I agree that a PC Basic, based on SAM Basic, which is of
coursed based on Spectrum Basic, would be a nice idea - the big
question is /who could write it?/ Personally, just getting a few people
together to help sort out SAM's ROM and DOS is a hard enough
task -it seems that there are
'nothing like a real SAM' - yeah, nothing like all the shit you face
if your drive goes down... a PC drive = about a tenner.. How much for
a SAM drive, eh? eh? Phew.. I seem to be blowing a gasket or
something.. better calm down, eh? :-)
Bye,
Dave
Just out of interest, the most common form of
From: Robert van der Veeke
Lets say that Stonehenge moves faster than the Samson :)
Probably because of the monolithic design.
Anyone noticed how they hid the prototype in the woods?
Simon
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So. Why did they have two controllers then? There must have been a
reason.
Bill.
Erm, nope, nothing sensible i believe, not that i know of, but it did
fill the internal drive cases !, enter BB.
Uhh... they were very cheap controllers so adding one to each drive
meant you could detect
Well, folks, I've started working on a port of SIM Coupe to Windows 95.
As far as I can see, there may be some scope for some more optimisation
on the graphics side; giving the system a memory and a bit of
intelligence so that mode switching is faster, things like that.
Also, the main reason
Ideas? Views?
Only that you can bear my children if I can run SimCoupe on NT 4.0
:-)
I'll see what I can do ;)
Sound might be DirectSound only though -- I've not decided yet. You'll
be able to disable it though :)
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Does this mean my power supply had been going wrong for at least the
past
year? What could a dodgy 12V line have done to the colours anyway? Why
was
it working fine with a TV? I mean, WHY?
Oh well, that just leaves me with problems which *are* inherent
incompatibilities, ie blurring of adjacent
Oh and BTW has Cookie got to Seatle yet? :)
Not yet - but in two or three weeks, the great migration west starts.
I only hope poor Sarah can keep up with the pace.
(Sarah being my car... poor thing, got her in May, have 6300 miles on
her already)
Simon
Y hooo!
Anyone alive?
*dies loudly*
Simon
;)
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| Is there any operating system that supports hard disk?
HDOS is good, but could be better, and because of the lack of
co-operation
from
people on this list there seems little hope of any advance in the near
future.
Sorry, SAMSBOSS, but it's not OUR problem. We're not paid to write YOUR
I saw SAMDOS, MasterDOS and PRODOS. Are there more of them?
BDos, can be used with or without a Atom-interface and Harddisk and is
freeware.
QDOS doesn't support the hard-disk, but it cleans up your system and
reports system status when you boot it. Handy if you need to switch
from MasterDOS to
also:
if anyone is seriously (as in, actually) considering porting simcoupe
to
native win32 code then i will be HAPPY (read: willing, and (possibly)
able) to help. especially doing the bits that no-one else would
probably
want to do (eg, sound)
Well, I've started on it - initially in MFC, but I
Apart from an answer from Ian and David W ... I think everyone else is
dead?
*corpses*
Simon ;)
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What do you want to do with Spectrum programs that test keyboard
with 0 in high byte?
Hi byte is 0 mostly for a PRESS 'ANY KEY' test.
I would map row SPACE SS M N B as the first row to scan.
So one of these keys can be pressed in a ANY KEY situation.
Hmmm... the way Martin and I came up for
In theory, I'd expect it could be done... at the end of the day it's
really down
to understanding how the Zip actually works. But that's the problem.
Iomega are
hardly forthcoming with techy details.
Edwin'll be better placed technically for this ;)
The internal IDE ones will work -- after all,
Help's having people on the inside ;)
Wel... actually, you can get them even if you don't work for MS --
it's all downloadable from the MSDN website :)
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I've heard it's going to be called the ZX2000.
Basically, it's going to be a nice fast portable computer (to fight
against
other expensive ones), NON-IBM like, NON MS Windows, with his
revolutionary
battery technology.
Oh Goody (says Simon, typing from within the Microsoft library). ;)
Who else is going to the SAM/Spectrum meeting in Bunnik tommorow ?
I'm going defenitely !
Alas, a bit too far for me to make it :)
Simon
ps. Regarding the sound stuff for the Windows port of SIM Coupe -- Dave,
can you send me the info for your interface at [EMAIL PROTECTED],
as in all my
Just to confirm.
The glos show is week saturday (17th)
Doors open 10ish?
Pub Lunch noon-ish
Is there a discussion in the afternoon to encourage us back from the
pub?
I should be able to put in an appearance now, though probably not all
day
(too many things to do that weekend) so am
Is there anyone else who made it as a 'professional' games programmer?
I have. :)
Not me... I traded it all in for the infamy* of working for Microsoft.
Mind you, it's fun :)
Current project: Controls for VJ++
Simon
*You know, as in infamy! infamy! They've all got it infamy!
Game Gear - Yogi Bear , Zoop
Psx - Zoop , Sentinel Returns , Assault (LATEST)
Doing N64 and DREAMCAST at moo
See if you can get some kind of major bug in the WinCE subsystem, so
that you can get a free trip to Seattle :)
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I really wonder how it does stand with regards to him? Technically, as
the SAM version is only a patched Speccy one, it could be okay ... but
it is a funny position.
Nah - it's being sold for profit; this is the kind of thing that David
Braben would get stroppy about.
Also, Bob said:
Full
This is actually illegal; the purchaser of the SAM version must own
the
Amstrad version - that is, they must receive the magnetic media on
which
the game was originally distributed - for the license to use the
software to be assigned to them. Destroying the media just means that
you can
Just to start the traditional thread
Who's going to Quedgeley on Saturday? Is anybody starting out from the
south-east of England?
I probably couldn't arrive much earlier than lunchtime, if I went by
train.
That's after leaving Cambridge at 7.45 and hanging about in London for
an
hour...
Well you said it about being lazy didn't you?
From what I understand, material was sent to Darren which wasn't even
forwarded to George - and this obviously could have gone in the issue.
So, as usual, you complain but are busy sitting doing fuck all.
No wonder the SAM is dying on it's feet.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:40:33 +0100
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Hello Malcolm,
Not quite the right
And today, in a shock reversal on SAM Users, the modesty index was down,
and egos were up, though analysts were saying that they were possible
over inflated, and would go down again later.
;)
Simon
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And today, in a shock reversal on SAM Users, the modesty index was
down,
and egos were up, though analysts were saying that they were possible
over inflated, and would go down again later.
;)
Simon
If you mean I'm on the warpath, and am fed up with detractors (who
admittedly have
Simon Cooke wrote:
Ummm... no, actually... I was talking about someone having the
username
Samsgod :)
Simon
Er, yeah, but I think Samsgod was taking the piss out of a certain
other
person, or just SAM people with inflated egos, in general :)
I know. I saw an opening for a joke and went
Do you actually have copyright to use this sense of humour? People
with proper businesses to run have been trading on it for some time
(whether they understand it or not) - better not distribute it or you
could find yourself in court.
Monopolies Mergers commission?
Nah... We indeed have a
I use it to taunt and rile people whilst I laugh merrily and rub myself
with bacon-grease. Yourself?
I just do the bacon-grease bit...
Simon
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I do not recall ever going to an All Formats fair in Haydock...
Perhaps it was Simon Cooke.
Or possibly Ian Slavin. Apart from the glasses, we both had a very
similar line in hair and leather jackets.
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I use it to taunt and rile people whilst I laugh merrily and rub
myself with bacon-grease. Yourself?
I just do the bacon-grease bit...
Simon
You always told me you preferred the chocolate mousse sob I feel so
betrayed
Well, I wasn't going to tell them about *that* was I? In a public
Simon's apparently working on something called Statues of Ice ...
;)
Oh, look, someone's just come running past shouting something about the
Ides of March.
Oh, look, someone's just come running past with a knife and stabbed me
in the back!
My god! I know who it was!
;)
Si
Talking of the DOS, we've got both the ROMs and MASTERDOS source
files on the ftp site... but not SAMDOS2. Any reason why not?
Because the source for that is copyright to Bruce Gordon, I believe...
and not only that, but all my disks are back in the UK...
Si
(I had the ROM and MasterDOS source
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 19:07:19 + (GMT)
From: Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:Sam Users Mailing List sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: SamDOS copyright.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Who owns the SamDOS copyright, and is there permission to freely
distribute it?
Given that in the good old days
== Microsoft Auto-Assimilation Responder ==
Move along please. Nothing to see here.
===
Dave is always blowing his computer up! What on earth does he
keep doing to it
Running Windows ?
:)
Lee.
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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 16:24:54 EST
To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Missing disk error.
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In a message dated 30/11/98 10:56:56, you write:
.
MR BRENCHLEY?!? You reading this? What can I do to
replace my disk drive if my drive is
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Missing disk error.
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In a message dated 30/11/98 10:17:22, you write:
)
Turn it off and leave it to sulk for a few minutes then try it :)
Seriously it's probably the
From: David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: More Sim Coupe probs...
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 17:08:58 -
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Okay, now Bill's back with a very sensible question regarding Sim Coupe
=
... here's=20
another
Is there
The rights to the SAM 'robot' are owned jointly by Robin Evans, Alan
Miles and
myself.
Speaking of whom, any idea how to contact Alan these days?
Si
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From: Andrew Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Looked into it yet Mr Bob?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 8:19 am + 11/12/98, Dan Doore wrote:
Sam-users emails always come From: whoever posted the message.
Depends what
So no pirated images on Sim-Coupe! Hmmm.
Well I guess your right, I have not seen any myself, but the real SAM
has
pirated software all over the place, I know because it affects myself
and
programmers.
One thing about the new Digital Reality game `DEFENDER` it will not
work on
Sim-Coupe, thus
Surely the copyright to the Rom belongs to Dr Andy Wright?
Yup - and he has given permission for it to be distributed.
And as for the ASIC - which of course must be emulated in Sim Coupe - I
was
under the impression this belonged to Bruce Gordon?
Doesn't apply; when we reverse engineered it,
Fairymuff re the copyright... although if that's the case, why does the
Rom
say (c) MGT/WestCoast etc... and not Patent?
Because the ROM is a bit of a grey area - the contents of the ROM (the
code) is copyrighted; it's treated as a language/artistic work.
The design of the ROM chip itself is
I don't know if I've said this yet, but if I haven't...
... Merry Christmas one and all from rainy/sleety/snowy/cold Seattle.
Just tried to go get a Chicken from the shops (well, I'd decided not to
do Christmas this year, and then decided against it).
Would you BELIEVE IT? 10pm on Christmas
At 6:38 pm + 12/1/99, Malcolm Mackenzie wrote:
I was asked in one mailing about `KABOOM!` and if I had any idea when
if
ever it would be released.
I answered by saying that I had spoken to wayne Coles, he told me that
as
soon as he had finished the project he was working on he would finish
Regarding Kaboom Simon Cooke wrote:-
If it's just the disk protection that's needed, couldn't Chris and I
just bang together a revamped version of the Lemmings/Parallax
protection, and then it could be distributed with E-Copy which a few
publishers have
At 9:07 pm + 14/1/99, Simon Cooke wrote:
Also, it doesn't matter *WHAT* protection you put on it, E-Copy will
copy it. There's NO foolproof way to stop someone from copying it.
Otherwise, the computer wouldn't be able to read it, would it?
Precisely true. And of all the sam-users capable
Okay folks, here goes:
The color-highlighting editor and most of the parsing stuff is done.
It's slightly flickery, but on a Gateway G6-200, the performance is
respectable (it's written in WFC and Java, folks).
Sorry, I've missed a lot of this conversation I think. What exactly is
this?
At 9:37 pm + 18/1/99, Simon Cooke wrote:
Oh, and it's Windows
only.
(Sorry Andrew)
Do you know - I once heard a scurrilous rumour that Java was
cross-platform...
Andrew
I think I remember hearing that rumour too Andrew - of course Bill
Gates
and his evil followers (that includes
Oh yeah... bit more info. With part 1 of the SAM ROM source loaded into
it (401K of data, 14681 lines), it's quite happy, and still keeps its
speed nicely up (in fact, I can't see a difference; you would on a 486
though, I'm betting).
Memory footprint: 10Mb, including the system libraries. As
On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Simon Cooke wrote:
multiply that by a factor of 2 because each line's small... so make
that
1602K.
If people complain about performance, I may fix it - if not, there's
no
I don't care about that (lots of memory free, even under Windows). The
fact that I can't just use
But this steamrollering of Java is something which does bug me quite a
bit.
When it gets to the point when programmers think absolutely nothing of
writing single platform code, then the entire point of Java, its raison
d'etre, is totally nullified. Keeping the name Java implies some
attempt at
If you hate Microsoft, and all things Microsoft, and the way I code so
much, then go write your own fucking assembler.
As of now, this project is terminated.
Simon
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I'm just sick of being looked at like I've got horns or something.
Religious debates. I hate them.
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As it's soon to be SAM's tenth birthday, would anyone be interested
in a
special SAM lapel badge/tie or something similar?
Sexist or what? What would I want with a tie?
(cough) Dunno if this still applies these days, but back when I was a
lad
The MIDI-In interrupt is useful. :)
But, with the MIDI-Out interrupt, I agree. In fact, depending
on your interpretation of the Tech Manual, MIDI Out doesn't
generate and INT signal...(?)
Umm... actually, how you should probably do it is this:
Assuming that you control all interrupts, etc:
At
The point is that (a) the MIDI OUT interrupt is quite difficult to
catch
if there are line and frame interrupts going on as well because you
coul
easily miss one while the interrupts are disabled; and (b) you don't
need
that flag because in(248) already contains one (bit 1).
imc
Thanks
Indeed, the 1377 is just a D-to-A converter. There is even a version of
the
chip that does not need the 12v.
Well, that's probably because it has an electron pump in there to
generate the 12V internally.
SCART only machines are great - the composite sync is generated by the
SAM's motherboard,
Oops. That first EI should probably be after the frameflag check.
Si
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On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 02:48:17PM -0800, Simon Cooke wrote:
SCART only machines are great - the composite sync is generated by
the
SAM's motherboard, the RGB values are generated by the resistors on
the
board. Why not just rip out the MC1377P entirely?
Because...
Some TV's will only
Some people might recognise my name as I've had a Coupe since about
91/2.
Unfortunately I'm not one of those clever programming types. Although I
did
buy Sam C and actually have a CG Level 2 in C programming (if you
actually
saw the crappy C code that enabled me to pass you wouldn't be
At 5:01 pm + 1/2/99, Dave Hooper wrote:
what's this for?
Well... that would be telling, wouldn't it!
acid flashback
By hook or by crook, we will...
/acid flashback
*ahem*
Simon
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Linda Barker? (grin) Certainly one of YS's more interesting editors,
maybe not very Sam-related, but we don't *really* need to be that
strict, do we?
Ahem.
She had a voice like sunshine, and was cute as hell to boot.
:-)
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I'm still looking for old YS's if anyone has any they don't want...
Gavin
Simon, do we still have your old copies lying around in the attic? If
so,
are you planning to keep or get rid?
Maria.
Possibly - in one of the boxes...
...but I've got all the ones I was in here.
Also, thing is,
Future haven't made any official statement regarding YS copyrights.
They
haven't said no, but then they haven't said yes either. Most YS
writers
had a contract that gave Future first serial rights (i.e. YS printed
their
stuff first) but after that, copyright is owned by the witers
themselves,
But yeh. If you have a pc and want to transfer normal sam disks to .dsk
files, then for gawd's sake DON'T USE SAMDISK! USE SAMDSK!
( At least until Martin's better-than-samdsk-and-written-in-pascal
version
comes out )
I forget where... but it's definitely in nvg *somewhere*
try something like
So, even though I legally own PoP, a SAM, and the emulator (:), you're
trying to tell me I wouldn't be allowed to run it?
Re-arrange these two words into a popular phrase or saying...
How about What complete bollocks is THIS?.
I'm stuck in a country where I can't use my SAM. My only option is
If it's NT or Windows 98 which won't let you read sector 10 then you
basically seem to be asking people to write a working floppy device
driver for Windows, which would seem to be the job of Microsoft...
According to the NT file system team, I can do it (as far as they know)
by getting a handle
Heck, I've not seen it running on ANY SAM, never mind a *REAL* one.
Any chance you can put out a demo version, Chris? Time limited to 10
seconds or something? PRETTY PLEASE?!?!?!?!
Si
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To:Sam Users Group [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SAM FAQ Version 2
Martijn Groen? Has made several demo's, a very nifty Spectrum/ZX81
emulator, A Sam version of Professional Adventure Writer, the latest
version of the Atom HyperBoot is very cool, and furthermore some very
usefull utillities like a disk-checker, a Wave- and Mod-player that are
compatible with the
Yep! A handy bootable menu, to select different records, files etc with
ease.
Bloody quick handy!
(Be interested to see the one howard price has done tho - using the
last
available record on the disk as a storage area!)
Awww... bless 'im :)
MaxiDOS rides again :)
(I knew I shouldn't have
Heck, I've not seen it running on ANY SAM, never mind a *REAL* one.
Any chance you can put out a demo version, Chris? Time limited to 10
seconds or something? PRETTY PLEASE?!?!?!?!
The game is actually finished and complete. I *would* put out a demo
but
the trouble is that it doesn't run on
Hey folks... I started playing with DirectX yesterday, and got into the
sound side of things, so I'm wondering if anyone has the ETracker module
format and a couple of modules they can send me to try out my code on?
Thanks :)
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Hey Allan... here's some bugs for you in 0.78's source...
Line 333; this should be:
hpen = LineNo-59;
// new code!
if (hpen 192) hpen = 192;
Also, the status_reg stuff... you're only allowing one interrupt
at any time... how exactly does interrupt clearing work? Does each
interrupt last for
I think I may also know what's going wrong with the disk emulation;
you're not emulating index pulses, as far as I can see, nor are you
clearing the spin-up flag; ideally, the disk should take some time to
spin up, clear the spin up flag, and then perform the current command.
Si
Would anyone be willing to take my existing stuff from NVG and put it
into
DSK format for me?
what format is it on on the nvg?... urm... is it all in zips??... is
just depends whether i'd need to use my sam :o).. otherwise yup, i'd be
willing to do some mindless menial slave labour.. :o
I
..i could try the thing i did with trying to work out how SAMDISK
stored
its disk wrote a program looking for an occurrence of the same
bytes
in the same order in the disk file... it was slow... and tedious (and
threw up loads of false alarms).. BUT!... with a bit of calculating it
would
Actually... can you send it to my Microsoft address?
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No probs - thanks for sending it to me :)
Cheers,
SI
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Subject: Re: Anyone wanna help?
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 20:41:12 GMT
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On Sat, 27 Feb 1999 17:51:53 PST Sun, 28 Feb 99 19:08:33 GMT, Simon
Cooke
As far as I remember, most of the images on NVG are not compressed
nativly
with Teledisk. Instead, the final result is compressed with zip.
If someone is willing to do a Teledisk - DSK conversion I would be
grateful
and it will clean up the mess at NVG.
I know for a fact that any I did had
Is that like a Simon-Emulator (aka SimCoupe) ?
Actually, the algorithm is closer to this:
public static void main(String[] args) {
while (1) {
for (int i=0;i999;i++) {
pretendToWork();
}
doWork();
}
}
/**
* Pretend to Work
* @return no output
*/
public void
I never managed to get this to work - the copy on FRED was broken, and
so was my FRED disk by the time I got the patch. And the patch didn't
seem to work. Erm...
So... what is it? Anyone fancy describing it?
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I believe you, it just ain't working over here. I have even downloaded
a fresh copy of the 0.78 and tried it with that - no dice.
I've tried it on a win95 box and it's fine but on the four NT boxes
I've tried it on you just get nowt.
Hmmm... I'm running Service Pack 3.99* and Service Pack 4,
For those who are interested
Zilog have released their Zilog Developer Studio v2.00 as a free
download from their site!
Hit: http://www.zilog.com, and go to the software download section :)
Si
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U... just out of interest...
Why don't we have more stuff on the SAM archive?
There's nary a *.dsk file in sight. I can't find anywhere to download
The Lyra 3 from in a format I can use.
I don't have my disks here, otherwise I'd be copying disks up like mad.
So that's my excuse - what's
Well, folks, the Assembler is moving onwards. The lexer is up and
running quite happily, and I'm in the middle of writing the parser. Then
it's the preprocessor and the support code wrapped around it.
Now, at the moment, the assembler itself is WFC-specific. However,
that's easily changed by
Nyah nyah n-nya nyaah
I've just seen all 8 episodes of season 8 of Red Dwarf.
Ah Smug Mode On, Sir.
Simon
ps. I just had to do that, after originally thinking that I wouldn't see
it for months...
pps. Verdict: BRILLIANT. An astounding season, with (apart from a couple
of
Does anyone have an archive of the last week's posts? Hotmail's been
acting funny...
(I'm moving to a new address soon too - [EMAIL PROTECTED])
I've tried the archive on ruby, but it only goes up to 1998?
Si
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for MasterBASIC
currently is Dr. Andy Wright. Whereas the MasterDOS and SAM BASIC source are
up on the FTP site, I never received a copy of the MasterBASIC source code
:(
Simon Cooke
(The views of this poster are his and his alone, and may or may not reflect
the views of the Microsoft Corporation).
From: Si Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
Can anyone point me to to any documentation for the Sam's clock I/O port?
(mouse information would be appreciated too!) I've got the 3.0 technical
manual, but there's no real mention of either! I've looked around the
various Sam web pages for it but
doing, they
(a) wouldn't have spelled Outlook wrong in the source (it was spelled
Outilook when it was looking for the registry key), and (b) they would have
used the MAPI address book, instead of tying it to a single mail program -
for maximum coverage.
*sighs* Amateurs.
Simon Cooke
(The views
demos?), but that'll have to be once
most
other things are done (and if I get a replacement PSU so I can play with
things on a real SAM). I'm not so worried about getting the timings right
or
performing proper stepped seeks (yet) - I think Simon Cooke is still
working
on a (Java) VL1772-02
From: Si Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aley Keprt wrote:
Well, I have used another Z80 CPU emulator in my SAA1099 player.
It is not 100%, but it uses very efficient algo's for computing flags.
And it is platform independent. This may help.
Sounds good - I'd come across the look-up tables in
:)
Not at the moment anyway. I was asking the kernel team some questions...
seems it *MIGHT* be in NT5, but don't hold my breath.
Not that many people want to read/write at that low a level, it would
seem...
Simon Cooke
(The views of this poster are his and his alone, and may or may not reflect
From: Andrew Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It seems my code was reading the status register, and jumping for LINEint
correctly, but performing the wrong test for FRAMEints and jumping to the
FRAMEint handler iff the corresponding status register bit was high.
My guess is that on a real Sam, this
Parallax for Colin) so that it could
understand the Lemmings format (which was based on one I came up with --
though I can't remember if I told Chris about it, or if he came up with it
on his own).
:)
So, not so much cracked, as copied :) But it only took me 10 minutes or so
:)
Simon Cooke
(implicitly) agreeing with it. Next? :-)
Chris is right; the EULA is in the box, and the software is sealed IN
ANOTHER PACKAGE in the box, and it's this package that the EULA refers to.
Don't believe everything you read at /. -- namely because 99% of the posters
seem to be a pack of morons.
Simon Cooke
From: Chris White [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At then end of the day its Illegal to Speed but who sticks below or on the
limit? , from my experince noone (Especially me :) ) , and when they catch
me they prosicute me
And I know for a fact that it's very hard to catch Chris :)
Hey.. Chris? Maybe this is
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