[sage-devel] Re: [Maxima] Maxima stats huge numbers of files at startup?

2009-12-15 Thread William Stein
Hi, This email is a followup about 1. maxima opens the root directory / and stats each file found there. Then it does the same thing for the /u (home) directory... Thanks to everybody that responded to my query below. The MAXIMA-SHAREDIR variable looks fine according to the output of maxima

Re: [sage-devel] Please check if this computes seconds since Epoch

2009-12-15 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
John Cremona wrote: I must admit I'm puzzled it needed the .sh on the end. Are you sure you had the execute permission on the version without the .sh ? Yes, definitely. (If not, even ./unixtime.sh would have failed.) Fair enough. I don't know much about dash, but I know if you proceed

[sage-devel] Linking libraries - do we need a completely different approach ?

2009-12-15 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I've noticed on several occasions people reporting issues when Sage includes a library which the system has. This causes conflicts with the linker, and can result in messages which sometimes include: (possible multiple inclusion of the same file) Readline is one such example, but is by no

[sage-devel] Re: tutorial on Python functional programming for mathematicians

2009-12-15 Thread Harald Schilly
On Dec 15, 4:34 am, mhampton hampto...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for pointing that out.  I was looking for svd, lower-case, and missed it. actually, me too. Is there a reason why it is uppercase? I'm for renaming it to lowercase and adding an uppercase synonym for backwards compatibility. h --

[sage-devel] Re: tutorial on Python functional programming for mathematicians

2009-12-15 Thread Jason Grout
Harald Schilly wrote: On Dec 15, 4:34 am, mhampton hampto...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for pointing that out. I was looking for svd, lower-case, and missed it. actually, me too. Is there a reason why it is uppercase? I'm for renaming it to lowercase and adding an uppercase synonym for

[sage-devel] Re: [Maxima] Maxima stats huge numbers of files at startup?

2009-12-15 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 4:41 AM, Raymond Toy toy.raym...@gmail.com wrote: William Stein wrote: Hi, This email is a followup about  1. maxima opens the root directory / and stats each file found there. Then it does the same thing for the /u (home) directory... This is not right.  Maxima

[sage-devel] Fwd: [cython-users] Scipy09 Proceedings

2009-12-15 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi folks, The SciPy 2009 proceedings [1] contain four papers that cite Sage. These are: (1) Stefan Behnel, Robert W. Bradshaw, and Dag Sverre Seljebotn. Cython Tutorial. In Gaël Varoquaux, Stéfan van der Walt, and K. Jarrod Millman (ed.). SciPy 2009: Proceedings of the 8th Python in Science

Re: [sage-devel] Linking libraries - do we need a completely different approach ?

2009-12-15 Thread Florent Hivert
Hi there, On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 01:44:50PM +, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: I've noticed on several occasions people reporting issues when Sage includes a library which the system has. This causes conflicts with the linker, and can result in messages which sometimes include:

Re: [sage-devel] Fwd: [cython-users] Scipy09 Proceedings

2009-12-15 Thread Florent Hivert
Hi there, On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 04:05:49AM +1100, Minh Nguyen wrote: Hi folks, The SciPy 2009 proceedings [1] contain four papers that cite Sage. These are: [2] http://www.sagemath.org/library-publications.html http://arxiv.org/abs/0912.2212 I don't know who's in charge but

Re: [sage-devel] Fwd: [cython-users] Scipy09 Proceedings

2009-12-15 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Florent, On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 4:19 AM, Florent Hivert florent.hiv...@univ-rouen.fr wrote: SNIP I don't know who's in charge but you can also add You could email sage-devel or the website maintainers [1]. http://arxiv.org/abs/0912.2212 submitted in an extended abstract form to the

[sage-devel] input: and output: in docstrings

2009-12-15 Thread William Stein
Hi, It has been brought to my attention that many docstrings in Sage do not explicitly and clearly list their input and output in INPUT: and OUTPUT: blocks. There are only 2711 OUTPUT blocks and 4371 INPUT blocks in sage-4.3: wst...@sage:~/build/sage-4.3.rc0$ ./sage -grep output: |wc -l

[sage-devel] graph theory tickets

2009-12-15 Thread Robert Miller
Hello, The splitup of graph.py, the switch to c_graphs as default, and the resulting awesomeness are impending! I have just gone through all the graph theory tickets needing review this morning. There is one left which I don't feel qualified to review, namely the interactive graph editor #1321.

[sage-devel] Re: [Maxima] Maxima stats huge numbers of files at startup?

2009-12-15 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Raymond Toy toy.raym...@gmail.com wrote: William Stein wrote: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 4:41 AM, Raymond Toy toy.raym...@gmail.com wrote: We're using ecl.  You can get the exact same setup by just installing sage-4.2.1. Thanks, but no, I don't really want to

[sage-devel] Re: [Maxima] Maxima stats huge numbers of files at startup?

2009-12-15 Thread Robert Dodier
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:37 AM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: (%i1) :lisp *maxima-sharedir* /home/wstein/build/sage/local/share/maxima/5.19.1/share (%i1) :lisp (directory (pathname (concatenate 'string *maxima-sharedir* /)))

[sage-devel] Re: [Maxima] Maxima stats huge numbers of files at startup?

2009-12-15 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Robert Dodier robert.dod...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:37 AM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: (%i1) :lisp *maxima-sharedir* /home/wstein/build/sage/local/share/maxima/5.19.1/share (%i1) :lisp (directory (pathname (concatenate 'string

[sage-devel] Re: [Maxima] Maxima stats huge numbers of files at startup?

2009-12-15 Thread Robert Dodier
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:42 AM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: (affine algebra algebra/charsets algebra/solver calculus colnew colnew/lisp : : :  orthopoly physics simplification sym tensor trigonometry utils vector) Well, that looks right. I don't see any indication that Maxima

[sage-devel] Re: input: and output: in docstrings

2009-12-15 Thread John H Palmieri
On Dec 15, 10:16 am, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, It has been brought to my attention that many docstrings in Sage do not explicitly and clearly list their input and output in INPUT: and OUTPUT: blocks.   There are only 2711 OUTPUT blocks and 4371 INPUT blocks in sage-4.3:    

[sage-devel] Re: graph theory tickets

2009-12-15 Thread kcrisman
Hi Robert (and Nathann), I won't have time to do the fix Nathann C. recommended in http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6522 (which isn't so much a fix as using new functionality) for changing the copy to __copy__ in graphs until at least Thursday. But presumably it would be good to merge

[sage-devel] Browser math rendering

2009-12-15 Thread cool-RR
Guys, have you heard about this? http://www.mathjax.com Ram. -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at

[sage-devel] Re: Browser math rendering

2009-12-15 Thread Jason Grout
cool-RR wrote: Guys, have you heard about this? http://www.mathjax.com Yes, isn't it exciting?! I can't wait for it. See this post from this morning: http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/a8518afd8922ddc0 Thanks, Jason -- To post to this group, send an email

[sage-devel] Re: Linking libraries - do we need a completely different approach ?

2009-12-15 Thread Georg S. Weber
Hmm, I don't quite get the point of your message. Installing the dynamic library somewhere else and link it in by ... adding said library to the users LD_LIBRARY_PATH ... is pretty much exactly the way things are designed and supposed to work (and actually do work to a large extent) in Sage. I

[sage-devel] Re: Browser math rendering

2009-12-15 Thread cool-RR
Great. Sorry for double-posting, apparently the search feature is broken in Google Groups. Also, I dream that it will be possible to also *type* math like that in the browser, and have it become pretty in real-time. But this is impressive right now as it is. Ram. On Dec 16, 12:42 am, Jason

[sage-devel] Re: Browser math rendering

2009-12-15 Thread Jason Grout
cool-RR wrote: Great. Sorry for double-posting, apparently the search feature is broken in Google Groups. Also, I dream that it will be possible to also *type* math like that in the browser, and have it become pretty in real-time. But this is impressive right now as it is. Like this?

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Linking libraries - do we need a completely different approach ?

2009-12-15 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Georg S. Weber wrote: Hmm, I don't quite get the point of your message. Sorry, I was trying to get some discussion, and hopefully understanding, of why these issues arise, with a hope to trying to fix them. It's clear the present situation has 'issues' and to my knowledge, nobody has a

Re: [sage-devel] Linking libraries - do we need a completely different approach ?

2009-12-15 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Florent Hivert wrote: Hi there, On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 01:44:50PM +, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: I've noticed on several occasions people reporting issues when Sage includes a library which the system has. This causes conflicts with the linker, and can result in messages which

[sage-devel] Re: Linking libraries - do we need a completely different approach ?

2009-12-15 Thread Jason Grout
Dr. David Kirkby wrote: Georg S. Weber wrote: Hmm, I don't quite get the point of your message. Sorry, I was trying to get some discussion, and hopefully understanding, of why these issues arise, with a hope to trying to fix them. It's clear the present situation has 'issues' and

Re: [sage-devel] Re: input: and output: in docstrings

2009-12-15 Thread Mike Hansen
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 2:46 AM, John H Palmieri jhpalmier...@gmail.com wrote: You can also use Sphinx/reST markup for this, described in the same place.  Here is an example of how that looks: http://sagemath.org/doc/reference/sage/homology/