[sage-devel] Re: grant proposal season

2009-08-26 Thread Harald Schilly
On Aug 26, 4:19 am, Gonzalo Tornaria torna...@math.utexas.edu wrote: Any thoughts about using Sage in elementary school? I think a great project would be to connect the power of Sage with the ubiquity of the OLPC. In Uruguay we are nearing 100% deployment of the XO in public schools (grades 1

[sage-devel] Re: grant proposal season

2009-08-26 Thread Harald Schilly
On Aug 26, 11:15 am, kstueve kevin.stu...@gmail.com wrote: 5) Sage promotional materials e.g. t-shirts, posters, wallpapers, screen-savers etc. http://groups.google.se/group/sage-marketing currently empty, but i have made some posters and we can discuss and work on such things over there. if

[sage-devel] Re: Sage benchmark

2009-08-25 Thread Harald Schilly
On Aug 25, 11:10 am, Fredrik Johansson fredrik.johans...@gmail.com wrote: This is wrong; %timeit 'm1 + m2' measures the time evaluating the string 'm1 + m2' thanks, i was very suspicious anyways ;) H --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send an email to

[sage-devel] Re: Sage benchmark

2009-08-25 Thread Harald Schilly
On Aug 25, 1:35 pm, Michael Brickenstein brickenst...@mfo.de wrote: Well, if f=(a1 + a2 + a3 + a4 + a5 + a6 + a7)^29 forms an interesting problem for you: There is pFastPowerMC in the singular kernel ... Uhm, those benchmarks should show out of the box performances, and it's already quite

[sage-devel] Re: grant proposal season

2009-08-25 Thread Harald Schilly
On Aug 25, 8:56 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Grant proposal season is upon us... Implement a cross-browser web-application testing infrastructure based on webdriver http://code.google.com/p/webdriver/ for the notebook, focused on functionality, consistency and concurrency. For

[sage-devel] Re: grant proposal season

2009-08-25 Thread Harald Schilly
Statistics, beginning with a class for holding data with descriptions (I think of something based on pytables and hdf) ... methods for subselection, transformation and assignments (at least what's possible in R with data.frames) ... and then more classes with data/object interactions that wrap or

[sage-devel] Re: Using MPIR or GMP with multiple memory managers

2009-08-24 Thread Harald Schilly
On Aug 24, 8:52 am, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Help! What is going on!? Fun thread to read... That's a maxima bug for sure. Has anyone tried older versions of maxima? If it was better years ago, I think of bisection to track down the change it introduced this. Has someone asked on

[sage-devel] Re: Using MPIR or GMP with multiple memory managers

2009-08-24 Thread Harald Schilly
On Aug 24, 12:29 pm, andrejv andrej.vodopi...@gmail.com wrote: If this is true the slowdown should be decreased if you add nolabels:true; at the top of in. Wow, thanks for the insight, this works!!! sage: maxima.eval('nolabels:true;') 'true' sage: %timeit maxima.eval('1+1') 100 loops, best of

[sage-devel] Re: Using MPIR or GMP with multiple memory managers

2009-08-24 Thread Harald Schilly
On Aug 24, 4:57 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Here's the responsible lisp code by the way from suprv1.lisp: [eyecancer] now i got it, lisp is the real python (snake) Does lisp have hash tables?  :-) http://cl-cookbook.sourceforge.net/hashes.html has commands that aren't used

[sage-devel] Re: Sage benchmark

2009-08-22 Thread Harald Schilly
On Aug 22, 11:08 pm, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: If that whole thing could be implemented, it would make for interesting results. Karl might even want to provide a link to Sage results! And I would like to put it on the website ;) It might be useful/fair to add other

[sage-devel] Re: Sage benchmark

2009-08-22 Thread Harald Schilly
On Aug 22, 11:53 pm, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: What would be good is if we could have the exact same one Mathematica uses, but doing that without Wolfram Research's permission could be a breach of copyright. Uhm, it could be a copyright on the original test, but my

[sage-devel] Re: Sage benchmark

2009-08-22 Thread Harald Schilly
On Aug 23, 12:24 am, Simon King simon.k...@nuigalway.ie wrote: So, over QQ, MMA is slightly faster, but over finite fields Sage clearly wins? That is already something worth pointing out. I'm not a mma expert, but since they have no system in place to define the ring it's noteworthy to stick

[sage-devel] Re: enhance usability of symbolic expressions?

2009-08-21 Thread Harald Schilly
On Aug 20, 11:08 pm, rjf fate...@gmail.com wrote: Totally separating variable names -- that is, names that can be assigned values, and symbols, that cannot be assigned (ever) could clarify matters, but I think that no CAS does this. I'm not sure how you mean it, but it's probably the case

[sage-devel] new group sage-marketing

2009-08-21 Thread Harald Schilly
Hello, I've just created http://groups.google.com/group/sage-marketing It's about promoting Sage, developing information materials, posters, sheets, t-shirts and similar. Everyone who wants to help spreading the word about Sage is invited! H --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~

[sage-devel] Re: Suggestion to print extra information in the banner.

2009-08-21 Thread Harald Schilly
On Aug 21, 7:12 pm, Simon King simon.k...@nuigalway.ie wrote: return a dictionary D, where.. I like that idea! Let's start with collecting commands: import sys; sys.platform for the platform? os.environ['SAGE_ROOT'] might be nice for bugreports? import multiprocessing;

[sage-devel] Re: Version 4.1.1 cannot be launched in Debian unstable

2009-08-21 Thread Harald Schilly
On Aug 21, 6:41 pm, Minh Nguyen nguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote: Harald Schilly reported a similar problem ... I had no problem, it was just this one i was talking about ;) H --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com

[sage-devel] Re: enhance usability of symbolic expressions?

2009-08-20 Thread Harald Schilly
On Aug 19, 10:43 pm, Robert Bradshaw rober...@math.washington.edu wrote: Is u.subs(globals()) good enough? If it would work, yes ... expr.evaluate() could be just that, of course. plus, mentioning it in the introduction tutorials :) H --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To

[sage-devel] Re: Making a mirror of the documentation

2009-08-20 Thread Harald Schilly
On Aug 20, 2:19 pm, Thierry Dumont tdum...@math.univ-lyon1.fr wrote: Hi, Always for my university wide Sage server (yes, I'm back), I would like to make the Sage documentation available for all the users, together with other documentation (Python...). outch, please don't torture our poor

[sage-devel] Re: Making a mirror of the documentation

2009-08-20 Thread Harald Schilly
On Aug 20, 2:19 pm, Thierry Dumont tdum...@math.univ-lyon1.fr wrote: Hi, Always for my university wide Sage server (yes, I'm back), I would like to make the Sage documentation available for all the users, together with other documentation (Python...). outch, please don't torture our poor

[sage-devel] Re: Bressoud on Alpha

2009-08-20 Thread Harald Schilly
On Aug 20, 4:04 pm, kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote: ... the interesting semantic interpreting of various requests for integrals... My first thought on this: Uhm, so you not only don't know what Mathematica does, but you also no longer know how it actually understood your input!? (but nice

[sage-devel] enhance usability of symbolic expressions?

2009-08-19 Thread Harald Schilly
here is another report a problem message from the notebook interface. It's not a bug (i think) but it gives insight in how Sage is used and over what users stumble when using it for simple things. -- This doesn't work: var('k') u = 1 + k k = 1 u.n() -- It is

[sage-devel] Re: enhance usability of symbolic expressions?

2009-08-19 Thread Harald Schilly
On Aug 19, 8:56 pm, Nick Alexander ncalexan...@gmail.com wrote: This is merely dynamic versus lexical scope.  When you need dynamic   scope, it's not easy to fake it.  Of course, most of the time, you   don't need it and in fact don't want it :) Yes, my proposal was to introduce a new

[sage-devel] Sage to Maxima Conversion Error /w differentiating a function

2009-08-17 Thread Harald Schilly
From the notebook's report a problem bugtracker: The conversion of a sage expression to maxima depends of the argument order of previous defined functions. For example: var('x y t') L=function('L', t, x, y) m1=maxima(diff(L,t)) L=function('L', x, y, t) m2=maxima(diff(L,t)) m2 delivers the wrong

[sage-devel] assume(n, 'integer') causes desolve to fail

2009-08-17 Thread Harald Schilly
Another one from the notebook's report a problem bugtracker about ODEs: assume(n, 'integer') causes desolve to fail Here is the code that fails : var('t n') assume(n, 'integer') f = function('f',t) ode = diff(f,t) + (-1)^n*f == 0 desolve(ode, f, [0,1], t) It should do the same as : var('t

[sage-devel] Problem Computing Artin Symbol

2009-08-17 Thread Harald Schilly
From the notebook's report a problem bugtracker: Problem Computing Artin Symbol problem description The command artin_symbol(P) doesn't compute the Artin Symbol in a specific case. Below is the code. The prime 83 splits as PQ, where P, Q have N(P)=83^5. There is an Artin

[sage-devel] Re: matching in Sage

2009-08-15 Thread Harald Schilly
On Aug 14, 10:26 pm, Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz wrote: what am I doing wrong? don't know, i copy/pasted it in 4.1.1.rc2 sage: sage: var('x,y,z,a,b,c,d,e,f') (x, y, z, a, b, c, d, e, f) sage: (x, y, z, a, b, c, d, e, f) (x, y, z, a, b, c, d, e, f) sage: sage: w0 = SR.wild(0); w1 =

[sage-devel] Re: sage build progress indicator

2009-08-14 Thread Harald Schilly
On Aug 13, 6:19 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: You should include this with sage. You could make it    SAGE_ROOT/local/bin/sage-progress Yes, sounds good to me. I just have to tweak it further to be really useful and more intelligent. H

[sage-devel] 4.1.1.rc2 doctests fail on my atom netbook

2009-08-14 Thread Harald Schilly
I compiled 4.1.1.rc2 which did fine and then ran all doctests. It's a HP 2140 dual core atom, 2gb ram, ubuntu 9.04 netbook remix. The following doctests failed: File /home/harri/sage/sage-4.1.1.rc2/devel/sage/sage/symbolic/expression.pyx, line 1000: sage: d = {u: 3, v: 5}; d.values()

[sage-devel] Re: barriers to community growth

2009-08-13 Thread Harald Schilly
On Aug 13, 12:59 am, Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz wrote: Did you find some documentation for the python api? I only found this: the api seems to be language independent (COM) and well, i never really looked into it but get the sdk here: http://dlc.sun.com/virtualbox/vboxsdkdownload.html and

[sage-devel] sage build progress indicator

2009-08-13 Thread Harald Schilly
Just for fun I've written a script that tells me how far Sage has come when building from scratch: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/schilly/sage_progress I'm not sure if it is counting the spkgs correctly or if it really ends at 100%, but maybe someone else likes it, too ;) Also, is there

[sage-devel] Re: barriers to community growth

2009-08-12 Thread Harald Schilly
On Aug 12, 3:58 pm, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: The ability to post a question and get an answer is reasonable period of time is important. My guess is that Sage's response time is excellent and in some cases that take longer there is no real answer anyways. I hope google

[sage-devel] Re: barriers to community growth

2009-08-12 Thread Harald Schilly
On Aug 12, 8:04 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: At this point VirtualBox is like a massive breath of fresh air compared to vmware ... and don't forget, virtualbox has a python API. That might be useful sometimes and fits perfectly. H

[sage-devel] Re: elliptic_e(0.5, 0.1) differs from Mathematica 7 by about 0.04%.

2009-08-11 Thread Harald Schilly
On Aug 11, 6:19 pm, rjf fate...@gmail.com wrote: Or worse, they may be included in Sage and jeopardize uh, the security of the USA. I'm sure the security of USA does not depend on Sage -- but if it does, it would be the #1 selling argument I would put on the homepage :) My personal guess is

[sage-devel] Re: Sage benchmark

2009-08-10 Thread Harald Schilly
On Aug 8, 12:44 pm, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: Has anyone ever thought of developing a Sage benchmark... I was thinking about a benchmark website, presenting some tasks and their timings. I've never finished it but it would still be nice if there is something as part of

[sage-devel] Re: non-English documentation on the website?

2009-07-29 Thread Harald Schilly
On Jul 29, 2:15 pm, Dan Drake dr...@kaist.edu wrote: Hello, Today I answered an email from a French student here at my university, and I (naturally) suggested using Sage. I included some helpful links, and I couldn't find any of the French documentation on the website.

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: CoMarketing: Sage Sun

2009-07-24 Thread Harald Schilly
On Jul 23, 7:09 pm, rjf fate...@gmail.com wrote: Regarding Sage running on a server: some of the components may be sufficiently general as to pose hazards in a server environment. For example, Maxima can create and delete files, quickly fill up all available memory, etc. I would guess that

[sage-devel] Re: sage -upgrade via mirrors

2009-07-24 Thread Harald Schilly
On Jul 22, 8:32 pm, Harald Schilly harald.schi...@gmail.com wrote: On Jul 20, 2:09 pm, Marshall Hampton hampto...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jan, I thought you could do something like: sage -upgrade MIRROR That whole business is now http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6612 and using

[sage-devel] Re: sage -upgrade via mirrors

2009-07-22 Thread Harald Schilly
On Jul 20, 9:24 pm, Harald Schilly harald.schi...@gmail.com wrote: On Jul 20, 2:41 pm, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: As I understand it, the -upgrade downloads just the spkgs it needs. However, if all that is available on the mirror is the complete .tar file (i.e

[sage-devel] Re: sage -upgrade via mirrors

2009-07-22 Thread Harald Schilly
On Jul 22, 4:42 pm, Jan Groenewald j...@aims.ac.za wrote: Perhaps the random noise is enough of randomness...? not for me here, it was always the same (CH). You test this by opening index.html? Everything here is proxied, and in low bandwidth environments HAVE to be proxied. By policy

[sage-devel] Re: sage -upgrade via mirrors

2009-07-22 Thread Harald Schilly
On Jul 22, 5:58 pm, Jan Groenewald j...@aims.ac.za wrote: It poses quite a problem for this. It might be better like ubuntu which during install chooses your country's mirror. SAGE could use some geolocation thing to redirect to your continent's mirror? Unless the user overrides it? Uhm,

[sage-devel] Re: sage -upgrade via mirrors

2009-07-22 Thread Harald Schilly
On Jul 20, 2:09 pm, Marshall Hampton hampto...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jan, I thought you could do something like: sage -upgradeftp://ftp.sun.ac.za/pub/mirrors/www.sagemath.org/ i.e. you can give an explicit URL, but that doesn't seem to work.  I guess the tarball needs to be unpacked on that

[sage-devel] different formatting of output of eigenvectors_left depending on which space the matrix is over and numerical instability

2009-07-21 Thread Harald Schilly
This is from the notebook's report a problem bugtracker, there are *two* different problems reported. Machine is Linux/32bit on Sage 4.0.2. Quote: different formatting of output of eigenvectors_left depending on which space the matrix is overA = matrix(QQ,3,3,range(9)) B =

[sage-devel] Re: different formatting of output of eigenvectors_left depending on which space the matrix is over and numerical instability

2009-07-21 Thread Harald Schilly
On Jul 21, 1:36 pm, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: The RDF uses scipy, which in turn uses the standard fortran libraries to compute these things.  We could maybe make a bigger cutoff for deciding when the returned value is zero.  But I think we still ought to call

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: CoMarketing: Sage Sun

2009-07-21 Thread Harald Schilly
Here is my answer to that mail. Maybe there are some additional thoughts about how to present Sage to a wider audience? Explaining others what Sage is about? Exchange of Sage knowledge and experience, and so on. Features alone don't help to pursue our mission ;) - Can you provide a few key

[sage-devel] Re: sage -upgrade via mirrors

2009-07-20 Thread Harald Schilly
On Jul 20, 2:41 pm, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: As I understand it, the -upgrade downloads just the spkgs it needs. However, if all that is available on the mirror is the complete .tar file (i.e., not extracted), there are no spkgs to download.  You would have to download

[sage-devel] Re: sources

2009-07-09 Thread Harald Schilly
On Jul 9, 5:20 pm, Kevin Horton khorto...@rogers.com wrote: I have tried compressing the sage.*.tar files using gzip and bzip2.   The compression is insignificant, at least when using the default   compression levels.   % ls -l *tar* -rw-r--r--   1 XXX   staff  215244800 Jun 19 08:46

[sage-devel] Re: sources

2009-07-09 Thread Harald Schilly
On Jul 9, 6:48 pm, Marshall Hampton hampto...@gmail.com wrote: Seems like it might be worth it to save 65 MB!  The 7z source is small and looks pretty portable. -M. Hampton I don't know about other linux distributions besides ubuntu, mac osx or solaris, but if it is everywhere available as a

[sage-devel] Re: Error building sage (sqlite problem)

2009-07-08 Thread Harald Schilly
On Jul 8, 3:49 pm, Christian Weiss weissi-ch...@gmx.de wrote: IT WORKS! I have downloaded your linked file and: now it works! Hi, could you tell me (private mail or on the list here) what you did the first time? Was it just a broken download or the wrong file? Ideas for improvment? Harald (I

[sage-devel] Re: Tutorial topics for SciPy'09 Conference

2009-07-01 Thread Harald Schilly
On Jul 1, 12:57 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:    http://fdoperez.blogspot.com/2009/06/scipy-advanced-tutorials-results... I don't know if I should interpret this as: my interpretation is, that people simply want to learn more about those tools which they already know about. sage

[sage-devel] Re: video for sage days 16

2009-06-26 Thread Harald Schilly
On Jun 25, 9:51 pm, Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz wrote: Here I am hosting the video files on the sage.math server and that's it, no restrictions... true, and i think the ultimate goal is to use the video tag of html5 (firefox 3.5 and friends) and encode to ogg theora. there is also a

[sage-devel] Re: Sage on Wikipedia

2009-06-25 Thread Harald Schilly
On Jun 25, 10:39 pm, Utpal Sarkar doe...@gmail.com wrote: The link to the sage tutorial from the knol article seems to be broken thx, fixed. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group,

[sage-devel] Re: Sage on Wikipedia

2009-06-24 Thread Harald Schilly
of an wikipedia for experts. This means, that an article is always associated with an author and there are no independent topics. Last time when I improved Sage's wikipedia page, I also started this: http://knol.google.com/k/harald-schilly/sage It's very general, but improvements are welcome. Anybody

[sage-devel] Re: How to get into developing Sage slides

2009-06-22 Thread Harald Schilly
On Jun 22, 12:46 am, Martin Albrecht m...@informatik.uni-bremen.de wrote: Hi, as mentioned earlier I am preparing a talk on how to get started with Sage development for Tuesday here at SD16. A first rc for my set of slides is at:    

[sage-devel] Re: How to get into developing Sage slides

2009-06-22 Thread Harald Schilly
On Jun 22, 12:13 pm, Martin Albrecht m...@informatik.uni-bremen.de wrote: I will not say 'no' to that! Thank you! Can you prepare it as an SVG graphic so that I can adapt the colour if needed? yes sure, i hope i have some time to do it today -- and i suppose you want lcars design ;) h

[sage-devel] sage 4.0.1 on linux mandriva/testing

2009-06-21 Thread Harald Schilly
I just found this one: http://fr2.rpmfind.net//linux/RPM/mandriva/devel/cooker/i586/media/contrib/testing/sagemath-4.0.1-4mdv2010.0.i586.html H --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group,

[sage-devel] Fwd: sigsam.org/awards/jenks/

2009-06-20 Thread Harald Schilly
A nomination for this prize (and similar ones) would be a huge boost for sage. I hope we don't forget to ask for you support! ;) Harald -- Forwarded message -- From: Frank Sottile sott...@math.tamu.edu Date: Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 18:49 PS: (share the following with your team:    

[sage-devel] Re: twitter?

2009-06-17 Thread Harald Schilly
On Jun 16, 6:31 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Should we be using twitter for something? no, and http://twitter.com/sagemath and hardly alive. you have the account details somewhere in your emails ;) h --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send

[sage-devel] Re: http://wiki.sagemath.org/interact

2009-06-08 Thread Harald Schilly
On Jun 8, 6:20 pm, Nick Alexander ncalexan...@gmail.com wrote:   * I want these amazing interact examples to be included in the sage   library, as incredibly cool building blocks for future interacts. i could think of something like interact_plot(function | value pairs for list plot | ...)

[sage-devel] mlabwrap in sage?

2009-06-08 Thread Harald Schilly
Today I first heard about mlabwrap. It's something like the rpy python module (included in sage) for wrapping R, but for matlab. It makes working with matlab in python (i.e. converting to numpy datastructures) easier. Maybe useful for sage? Has anybody experience with it? The survey from last

[sage-devel] Re: Sage Grand Tour

2009-06-05 Thread Harald Schilly
before i forget, while looking at the database section, http://www.pytables.org/ comes to my mind and there is no trac ticket for it. Maybe we should include it? besides that i'll write you some lines about numerical optimization. h --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post

[sage-devel] simplification worse in 4.0

2009-06-04 Thread Harald Schilly
I got this bug report from the report a problem link in the notebook: problem description: I did some basic control systems theory, but the output looks way too much complicated, previous version was much better in this aspect. A = matrix([[1,-3,-1,-2],[2,-1,1,-1],[0,2,-3,1],[-3,4,-1,1]]) B =

[sage-devel] segfault after pynac switch

2009-06-04 Thread Harald Schilly
i got this bug report from the report a problem link in the notebook, i can confirm this on sagenb.org using 4.0 --- When running the following code, Sage 4.0 segfaults. theta1,theta2=var('theta1,theta2') g0=theta1 h0=g0.subs(theta1=1,theta2=0) Various perturbations (such as not subbing for

[sage-devel] Re: release notes for sage-4.0

2009-06-03 Thread Harald Schilly
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 06:33, Minh Nguyen nguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote: You can find a nicely formatted release tour of Sage 4.0 at http://mvngu.wordpress.com/2009/06/03/sage-4-0-released/ cool thanks !!! .. first thing i did today is including it in the motd of sagemath.org ;) h

[sage-devel] Re: release notes for sage-4.0

2009-06-03 Thread Harald Schilly
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 09:14, Minh Nguyen nguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote: What about brushing your teeth? :-) coffee now, then brushing! ;) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send

[sage-devel] Re: Release Management

2009-06-02 Thread Harald Schilly
On Jun 2, 9:12 am, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Since Michael has mentioned that he's going to be stepping down as release manage... I would like to add, that we probably need to organize us a bit more. For example, when do we post on sage-announce 4.0? ... etc. (website and mirrors

[sage-devel] Re: sage blog aggregation : planet.sagemath.org

2009-05-31 Thread Harald Schilly
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 03:24, Minh Nguyen nguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote: However, if the web browser is not maximized, the navigation bar on the right can still overlap the blog posts section. I've tried using the CSS option overflow: auto to no effect. i didn't look into that, thanks for

[sage-devel] Re: sage-4.0

2009-05-31 Thread Harald Schilly
On May 31, 1:49 am, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: This is precisely what happened.   ... Good, and i have an idea: The script could use the timestamp of the md5sums.txt file and ignore it's entries if the timestamp of the respective .zip file is newer! Then, you don't have to delete the

[sage-devel] Re: updating 3.4.2 -- 4.0

2009-05-31 Thread Harald Schilly
it's noted in the readme file, the part about the new release procedures. you have to go into the ./www/inc subdirectory, there is a variables.shtml file. but, before you edit it and announce the binaries, i suggest to wait for the mirrors to sync! harald On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 00:06, William

[sage-devel] Re: updating 3.4.2 -- 4.0

2009-05-31 Thread Harald Schilly
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 02:41, William Stein wst...@gmail.com http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/mvngu/doc/ Harald, can you take care of pushing this to sagemath.org, or ... should we get Minh to start doing that? I just did it. html is online, someone should check it. the pdf files are

[sage-devel] Re: sage-4.0

2009-05-30 Thread Harald Schilly
On May 30, 8:46 pm, Kevin Horton khorto...@rogers.com wrote: What is the correct MD5 for the tarball?  It is listed at 811388eac1e33fc4ec837d9e05b6b95b on the web page, yet I got 1f4e16b8f759174ad2c107161e1b03a2 on my downloaded tarball.  I downloaded again, and got the same MD5.  It expands

[sage-devel] Re: sage blog aggregation : planet.sagemath.org

2009-05-29 Thread Harald Schilly
On May 25, 5:58 am, Minh Nguyen nguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I've tweaked planet sage a bit ... Small update, I've sticked my fingers into the templates and css code. Now the borders are better and things don't run into each other. http://planet.sagemath.org/ h

[sage-devel] Re: Web page looks pretty poor compared to Mathematica's

2009-05-26 Thread Harald Schilly
On May 26, 9:17 am, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: whereas the sage site has 14 errors. to my defese, two of them are not really valid errors and should be warnings and the remaining 12 are the snippet from mailhide.recaptcha.net .. obviously they provided an erroneous code. i

[sage-devel] Re: Web page looks pretty poor compared to Mathematica's

2009-05-26 Thread Harald Schilly
On May 26, 1:10 am, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Is this right:  (1) edit ~/www2-dev/www/*  (2) Run the script go_live.sh in www2-dev yes, and before you do (2) you can always check your changes in the ./ sandbox/ subdirectory. see ~/www2-dev/README.TXT Also, I'll add something to

[sage-devel] Re: Web page looks pretty poor compared to Mathematica's

2009-05-24 Thread Harald Schilly
On May 24, 3:14 pm, Gonzalo Tornaria torna...@math.utexas.edu wrote: IMHO,  the sagemath.org webpage is very nice and lean, but a little bit too plain wrt colors, and a lack of contrast. In addition, the border  color (around the white box with the actual content) is too bright, which draws

[sage-devel] Re: sage blog aggregation : planet.sagemath.org

2009-05-23 Thread Harald Schilly
to give it a shot if Harald Schilly don't object. Since starting my Wordpress blog, I've written over ten posts about Sage, none of which were ever aggregated on the Sage planet. Having said that, I admit that I know next to nothing about how planet.sagemath.org works. No, i don't object

[sage-devel] sagemath rpm @ mandrake/mandriva

2009-05-23 Thread Harald Schilly
have you noticed that mandrake/mandriva have something going on with sagemath? forum 22 may: http://www.nabble.com/-Cooker--sagemath-experimental-package---www.sagemath.org-td23663618.html seeking for feedback more: http://sophie.zarb.org/srpm/Mandriva,cooker,/sagemath rpms:

[sage-devel] Re: Web page looks pretty poor compared to Mathematica's

2009-05-23 Thread Harald Schilly
On May 23, 6:43 pm, bump b...@match.stanford.edu wrote: I have one constructive comment, which is that one gets misled in looking for the documentation. There are two buttons... Well, you know, two points for my defense: I'm not a native speaker and these things evolved over time. i.e. help

[sage-devel] Re: Web page looks pretty poor compared to Mathematica's

2009-05-23 Thread Harald Schilly
On May 23, 7:34 pm, simon.k...@uni-jena.de wrote: 2. Provide a direct link to the FAQ on the main page. Actually it took me a while to find them. I thought about that, but my feeling is that the wiki faq page (do you mean that one?) has very poor quality. i just looked there and old things

[sage-devel] Re: Greek letters

2009-05-19 Thread Harald Schilly
On May 19, 9:44 am, hpon peter.norli...@gmail.com wrote: html($$ \sigma =  %s $$ %latex(value)) uhm, it might not help you, but for value=3.124 it works for me... What do you suggest? system, platform, browser and sage version number please ;) h

[sage-devel] Re: statistics in sage

2009-05-18 Thread Harald Schilly
On May 18, 12:29 am, mhampton hampto...@gmail.com wrote: So I have started a file basic_stats.py in the stats directory, with a ridiculously simple start:... I've thought about this about a year ago but had no time to do anything beyond thinking. I very strongly suggest to introduce a class

[sage-devel] Re: 'report bug' link on sagemath.org?

2009-05-18 Thread Harald Schilly
On May 18, 11:40 am, Franco Saliola sali...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps we should add a 'report bug' link on sagemath.org? in the notebook, top right, is the report a problem link and it would be easy to include it in the header of sagemath.org, too. problem: i'm currently the only one who looks

[sage-devel] Re: 'report bug' link on sagemath.org?

2009-05-18 Thread Harald Schilly
On May 18, 2:50 pm, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote: Just put in a link to the wiki to a new page called    http://wiki.sagemath.org/support/ReportingBugs ok, sounds good .. done h --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to

[sage-devel] Re: statistics in sage

2009-05-18 Thread Harald Schilly
On May 19, 12:11 am, hou.andrew hou.and...@gmail.com wrote: That would be amazing. It'd be neat to have a lot of graphics already implemented. the first thing that always comes to my mind is something like or an interface to ggplot2 for sage. http://had.co.nz/ggplot2/ h

[sage-devel] Re: sage days video and photos

2009-05-17 Thread Harald Schilly
On May 17, 9:30 pm, Jaap Spies j.sp...@hccnet.nl wrote: Even compressed the screens are legible! i have nearly no experience with mencoder, i think the quality could be improved by tweaking some parameters. e.g. reducing the number of frames per second. maybe someone has better ideas? not

[sage-devel] Re: sage days video

2009-05-16 Thread Harald Schilly
On May 17, 12:13 am, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/wstein/sagedays15/ nice, i've compressed your talk to be able to watch it without waiting too long for the transfer. you should probably compress all files? on sage.math, this works: $ mencoder

[sage-devel] Re: Google Code Search

2009-05-11 Thread Harald Schilly
I never looked into that, thx. Every kind of exposure is good imho. H On May 11, 7:00 pm, Carlo Hamalainen carlo.hamalai...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, What do people think about adding Sage to Google Code Search? By that I mean either submitting it directly

[sage-devel] webdriver - test framework for websites

2009-05-09 Thread Harald Schilly
this tests websites (i.e. our notebook) and could be useful. it is nearer to the OS than selenium, which is just js based. http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2009/05/introducing-webdriver.html http://code.google.com/p/webdriver/ h --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post

[sage-devel] Re: Clarification of Sage and GPL

2009-05-08 Thread Harald Schilly
On May 6, 10:05 pm, Robert Bradshaw rober...@math.washington.edu wrote: I think it depends on the context Yeahr, I think so too, and that's the reason why i think we will never get an answer based on technical facts and we could discuss forever on this subject. The jurisdictional system

[sage-devel] Re: papers using Sage

2009-05-07 Thread Harald Schilly
On May 7, 2:06 pm, David Joyner wdjoy...@gmail.com wrote: The impression I got from this conference was that *student* research activity involving Sage is a major plus from the NSF's perspective and more precise quantitative on this might help people get Sage-related grants. That's an

[sage-devel] Re: Clarification of Sage and GPL

2009-05-06 Thread Harald Schilly
On May 6, 8:58 am, Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz wrote: But honestly, I am always astonished by a thread like this and the the wide range of opinions of what the (L)GPL actually allow you to or not. Me too, wow. My opinion is, that if you write a sage script, it's just a script. You can do

[sage-devel] Re: Final 3.4.1 source released

2009-04-27 Thread Harald Schilly
On Apr 27, 4:48 am, evan foss evanf...@gmail.com wrote: Ok thanks, I have been wondering about the performance of netbooks. well, i'm surprised how good it is. you can give me some calculations and i can benchmark it. h --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this

[sage-devel] Re: Final 3.4.1 source released

2009-04-26 Thread Harald Schilly
I just want to add that 3.4.1 compiles on my hp 2140 netbook (3.4 didn't) on a dual core Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270 / model 28 All tests pass, except for a timeout in schemes/elliptic_curves/ ell_rational_field.py h --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group,

[sage-devel] Re: Final 3.4.1 source released

2009-04-26 Thread Harald Schilly
On Apr 26, 5:25 pm, evan foss evanf...@gmail.com wrote: How long did that take to build? don't know, some hours. .. started in the night before going to sleep and in the morning everything was done. i did a parallel make and i have 2 gb of ram. maybe 10 hours, but i think it was faster. h

[sage-devel] latex typeset problem in notebook

2009-04-14 Thread Harald Schilly
Here another report from notebook's report problem link. It's about and error when turning typesetting on and showing unprocessed explicit latex code. http://bit.ly/3mVAs4 Steps to reproduce: 1. turn on typeset 2. past this in a cell and execute it V = span([[1/2, 0, 0], [0, 1, 1]], QQ) W =

[sage-devel] notebook problems /w chrome 2

2009-04-09 Thread Harald Schilly
There is a report http://bit.ly/lwzy6 that Chrome 2 (the beta version of googles browser, currently at version 1) has issues with javascript and css on Sage's notebook page. Someone should look into it and keep an eye on it once Chrome 2 is released. Remember, Chrome has its own V8 javascript

[sage-devel] Sage on Facebook

2009-04-09 Thread Harald Schilly
Hello I just want to make it official that Sage has a fan page on facebook. I'm not sure in what direction this will go, but some viral marketing shouldn't hurt Sage at all! There are already more than 200 fans after less than 2 weeks since it is online. You can post messages about Sage, post

[sage-devel] Re: notebook problems /w chrome 2

2009-04-09 Thread Harald Schilly
On Apr 9, 6:59 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: I noticed another bug at the above url and reported it to trac: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/5726 thx, public bugtracker is clean again ;) h --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group,

[sage-devel] Re: notebook problems /w chrome 2

2009-04-09 Thread Harald Schilly
On Apr 9, 9:28 pm, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: I've installed Chromium on Ubuntu (I think there's even a .deb for it). there is no working native linux build of chrome or chromium. only something very old for wine. the branch for linux development has some sort of test

[sage-devel] Re: mathematica advertising

2009-04-07 Thread Harald Schilly
Hi, I've some experience with google advertising, and my answer is to that questions no! 1. the reason why it comes up for sage math but not for math alone is, simply because a search for math is too unspecific and all others in the pool bidding for this word are selected. indeed, with a very

[sage-devel] Re: Sage's trac dead slow or completely unresponsive

2009-04-05 Thread Harald Schilly
On Apr 5, 4:34 am, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote: the main problem seems to be that the timeline can now be accessed at any point you want and each ticket has a link to jump to the the point of the timeline when it was created. This is quite expensive for the database to construct

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