[sage-devel] Re: Slightly OT: SCC 2008 Braid Groups

2008-04-30 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 7:48 AM, Martin Albrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I don't know if that is of any interest but someone around here might care about the fact that Sage was probably the most mentioned (and cited) mathematics software at the First Conference for Symbolic

[sage-devel] Re: Slightly OT: SCC 2008 Braid Groups

2008-04-30 Thread David Joyner
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Martin Albrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I don't know if that is of any interest but someone around here might care about the fact that Sage was probably the most mentioned (and cited) mathematics software at the First Conference for Symbolic

[sage-devel] Re: Slightly OT: SCC 2008 Braid Groups

2008-04-30 Thread Nathan Dunfield
So, I vote +1 to include it at least as an optional package. Making it a standard part of SAGE should IMHO wait until a solid FreeGroup and FinitelyPresentedGroup (Python) class are created for SAGE. If I had more time I would do this myself. Yeah, it would be great if SAGE had support of

[sage-devel] Re: Slightly OT: SCC 2008 Braid Groups

2008-04-30 Thread root
I don't know if that is of any interest but someone around here might care about the fact that Sage was probably the most mentioned (and cited) mathematics software at the First Conference for Symbolic Computation and Cryptography (SCC 2008) in Beijing. Specifically, these

[sage-devel] Re: Slightly OT: SCC 2008 Braid Groups

2008-04-30 Thread David Joyner
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 2:35 PM, root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if that is of any interest but someone around here might care about the fact that Sage was probably the most mentioned (and cited) mathematics software at the First Conference for Symbolic Computation

[sage-devel] Re: Slightly OT: SCC 2008 Braid Groups

2008-04-30 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 30, 7:43 pm, David Joyner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 2:35 PM, root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,  (disclaimer: I'm the person who set up the Magnus sourceforge site  and I worked for Gilbert Baumslag at City College) Once I saw Magnus mentioned I figured Tim

[sage-devel] Re: Slightly OT: SCC 2008 Braid Groups

2008-04-30 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:13 AM, mabshoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 30, 7:43 pm, David Joyner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 2:35 PM, root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, (disclaimer: I'm the person who set up the Magnus sourceforge site and I worked for

[sage-devel] Re: Slightly OT: SCC 2008 Braid Groups

2008-04-30 Thread David Harvey
On Apr 30, 2008, at 4:50 PM, root wrote: But we've already had this discussion and it is clear that I'm completely out-in-the-weeds, talking-nonsense, and obviously have no idea how REAL-open-source-projects are done. So lets just leave it where it left off before, which is that I've simply

[sage-devel] Re: Slightly OT: SCC 2008 Braid Groups

2008-04-30 Thread root
Wasn't Magnus Tim Daly's main example of a project in trouble development and usage-wise? From this thread: http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/c65e235f83cb2cd1/93b5dc531e50bb1c?lnk=gstq=magnus#93b5dc531e50bb1c Tim wrote: the only person who can properly maintain,

[sage-devel] Re: Slightly OT: SCC 2008 Braid Groups

2008-04-30 Thread mabshoff
Hi Tim, I compiled the last snapshot and it compiled in decent time, i.e. 14 minutes CPU time on sage.math. On the other hand: I couldn't find the python bindings, neither in the sf tarball nor the sf svn/cvs repo. Any pointers? I couldn't find any reference to python in any file: [EMAIL

[sage-devel] Re: Slightly OT: SCC 2008 Braid Groups

2008-04-30 Thread Jason Grout
mabshoff wrote: Hi Tim, I compiled the last snapshot and it compiled in decent time, i.e. 14 minutes CPU time on sage.math. I just compiled the sourceforge source and had to modify backend/glib++/Integer.h and Rational.h. In each of those files, there were two code blocks that defined

[sage-devel] Re: Slightly OT: SCC 2008 Braid Groups

2008-04-30 Thread root
Jason, Please send me a diff-Naur patch of your changes. --Tim --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at

[sage-devel] Re: Slightly OT: SCC 2008 Braid Groups

2008-04-30 Thread root
On the other hand: I couldn't find the python bindings, neither in the sf tarball nor the sf svn/cvs repo. Any pointers? I couldn't find any reference to python in any file: The python bindings were created using SWIG. I'll see if I have a copy (I no longer work at CCNY). Gilbert probably has

[sage-devel] Re: Slightly OT: SCC 2008 Braid Groups

2008-04-30 Thread root
I WANT Sage to live. I want it to succeed. I want it to be the lingua-franca of the business so that we can all post our results in Sage at conferences. I want to be able to drag and drop your publication onto my system and have your code just work, your documentation just connect. I want to be

[sage-devel] Re: Slightly OT: SCC 2008 Braid Groups

2008-04-30 Thread mabshoff
On May 1, 1:06 am, root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tim, I WANT Sage to live. I want it to succeed. I want it to be the lingua-franca of the business so that we can all post our results in Sage at conferences. I want to be able to drag and drop your publication onto my system and have your

[sage-devel] Re: Slightly OT: SCC 2008 Braid Groups

2008-04-30 Thread Jason Grout
root wrote: Jason, Please send me a diff-Naur patch of your changes. --Tim I'm posting here for other people who may be trying to compile it. These, of course, are quick hacks that get it to compile (equivalent to commenting out the offending lines). If there is a quick test or two that you

[sage-devel] Re: Slightly OT: SCC 2008 Braid Groups

2008-04-30 Thread root
Michael, On the other hand: I couldn't find the python bindings, neither in the sf tarball nor the sf svn/cvs repo. Any pointers? I couldn't find any reference to python in any file: I found a copy of it. See http://daly.axiom-developer.org/magnus_python.tgz This will unpack into

[sage-devel] Re: Slightly OT: SCC 2008 Braid Groups

2008-04-30 Thread Jaap Spies
root wrote: I WANT Sage to live. I want it to succeed. I want it to be the lingua-franca of the business so that we can all post our results in Sage at conferences. I want to be able to drag and drop your publication onto my system and have your code just work, your documentation just

[sage-devel] Re: Slightly OT: SCC 2008 Braid Groups

2008-04-30 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Jaap Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: root wrote: I WANT Sage to live. I want it to succeed. I want it to be the lingua-franca of the business so that we can all post our results in Sage at conferences. I want to be able to drag and drop your

[sage-devel] Re: Slightly OT: SCC 2008 Braid Groups

2008-04-30 Thread David Harvey
On Apr 30, 2008, at 7:06 PM, root wrote: I WANT Sage to live. I want it to succeed. I want it to be the lingua-franca of the business so that we can all post our results in Sage at conferences. I want to be able to drag and drop your publication onto my system and have your code just work,

[sage-devel] Re: Slightly OT: SCC 2008 Braid Groups

2008-04-30 Thread Jaap Spies
William Stein wrote: On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Jaap Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: root wrote: I WANT Sage to live. I want it to succeed. I want it to be the lingua-franca of the business so that we can all post our results in Sage at conferences. I want to be able to drag and

[sage-devel] Re: Slightly OT: SCC 2008 Braid Groups

2008-04-30 Thread Martin Albrecht
* Tobias Eibach and Gunnar Völkel: Optimising Gröbner Bases on Bivium (used Sage to implement attack) * Burçin Eröcal: SCrypt: Using Symbolic Computation to Bridge the Gap Between Algebra and Cryptography (module for Sage) * Ralf-Philipp Weinmann and Johannes Buchmann: Distributed