Edwin Blink wrote:
what's with the track header length?
The overall file has a 14 byte header. After that there must be at
sides*tracks track headers (each 7 bytes) following the file header, and
following each track header are sector headers (each 7 bytes) for each
sector in the track. The
On Nov 25, 2004, at 3:10 pm, Simon Owen wrote:
I added basic FDI support to SimCoupe last night,
Cool!
I've yet to
create any SAM images in the format, working with some downloaded
sample
images instead.
I assume there are some standard PC programs already written which will
transfer
My current favourite to replace SDF is the Russian FDI format, as used by
some Spectrum emulators. Like SDF it's relatively high-level, and covers
all the usual custom formatting tricks that are required for protected SAM
titles. Details can be found here:
Edwin Blink wrote:
Interesting Format. But when going through all the trouble of
changing to a new disk image format (converting to FDI) its
still pretty limited.
There's no conversion needed, as existing SAM software can remain as DSK
images. FDI images are only needed for non-standard
Andrew Collier wrote:
I assume there are some standard PC programs already written
which will transfer floppy disks to and from this format?
I've found a DOS MAKEFDI utility, though I've yet to try it out properly
(will do when I get home). The docs are in Russian but the usage text from
the
still have very small images by only storing the sectors used by the files
on the disk, with blank tracks requiring only the 7-byte header.
OK had a better look at the info.
At a quick
guess, a fairly extreme 5 track single sided disk would use: 14 + 5*(7 +
10*(7+512)) bytes, which is about
Blink
Sent: 26 November 2004 13:14
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: Re: SAM Software Archive
still have very small images by only storing the sectors used by the files
on the disk, with blank tracks requiring only the 7-byte header.
OK had a better look at the info.
At a quick
guess, a fairly
Earlier I wrote:
I've found a DOS MAKEFDI utility, though I've yet to try it
out properly (will do when I get home).
I've not had any success with MAKEFDI version 1.2 beta, which is dated 2002.
I tried under FreeDOS beta 9, MS-DOS 6.22, and a Windows 98 SE boot disk -
the disk did spin up but
.
Adrian
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Geoff Winkless
Sent: 24 November 2004 10:56
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: RE: SAM Software Archive
Gavin Smith wrote:
Quoting Geoff Winkless [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
What sort of bandwidth do people
On Nov 24, 2004, at 9:30 am, Gavin Smith wrote:
Use gzip rather than zip, then SimCoupe can load them directly.
What does anyone else think about this?
I would say dsk.gz is never less convenient that dsk.zip, and in may
situations is completely transparent.
Well, SimCoupe's already got
Quoting Andrew Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
- .dsk is a very simple format, it will describe only unprotected disks
but is well understood and there are many programs which can read/save
into this format.
- .dsk can be compressed as dsk.gz, which then can be used in almost as
many
On Thu, 2004-11-25 at 09:20, Gavin Smith wrote:
Quoting Andrew Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
- current versions of SimCoupe are able to read a format .sdf, this was
designed by Simon Owen for use in SimCoupe and can describe all Sam
disks. However there is no support for it outside of
- current versions of SimCoupe are able to read a format .sdf, this was
designed by Simon Owen for use in SimCoupe and can describe all Sam
disks. However there is no support for it outside of SimCoupe
An important consideration for the archive is to make sure it's easy for
owners
Gavin Smith wrote:
By the way, I still plan to get the domain sorted tomorrow evening so
if anyone has an opinion on what domain they'd like us to use, shout
out today or tomorrow - it looks like samcoupe.org is in the lead at
the moment.
?
I vehemently believe this to be the wrong
Geoff Winkless wrote:
worldofsam.org would still be my preferred option
That's my favourite too - it does seem like we're doing a SAM version of
worldofspectrum.org after all.
I'd also be happy with samarchive.org or similar - in fact, anything
_except_ samcoupe.org :)
Agreed. samcoupe.org
Quoting Geoff Winkless [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Gavin Smith wrote:
By the way, I still plan to get the domain sorted tomorrow evening so
if anyone has an opinion on what domain they'd like us to use, shout
out today or tomorrow - it looks like samcoupe.org is in the lead at
the moment.
?
Just my thoughts on the Sam Archive site project:
1)It'd be nice to have a section dedicated to all you guys, names, photos, a brief paragraph or two regarding your involvement in the Sam scene etc...
2)An 'online' music player (maybe something in Flash) that can play Sam audio files
Gavin Smith wrote:
I know of a few people with a CD drive connected - Wolfgang, you have
this setup don't you? I haven't tried it, but from what I understand,
it's possible to bung a CD containing .dsks into a drive connected to
a SAM - it's then possible to write the .dsk to an Atom
Quoting Wolfgang Haller [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
To the name voting: First I prefered samcommunity.org, but a community
is a connection of persons, who have ALL the same interest. I can´t see
this community.
So I prefer worldofsam.org as it comes nearest to the things that are
planned.
Perhaps
Quoting Andy Monk [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Just my thoughts on the Sam Archive site project:
1) It'd be nice to have a section dedicated to all you guys, names,
photos, a brief paragraph or two regarding your involvement in the Sam
scene etc...
2) An 'online' music player (maybe
: Gavin Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: RE: SAM Software Archive
Send reply to:sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Quoting Geoff Winkless [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Gavin Smith wrote:
By the way, I still plan to get the domain
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Please respond to sam-users
To:sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
cc:
Subject:RE: SAM Software Archive
Quoting Andy Monk [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Just my thoughts on the Sam Archive site project:
1) It'd be nice to have a section
On Thu, 2004-11-25 at 12:19, Gavin Smith wrote:
If possible, though, I'd like us to use one format and one method of
compression. Would it therefore be easier to make everything .sdf in the first
place and work on tools to work with these files?
I think this depends on:
a) any long term
Andrew Collier wrote:
For protected disks, I think the main advantage of using a
standard disk image format over sdf would be the existance of
other tools to do the disk transfers.
SDF was a convenient solution at the time, but was never really designed to
be a permanent format (the lack of
http://www.romnation.net/srv/roms/samcoupe.html
If you check the link above.. There's a site with lots of roms
downloadable..
Is it legal?
ray
On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 14:29:02 - Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you check the link above.. There's a site with lots of roms
downloadable..
They are not ROMs, but rather disk images.
Is it legal?
Most are. Some are not. The legal ones are also at ftp.nvg.ntnu.no
in the GoodSAMC folder.
On Thu, 2004-11-25 at 14:29, Ray wrote:
If you check the link above..
Next time, please add a NOT WORK SAFE! warning before posting a link
to a site with porn banner ads!
There's a site with lots of roms
downloadable..
Is it legal?
Probably a GOODSAMC dump, of images trawled from
I think the site is a great idea and my vote also goes to worldofsam.org
Ian
- Original Message -
From: Simon Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 1:46 PM
Subject: RE: SAM Software Archive
Geoff Winkless wrote:
worldofsam.org would
On Nov 23, 2004, at 10:41 pm, Simon Owen wrote:
Gavin Smith wrote:
(1) So that warez style GoodSAMC collections are not needed
Do you have any quality control plans? GoodSAMC seemed to hoover up
anything and everything, [...]
- the new SAM archive will have to be careful not to fall into
On Nov 23, 2004, at 9:02 pm, Andy Chandler wrote:
It will be nice to have as a kind of museum of all things SAM.
Something semi-official, that both old-hands and new faces can
go. On that note, I put my vote forwards for the samcoupe.org
address.
That, or (since it's
Sounds great Gavin,
I'm voting for
samcoupe.org
Or maybe SamCoupeWorld.org ? ;-)
Frans
Subject: Re: SAM Software Archive
Sounds great Gavin,
I'm voting for
samcoupe.org
Or maybe SamCoupeWorld.org ? ;-)
Frans
--- Gavin Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been thinking a lot about this software archive
idea we've been talking
about, so thought I'd write up a little summary of
what my thoughts are.
Proposal:
A World Of Spectrum style semi-official archive for
SAM software, housed on the
web
A World Of Spectrum style semi-official archive for SAM
software, housed on the
web and built by the members of sam-users.
Bang on.
BTW another vote here for samcoupe.org
Dan.
This, on the other hand, is probably going to be watched eagle-eyed by
people who were actually around at the time and have some idea what
they're talking about. Provided there's some feedback mechanism (and
it's okay to have a single point of contact now, because all the
software is
Quoting Johnna [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Perhaps we could divide the site into:
Official games releases
Official utils releases
Official disk mag releases
PD Single program files (eg. Not disks with Tetris AND something else on,
just Tetris on it's own?)
Warez collections (eg. Speccy 128
Dan Doore wrote:
A World Of Spectrum style semi-official archive for SAM software,
housed on the web and built by the members of sam-users.
Bang on.
BTW another vote here for samcoupe.org
While I agree in principle that samcoupe.org would be the best for the site
I think that as Colin has
Quoting Geoff Winkless [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Dan Doore wrote:
A World Of Spectrum style semi-official archive for SAM software,
housed on the web and built by the members of sam-users.
Bang on.
BTW another vote here for samcoupe.org
While I agree in principle that samcoupe.org
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 00:04:50 - Johnna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
PD Single program files (eg. Not disks with Tetris AND something else on,
just Tetris on it's own?)
Possibly grouping this further into
* PD Demos
* PD Games
And others:
Source code
Documentation
-Frode
--
^ Frode
Geoff Winkless wrote:
While I agree in principle that samcoupe.org would be the best for the
site
I think that as Colin has samcoupe.com it will serve to confuse.
I would have to agree, i've had the samcoupe.com domain for over a year,
although time has been lacking to fully impliment the site
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:08:50 + Gavin Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I had a long think about hosting and our options and ways of doing it on the
cheap but in the end I thought it would be nice to spend a fiver a month and
get our own meaty bandwidth etc and not worry about taking
Gavin Smith wrote:
A three month period has been decided upon as a reasonable length of time
to
track down as many authors/copyright holders as possible - between us all,
we
should be able to cover the majority of the SAM back catalogue.
Good to see you have adopted my suggestion there, which
Gavin Smith wrote:
Quoting Geoff Winkless [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
What sort of bandwidth do people think it would use? I already have
a shared (with a few old uni mates) linux host (on which I have root
access) and would be happy to host it if we're expecting a gig or so
downloads a month - that
The only problem I have with services like catalyst2 (the site you
mentioned) is that you don't have full control: it's a hosted service, so
you have the restrictions of what you can do with it. I have full ssh root
access so if (eg) you want to run some bizarre forum software you don't have
Gavin,
I personally really like your proposals. There was a lot of
software that was either PD or the rights have been freely
given, yet the items are strewn across the internet or hidden
away in disk boxes somewhere, which seems a real shame.
On the flip-side,
Gavin Smith wrote:
(1) So that warez style GoodSAMC collections are not needed
Do you have any quality control plans? GoodSAMC seemed to hoover up
anything and everything, which included data disks and other program disks
missing DOS. Some of them contain potentially valuable stuff (Chris
Anyway, just thought I'd let you know that it looks like we'll soon
have a World Of Spectrum type site dedicated to the SAM and one that
respects author's rights as far as humanly possible too.
Great. Is there also going to be a blacklist of stuff that's not avialable
to uphold the owners
On 22 Nov 2004, at 1:04 pm, Edwin Blink wrote:
Anyway, just thought I'd let you know that it looks like we'll soon
have a World Of Spectrum type site dedicated to the SAM and one that
respects author's rights as far as humanly possible too.
Great. Is there also going to be a blacklist of
Gavin Smith wrote:
Definitely, although I'd like to sort of integrate the stuff into the
archive in terms of listing it with details such as author name,
publisher, year and also screenshots - where there would normally be a
download link, it will just say something like Distribution Currently
Gavin Smith wrote:
Definitely, although I'd like to sort of integrate the stuff into the
archive in terms of listing it with details such as author name,
publisher, year and also screenshots - where there would normally be a
download link, it will just say something like Distribution
On 22 Nov 2004, at 1:44 pm, Geoff Winkless wrote:
Gavin Smith wrote:
Definitely, although I'd like to sort of integrate the stuff into the
archive in terms of listing it with details such as author name,
publisher, year and also screenshots - where there would normally be a
download link, it
Definitely, although I'd like to sort of integrate the stuff into the
archive in terms of listing it with details such as author name,
publisher, year and also screenshots - where there would normally be a
download link, it will just say something like Distribution Currently
Denied.
Geoff Winkless wrote:
Something like the author has requested that this work is
not distributed and put some contact details for further info.
I think Gavin used Distribution denied because it's how World Of Spectrum
currently phrases it. I do agree it would be better to use something less
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