[sage-devel] Re: sage-4.1

2009-07-13 Thread Minh Nguyen
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 6:00 AM, Justin C. Walkerjus...@mac.com wrote: Hi, Minh, On Jul 12, 2009, at 12:12 , Minh Nguyen wrote: On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 5:02 AM, Justin C. Walkerjus...@mac.com wrote: [snip] I opened $SAGE_ROOT/devel/sage/doc/output/html/en/index.html (is there a better

[sage-devel] Is gcc 4.2.4 sufficiently new to build Sage ?

2009-07-13 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Is there anything in Sage that needs gcc 4.3.0 or later, or will the previous release (4.2.4) be ok? I've built about 8 versions of gcc on 't2', which is a Sun T5240 http://www.sun.com/servers/coolthreads/t5240/ 'coolthreads' machine with a pair of UltraSPARC T2 Plus processors (16 cores

[sage-devel] Re: sage-4.1

2009-07-13 Thread davidloeffler
On Jul 13, 8:24 am, Minh Nguyen nguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote: As it now stands, the HTML version of the reference manual of Sage 4.1.1 is bit broken. You can build the HTML version. However, if the docstring for a function or class uses the .. MATH:: tag, then it won't render in the

[sage-devel] Re: sage-4.1

2009-07-13 Thread Pat LeSmithe
davidloeffler wrote: FWIW: I tried to get around this by using sage -docbuild --jsmath reference html. This led to a new problem, which this snippet from sage/rings/polynomial/toy_d_basis shows: We first form a certain ideal I in [Unknown control sequence '\ZZ'], and note that the Groebner

[sage-devel] Installation error occurred while installing ratpoints-2.1.2.p2

2009-07-13 Thread Peter
Greetings. I have just downloaded and attempted to build from source sage-4.1 and got the following error message: Error building ratpoints. Please advise on how to fix the problem. Relevant system information and portion of install.log are included below. Also, one other question: I would

[sage-devel] Polybori uses Sun's C++ compiler, ignoring CXX=g++

2009-07-13 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I noticed a couple of issues with polybori-0.5rc.p8 on Solaris. Note how on the first line, polybori uses the GNU C compiler gcc to compile a C file, but passes an unreconised option '-KPIC'. (That option would be acceptable to the Sun compiler). Then on the very next line, it calls the Sun

[sage-devel] Re: PIL interface questions

2009-07-13 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 8:30 PM, David Joynerwdjoy...@gmail.com wrote: I have some comment below but would like to first make some general observations. Certainly I am not the expert on image processing but I have now spent a week or 2 on PIL. I know others have spoken in favor of PIL (I

[sage-devel] Re: PIL interface questions

2009-07-13 Thread Minh Nguyen
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 4:16 AM, Ondrej Certikond...@certik.cz wrote: SNIP What I hate about PIL is the lack of docstrings with example doctests. But honestly, I hate this about Python standard library too! Things like this: In [1]: a = s In [4]: a.format? Type:          

[sage-devel] Re: Can I keep build data once a package is installed ok?

2009-07-13 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: 2009/7/12 Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net: William Stein wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Craig Citrocraigci...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps this facility exists. If not, do others thinks it would be worth adding? Yep, this is very handy -- and indeed

[sage-devel] Re: Installation error occurred while installing ratpoints-2.1.2.p2

2009-07-13 Thread William Stein
2009/7/13 Peter petersamsim...@hotmail.com: Greetings.  I have just downloaded and attempted to build from source sage-4.1 and got the following error message: Error building ratpoints.  Please advise on how to fix the problem.  Relevant system information and portion of install.log are

[sage-devel] Re: PIL interface questions

2009-07-13 Thread William Stein
2009/7/13 Minh Nguyen nguyenmi...@gmail.com: On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 4:16 AM, Ondrej Certikond...@certik.cz wrote: SNIP What I hate about PIL is the lack of docstrings with example doctests. But honestly, I hate this about Python standard library too! Things like this: In [1]: a = s

[sage-devel] Re: OS X application bundle

2009-07-13 Thread gsw
Hi Max, On 11 Jul., 17:56, Maximilian Nickel max.nic...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, i've just created a simple script that creates an OS X application bundle for Sage. The usage is pretty simple, just copy the sage directory from the .dmg into the directory of the script and run 'make release'. I

[sage-devel] Re: PIL interface questions

2009-07-13 Thread Ondrej Certik
2009/7/13 William Stein wst...@gmail.com: 2009/7/13 Minh Nguyen nguyenmi...@gmail.com: On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 4:16 AM, Ondrej Certikond...@certik.cz wrote: SNIP What I hate about PIL is the lack of docstrings with example doctests. But honestly, I hate this about Python standard library

[sage-devel] Re: OS X application bundle

2009-07-13 Thread William Stein
2009/7/13 gsw georgswe...@googlemail.com: Hi Max, On 11 Jul., 17:56, Maximilian Nickel max.nic...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, i've just created a simple script that creates an OS X application bundle for Sage. The usage is pretty simple, just copy the sage directory from the .dmg into the

[sage-devel] Re: OS X application bundle

2009-07-13 Thread Minh Nguyen
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 4:49 AM, gswgeorgswe...@googlemail.com wrote: SNIP To be honest, the OS X fraction of the Sage Development Team is currently rather inactive, e.g. one of us (Michael Abshoff) is taking a temporary timeout from Sage development. Although there have been two or three

[sage-devel] Re: OS X application bundle

2009-07-13 Thread Minh Nguyen
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 4:58 AM, William Steinwst...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP I posted a binary already for OS X 64-bit: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/wstein/binaries/ Minh or Harald should hopefully post that to the sage.mathorg binaries page (hint hint). It's really easy to build

[sage-devel] Re: Installation error occurred while installing ratpoints-2.1.2.p2

2009-07-13 Thread Peter
Thanks for the answers. I'll see if I can get the system administrator to install a more current gcc. If I can't get him to, do you know if it's possible to install a local gcc for my own use? Thanks again, --Peter On Jul 13, 11:47 am, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/13 Peter

[sage-devel] Re: OS X application bundle

2009-07-13 Thread Maximilian Nickel
Hi Georg,thanks for your answers, i didn't know there was already code to generate an application bundle in sage. I'll take a look at it As far as I remember, the problems still open were with moving the app around, or copying it to a different computer (which in the Apple world is a

[sage-devel] Re: PIL interface questions

2009-07-13 Thread David Joyner
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Ondrej Certikond...@certik.cz wrote: On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 8:30 PM, David Joynerwdjoy...@gmail.com wrote: ... So what are the arguments against PIL and for VIPS? Here are two reasons (Why use VIPS?)

[sage-devel] OSSC2009 conference

2009-07-13 Thread Hazem
Will Sage be represented in this conference? http://www.osscweb.org/ Hazem --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-devel-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more

[sage-devel] Re: PIL interface questions

2009-07-13 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 2:02 PM, David Joynerwdjoy...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Ondrej Certikond...@certik.cz wrote: On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 8:30 PM, David Joynerwdjoy...@gmail.com wrote: ... So what are the arguments against PIL and for VIPS? Here are two

[sage-devel] Re: sage -upgrade 4.0 to 4.1

2009-07-13 Thread Jaap Spies
Jaap Spies wrote: William Stein wrote: [...] I've also fixed this in the official upgrade server, so it shouldn't cause trouble to anybody else. Thanks again for reporting this. So it is save to do upgrade #81 to my systemwide sage install starting with sage-1.5.1,2? Latest install is

[sage-devel] Re: sage -upgrade 4.0 to 4.1

2009-07-13 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Jaap, On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 7:33 AM, Jaap Spiesj.sp...@hccnet.nl wrote: SNIP So it is save to do upgrade #81 to my systemwide sage install starting with sage-1.5.1,2? Latest install is sage-4.0.2. Replying to myself: I gambled and: [j...@paix ~]$ sage

[sage-devel] Re: sage -upgrade 4.0 to 4.1

2009-07-13 Thread Jaap Spies
Minh Nguyen wrote: Hi Jaap, Hi Minh, On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 7:33 AM, Jaap Spiesj.sp...@hccnet.nl wrote: SNIP So it is save to do upgrade #81 to my systemwide sage install starting with sage-1.5.1,2? Latest install is sage-4.0.2. Replying to myself: I gambled and: [j...@paix ~]$

[sage-devel] Re: Can I keep build data once a package is installed ok?

2009-07-13 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Craig Citro wrote: Perhaps this facility exists. If not, do others thinks it would be worth adding? Yep, this is very handy -- and indeed already exists. Try sage -f -m foo.spkg. (I have no idea what m stands for ... maybe William does?) This will leave everything in $SAGE_ROOT/spkg/build

[sage-devel] Re: OSSC2009 conference

2009-07-13 Thread Marshall Hampton
I think the answer is probably no, since the (extended) submission deadline is over, but they don't have a posted schedule yet. It appears to be very Scilab-focused. -M.Hampton On Jul 13, 3:07 pm, Hazem hazem.biqa...@gmail.com wrote: Will Sage be represented in this conference?

[sage-devel] Re: PIL interface questions

2009-07-13 Thread J Elaych
Interesting, but I'm especially impressed by how well PIL stands up to VIPS. It looks like vips was primarily designed to have a small memory imprint, especially for image files that are larger than physical memory. PIL takes only about 1.5 times as long as vips on a dual core processor, so I

[sage-devel] Re: Polybori uses Sun's C++ compiler, ignoring CXX=g++

2009-07-13 Thread Dan Drake
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 at 05:38PM +0100, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: I noticed a couple of issues with polybori-0.5rc.p8 on Solaris. Note how on the first line, polybori uses the GNU C compiler gcc to compile a C file, but passes an unreconised option '-KPIC'. (That option would be acceptable to

[sage-devel] Re: sage-4.1

2009-07-13 Thread Justin C. Walker
Hi, Minh, On Jul 12, 2009, at 13:17 , Minh Nguyen wrote: On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 6:00 AM, Justin C. Walkerjus...@mac.com wrote: On Jul 12, 2009, at 12:12 , Minh Nguyen wrote: On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 5:02 AM, Justin C. Walkerjus...@mac.com wrote: [snip] I think you need to build the

[sage-devel] Need reviewer for Solaris fixes - can some try to build Sage on t2.

2009-07-13 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I have several Solaris fixed I'd like to get integrated. Most are based around the fact that the Sun linker takes different options to the GNU linker, and some packages make assumptions about the linker being the GNU one. If you try to build Sage on t2, you will find it will fail in several

[sage-devel] Re: Polybori uses Sun's C++ compiler, ignoring CXX=g++

2009-07-13 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Dan Drake wrote: On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 at 05:38PM +0100, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: I noticed a couple of issues with polybori-0.5rc.p8 on Solaris. Note how on the first line, polybori uses the GNU C compiler gcc to compile a C file, but passes an unreconised option '-KPIC'. (That option would

[sage-devel] PolyBoRi - can the status be resolved ?

2009-07-13 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
There is a ticket about updating PolyBoRi (Polynomials over Boolean Rings, which means nothing at all to me). http://sagetrac.org/sage_trac/ticket/6177 but no decision seems to have been made. I've got 2 patches I would like to apply to the current code, but are reluctant to submit them if

[sage-devel] Re: ReST in Sage 4.1: using .. MATH:: doesn't render LaTeX in HTML

2009-07-13 Thread Jason Grout
Jason Grout wrote: Minh Nguyen wrote: On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 2:37 AM, Pat LeSmitheqed...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP Apparently, the jsMath library hides all display equations, even if they are images. I find this funny: I can view the rendered equations. It's just that I have to refresh my

[sage-devel] Re: PIL interface questions

2009-07-13 Thread Jason Grout
David Joyner wrote: I have some comment below but would like to first make some general observations. Certainly I am not the expert on image processing but I have now spent a week or 2 on PIL. I know others have spoken in favor of PIL (I think Jason Grout and maybe some others) and that

[sage-devel] Re: [patch] fixes I conversion to sympy

2009-07-13 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Ondrej, On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Ondrej Certikond...@certik.cz wrote: Hi, I forgot my trac login, could someone please forward this to the trac? Thanks. SNIP Done. See ticket #6424 http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6424 -- Regards Minh Van Nguyen

[sage-devel] Re: Need reviewer for Solaris fixes - can some try to build Sage on t2.

2009-07-13 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi David, On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Dr. David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net wrote: I have several Solaris fixed I'd like to get integrated. Most are based around the fact that the Sun linker takes different options to the GNU linker, and some packages make assumptions about the linker

[sage-devel] Re: sage-4.1

2009-07-13 Thread Minh Nguyen
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Justin C. Walkerjus...@mac.com wrote: SNIP Ah... I think I see what has been causing you and everyone (including me) problems. The HTML version of the standard documentation has a main page that links to all the individual documents (tutorial, reference

[sage-devel] Re: [patch] fixes I conversion to sympy

2009-07-13 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Minh Nguyennguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ondrej, On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Ondrej Certikond...@certik.cz wrote: Hi, I forgot my trac login, could someone please forward this to the trac? Thanks. SNIP Done. See ticket #6424

[sage-devel] Re: sage-4.1

2009-07-13 Thread Pat LeSmithe
Minh Nguyen wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Justin C. Walkerjus...@mac.com wrote: then it can be frustrating and at times confusing why things don't work. If anyone is interested in helping out with making the standard documentation better, the following tickets already have patches.