[sage-devel] Re: ams notices opinion column

2007-08-07 Thread iSAGE
2. No real discussion of the costs of the proprietary systems are given. For me, this is really the primary issue. If it was possible to buy a full (non-student) copy of matlab or mathematica for $100 and have freedom to use it on whatever computer I wanted, however I wanted, I might not

[sage-devel] sage 2.7.3 hg repo

2007-08-07 Thread Joel B. Mohler
I just installed a fresh sage 2.7.3 and the hg repository has uncommitted changes: $ hg status ! .hgtags ! bundle ! export ! mercurial-howto.txt ! sage/libs/linbox/matrix_rational_dense_linbox.cpp ! sage/rings/padics/polynomial/__init__.py ! sage/rings/padics/polynomial/all.py Anybody know

[sage-devel] SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?

2007-08-07 Thread William Stein
Hi Sage-Devel, The SAGE downloads during the last week are as follows: Linux Binary 42 OS X Binary 42 Source 91 VMware (= Windows) 57 Total .. 232 The number of new downloads of SAGE per week have been roughly constant during the last 2-3 months. The growth

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?

2007-08-07 Thread Tim Lahey
On 8/7/07, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The number of new downloads of SAGE per week have been roughly constant during the last 2-3 months. The growth of SAGE is definitely not what I hoped for during my talk at SAGE Days 4.Does anybody have any good ideas about how to

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?

2007-08-07 Thread Aaron E. Klemm
A few thoughts: * The public sage notebook really needs to be available by default on port 443. This brings up a lot of issues that have

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?

2007-08-07 Thread Robert Bradshaw
Being optimistic, I would hope things would pick up in the fall compared to the summer (in fact, I think it's lucky to not have a drop--assuming we're starting to aim for the non-research crowd too). I don't have any specific ideas (yet), but I think the back to school timeline is

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?

2007-08-07 Thread Bill Page
As technically hard as it might be, I think having a native Windows version of Sage - even if it includes only a subset of the standard packages - would likely be a big factor in attracting more users. In my experience with Axiom, potential Windows users out number Linux users by a large number

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?

2007-08-07 Thread Alec Mihailovs
From: Bill Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] As technically hard as it might be, I think having a native Windows version of Sage - even if it includes only a subset of the standard packages - would likely be a big factor in attracting more users. Being a Windows user, I can't agree less. Also, the

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?

2007-08-07 Thread Chris Chiasson
Pick an organization or department that uses Mathematica or Maple or MATLAB. Find out what they use it for. Put the same capabilities into SAGE. Give SAGE to them, possibly with a turnkey demonstration. Rinse and repeat?? On Aug 7, 5:22 pm, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Sage-Devel,

[sage-devel] Reduce package for Sage

2007-08-07 Thread Bill Page
William, Some months ago I promised to look into the issue of creating a Reduce package for Sage (as usual: as and when time permits :). While at the ISSAC conference where Sage was conspicuous by it's complete absence! :-(, I had a brief meeting with Winfried Neun [1] from ZIB [2] - one of main

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?

2007-08-07 Thread Bill Page
On 8/7/07, Alec Mihailovs wrote: From: Bill Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] As technically hard as it might be, I think having a native Windows version of Sage - even if it includes only a subset of the standard packages - would likely be a big factor in attracting more users. Being a Windows

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?

2007-08-07 Thread Alec Mihailovs
From: Bill Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] Being a Windows user, I can't agree less. ??? In my reading of English this sounds like you strongly disagree. :-( Yes, my English is not that great. Certainly I meant strongly agree :-) I am not sure if this is necessary but apparently Python can be built

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?

2007-08-07 Thread mabshoff
On Aug 8, 4:25 am, Alec Mihailovs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bill Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] Being a Windows user, I can't agree less. ??? In my reading of English this sounds like you strongly disagree. :-( Yes, my English is not that great. Certainly I meant strongly agree :-) I

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?

2007-08-07 Thread Alec Mihailovs
From: mabshoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] The compartmentilazation of SAGE has been suggested many times before, but as William has stated many times: This makes testing and debugging infinitely more diffcult. It is also extreme likely that if you use even minor different versions of certain

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE download stats -- how to increase SAGE usage?

2007-08-07 Thread mabshoff
On Aug 8, 5:31 am, Alec Mihailovs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: mabshoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] The compartmentilazation of SAGE has been suggested many times before, but as William has stated many times: This makes testing and debugging infinitely more diffcult. It is also extreme likely