[sage-devel] documentation changed in 7.1?

2016-03-21 Thread Harald Schilly
Hi, I'm the one updating doc.sagemath.org and just found out that building the documentation has changed in 7.1. I've my own scripts to fix the sources and combine this together into this website, so I'm wondering if that's broken now? Is there a way to still build it in the old way, such that

Re: [sage-devel] mails from trac marked as spam?

2016-03-18 Thread Harald Schilly
I have no idea about trac's email setup, can you forward me the source code of one of such emails? My guess is, that it doesn't properly sign the email, etc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[sage-devel] SageMath has been accepted as an GSoC 2016 mentor org

2016-02-29 Thread Harald Schilly
Hi, just a quick note to everyone: SageMath has yet again been accepted as a mentoring organization for this years GSoC More info on their new website here: https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com Next step: everyone who is interested to be a mentor, or at least help us dealing with applications,

[sage-devel] Re: Obtaining sage-trac account

2016-02-29 Thread Harald Schilly
Hi, so far, we do not even know if SageMath will be selected as an organization for GSoC. You can make yourself familiar with SageMath, of course, but for further activities I propose to wait until we know more. I don't know why you didn't get an answer, maybe your email got lost somewhere,

[sage-devel] Re: Bye

2016-02-25 Thread Harald Schilly
On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 4:25:41 AM UTC+1, kcrisman wrote: > > CC-BY-NC would be a good place to look in that case, I guess? > This is off-topic, but I just want to point out that an NC license (and similar ones) are quite restrictive, maybe more than you would think. You cannot use

[sage-devel] Re: A Question About Sage Automated Build Service ("Continuous Integration")

2016-02-22 Thread Harald Schilly
On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 12:22:41 PM UTC+1, Martin Vahi wrote: > > I ask, if there exist some set-up that test-builds Sage? > There is also http://build.sagemath.org/release/waterfall … you can click around and see what's going on. -- h -- You received this message because you are

Re: [sage-devel] promotional video

2016-02-22 Thread Harald Schilly
On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 6:08:40 PM UTC+1, Johan S. R. Nielsen wrote: > > Oh man, not *that* discussion again... It could be a psychological tactic, where he tries to influence our entire social group. See: Weaver, K., Garcia, S. M., Schwarz, N., & Miller, D. T. (2007). Inferring

Re: [sage-devel] Re: For whoever cares about undergrads (or wants to help William earn more money)

2016-02-15 Thread Harald Schilly
On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Nathann Cohen wrote: > Dear SageMath (Inc) employee, Not sure to whom you are talking to, since I'm not an employee of SMI. >> Have you, or haven't you? > > I have absolutely no problem with that. Good, everything is fine. Large

Re: [sage-devel] Re: For whoever cares about undergrads (or wants to help William earn more money)

2016-02-15 Thread Harald Schilly
Hi Nathann, your flames are getting boring. As I already wrote you a long time ago a simple to understand fact: by contributing to GPL licensed software, you somehow must have agreed to the terms of the GPL software. Have you, or haven't you? On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 3:32:00 PM UTC+1,

[sage-devel] Re: Torrent file downloads from http://www.sagemath.org/mirror/torrents.html fails with HTTP error 404

2016-01-21 Thread Harald Schilly
Do you remember where this broken link is? The page you are looking for is here: http://files.sagemath.org/torrents.html -- harald On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 8:01:04 PM UTC+1, Karl-Philipp Richter wrote: > > Hi, > FYI all downloads of `.torrent` files from >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage GSOC 2016

2016-01-20 Thread Harald Schilly
On Tuesday, January 19, 2016 at 4:15:43 PM UTC+1, Johan S. R. Nielsen wrote: > > How does it work with Sage's application to GSoC and what are the > relevant deadlines? Hi, the program is explained on the GSoC website, and the timeline is here:

Re: [sage-devel] sagemath developer manual

2016-01-18 Thread Harald Schilly
the hosting is on github, and if a subdirectory matches a project, it's a "sub-page" So, the second link is pointing here: https://github.com/sagemath/git-developer-guide I don't know anything about this repository. > Harald, I actually don't know where doc.sagemath is coming from, can you >

[sage-devel] Re: OSX binaries (including El Capitan)

2016-01-03 Thread Harald Schilly
On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Volker Braun wrote: > We should probably always word things as "OSX 10.4 and higher" and not "OSX > 10.4 - OSX 10.$CURRENT'" > > Harald, can you change the text on that page? yes, I'm currently fixing this. -- h -- You received this

[sage-devel] Re: OSX binaries (including El Capitan)

2015-12-09 Thread Harald Schilly
On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Volker Braun wrote: > Harald, do you want to do that? Yes, also, the website itself needs to be changed. Should I remove that warning entirely? -- harald -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[sage-devel] Re: el capitan statement

2015-10-07 Thread Harald Schilly
I've added a very short red banner to the download osx/intel download page for all mirrors. It does link back here to sage-devel, to the last two threads I found about that. What I don't want is to clutter the main index.html page with this. If this banner is not enough, then we could also

[sage-devel] Re: Broken link to old sources

2015-09-30 Thread Harald Schilly
Thank you, I've never thought that this link is also over there … and too bad there is this trailing / because otherwise the redirect would have worked :-\ On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > This page on the mirrors >

[sage-devel] Re: Broken link to old sources

2015-09-30 Thread Harald Schilly
ok ... that's fixed. -- harald On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Harald Schilly <harald.schi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you, I've never thought that this link is also over there … and too > bad there is this trailing / because otherwise the redirect would have > worked :-\ >

[sage-devel] Re: *.math.washington.edu hardware resources

2015-09-17 Thread Harald Schilly
ns, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/sagemath-users > > > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "sage.math users" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails fr

[sage-devel] Re: Please redirect the old homepage of my cohomology spkg

2015-09-13 Thread Harald Schilly
Well, I don't know who administers this "sage.math" server and AFAIK I don't even have root access. On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 7:29 PM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > IMHO it's Harald who takes care of this. I CC to him. > > On Friday, 11 September 2015 01:59:35 UTC-7, Simon King

[sage-devel] Re: Where should notebook links for 'Report a Problem' point? (http://sagemath.org/report-issue is gone)

2015-09-02 Thread Harald Schilly
On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 5:40 AM, Karl-Dieter Crisman wrote: > Website or just page? I meant a single page, like https://github.com/sagemath/website/blob/master/src/doc.html -- h -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel"

[sage-devel] Re: Where should notebook links for 'Report a Problem' point? (http://sagemath.org/report-issue is gone)

2015-09-01 Thread Harald Schilly
The .htaccess file is a remaining piece from the old days when this was served from the Apache webserver. One has to create a dedicated redirection website to point to the location. A ticket I found is 52 https://github.com/sagemath/website/issues/52 which fixes this in the realm of the website.

[sage-devel] Re: Missing igraph package on the mirrors?

2015-09-01 Thread Harald Schilly
I can only confirm that the files aren't on the server. Volker has a script for uploading them, so I'll assume he handles that. I'm not 100% sure how to do this (I'm guessing it's a matter of stuffing the files in the correct repositories) On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Michele Borassi

[sage-devel] Re: William Stein - CEO, SageMath, Inc. http://sagemath.com

2015-08-12 Thread Harald Schilly
On Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 7:55:45 PM UTC+2, Nathann Cohen wrote: But when sagemath.com is a website that sells Sage Cloud, we have a problem. Which problem in particular? Can you elaborate? Or do you just share your personal feelings with the aim to spread bad politics among those

[sage-devel] Re: package for old version

2015-08-11 Thread Harald Schilly
It's in the file archive: http://old.files.sagemath.org/spkg/archive/ppl-1.1pre9.p0.spkg -- harald On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 10:06 PM, Vincent Delecroix 20100.delecr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I was trying to build old version of Sage (it is holidays). But I was not able to found the package

[sage-devel] Re: Archive old-style spkg files

2015-08-04 Thread Harald Schilly
On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com wrote: Harald: The current achive section on the web page refers to http://old.files.sagemath.org/spkg/archive/, so I guess I should make a new /data/files/spkg/archive directory on the file server? Uhm, I'm not sure what you

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-cloud] Re: Announcing $0M in new funding for the SageMathCloud over the next 3 years

2015-07-09 Thread Harald Schilly
On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Eric Gourgoulhon egourgoul...@gmail.com wrote: I could not find how to proceed to actually send money to the SMC project... Please email supp...@sagemath.com because the specific plans are created individually. Also email us the ID strings of up to 5 projects,

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: remove combinat/mupad from sagemath website

2015-06-09 Thread Harald Schilly
On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 9:55 PM, Nicolas M. Thiery nicolas.thi...@u-psud.fr wrote: It's important to keep track of publications using Sage in order to have some sort idea of the usefulness of all the work we put into it. I further believe it's important to refine this further, to have

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: remove combinat/mupad from sagemath website

2015-06-09 Thread Harald Schilly
On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Nicolas M. Thiery nicolas.thi...@u-psud.fr wrote: Why do you need to rearrange/manage those pages at all? Just leave them as they are. I don't see the cost of this. Me neither. The current situation isn't ideal, but just removing one page and merging everything

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: remove combinat/mupad from sagemath website

2015-06-09 Thread Harald Schilly
On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Nathann Cohen nathann.co...@gmail.com wrote: As I said before, there are many things in there for which *nobody* knows what exactly they are about. Undocumented scripts, things which are never called by anything else, different workflows on top of each other.

[sage-devel] Re: Online Bug report form: is it dead?

2015-06-07 Thread Harald Schilly
On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 7:58 PM, kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote: Harald, any ideas on what remains to replace this? No idea, but I've made this issue to add a simple redirection page. https://github.com/sagemath/website/issues/52 -- harald -- You received this message because you are

[sage-devel] Re: Jobs involving SageMath

2015-06-07 Thread Harald Schilly
On Sunday, June 7, 2015 at 9:51:11 AM UTC+2, Nathann Cohen wrote: Yo ! I think it adding a link to that page on the sagemath.org homepage would make sense, what do you think? I guess. You can make a pull request: https://github.com/sagemath/website for the record:

[sage-devel] Re: The SageMath Foundation

2015-06-01 Thread Harald Schilly
+1 from my side to setting this up and I'm happy to help if possible. On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 3:22:47 PM UTC+2, kcrisman wrote: or European or other foundation would be best (e.g. for granting purposes), or possibly multiple such - I have year old plans to create a Sage foundation in

Re: [sage-devel] Re: 404 Error: page not found

2015-06-01 Thread Harald Schilly
On Wednesday, May 27, 2015 at 2:05:10 PM UTC+2, Nathann Cohen wrote: Has this historical data now just disappeared? The ticket is here https://github.com/sagemath/website/issues/14 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Is Sage living in a state of emergency ?

2015-05-18 Thread Harald Schilly
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 5:01 PM, mmarco mma...@unizar.es wrote: Do we have a plan for this emergency? ... otherwise it wouldn't be a real emergency, right? :-) Or could we just find ourselves suddenly without webpage/trac server? Webpage, Planet-Blog, and File services are covered. They work

[sage-devel] Re: Is Sage living in a state of emergency ?

2015-05-18 Thread Harald Schilly
On Sunday, May 17, 2015 at 1:52:47 PM UTC+2, Thierry (sage-googlesucks@xxx) wrote: Is Sage living in a state of emergency ? Yes - it could be nice to make them transparent for the people that do not have access to those servers to get the actual picture and start working on a

[sage-devel] Re: Broken links to doc already appearing

2015-05-17 Thread Harald Schilly
On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 1:04 PM, Samuel Lelièvre samuel.lelie...@gmail.com wrote: Yes. See the page (excerpt below): Cool, thank's for finding this, I'll send them an email! -- harald -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Broken links to doc already appearing

2015-05-16 Thread Harald Schilly
On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 8:58 AM, Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com wrote: The best thing would probably be to do stub html pages in www.sagemath.org/doc ok, here is one example out of 5132 (!!!) html pages: http://www.sagemath.org/doc/constructions/modular_forms.html … and in particular it

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Broken links to doc already appearing

2015-05-16 Thread Harald Schilly
On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com wrote: Which pdf are you talking about? The reference manual is build in separate sections. Ah, thank you, I didn't realize that! -- h -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Broken links to doc already appearing

2015-05-16 Thread Harald Schilly
On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 8:58 AM, Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com wrote: The best thing would probably be to do stub html pages in www.sagemath.org/doc .. yes, I was thinking about doing just that. Exactly like it is already done for the /doc/index.html page. Btw where is the git repo for

[sage-devel] Re: Broken links to doc already appearing

2015-05-15 Thread Harald Schilly
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Samuel Lelievre samuel.lelie...@gmail.com wrote: I can try to dig into the fastly documentation, community forum, or ask the support team. Well, not sure if this helps. This fastly CDN is the technology behind the github pages, that's why this comes into play.

[sage-devel] Re: Broken links to doc already appearing

2015-05-15 Thread Harald Schilly
On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 5:06:37 PM UTC+2, kcrisman wrote: I'm not blaming anyone, I want to say! But if there is something that can send www.sagemath.org/doc/reference/* to doc.sagemath.org/html/en/reference/* that would be REALLY REALLY awesome and I might give that person

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage's changelog

2015-05-13 Thread Harald Schilly
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Johannes dajo.m...@web.de wrote: What kind of issues? And what kind of help? Maybe Ican spend some time on it too. Thank you for your interest! :-) The list off issues is here: https://github.com/sagemath/website/issues ... where I think most of them are

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage's changelog

2015-05-13 Thread Harald Schilly
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 8:12 PM, kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote: If you or someone else is messing around a bit with the doc, note that currently http://www.sagemath.org/doc/ The documentation is at http://doc.sagemath.org/ … that previous location was only possible because a lot of things

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage's changelog

2015-05-13 Thread Harald Schilly
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 9:17 PM, Nathann Cohen nathann.co...@gmail.com wrote: What about all links from other pages to our doc? All broken? Do you have a list of all links? Me neither. It's possible to add a redirection page for the /doc/ page, that could help. -- harald -- You received this

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage's changelog

2015-05-13 Thread Harald Schilly
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Nathann Cohen nathann.co...@gmail.com wrote: As you just came and broke everything at once without asking ... I'm happy if there were a few more helping hands for the website. There are several technical and financial constraints (besides the time I'm spending

[sage-devel] Re: Sage's changelog

2015-05-13 Thread Harald Schilly
On Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 12:48:41 PM UTC+2, Nathann Cohen wrote: Some of us were wondering who was in charge of generating Sage's changelogs ... I'm also wondering about a proper way to deal with them. The transition of the webite away from the UW servers has completed and the

[sage-devel] SageMath and Python 3?

2015-05-09 Thread Harald Schilly
Same old topic, but there are new comments about this situation on reddit, also with regards to Python distributions like anaconda and canopy: http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/35a3n5/python_3_or_python_27_for_newbie/ -- Harald -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: developer map misaligned

2015-04-28 Thread Harald Schilly
I made this https://github.com/sagemath/website/issues/34 On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 10:36:24 AM UTC+2, Robert Bradshaw wrote: Looks like someone swapped the x and y coordinates. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To

[sage-devel] Re: sage-announce

2015-04-28 Thread Harald Schilly
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Samuel Lelièvre samuel.lelie...@gmail.com wrote: d. announcement (Harald Schilly). I'm not the one doing the announcements, I assume the release manager does it? But maybe we need someone else, especially because of b and c … where I never know for sure when

[sage-devel] GSoC 2015: 5 projects funded

2015-04-27 Thread Harald Schilly
Hello students and welcome to SageMath! This years GSoC funds five projects: (Multivariate) Asymptotic Expressions Benjamin Hackl and Daniel Krenn http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/details/google/gsoc2015/behackl/5649050225344512 Performance Improvements for the Graph Module of Sagemath

[sage-combinat-devel] Re: Citation list

2015-04-12 Thread Harald Schilly
On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 8:01 PM, Anne Schilling a...@math.ucdavis.edu wrote: It would be best to ask Harald Schilly for the git repository and make changes directly there. Hi, yes, that's true. The repository for all publications is here: https://github.com/sagemath/publications Appending

[sage-devel] Re: Sage logo -- Proposal

2015-04-02 Thread Harald Schilly
On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 5:23:53 PM UTC+2, jplab wrote: What do you think? Hi, sorry to spoil the party. I'm strongly against changing the logo in such a substantial way. I'm happy with slight adoptions or creating doodles (temporary modifications with a specific theme) but not a

[sage-devel] Bazel - Google's build system

2015-03-26 Thread Harald Schilly
Hi, about a year ago there were discussions about changing how SageMath is built. Today I read that Google released it's Bazel build system under Apache 2.0. https://github.com/google/bazel/ I'm not a build expert, but maybe this is something to reignite the discussion? ... or maybe not, we

Re: [sage-devel] Re: (just testing)

2015-03-26 Thread Harald Schilly
On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 5:55:09 PM UTC+1, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: On 2015-03-25 17:40, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: On 2015-03-25 17:35, Volker Braun wrote: seems to work ;-) No, Google is blacklisting a specific message (I tried to send it twice today, it didn't come through).

[sage-devel] Re: Fix mobile usability issues found on http://www.sagemath.org/

2015-03-24 Thread Harald Schilly
un-mobile-friendly sagemath.org is (see below). Harald Schilly moved the sagemath.org source code to https://github.com/sagemath/website so anybody can easily work on the website, send a pull request, etc. So -- is there anybody reading this who is good at making mobile-friendly

[sage-devel] GSoC: Your organization application has been accepted.

2015-03-02 Thread Harald Schilly
Yipieee! So, please, everyone who has already started to contribute to http://wiki.sagemath.org/GSoC/2015 check again and maybe enhance it a bit if necessary. Now is also the time to spread the word about this. General GSoC mailing list: If you haven't already, sign up here:

Re: [sage-devel] Sage is grown up; needs a last name

2015-02-20 Thread Harald Schilly
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 10:08 AM, mmarco mma...@unizar.es wrote: Should we change the way to cite it? (i.e. this page in the wiki: http://wiki.sagemath.org/Publications_using_SAGE) Maybe, when I changed all the strings on the website (hopefully nothing is seriously broken) ... it's not a

[sage-devel] Re: GSoC projects

2015-02-20 Thread Harald Schilly
On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 5:03:45 AM UTC+1, William wrote: Does anybody have any GSoC projects to add to ... Short update: Today is the proposal submission deadline. We are already set up for this. What still needs a little bit of further attention is the wiki page for project

Re: [sage-devel] Sage is grown up; needs a last name

2015-02-18 Thread Harald Schilly
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Thierry sage-googlesu...@lma.metelu.net wrote: and explain that sagemath leads to better results in web searches. btw, you get the by far best search result for math software (in google and startpage, not bing/yahoo) :-) -- harald -- You received this

[sage-devel] Re: Sage is grown up; needs a last name

2015-02-18 Thread Harald Schilly
On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 at 1:13:46 PM UTC+1, William wrote: SageMath, like the website url ... +1 from me. Hence this is #30 here: https://github.com/sagemath/website/issues/30 -- Harald -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel

[sage-devel] Re: GSoC 2015

2015-02-08 Thread Harald Schilly
Update. On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 2:06:23 PM UTC+1, Harald Schilly wrote: In two weeks... Tomorrow, the application period starts. A major and important part of the application is a good list of prospective projects. This is a list of ideas on what students can base their project

[sage-devel] Re: Integrate sage into spyder

2015-02-08 Thread Harald Schilly
On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 4:14:08 PM UTC+1, mmarco wrote: I thinki it would be good to have some kind of IDE to work on sage development. I have a (limited, but for our purposes fine) group license for PyCharm under the name of the Sage OSS project. Anyone who is interested, please

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 10th

2015-02-02 Thread Harald Schilly
On Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 6:23:03 PM UTC+1, kcrisman wrote: Yes. We really really need a place to sell swag. I think spreadshirt.com could be a good place to sell this. Does anyone have any experience with them? -- H -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[sage-devel] Re: getting a PyCharm professional license for us

2015-02-02 Thread Harald Schilly
I have a professional PyCharm license for sagemath.org development. The only issue is (or was) that it doesn't support all of Cython... apart from that, everything works very well. -- Harald On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 9:13:07 AM UTC+1, Ralf Stephan wrote: Hello, I'm using IDEs for

[sage-devel] GSoC 2015

2015-01-26 Thread Harald Schilly
In two weeks, this years Google Summer of Code repeats and starts with the application period for organizations. It will require us to write an application, a list of good project proposals, and -of course- some mentors. So, the first question is, how is our level of motivation and who is on

Re: [sage-devel] Re: What are we unable to do right now ?

2014-12-16 Thread Harald Schilly
On Friday, December 5, 2014 1:35:09 PM UTC+1, Fredrik Johansson wrote: On Friday, December 5, 2014 1:08:14 PM UTC+1, Jori Mantysalo wrote: Having documentation arranged by technical implementation is also bad. Having TESTS-section shown for normal user is bad. Having is_lattice() on

[sage-devel] Re: Where is the source tarball for Sage 6.2?

2014-12-08 Thread Harald Schilly
Thank's for spotting this, it's yet another inconsistency after splitting this onto the VM. That link should point here: http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/sagemath/www-files/src-old/ -- H On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Jeroen Demeyer jdeme...@cage.ugent.be wrote: Is there any place where

Re: [sage-devel] PyClaw

2014-12-03 Thread Harald Schilly
On Wednesday, December 3, 2014 12:09:54 PM UTC+1, David Joyner wrote: maybe having it installed on the cloud would be better anyway? It should be installed on SMC for some time now. Not sure how to to test it? Well, just tried their first example, seems like it crashes. No idea :( --

[sage-devel] Re: Sage.app binary problems

2014-12-03 Thread Harald Schilly
On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com wrote: Harald? can you delete sage-6.4-x86_64-Darwin-OSX_10.9_x86_64* from the mirrors? ok, they are gone. -- Harald -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To

Re: [sage-devel] PyClaw

2014-12-03 Thread Harald Schilly
On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 3:35 PM, David Joyner wdjoy...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Harald Schilly harald.schi...@gmail.com wrote: Well, just tried their first example, seems like it crashes. No idea :( Same here. On SMC we all sit in the same boat. Either it works

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Maple versus Mathematica

2014-12-02 Thread Harald Schilly
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 10:43 PM, maldun dom...@gmx.net wrote: Has someone more examples why he/she uses Sage instead of one of the 4Ms? in such a list, vendor lock-in is also a good point. imagine mathworks closes its doors … -- harald -- You received this message because you are subscribed

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Maple versus Mathematica

2014-12-01 Thread Harald Schilly
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 12:00 PM, mmarco mma...@unizar.es wrote: There are some european laws against comparative advertising. I assume this does only apply for actual advertising. Nobody is going to show those comparisons on TV ;-) P.S. 2: Is there some easy way to embed sagecell code in a

[sage-devel] Re: IMHO having sage-abuse publicly readable is a bad idea

2014-11-26 Thread Harald Schilly
My 2 cents, as short as possible: there could be sage-abuse and a hidden sage-abuse-intern. The only odd corner case happens, when someone who has been talked about on *-intern is some day later added to the *-intern list and reads about past discussions. Awkward! -- H -- You received this

Re: [sage-devel] Re: What to do with sage-abuse

2014-11-25 Thread Harald Schilly
On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 5:34:16 PM UTC+1, Nathann Cohen wrote: I assume that the judges will be carefully selected among the members of the community, ... To repeat my idea from the escalated thread: each judge could have support from the community, e.g. needs at least N supporters

[sage-devel] Re: Documentation links

2014-11-24 Thread Harald Schilly
On Monday, November 24, 2014 10:22:24 AM UTC+1, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: In fact, I think the translations should be mentioned also on http://www.sagemath.org/doc/index.html. I agree that external links to dead pages should go away. It piles up. I don't want to judge on relevancy, too.

Re: [sage-devel] Maple versus Mathematica

2014-11-22 Thread Harald Schilly
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Jean Bétréma jean.betr...@gmail.com wrote: Oops, imho a permutation is a very elementary object, coding it is not so hard, Why do you come to that conclusion? I'm not so sure. Moreover the construction Permutation([4,1,2,5,3]) suggests that this is the right

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Code of Conduct

2014-11-22 Thread Harald Schilly
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 11:40 PM, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk wrote: Do you think a code of conduct would lead to any benefits due to passive means, and if so how? I don't want to answer for him, but I still see a point here. Even though there is no

Re: [sage-devel] Maple versus Mathematica

2014-11-21 Thread Harald Schilly
On Nov 21, 2014 5:27 PM, Jean Bétréma jean.betr...@gmail.com wrote: Le mercredi 19 novembre 2014 00:03:27 UTC+1, William a écrit : lM = Map[If[# == 0, 0, 1] , M[[2]][[#[[2]] /@ M[[3]], #[[2]] /@ M[[4, {2}]; Holy f*2}];ng s/@! Sure this answer by Sage is less cryptic: sage:

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Code of Conduct

2014-11-19 Thread Harald Schilly
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 5:30 PM, mmarco mma...@unizar.es wrote: Also, from an ownership point of view, the right to move discussions between google groups belongs to google, and google's rules state that they would do so when the person that opened the group decides (correct me if i am wrong).

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Code of Conduct

2014-11-18 Thread Harald Schilly
On Monday, November 17, 2014 3:26:18 PM UTC+1, kcrisman wrote: What if instead of a code of conduct there was a community expectations SHORT document that just say what we expect? I'm a little bit late to this thread, but I've read all the mails. This expectations document sounds

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Code of Conduct

2014-11-18 Thread Harald Schilly
On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:37:21 PM UTC+1, William wrote: Here is I think a concrete, apolitical proposal. Calculating stakeholders by core contribution is certainly possible. My only contribution would be, that this sage-abuse mailing list is read-only for all others, not hidden and

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Code of Conduct

2014-11-18 Thread Harald Schilly
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 8:36 PM, Harald Schilly harald.schi...@gmail.com wrote: This is the result for the last year looking at the result again, I think it sorts by number of commits, not lines. one could tweak the number of top authors (default is 20) to get all of them in … so don't take

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Code of Conduct

2014-11-18 Thread Harald Schilly
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:29 PM, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk wrote: but count me out. As far as I can see, this idea is already abandoned anyway. Still, we could do this list of by self nomination and see if this leads to anything. We could call this

[sage-devel] Re: Maple versus Mathematica

2014-11-18 Thread Harald Schilly
Writing such a comparison for all 4 packages sounds like a huge task, but it could really pay off. Your episode does ring a bell, it reminds me of the MS-RSL license. This is maybe the same case and is only there to help you to make your code compatible with their product,that's all.

Re: [sage-devel] Maple versus Mathematica

2014-11-18 Thread Harald Schilly
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Stefan stefanvanz...@gmail.com wrote: Problems arise when thinking about more complicated mathematical objects. This is also my main argument ... The core point is, that Python allows you to define higher-level data-types, which are some combination of data

Re: [sage-devel] sage-6.4 fallout: stein-watkins-ecdb

2014-11-17 Thread Harald Schilly
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Jeroen Demeyer jdeme...@cage.ugent.be wrote: We should really *remove* the optional package stein-watkins-ecdb. I can do this, but it would break for older Sage installs, right? The bad one is in the huge directory, whereas the good one is in upstream. Besides

[sage-devel] Re: The Misfortunes of a Trio of Mathematicians Using Computer Algebra Systems

2014-10-29 Thread Harald Schilly
On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 1:25:08 PM UTC+1, parisse wrote: Just curious: what is the algorithm used by sage here? I have tried Bareiss, modular and p-adic with giac, and Bareiss seems the fastest: 0.02s on my Mac, vs about 1s for (proven) modular/p-adic. sage 6.3 returns the answer

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] IPython notebook

2014-09-20 Thread Harald Schilly
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 7:34 PM, Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com wrote: I've extended the IPython notebook to run Sage That's really cool. Does it automatically work when started from inside the sage environment? I'm thinking of the case, where someone is using Sage's ipython to open

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] IPython notebook

2014-09-20 Thread Harald Schilly
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 8:19 PM, Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com wrote: No, just like on the command line you can run vanilla IPython or IPython with Sage enhancements. ah, great. perfect. Related to that, is there a way to discern which flavor is inside? E.g. in the case of SMC, one has

Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-cloud] Google Summer of Code Alternative

2014-09-11 Thread Harald Schilly
On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:29:26 PM UTC+2, wstein wrote: Woops -- well I'm officially interested in mentoring something in number theory. ok, good. i'll register sage and keep you in the loop. h -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-cloud] Google Summer of Code Alternative

2014-09-10 Thread Harald Schilly
I've already asked on the mentor list about this, but I don't remember any reactions (but I was on a conference and didn't follow everything). IIRC, deadline is this Friday. I can register Sage and see what happens … H On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 6:52 PM, William A Stein wst...@uw.edu wrote: I'm

Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-release] You don't really think that Sage has failed, do you? (a comment about it)

2014-08-30 Thread Harald Schilly
That escalated quickly … On Friday, August 29, 2014 12:46:14 PM UTC+2, Bill Hart wrote: Why is this important? Because otherwise you would be taking European money and using it to fund a project which originated in the US (I think it fair to call it a US project). Remember Nov 23rd, 2009

Re: [sage-devel] reddit'ers at it again discussing sage...

2014-08-28 Thread Harald Schilly
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 9:26 AM, William A Stein wst...@uw.edu wrote: There's nothing at all fundamentally incompatible about the preparser and numpy/scipy/cvxopt. Everything could be sorted out with a few appropriate hooks, maybe some patches, etc. yes, I think so too. But just for

[sage-devel] sagemath.org relaunch

2014-08-28 Thread Harald Schilly
Hi, during the last couple of days I've rewritten much of sagemath.org and it's source is here: https://github.com/sagemath/website/ tl;dr: Bugfixes and a slight visual refreshment, borrowing ideas from some design principles. Almost everything should be at the same place … so relax ;-) Fixed:

[sage-devel] Re: How practical/useful would a native windows subset be?

2014-08-27 Thread Harald Schilly
On Monday, August 25, 2014 10:15:41 AM UTC+2, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) wrote: It seems Sage really could do with a native windows port. Just my 2 cents (after not really reading the whole thread) What about andLinux, which also has an X server included?

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How practical/useful would a native windows subset be?

2014-08-27 Thread Harald Schilly
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk wrote: Maybe I missed it, but it did not look to me as if there was any code published in a few years, but the website seems to have been updated. yes, you are right, i only saw 2014 on the

Re: [sage-devel] reddit'ers at it again discussing sage...

2014-08-27 Thread Harald Schilly
On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 4:16:46 PM UTC+2, bluescarni wrote: My impression is that the Scipy-Numpy-Sympy ecosystem is a better fit than Sage, at least for numerical purposes. Mine too, and despite Sage lacking with updates there is nobody holding you back from working with just that

[sage-devel] taskforce: documentation

2014-08-27 Thread Harald Schilly
I've read most of the comments which did roll in in the last few days. One repeated topic was about the documentation. I'm curious if there is currently anyone working on improving it? I think the reference documentation is really good. But I can see a definite lack to make it more accessible

Re: [sage-devel] reddit'ers at it again discussing sage...

2014-08-27 Thread Harald Schilly
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 9:19 PM, maldun dom...@gmx.net wrote: Lacking numpy support is really one of the big flaws of Sage since Numpy,Scipy et al form a marvelous Matlab replacement. Well, I think you didn't understand me or I don't understand you. There is already numpy, scipy and matplotlib

Re: [sage-devel] reddit'ers at it again discussing sage...

2014-08-27 Thread Harald Schilly
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Travis Scrimshaw tsc...@ucdavis.edu wrote: I thought there was already something which you can do to turn the preparsing off... Yes, there is. But imagine you are a new user! There is no way you can get from calling a function like this:

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