
but you can't tell), and I believe the indicated design pattern there is
Job Queue.

Is there already something in RTs internals for handling queued jobs?

If not, is this a big enough issue -- and might you gain useful leverage
in the future -- from introducing it?

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Re: [rt-users] Problem with __maps__

2013-02-07 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: Kevin Falcone falc...@bestpractical.com

 On Thu, Feb 07, 2013 at 11:06:51AM -0500, Jay Ashworth wrote:
  Is there already something in RTs internals for handling queued
  jobs?
 
 There is not.
 
  If not, is this a big enough issue -- and might you gain useful
  leverage
  in the future -- from introducing it?
 
 Already being discussed. There are a number of things that would
 benefit from it. Clearly it would increase the complexity of the
 installation process.

Ah yes: the writing the code myself is not the only cost I avoid in 
integrating Other People's Components realization; the Dirty Little 
Secret of open source design.

Already being discussed was the right answer, though.  :-)

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Re: [rt-users] Ticket Image attach corruption

2013-02-07 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: Thomas Sibley t...@bestpractical.com

 We highly recommend that any new installs of RT start out in the 4.0
 series. The latest release is 4.0.10.
 
 3.8 has been getting only security fixes and _serious_ bug fixes for
 well over a year now.

Question: do you guys make a point, at all, of evangelizing to distro
maintainers and packagers that they package 4.x, or, more to the point
pull 3.x *out* of repos?

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[rt-users] RT repo packages

2013-02-07 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: Thomas Sibley t...@bestpractical.com

 We've pushed for 4.0 in the past with various distro maintainers. I
 believe most popular distros have _some_ sort of 4.0 package now, but
 how up to date it is depends on the maintainer.
 
 Our Debian maintainer (Dominic) is great, and the request-tracker4
 package versions usually track pretty close to the latest release if
 you use backports or unstable. Lags do occur, such as when Debian
 freezes the package trees in advance of release.
 
 Ubuntu gets all the RT packages from Debian, usually with some of it's
 own lag and quirks built-in. It's community maintained which means
 no one at Canonical is responsible for dealing with it (even for
 security!) unless prodded in an approved (albeit documented) process.
 
 I don't think we'd advocate for pulling 3.8 packages entirely until
 it's officially EOL'd. Still, I believe there is an Ubuntu ticket in
 Launchpad about pulling 3.8 from the next distro version they release
 (opened by someone from the RT community).

Perhaps, at the very least, doing one final release that says DEPRECIATED
somewhere, in large, friendly letters?

As a field report, BTW: SuSE 12.1 has no packages at all, even in Packman,
and CentOS5 has only rt3 (of unknown release), even with epel and remi.

Alas, though those are my 2 target OSs, I'm not sufficiently adept at this
point with either RT or packaging to volunteer.

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Re: [rt-users] Ticket Image attach corruption

2013-02-07 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: Joshua Lansford joshua.lansf...@laserlinc.com

 On 02/07/2013 02:43 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
  Question: do you guys make a point, at all, of evangelizing to
  distro
  maintainers and packagers that they package 4.x, or, more to the
  point
  pull 3.x*out* of repos?
 
 I checked and there are separate packages for rt4. I understand leaving
 the 3.8 around as not to surprise folks when they do a system upgrade.

Yeah.

 It would have been nice if they had updated their wiki though. Quite a
 bummer as I just went live. I am going to try and set up a duplicate
 system on a virtual machine to test upgrade to 4.0. Thanks for
 pointing this out. I will be following this guide:
 http://blog.bestpractical.com/2011/07/upgrading-to-rt-4.html

About the wiki, it's largely me you're complaining about, so you got 
the right guy: I did a large bolus of rework on it around 3.8 release 
time, and have not been using rt-due to job changes-since, so I haven't 
gotten around to reworking it again for 4.x.

If I get a full-time $DAYJOB I'm in the running for right now, that will
likely change, as I'll be rolling out 4.0 for there, and updating/merging
the current doco to the wiki.

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[rt-users] RightsMatrix and AssetTracker status in 4.x?

2013-02-02 Thread Jay Ashworth
I'm about to set up a test 4.x instance, as a production one will probably
be the first thing I'm tasked with if I get a new job I'm vying for.

The two things I'm probably most interested in are RightsMatrix and AT;
what is the current status of these against rt4.x? 

Out of date?
Up to date?
No longer necessary as they're integrated?

In other news, has anything resembling a Customer File ever shown up? :-)

(My application will be municipal, and I'll need a good way to deal with
a ticket field picking from a fixed database of street addresses, which 
which reporter emails may be associated.)

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Re: [rt-users] RT Asset Tracker - unique name field

2012-04-11 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: Darren Hildebrand darren.hildebr...@opusvfx.com

 I'm looking at using RT AssetTracker module for tracking our hardware
 and software licenses. It does exactly what I'd like for hardware, but
 I'd also like to track software licenses. The problem that I'm running
 up against is that each asset name field must be unique. For example,
 if I'm tracking Windows licenses, I'd like to be able to have 20 assets
 called something like Windows 7 Professional (64-bit) with separate
 Asset IDs and product keys, and then I'd link them to the workstations
 that they run on. Is there any way to accomplish something like this?
 If not, how do people generally go about tracking software licenses
 with the RT Asset Tracker?

I would use that as a description, and use the license key itself -- or 
some unique component thereof, as the name.

You're hitting an analog of the serial numbered inventory problem.

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Re: [rt-users] Buildind rt4 while logged in as an AD user

2012-03-26 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com

 And I additionally get a zillion errors like:
 
 Email::Address ...MISSING
 Can't locate Email/Address.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.12.1/i586-linux-thread-multi
 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.12.1
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.12.1/i586-linux-thread-multi
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.12.1
 /usr/lib/perl5/5.12.1/i586-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.12.1
 /appl/rt-4.0.5)
 
 Followed at the end by:
 
 make: *** [testdeps] Error 1
 
 when I run make testdeps.
 
 It's clear I don't have all the perl I should, but I thought that was
 testdeps' job to tell me. :-)

Ok, that was stupid.  That *was* testdeps telling me, clearly.  Fixdeps
is cleaning up (most, if not all) of that, but the first part of my inquiry
stands: it appears that the build scripts do not expect that the user
and group names may contain non-magic backslashes and spaces, as will be
the case on a machine where authentication is provided by AD/Samba; can
anyone confirm or deny?

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[rt-users] Folo: Building rt4 while logged in as an AD user

2012-03-26 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com

 Ok, that was stupid. That *was* testdeps telling me, clearly. Fixdeps
 is cleaning up (most, if not all) of that, 

It was; everything is installed now.

but the first part of my inquiry
 stands: it appears that the build scripts do not expect that the user
 and group names may contain non-magic backslashes and spaces, as will be
 the case on a machine where authentication is provided by AD/Samba;
 can anyone confirm or deny?

In addition to:

users:
rt group (GETMOTIVATEDdomain) ...MISSING
bin owner (GETMOTIVATEDjay.ashworth) ...MISSING
libs owner (GETMOTIVATEDjay.ashworth) ...MISSING
libs group (GETMOTIVATEDdomain) ...MISSING
web owner (GETMOTIVATEDjay.ashworth) ...MISSING
web group (GETMOTIVATEDdomain) ...MISSING

I now get, at the end:

/usr/bin/install -c -m 0755 -o GETMOTIVATED\jay.ashworth -g GETMOTIVATED\domain 
-d /appl/rt405/etc
/usr/bin/install: invalid user `GETMOTIVATEDjay.ashworth'
make: *** [config-install] Error 1

It's relatively clear to me that the build machinery does *not* contemplate
usernames which contain spaces and backslashes, as winbind usernames and 
group names will -- and probably not ones which don't exist on the local 
machine, either.

I'm not sure what's the best approach to this; I'm probably not competent
to implement a global solution, suitable for a patch; I'm at the edge of my
skillset working in that environment myself.

Suggestions?

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Re: [rt-users] Buildind rt4 while logged in as an AD user

2012-03-26 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: Thomas Sibley t...@bestpractical.com

--with-my-user-group
 
 If you're setting up a development RT instance on your own machine,
 --with-my-user-group makes sense. If you're setting up on a production
 box or a testing server for a production box, you shouldn't use
 --with-my-user-group. It especially doesn't make sense to specify
 --with-my-user-group alongside --with-web-user, --with-web-group, and
 --with-rt-group since --with-my-user-group overrides them.

Got it.
 
  It's relatively clear to me that the build machinery does *not* contemplate
  usernames which contain spaces and backslashes, as winbind usernames and
  group names will -- and probably not ones which don't exist on the local
  machine, either.
 
 This doesn't surprise me, as the parameters aren't quoted so the shell
 eats backslashes. If you remove the --with-my-user-group option from
 your configure, you'll actually start using wwwrun, www, and rt as you
 specify in the other configure options.

And I modified the Makefile.in to:

# This is the group that all of the installed files will be chgrp'ed to.
RTGROUP =   @RTGROUP@


# User which should own rt binaries.
BIN_OWNER   =   @BIN_OWNER@

# User that should own all of RT's libraries, generally root.
LIBS_OWNER  =   @LIBS_OWNER@

# Group that should own all of RT's libraries, generally root.
LIBS_GROUP  =   @LIBS_GROUP@

WEB_USER=   @WEB_USER@
WEB_GROUP   =   @WEB_GROUP@

Which seems to have mostly-fixed that problem, though I'm not sure whether
it's enough.

I am, though, suddenly being nattered at about FCGI prereqs, which I wasn't
before, and which I don't expect to, since I specified modperl2 as my handler.

It'd be real odd if that wasn't because of my changes, though I can't imagine
why they might be connected.  Syntax coloring suggests that I didn't miss any
close-quotes, though.

Thanks, Thomas.

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Re: [rt-users] Buildind rt4 while logged in as an AD user

2012-03-26 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com

 I am, though, suddenly being nattered at about FCGI prereqs, which I wasn't
 before, and which I don't expect to, since I specified modperl2 as my handler.
 
 It'd be real odd if that wasn't because of my changes, though I can't imagine
 why they might be connected. Syntax coloring suggests that I didn't miss any
 close-quotes, though.

My, but I'm having a bad week.  I ran configure by hand, instead of from my
build script.  sigh

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[rt-users] Buildind rt4 while logged in as an AD user

2012-03-23 Thread Jay Ashworth
I'm doing a first build of 4.0.5 on a Suse 11.3 machine which is configured
to authenticate Linux users against our AD domain controllers.

At the beginning of make testdeps, I see this:

users:
rt group (GETMOTIVATEDdomain) ...MISSING
bin owner (GETMOTIVATEDjay.ashworth) ...MISSING
libs owner (GETMOTIVATEDjay.ashworth) ...MISSING
libs group (GETMOTIVATEDdomain) ...MISSING
web owner (GETMOTIVATEDjay.ashworth) ...MISSING
web group (GETMOTIVATEDdomain) ...MISSING

Those aren't the users I told ./configure to use for those things, but I
also note that they're missing the expected backslash separator in the 
username.   I'm not sure if those are related, and I'm also not sure if the
rt build has been tested in an environment where the usernames are Windows'y.

Can anyone speak to either point?

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Re: [rt-users] Buildind rt4 while logged in as an AD user

2012-03-23 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: Kevin Falcone falc...@bestpractical.com

 Please show your configure line.

Sorry:

GETMOTIVATED\jay.ashworth@gmtpa-xen0:/appl/rt-4.0.5 cat ./build
./configure \
  --prefix=/appl/rt405 \
  --enable-graphviz \
  --enable-gd \
  --enable-ssl-mailgate \
  --with-web-handler=modperl2 \
  --with-db-type=mysql \
  --with-db-dba=root \
  --with-db-database=rt4_test \
  --with-db-rt-user=rt_user \
  --with-db-rt-pass=rt_pass \
  --with-web-user=wwwrun \
  --with-web-group=www \
  --with-rt-group=rt \
  --with-my-user-group

And I additionally get a zillion errors like:

Email::Address ...MISSING
Can't locate Email/Address.pm in @INC (@INC contains: 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.12.1/i586-linux-thread-multi 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.12.1 
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.12.1/i586-linux-thread-multi 
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.12.1 /usr/lib/perl5/5.12.1/i586-linux-thread-multi 
/usr/lib/perl5/5.12.1 /appl/rt-4.0.5)

Followed at the end by:

make: *** [testdeps] Error 1

when I run make testdeps.

It's clear I don't have all the perl I should, but I thought that was
testdeps' job to tell me.  :-)

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Re: [rt-users] Upload Multiple Files at once

2012-01-13 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: Jeff bigwa...@gmail.com

 We are using a Custom Field that allows for multiple photos to be
 uploaded and attached to a ticket. We typically have 3 photos per
 ticket and people would like to be able to select the 3 photos to
 upload together instead of having to add and save for each one.
 Has anyone found a way to be able to upload more than 1 file at a
 time?

It's a documented problem that this cannot be done in Internet Explorer: the
browser will not support multiple selection in a file picker dialog box.

The only way I'm aware of to implement this is by grafting in a Flash-based
uploader; a non-trivial undertaking.  (There's a jQuery multi-file uploader,
but it also depends on the browser's file-picker and has the same problems.)

FF, Safari and Chrome all allow multiple selection in their file pickers, 
though the app may not know how to handle it, and thus not enable it.

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Re: [rt-users] The RT Wiki - Restructure (start using categories?)

2011-11-29 Thread Jay Ashworth
I was one of the early contributors in that post, about 5 years ago, and
while I'm about to redeploy 4.0 as a test, I haven't been using RT much in
the interim; I admit I spent more time on content than categorization,
though. 

Categories are handy.

- Original Message -
 From: Ruslan Zakirov r...@bestpractical.com
 To: Bart b...@pleh.info
 Cc: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
 Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 6:31:07 AM
 Subject: Re: [rt-users] The RT Wiki - Restructure (start using categories?)
 Hello Bart,
 
 It would be great to see more structure on the wiki. I think wiki
 chief editor position is vacant, unfortunately it's not paid, but
 much appreciated.
 
 On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Bart b...@pleh.info wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I've created an account on Wikia in order to do some editing on the
  RT wiki:
 
  http://requesttracker.wikia.com/wiki/HomePage
 
  There are a few things that I want to add, but I'm kinda confused by
  the
  structure O_o
 
  I've noticed that only a handfull of articles contain a categorie,
  these
  categories are viewable on this page:
 
  http://requesttracker.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Categories
 
  These categories are a nice way of structuring content, people only
  have to
  add a page with the proper categorie and it will be displayed on the
  categorie page.
  In addition you have the ability to add specific
  information/explanation to
  each categorie page as shown on this page:
 
  http://requesttracker.wikia.com/wiki/Category:3.8.9
 
  The thing I'm missing on the main page is a link to all categories,
  this
  would make browsing the wiki allot easier.
  In addition what I'm missing is a structure of the categories +
  allot of
  pages aren't categorized.
 
  I feel that the structure could be better, and with a better
  structure it
  would make adding articles allot easier + they will become visible
  by simply
  viewing a categorie specific page where everything is alphabetized
  (no need
  for creating a link to article X on certain pages).
 
  If I were to think-up a structure and start to re-organize the
  categories
  (edit pages to point to the new structure), would this upset someone
  (I hope
  not ^_^)?
  I'd first want to roughly draw the categorie structure and verify it
  with
  the mailing-lists before starting to edit anything. (basically think
  before
  act)
 
  Let me know your thoughts, I feel that I have some time to work on
  the wiki
  so hopefully with some input from others it will be possible to
  freshen up
  the wiki.
 
 
  -- Bart
 
  
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[rt-users] OT: Tagging queries and the query cache

2011-09-21 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: Kevin Falcone falc...@bestpractical.com

 This destroys mysql's query cache, which is a very nice performance
 win.

On some reflection, I have a question: which part of my suggestion destroys
the utility of the cache?  That there's another clause in the query? Or that
it involves Today's Date?

Cause the former would only seem to apply between uses of the same exact
query in different places in the code... and the latter could be solved
by simply making the tagged-on clause be 'Tag-string' = 'Tag-string',
I *think*. 

But I am only an egg in these things...

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Re: [rt-users] How to avoid a huge dataset returning

2011-09-16 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: Kevin Falcone falc...@bestpractical.com

 That doesn't looks like a standard RT query, but you haven't provided
 your version. You'll probably want to turn on the StatementLog option
 and figure out where that query is coming from so you can fix the
 source.

Which makes you a good person for me to bounce a SQL idea off of:

For the purpose of tracing queries back into code, how about something like:
add to the end of each query a clause like AND NOT Todays_Date = '1000-08-22'
(using the appropriate SQL syntax, which I forget)... using the date as an
'address' for the query in the code (program, module, query, or something 
similar.

The entire clause will be statically true, and get optimized off, but will
still show up in the slow-query log, and in mytop/mtop, etc... giving you 
a handle to get back to the code.

Is this possible?  Practical?

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Re: [rt-users] How to avoid a huge dataset returning

2011-09-16 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: Kevin Falcone falc...@bestpractical.com

 This destroys mysql's query cache, which is a very nice performance
 win.

Oh hell; of course.

 On RT4 you can enable the statement log and see every query run
 on a page with pointers into the source that executed it.

That doesn't help, though, on a large realtime system, and especially
not on code that isn't RT.  :-)

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Re: [rt-users] How to avoid a huge dataset returning

2011-09-16 Thread Jay Ashworth
  That doesn't help, though, on a large realtime system, and
  especially not on code that isn't RT. :-)
 
 I actually have found it to be my favorite new RT4 feature, especially
 for improving the performance of large systems.

I'm sure it's very nice (and since I'm probably about to install RT4, I
will care. :-)  But I'm trying to solve the more general problem; all the
world is not RT4.  :-)

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Re: [rt-users] su for rt?

2011-08-22 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: Yan Seiner y...@seiner.com

 Is there anything like su for RT? I'd like to be able to check on users'
 ability to see certain tickets. It's disruptive to ask them (and keep
 asking them while I figure out which layer of permissions is causing
 me headaches.) Any way I can use something like 'su' to assume a user's
 identity without knowing their password?

You're looking for something like Zimbra Admin's Become This User. 

I don't think RT3 had that, at least native; I don't remember whether
I found an extension to do it.  I seem to think I might have.

Can't speak to RT4 yet.  That's next week.  :-)

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Re: [rt-users] Work with Google Apps?

2011-05-12 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: Gavin Henry gavin.he...@gmail.com

 Can this be done?

No; it's not possible for people to work with Google Apps.

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Re: [rt-users] RT and Vtiger integration redux

2011-04-28 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: Chris Devers cdev...@pobox.com

 (Better still, if RT4 can credibly be used as a CRM — customer
 database, inventory of customer systems  configurations, that kind of
 thing — then that would be even better.)

I saw no evidence that RT4 had added anything that resembled a customer 
file, and -- given the *violent* antipathy on BestPractical's part to that
idea, dating back to 3.2 -- I really didn't expect it.

Cheers,
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Re: [rt-users] RT and Vtiger integration redux

2011-04-28 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
 From: Jesse Vincent je...@bestpractical.com
 I saw no evidence that RT4 had added anything that resembled a
 customer
 
 file, and -- given the *violent* antipathy on BestPractical's part to
 that
 idea, dating back to 3.2 -- I really didn't expect it.
 
 
 I'm not quite sure what you're referring to. I'd love for RT to have
 the functionality.

Ok, I've just gone back and asked The Google, and I've *slightly* over-
characterized BP's distaste for the idea; my apologies:

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/rt/users/62792

That amounts more to ok, that's not a bad idea, but we're not all
that interested in investing any effort into doing it unless people
are paying.

As I pointed out somewhere along the way, that limits your audience to
internal departments, where this sort of make sure you notify the 
requestor's supervisor on all tickets automatically and has someone 
else in that department/customer/administrative span of control already
reported the same problem are less necessary; small businesses with 
customers who might be potential customers won't -- generally -- even
bother to complain that RT doesn't have that; you're just not in their
evaluation criteria at all.

I've always been fine with that -- you give it away for free, you're
perfectly entitled to decide on what you think your feature set is going
to be.  I'm just telling you -- as I always have -- that this puts you
in Jerry Pournelle's famous category of infuriatingly excellent; the
package has always been good enough to really irritate those for whom
(like me), that design blindspot knocks you right out of the picture.

But you're correct: violent antipathy is an overstatment.  Please allow
me to correct it to violent apathy, with my apologies.  :-)

Cheers,
-- jra