Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

[Thomas Harte]

I'm in the US at the minute, being unjustly overpaid. And probably for another 
couple of years.

> On 30 Apr 2015, at 18:25, Aleš Keprt  wrote:
> 
> I think the NTSC-PAL signal compatibility differs manufacturer to 
> manufacturer. But I wonder why do you use a NTSC display. You live outside of 
> Europe? Or you mean NTSC like a standard 60 Hz computer monitor?
>  
>  
> From: Thomas Harte
> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 10:18 PM
> To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
> Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
>  
> With further consideration I'd suggest that the hypothetical hardware 
> LDIR-alike be optionally able to logically invert its output addresses. With 
> suitable adjustments to the inputs, that gives you counting down as well as 
> counting up. So you can also scroll left-to-right!
>  
> That stuff all aside, does anybody know anything about the compatibility of 
> PAL machines with modern NTSC flat screens? The one I have otherwise does an 
> excellent job with a composite input, including the off-spec non-interlaced 
> stuff that '80s computers put out, but I've not tried it with a 50Hz or PAL 
> signal. Do manufacturers still bother to differentiate or have economies of 
> scale reduced everything down to a single chip regardless?
>  
> It also has component inputs but I've nothing that outputs component video 
> and wouldn't be surprised if it's implemented in such a way as to accept only 
> HDTV signals.
>  
> Which is a roundabout way of wondering whether I'd ever be able to use a Sam 
> 2 on this side of the Atlantic. Anyone care to speculate? I guess one of 
> those composite/s-video/RGB to HDMI converters might be a smart investment 
> anyway as they're probably only going to get more obscure.
>  
>> On 29 April 2015 at 08:09,  wrote:
>> Case looks very good. Discussion is pretty interesting.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>> On 29.04.2015 09:34, the wub wrote:
>>> 
>>> What a great project, your Sam Coupe 2 looks really amazing.  I
>>> particularly like the spherical feet!
>>> 
>>> And the Lynx did have at least one good game: Super Skweek! :)
>>  
>> 
>>  
> 
>  
> -
> Mgr. Aleš Keprt, Ph.D.
> private: a...@keprt.cz, www.keprt.cz
> office: Moravian University College / Moravská vysoká škola Olomouc, 
> ales.ke...@mvso.cz

Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

[Aleš Keprt]

I think the NTSC-PAL signal compatibility differs manufacturer to manufacturer. 
But I wonder why do you use a NTSC display. You live outside of Europe? Or you 
mean NTSC like a standard 60 Hz computer monitor?


From: Thomas Harte 
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 10:18 PM
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no 
Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

With further consideration I'd suggest that the hypothetical hardware 
LDIR-alike be optionally able to logically invert its output addresses. With 
suitable adjustments to the inputs, that gives you counting down as well as 
counting up. So you can also scroll left-to-right! 

That stuff all aside, does anybody know anything about the compatibility of PAL 
machines with modern NTSC flat screens? The one I have otherwise does an 
excellent job with a composite input, including the off-spec non-interlaced 
stuff that '80s computers put out, but I've not tried it with a 50Hz or PAL 
signal. Do manufacturers still bother to differentiate or have economies of 
scale reduced everything down to a single chip regardless?

It also has component inputs but I've nothing that outputs component video and 
wouldn't be surprised if it's implemented in such a way as to accept only HDTV 
signals.

Which is a roundabout way of wondering whether I'd ever be able to use a Sam 2 
on this side of the Atlantic. Anyone care to speculate? I guess one of those 
composite/s-video/RGB to HDMI converters might be a smart investment anyway as 
they're probably only going to get more obscure.

On 29 April 2015 at 08:09,  wrote:

  Case looks very good. Discussion is pretty interesting. 



  On 29.04.2015 09:34, the wub wrote:

What a great project, your Sam Coupe 2 looks really amazing.  I
particularly like the spherical feet!

And the Lynx did have at least one good game: Super Skweek! :)




-
Mgr. Aleš Keprt, Ph.D.
private: a...@keprt.cz, www.keprt.cz
office: Moravian University College / Moravská vysoká škola Olomouc, 
ales.ke...@mvso.cz

Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

[Thomas Harte]

With further consideration I'd suggest that the hypothetical hardware
LDIR-alike be optionally able to logically invert its output addresses.
With suitable adjustments to the inputs, that gives you counting down as
well as counting up. So you can also scroll left-to-right!

That stuff all aside, does anybody know anything about the compatibility of
PAL machines with modern NTSC flat screens? The one I have otherwise does
an excellent job with a composite input, including the off-spec
non-interlaced stuff that '80s computers put out, but I've not tried it
with a 50Hz or PAL signal. Do manufacturers still bother to differentiate
or have economies of scale reduced everything down to a single chip
regardless?

It also has component inputs but I've nothing that outputs component video
and wouldn't be surprised if it's implemented in such a way as to accept
only HDTV signals.

Which is a roundabout way of wondering whether I'd ever be able to use a
Sam 2 on this side of the Atlantic. Anyone care to speculate? I guess one
of those composite/s-video/RGB to HDMI converters might be a smart
investment anyway as they're probably only going to get more obscure.

On 29 April 2015 at 08:09,  wrote:

>  Case looks very good. Discussion is pretty interesting.
>
>
>
> On 29.04.2015 09:34, the wub wrote:
>
> What a great project, your Sam Coupe 2 looks really amazing.  I
> particularly like the spherical feet!
>
> And the Lynx did have at least one good game: Super Skweek! :)
>
>
>
>

Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

[David]

 

Case looks very good. Discussion is pretty interesting. 

On 29.04.2015 09:34, the wub wrote: 

> What a great project, your Sam Coupe 2 looks really amazing. I
> particularly like the spherical feet!
> 
> And the Lynx did have at least one good game: Super Skweek! :)

 

Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

[the wub]

What a great project, your Sam Coupe 2 looks really amazing.  I
particularly like the spherical feet!

And the Lynx did have at least one good game: Super Skweek! :)

Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

[Thomas Harte]

Yeah, it was years ahead of its time. The Gameboy Advance was a decade
later and still primarily for hardware sprites on tile maps.

But I'd still much rather see, say, a simple three-register thing: push
source address, push destination address, push length and it raises the
halt line and then copies that many bytes from source to destination at the
maximum rate (allowing for screen refresh). That's probably even simpler to
implement than hardware sprites, being just the innermost loop. The CPU
still has to do quite a lot but not too much, I think.

Anyway, neither option is really something I consider particularly
essential or even necessarily useful for a 2015 Sam 2. Just things we wish
had been in the 1989 Sam 1.

On Tuesday, 28 April 2015, Aleš Keprt  wrote:

> Technically you are correct, but I think you cannot compare the
> professional product of top class technology company like Atari with
> amateur home made product like this Sam Coupe 2. I think even the original
> Sam Coupe was rather a home made product than a professional computer
> hardware on the technology level possible in the 1980's.
>
> -Původní zpráva- From: Thomas Harte
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 1:55 PM
> To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
> Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
>
> True, but both the Lynx and the Sam came out in the same year and the Sam
> was the more expensive of the two. The Lynx gets away with it, I think,
> because it's pushing only an 8kb frame buffer — 160x102 in 4bpp. So divide
> all your mental calculations by three.
>
> ... though, of course, I wouldn't advocate it if fun games are your real
> objective.
>
> The Lynx's design is what Needle and Mical did after the Amiga and before
> the 3DO so it's from that lineage of design. The graphics hardware is like
> an Amiga plus in many ways, though a 6502 was all they could fit into the
> mobile transistor budget.
>
>  On 28 Apr 2015, at 07:22, Aleš Keprt  wrote:
>>
>> AKAIK the hardware sprites are much simpler to implement. I don't know
>> Lynx, but the blitter like you described needs uncomparably faster hardware
>> than a set of hardware sprites.
>> A.
>>
>> -----Původní zpráva- From: Thomas Harte
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 1:12 PM
>> To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
>> Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
>>
>> I'm inclined to think the Atari Lynx is the pinnacle of '80s graphics
>> chipsets: just a frame buffer and a scaling blitter. No need for all the
>> special-case sprites/backgrounds nonsense.
>>
>>  On 28 Apr 2015, at 06:32, Leslie Anderson  wrote:
>>>
>>> In an ideal world you could have :
>>>
>>> 32/8 full colour hardware sprites ...16x16 or 8x8 ? with sprite
>>> collision detection ?
>>> Hardware scroll vertical/horizontal
>>> Increase in Colour palette
>>> Hardware line interrupts (programmable) to switch palette at a fixed
>>> number of scan lines ? No need for CPU intervention.
>>>
>>> Even a second Video processor to give superposition, Superimposed video

Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

[Aleš Keprt]

Technically you are correct, but I think you cannot compare the professional 
product of top class technology company like Atari with amateur home made 
product like this Sam Coupe 2. I think even the original Sam Coupe was 
rather a home made product than a professional computer hardware on the 
technology level possible in the 1980's.


-Původní zpráva- 
From: Thomas Harte

Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 1:55 PM
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

True, but both the Lynx and the Sam came out in the same year and the Sam 
was the more expensive of the two. The Lynx gets away with it, I think, 
because it's pushing only an 8kb frame buffer — 160x102 in 4bpp. So divide 
all your mental calculations by three.


... though, of course, I wouldn't advocate it if fun games are your real 
objective.


The Lynx's design is what Needle and Mical did after the Amiga and before 
the 3DO so it's from that lineage of design. The graphics hardware is like 
an Amiga plus in many ways, though a 6502 was all they could fit into the 
mobile transistor budget.



On 28 Apr 2015, at 07:22, Aleš Keprt  wrote:

AKAIK the hardware sprites are much simpler to implement. I don't know 
Lynx, but the blitter like you described needs uncomparably faster 
hardware than a set of hardware sprites.

A.

-Původní zpráva- From: Thomas Harte
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 1:12 PM
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

I'm inclined to think the Atari Lynx is the pinnacle of '80s graphics 
chipsets: just a frame buffer and a scaling blitter. No need for all the 
special-case sprites/backgrounds nonsense.



On 28 Apr 2015, at 06:32, Leslie Anderson  wrote:

In an ideal world you could have :

32/8 full colour hardware sprites ...16x16 or 8x8 ? with sprite collision 
detection ?

Hardware scroll vertical/horizontal
Increase in Colour palette
Hardware line interrupts (programmable) to switch palette at a fixed 
number of scan lines ? No need for CPU intervention.


Even a second Video processor to give superposition, Superimposed video. 
This could be something like a V9938/V9958. though this obviously would 
mean quite a bit of extra circuitry, but the resulting graphics would be 
superb, probably surpassing a Commodore AMIGA.


Though this all boils down to someone with the time, brains and means to 
make it happen !



On 28 April 2015 at 09:28, Andrew Park  wrote:
I think hardware sprites would be great, increase in colour palette 
would be beneficial as long as more colours on screen at once was 
introduced but given the size of the screen as standard is 24k more 
colours on screen would mean more memory unless line interrupts were 
used then this would have speed issues on the cpu, so how could this be 
used?




From: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] 
On Behalf Of Leszek Chmielewski

Sent: 27 April 2015 22:27
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2



I agree. The original (crowdfunding) plans for the "new" Golden ASIC's 
involved hardware sprites and palette expansion to 4096, which is enough 
for most needs, and this as upgrade for the original SAM 1.


LCD



On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:20 PM, Aleš Keprt  wrote:

I think hardware sprites would be more beneficial than so many colors. 
If I look to old game cabinets from 80’s, many of them have got 
excellent games with simple slow CPU’s... but always with hardware 
sprites=


-
Mgr. Aleš Keprt, Ph.D.
private: a...@keprt.cz, www.keprt.cz
office: Moravian University College / Moravská vysoká škola Olomouc, 
ales.ke...@mvso.cz


-
Mgr. Aleš Keprt, Ph.D.
private: a...@keprt.cz, www.keprt.cz
office: Moravian University College / Moravská vysoká škola Olomouc, 
ales.ke...@mvso.cz 

Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

[VELESOFT]

It's based on CPLD chip, not FPGA. Then will support TXT mode in next screen 
layer with possibility use transparent color. Theoretically can CPU make 
sprites/graphic from separate characters (graphic blocks 8x8 pixels, smaller or 
bigger...) Background can be standard SAM screen in mode 3 or 4. Now I must 
finish first beta version of CPLD firmware for testing and in next step add 
more features/expansions.

VELESOFT
  - Original Message -
  From: Leslie Anderson
  To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
  Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 12:32 PM
  Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2


  In an ideal world you could have :


  32/8 full colour hardware sprites ...16x16 or 8x8 ? with sprite collision 
detection ?
  Hardware scroll vertical/horizontal
  Increase in Colour palette
  Hardware line interrupts (programmable) to switch palette at a fixed number 
of scan lines ? No need for CPU intervention.


  Even a second Video processor to give superposition, Superimposed video. This 
could be something like a V9938/V9958. though this obviously would mean quite a 
bit of extra circuitry, but the resulting graphics would be superb, probably 
surpassing a Commodore AMIGA.


  Though this all boils down to someone with the time, brains and means to make 
it happen !


  On 28 April 2015 at 09:28, Andrew Park  wrote:

I think hardware sprites would be great, increase in colour palette would 
be beneficial as long as more colours on screen at once was introduced but 
given the size of the screen as standard is 24k more colours on screen would 
mean more memory unless line interrupts were used then this would have speed 
issues on the cpu, so how could this be used?



From: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On 
Behalf Of Leszek Chmielewski
Sent: 27 April 2015 22:27
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2



I agree. The original (crowdfunding) plans for the "new" Golden ASIC's 
involved hardware sprites and palette expansion to 4096, which is enough for 
most needs, and this as upgrade for the original SAM 1.

LCD



On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:20 PM, Aleš Keprt  wrote:

I think hardware sprites would be more beneficial than so many colors. If I 
look to old game cabinets from 80’s, many of them have got excellent games with 
simple slow CPU’s... but always with hardware sprites.

A.



From: VELESOFT

Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 8:34 AM

To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no

Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2



No hardware scroll, no sprites. But text mode with transparent color(s). 
Theoretically may palete contain up to 65536 colors.



VELESOFT

  - Original Message -

  From: retr...@gmail.com

  To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no

  Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 2:46 AM

  Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2



  Velesoft, you say, the SAM2 will have 256 colours at once. Does this 
mean, the colour palette is enhanced to 512 or even 4096 colours?
  Will it have hardware scrolling or hardware sprites too?
  Greetings

  LCD


   Originalmitteilung 
  Von:VELESOFT 
  Gesendet:Fri, 24 Apr 2015 18:09:58 +0200
  An:sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
  Betreff:Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2


  - Original Message -
  From: "Chmielewski" 
  To: 
  Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 12:01 AM
  Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2


  >> Case on my picture is only one of more possible versions. I plan also
  >> other cases. Main board will small (mini itx format) and will support
  >> different additional boards with connectors. See here:
  >> http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCLONE_PANEL2.JPG
  > Thats really cool. Does this mean, it will be possible to use ZX
  > Spectrum interfaces directly?
  Yes. You can connect SAM COUPE interfaces and ZX interfaces.

  >> Will possible use also similar board for install to original SAM COUPE
  >> case, different version to MINI ITX case and different to my cases.
  >> SAM 2 is not only clone. Enable good compatibility with ZX128 and
  >> faster graphic operations, rom reflashing, rom emulation... This
  >> project is primarily maked for me and my friends, but will possible
  >> make more pieces.
  > I'm your friend, please! I want one or two of these.
  > You said, it will have Text mode. Can the Text characters be redefined?
  > Which other graphics modes are planed?
  Text modes will usable in color modes 16c/pixel and in hi-res mode(also 
color
  pixels). Yes, font will in ram.
  New graphic mode will 256x192/256 colors each 

Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

[Thomas Harte]

True, but both the Lynx and the Sam came out in the same year and the Sam was 
the more expensive of the two. The Lynx gets away with it, I think, because 
it's pushing only an 8kb frame buffer — 160x102 in 4bpp. So divide all your 
mental calculations by three.

... though, of course, I wouldn't advocate it if fun games are your real 
objective.

The Lynx's design is what Needle and Mical did after the Amiga and before the 
3DO so it's from that lineage of design. The graphics hardware is like an Amiga 
plus in many ways, though a 6502 was all they could fit into the mobile 
transistor budget.

> On 28 Apr 2015, at 07:22, Aleš Keprt  wrote:
> 
> AKAIK the hardware sprites are much simpler to implement. I don't know Lynx, 
> but the blitter like you described needs uncomparably faster hardware than a 
> set of hardware sprites.
> A.
> 
> -Původní zpráva- From: Thomas Harte
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 1:12 PM
> To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
> Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
> 
> I'm inclined to think the Atari Lynx is the pinnacle of '80s graphics 
> chipsets: just a frame buffer and a scaling blitter. No need for all the 
> special-case sprites/backgrounds nonsense.
> 
>> On 28 Apr 2015, at 06:32, Leslie Anderson  wrote:
>> 
>> In an ideal world you could have :
>> 
>> 32/8 full colour hardware sprites ...16x16 or 8x8 ? with sprite collision 
>> detection ?
>> Hardware scroll vertical/horizontal
>> Increase in Colour palette
>> Hardware line interrupts (programmable) to switch palette at a fixed number 
>> of scan lines ? No need for CPU intervention.
>> 
>> Even a second Video processor to give superposition, Superimposed video. 
>> This could be something like a V9938/V9958. though this obviously would mean 
>> quite a bit of extra circuitry, but the resulting graphics would be superb, 
>> probably surpassing a Commodore AMIGA.
>> 
>> Though this all boils down to someone with the time, brains and means to 
>> make it happen !
>> 
>>> On 28 April 2015 at 09:28, Andrew Park  wrote:
>>> I think hardware sprites would be great, increase in colour palette would 
>>> be beneficial as long as more colours on screen at once was introduced but 
>>> given the size of the screen as standard is 24k more colours on screen 
>>> would mean more memory unless line interrupts were used then this would 
>>> have speed issues on the cpu, so how could this be used?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On 
>>> Behalf Of Leszek Chmielewski
>>> Sent: 27 April 2015 22:27
>>> To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
>>> Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I agree. The original (crowdfunding) plans for the "new" Golden ASIC's 
>>> involved hardware sprites and palette expansion to 4096, which is enough 
>>> for most needs, and this as upgrade for the original SAM 1.
>>> 
>>> LCD
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:20 PM, Aleš Keprt  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think hardware sprites would be more beneficial than so many colors. If I 
>>> look to old game cabinets from 80’s, many of them have got excellent games 
>>> with simple slow CPU’s... but always with hardware sprites=
> 
> -
> Mgr. Aleš Keprt, Ph.D.
> private: a...@keprt.cz, www.keprt.cz
> office: Moravian University College / Moravská vysoká škola Olomouc, 
> ales.ke...@mvso.cz 

Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

[Aleš Keprt]

AKAIK the hardware sprites are much simpler to implement. I don't know Lynx, 
but the blitter like you described needs uncomparably faster hardware than a 
set of hardware sprites.

A.

-Původní zpráva- 
From: Thomas Harte

Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 1:12 PM
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

I'm inclined to think the Atari Lynx is the pinnacle of '80s graphics 
chipsets: just a frame buffer and a scaling blitter. No need for all the 
special-case sprites/backgrounds nonsense.



On 28 Apr 2015, at 06:32, Leslie Anderson  wrote:

In an ideal world you could have :

32/8 full colour hardware sprites ...16x16 or 8x8 ? with sprite collision 
detection ?

Hardware scroll vertical/horizontal
Increase in Colour palette
Hardware line interrupts (programmable) to switch palette at a fixed 
number of scan lines ? No need for CPU intervention.


Even a second Video processor to give superposition, Superimposed video. 
This could be something like a V9938/V9958. though this obviously would 
mean quite a bit of extra circuitry, but the resulting graphics would be 
superb, probably surpassing a Commodore AMIGA.


Though this all boils down to someone with the time, brains and means to 
make it happen !



On 28 April 2015 at 09:28, Andrew Park  wrote:
I think hardware sprites would be great, increase in colour palette would 
be beneficial as long as more colours on screen at once was introduced 
but given the size of the screen as standard is 24k more colours on 
screen would mean more memory unless line interrupts were used then this 
would have speed issues on the cpu, so how could this be used?




From: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On 
Behalf Of Leszek Chmielewski

Sent: 27 April 2015 22:27
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2



I agree. The original (crowdfunding) plans for the "new" Golden ASIC's 
involved hardware sprites and palette expansion to 4096, which is enough 
for most needs, and this as upgrade for the original SAM 1.


LCD



On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:20 PM, Aleš Keprt  wrote:

I think hardware sprites would be more beneficial than so many colors. If 
I look to old game cabinets from 80’s, many of them have got excellent 
games with simple slow CPU’s... but always with hardware sprites=


-
Mgr. Aleš Keprt, Ph.D.
private: a...@keprt.cz, www.keprt.cz
office: Moravian University College / Moravská vysoká škola Olomouc, 
ales.ke...@mvso.cz 

Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

[Thomas Harte]

I'm inclined to think the Atari Lynx is the pinnacle of '80s graphics chipsets: 
just a frame buffer and a scaling blitter. No need for all the special-case 
sprites/backgrounds nonsense.

> On 28 Apr 2015, at 06:32, Leslie Anderson  wrote:
> 
> In an ideal world you could have :
> 
> 32/8 full colour hardware sprites ...16x16 or 8x8 ? with sprite collision 
> detection ?
> Hardware scroll vertical/horizontal
> Increase in Colour palette
> Hardware line interrupts (programmable) to switch palette at a fixed number 
> of scan lines ? No need for CPU intervention. 
> 
> Even a second Video processor to give superposition, Superimposed video. This 
> could be something like a V9938/V9958. though this obviously would mean quite 
> a bit of extra circuitry, but the resulting graphics would be superb, 
> probably surpassing a Commodore AMIGA.
> 
> Though this all boils down to someone with the time, brains and means to make 
> it happen !
> 
>> On 28 April 2015 at 09:28, Andrew Park  wrote:
>> I think hardware sprites would be great, increase in colour palette would be 
>> beneficial as long as more colours on screen at once was introduced but 
>> given the size of the screen as standard is 24k more colours on screen would 
>> mean more memory unless line interrupts were used then this would have speed 
>> issues on the cpu, so how could this be used?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On 
>> Behalf Of Leszek Chmielewski
>> Sent: 27 April 2015 22:27
>> To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
>> Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I agree. The original (crowdfunding) plans for the "new" Golden ASIC's 
>> involved hardware sprites and palette expansion to 4096, which is enough for 
>> most needs, and this as upgrade for the original SAM 1.
>> 
>> LCD
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:20 PM, Aleš Keprt  wrote:
>> 
>> I think hardware sprites would be more beneficial than so many colors. If I 
>> look to old game cabinets from 80’s, many of them have got excellent games 
>> with simple slow CPU’s... but always with hardware sprites

Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

[Leslie Anderson]

In an ideal world you could have :

32/8 full colour hardware sprites ...16x16 or 8x8 ? with sprite collision
detection ?
Hardware scroll vertical/horizontal
Increase in Colour palette
Hardware line interrupts (programmable) to switch palette at a fixed number
of scan lines ? No need for CPU intervention.

Even a second Video processor to give superposition, Superimposed video.
This could be something like a V9938/V9958. though this obviously would
mean quite a bit of extra circuitry, but the resulting graphics would be
superb, probably surpassing a Commodore AMIGA.

Though this all boils down to someone with the time, brains and means to
make it happen !

On 28 April 2015 at 09:28, Andrew Park  wrote:

> I think hardware sprites would be great, increase in colour palette would
> be beneficial as long as more colours on screen at once was introduced but
> given the size of the screen as standard is 24k more colours on screen
> would mean more memory unless line interrupts were used then this would
> have speed issues on the cpu, so how could this be used?
>
>
>
> *From:* owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] *On
> Behalf Of *Leszek Chmielewski
> *Sent:* 27 April 2015 22:27
> *To:* sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
> *Subject:* Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
>
>
>
> I agree. The original (crowdfunding) plans for the "new" Golden ASIC's
> involved hardware sprites and palette expansion to 4096, which is enough
> for most needs, and this as upgrade for the original SAM 1.
>
> LCD
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:20 PM, Aleš Keprt  wrote:
>
> I think hardware sprites would be more beneficial than so many colors. If
> I look to old game cabinets from 80’s, many of them have got excellent
> games with simple slow CPU’s... but always with hardware sprites.
>
> A.
>
>
>
> *From:* VELESOFT 
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 25, 2015 8:34 AM
>
> *To:* sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
>
> *Subject:* Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
>
>
>
> No hardware scroll, no sprites. But text mode with transparent color(s).
> Theoretically may palete contain up to 65536 colors.
>
>
>
> VELESOFT
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* retr...@gmail.com
>
> *To:* sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 25, 2015 2:46 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
>
>
>
> Velesoft, you say, the SAM2 will have 256 colours at once. Does this mean,
> the colour palette is enhanced to 512 or even 4096 colours?
> Will it have hardware scrolling or hardware sprites too?
> Greetings
>
> LCD
>
>
>  Originalmitteilung 
> Von:VELESOFT 
> Gesendet:Fri, 24 Apr 2015 18:09:58 +0200
> An:sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
> Betreff:Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Chmielewski" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 12:01 AM
> Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
>
>
> >> Case on my picture is only one of more possible versions. I plan also
> >> other cases. Main board will small (mini itx format) and will support
> >> different additional boards with connectors. See here:
> >> http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCLONE_PANEL2.JPG
> > Thats really cool. Does this mean, it will be possible to use ZX
> > Spectrum interfaces directly?
> Yes. You can connect SAM COUPE interfaces and ZX interfaces.
>
> >> Will possible use also similar board for install to original SAM COUPE
> >> case, different version to MINI ITX case and different to my cases.
> >> SAM 2 is not only clone. Enable good compatibility with ZX128 and
> >> faster graphic operations, rom reflashing, rom emulation... This
> >> project is primarily maked for me and my friends, but will possible
> >> make more pieces.
> > I'm your friend, please! I want one or two of these.
> > You said, it will have Text mode. Can the Text characters be redefined?
> > Which other graphics modes are planed?
> Text modes will usable in color modes 16c/pixel and in hi-res mode(also
> color
> pixels). Yes, font will in ram.
> New graphic mode will 256x192/256 colors each pixel and may be also
> 512x192/256c.
>
> >> Big part of USB/PS2 keyboards have ghosting effect and not support
> >> some keys combinations in ZX games. For example problems with SINCLAIR
> >> joysticks, QWERT, CURSORS+0, QAOP+SPACE, etc... Laptop keyboard
> >> contain only membrane, but is possible with software filter eliminate
> >> ghosting effect. And TOSHIBA SATELLITE laptop ke

RE: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

[Andrew Park]

I think hardware sprites would be great, increase in colour palette would be 
beneficial as long as more colours on screen at once was introduced but given 
the size of the screen as standard is 24k more colours on screen would mean 
more memory unless line interrupts were used then this would have speed issues 
on the cpu, so how could this be used? 

 

From: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On 
Behalf Of Leszek Chmielewski
Sent: 27 April 2015 22:27
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

 

I agree. The original (crowdfunding) plans for the "new" Golden ASIC's involved 
hardware sprites and palette expansion to 4096, which is enough for most needs, 
and this as upgrade for the original SAM 1.

LCD

 

On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:20 PM, Aleš Keprt  wrote:

I think hardware sprites would be more beneficial than so many colors. If I 
look to old game cabinets from 80’s, many of them have got excellent games with 
simple slow CPU’s... but always with hardware sprites.

A.

 

From: VELESOFT <mailto:veles...@seznam.cz>  

Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 8:34 AM

To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no 

Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

 

No hardware scroll, no sprites. But text mode with transparent color(s). 
Theoretically may palete contain up to 65536 colors.

 

VELESOFT

- Original Message - 

From: retr...@gmail.com 

To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no 

Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 2:46 AM

Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

 

Velesoft, you say, the SAM2 will have 256 colours at once. Does this mean, the 
colour palette is enhanced to 512 or even 4096 colours?
Will it have hardware scrolling or hardware sprites too?
Greetings

LCD


 Originalmitteilung 
Von:VELESOFT 
Gesendet:Fri, 24 Apr 2015 18:09:58 +0200
An:sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no <mailto:an%3asam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no> 
Betreff:Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2


- Original Message - 
From: "Chmielewski" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2


>> Case on my picture is only one of more possible versions. I plan also
>> other cases. Main board will small (mini itx format) and will support
>> different additional boards with connectors. See here:
>> http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCLONE_PANEL2.JPG
> Thats really cool. Does this mean, it will be possible to use ZX
> Spectrum interfaces directly?
Yes. You can connect SAM COUPE interfaces and ZX interfaces.

>> Will possible use also similar board for install to original SAM COUPE
>> case, different version to MINI ITX case and different to my cases.
>> SAM 2 is not only clone. Enable good compatibility with ZX128 and
>> faster graphic operations, rom reflashing, rom emulation... This
>> project is primarily maked for me and my friends, but will possible
>> make more pieces.
> I'm your friend, please! I want one or two of these.
> You said, it will have Text mode. Can the Text characters be redefined?
> Which other graphics modes are planed?
Text modes will usable in color modes 16c/pixel and in hi-res mode(also color 
pixels). Yes, font will in ram.
New graphic mode will 256x192/256 colors each pixel and may be also 
512x192/256c.

>> Big part of USB/PS2 keyboards have ghosting effect and not support
>> some keys combinations in ZX games. For example problems with SINCLAIR
>> joysticks, QWERT, CURSORS+0, QAOP+SPACE, etc... Laptop keyboard
>> contain only membrane, but is possible with software filter eliminate
>> ghosting effect. And TOSHIBA SATELLITE laptop keyboards support most
>> popular keys combinations in ZX games. Info about PC keyboard ghosting
>> test:
>> http://speccy.pl/forum/index.php/topic,1221.msg14678.html#msg14678
>>
>> High priority is for me keyboard with usable keys combinations in
>> games. Laptop keyboard is small, cheap and is possible buy each type
>> more years after release. SAM 2 use universal adapter for connect any
>> laptop keyboard and will use define keys after first connect new
>> keyboard (any membrane). Each user can define own keys layout.
>>
> Excellent, but I hope, you can use also original SAM membranes in a SAM
> case.
Yes. All membranes will usable. ZX membrane, +2A/+3 membrane, laptom keyboards, 
sam coupe membrane, membrane from any PS/2 or USB keyboards...
Keyboard module use software autodetection on all pins of connected membrane. 
If 
you connect any new membrane, must be call software test which test membrane 
state during pressing key by key. After detect all states save new 
configuration 
for your keyboard. Membrane is under software controll thanks to second CPU 
Z80. 
All software for 

Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

[Leszek Chmielewski]

I agree. The original (crowdfunding) plans for the "new" Golden ASIC's
involved hardware sprites and palette expansion to 4096, which is enough
for most needs, and this as upgrade for the original SAM 1.
LCD

On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:20 PM, Aleš Keprt  wrote:

>   I think hardware sprites would be more beneficial than so many colors.
> If I look to old game cabinets from 80’s, many of them have got excellent
> games with simple slow CPU’s... but always with hardware sprites.
> A.
>
>  *From:* VELESOFT 
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 25, 2015 8:34 AM
> *To:* sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
> *Subject:* Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
>
>  No hardware scroll, no sprites. But text mode with transparent color(s).
> Theoretically may palete contain up to 65536 colors.
>
> VELESOFT
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* retr...@gmail.com
> *To:* sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 25, 2015 2:46 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
>
> Velesoft, you say, the SAM2 will have 256 colours at once. Does this mean,
> the colour palette is enhanced to 512 or even 4096 colours?
> Will it have hardware scrolling or hardware sprites too?
> Greetings
>
> LCD
>
>
>  Originalmitteilung 
> Von:VELESOFT 
> Gesendet:Fri, 24 Apr 2015 18:09:58 +0200
> An:sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
> Betreff:Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Chmielewski" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 12:01 AM
> Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
>
>
> >> Case on my picture is only one of more possible versions. I plan also
> >> other cases. Main board will small (mini itx format) and will support
> >> different additional boards with connectors. See here:
> >> http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCLONE_PANEL2.JPG
> > Thats really cool. Does this mean, it will be possible to use ZX
> > Spectrum interfaces directly?
> Yes. You can connect SAM COUPE interfaces and ZX interfaces.
>
> >> Will possible use also similar board for install to original SAM COUPE
> >> case, different version to MINI ITX case and different to my cases.
> >> SAM 2 is not only clone. Enable good compatibility with ZX128 and
> >> faster graphic operations, rom reflashing, rom emulation... This
> >> project is primarily maked for me and my friends, but will possible
> >> make more pieces.
> > I'm your friend, please! I want one or two of these.
> > You said, it will have Text mode. Can the Text characters be redefined?
> > Which other graphics modes are planed?
> Text modes will usable in color modes 16c/pixel and in hi-res mode(also
> color
> pixels). Yes, font will in ram.
> New graphic mode will 256x192/256 colors each pixel and may be also
> 512x192/256c.
>
> >> Big part of USB/PS2 keyboards have ghosting effect and not support
> >> some keys combinations in ZX games. For example problems with SINCLAIR
> >> joysticks, QWERT, CURSORS+0, QAOP+SPACE, etc... Laptop keyboard
> >> contain only membrane, but is possible with software filter eliminate
> >> ghosting effect. And TOSHIBA SATELLITE laptop keyboards support most
> >> popular keys combinations in ZX games. Info about PC keyboard ghosting
> >> test:
> >> http://speccy.pl/forum/index.php/topic,1221.msg14678.html#msg14678
> >>
> >> High priority is for me keyboard with usable keys combinations in
> >> games. Laptop keyboard is small, cheap and is possible buy each type
> >> more years after release. SAM 2 use universal adapter for connect any
> >> laptop keyboard and will use define keys after first connect new
> >> keyboard (any membrane). Each user can define own keys layout.
> >>
> > Excellent, but I hope, you can use also original SAM membranes in a SAM
> > case.
> Yes. All membranes will usable. ZX membrane, +2A/+3 membrane, laptom
> keyboards,
> sam coupe membrane, membrane from any PS/2 or USB keyboards...
> Keyboard module use software autodetection on all pins of connected
> membrane. If
> you connect any new membrane, must be call software test which test
> membrane
> state during pressing key by key. After detect all states save new
> configuration
> for your keyboard. Membrane is under software controll thanks to second
> CPU Z80.
> All software for second CPU will be in assembler Z80 and rewritable direct
> from
> computer :-)
> >>
> > LCD
> >> - Original Message - From: "Aleš Keprt" 
> >> To: 
> >> Se

Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

[Aleš Keprt]

I think hardware sprites would be more beneficial than so many colors. If I 
look to old game cabinets from 80’s, many of them have got excellent games with 
simple slow CPU’s... but always with hardware sprites.
A.

From: VELESOFT 
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 8:34 AM
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no 
Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

No hardware scroll, no sprites. But text mode with transparent color(s). 
Theoretically may palete contain up to 65536 colors.

VELESOFT
  - Original Message - 
  From: retr...@gmail.com 
  To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no 
  Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 2:46 AM
  Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

  Velesoft, you say, the SAM2 will have 256 colours at once. Does this mean, 
the colour palette is enhanced to 512 or even 4096 colours?
  Will it have hardware scrolling or hardware sprites too?
  Greetings

  LCD


   Originalmitteilung 
  Von:VELESOFT 
  Gesendet:Fri, 24 Apr 2015 18:09:58 +0200
  An:sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
  Betreff:Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2


  - Original Message - 
  From: "Chmielewski" 
  To: 
  Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 12:01 AM
  Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2


  >> Case on my picture is only one of more possible versions. I plan also
  >> other cases. Main board will small (mini itx format) and will support
  >> different additional boards with connectors. See here:
  >> http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCLONE_PANEL2.JPG
  > Thats really cool. Does this mean, it will be possible to use ZX
  > Spectrum interfaces directly?
  Yes. You can connect SAM COUPE interfaces and ZX interfaces.

  >> Will possible use also similar board for install to original SAM COUPE
  >> case, different version to MINI ITX case and different to my cases.
  >> SAM 2 is not only clone. Enable good compatibility with ZX128 and
  >> faster graphic operations, rom reflashing, rom emulation... This
  >> project is primarily maked for me and my friends, but will possible
  >> make more pieces.
  > I'm your friend, please! I want one or two of these.
  > You said, it will have Text mode. Can the Text characters be redefined?
  > Which other graphics modes are planed?
  Text modes will usable in color modes 16c/pixel and in hi-res mode(also color 
  pixels). Yes, font will in ram.
  New graphic mode will 256x192/256 colors each pixel and may be also 
  512x192/256c.

  >> Big part of USB/PS2 keyboards have ghosting effect and not support
  >> some keys combinations in ZX games. For example problems with SINCLAIR
  >> joysticks, QWERT, CURSORS+0, QAOP+SPACE, etc... Laptop keyboard
  >> contain only membrane, but is possible with software filter eliminate
  >> ghosting effect. And TOSHIBA SATELLITE laptop keyboards support most
  >> popular keys combinations in ZX games. Info about PC keyboard ghosting
  >> test:
  >> http://speccy.pl/forum/index.php/topic,1221.msg14678.html#msg14678
  >>
  >> High priority is for me keyboard with usable keys combinations in
  >> games. Laptop keyboard is small, cheap and is possible buy each type
  >> more years after release. SAM 2 use universal adapter for connect any
  >> laptop keyboard and will use define keys after first connect new
  >> keyboard (any membrane). Each user can define own keys layout.
  >>
  > Excellent, but I hope, you can use also original SAM membranes in a SAM
  > case.
  Yes. All membranes will usable. ZX membrane, +2A/+3 membrane, laptom 
keyboards, 
  sam coupe membrane, membrane from any PS/2 or USB keyboards...
  Keyboard module use software autodetection on all pins of connected membrane. 
If 
  you connect any new membrane, must be call software test which test membrane 
  state during pressing key by key. After detect all states save new 
configuration 
  for your keyboard. Membrane is under software controll thanks to second CPU 
Z80. 
  All software for second CPU will be in assembler Z80 and rewritable direct 
from 
  computer :-)
  >>
  > LCD
  >> - Original Message - From: "Aleš Keprt" 
  >> To: 
  >> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 8:18 PM
  >> Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
  >>
  >>
  >>> Sorry, I am pessimistic here. I don't like this design. I don't like
  >>> the look of the original Sam Coupe either, why the hell would anybody
  >>> want to clone it? In my opinion it's weird, it's a waste of effort
  >>> and skills. And why 3.5" floppy diskettes? Another weird thing here.
  >>> It's 2014, not 1984! I would definitely prefer a standard PC keyboard
  >>> and a computer in a separate box, with 

Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

[VELESOFT]

No hardware scroll, no sprites. But text mode with transparent color(s). 
Theoretically may palete contain up to 65536 colors.

VELESOFT
  - Original Message -
  From: retr...@gmail.com
  To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
  Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 2:46 AM
  Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2


  Velesoft, you say, the SAM2 will have 256 colours at once. Does this mean, 
the colour palette is enhanced to 512 or even 4096 colours?
  Will it have hardware scrolling or hardware sprites too?
  Greetings

  LCD


   Originalmitteilung 
  Von:VELESOFT 
  Gesendet:Fri, 24 Apr 2015 18:09:58 +0200
  An:sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
  Betreff:Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2


  - Original Message -
  From: "Chmielewski" 
  To: 
  Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 12:01 AM
  Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2


  >> Case on my picture is only one of more possible versions. I plan also
  >> other cases. Main board will small (mini itx format) and will support
  >> different additional boards with connectors. See here:
  >> http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCLONE_PANEL2.JPG
  > Thats really cool. Does this mean, it will be possible to use ZX
  > Spectrum interfaces directly?
  Yes. You can connect SAM COUPE interfaces and ZX interfaces.

  >> Will possible use also similar board for install to original SAM COUPE
  >> case, different version to MINI ITX case and different to my cases.
  >> SAM 2 is not only clone. Enable good compatibility with ZX128 and
  >> faster graphic operations, rom reflashing, rom emulation... This
  >> project is primarily maked for me and my friends, but will possible
  >> make more pieces.
  > I'm your friend, please! I want one or two of these.
  > You said, it will have Text mode. Can the Text characters be redefined?
  > Which other graphics modes are planed?
  Text modes will usable in color modes 16c/pixel and in hi-res mode(also color
  pixels). Yes, font will in ram.
  New graphic mode will 256x192/256 colors each pixel and may be also
  512x192/256c.

  >> Big part of USB/PS2 keyboards have ghosting effect and not support
  >> some keys combinations in ZX games. For example problems with SINCLAIR
  >> joysticks, QWERT, CURSORS+0, QAOP+SPACE, etc... Laptop keyboard
  >> contain only membrane, but is possible with software filter eliminate
  >> ghosting effect. And TOSHIBA SATELLITE laptop keyboards support most
  >> popular keys combinations in ZX games. Info about PC keyboard ghosting
  >> test:
  >> http://speccy.pl/forum/index.php/topic,1221.msg14678.html#msg14678
  >>
  >> High priority is for me keyboard with usable keys combinations in
  >> games. Laptop keyboard is small, cheap and is possible buy each type
  >> more years after release. SAM 2 use universal adapter for connect any
  >> laptop keyboard and will use define keys after first connect new
  >> keyboard (any membrane). Each user can define own keys layout.
  >>
  > Excellent, but I hope, you can use also original SAM membranes in a SAM
  > case.
  Yes. All membranes will usable. ZX membrane, +2A/+3 membrane, laptom 
keyboards,
  sam coupe membrane, membrane from any PS/2 or USB keyboards...
  Keyboard module use software autodetection on all pins of connected membrane. 
If
  you connect any new membrane, must be call software test which test membrane
  state during pressing key by key. After detect all states save new 
configuration
  for your keyboard. Membrane is under software controll thanks to second CPU 
Z80.
  All software for second CPU will be in assembler Z80 and rewritable direct 
from
  computer :-)
  >>
  > LCD
  >> - Original Message - From: "Aleš Keprt" 
  >> To: 
  >> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 8:18 PM
  >> Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
  >>
  >>
  >>> Sorry, I am pessimistic here. I don't like this design. I don't like
  >>> the look of the original Sam Coupe either, why the hell would anybody
  >>> want to clone it? In my opinion it's weird, it's a waste of effort
  >>> and skills. And why 3.5" floppy diskettes? Another weird thing here.
  >>> It's 2014, not 1984! I would definitely prefer a standard PC keyboard
  >>> and a computer in a separate box, with flash memory cards (of any
  >>> easily implementable type) instead of the current design.
  >>>
  >>> Best regards,
  >>> Aley
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> -Původní zpráva- From: VELESOFT
  >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 11:10 PM
  >>> To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
  >>> Subject: Re: 

Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

[retr...@gmail.com]

Velesoft, you say, the SAM2 will have 256 colours at once. Does this mean, the 
colour palette is enhanced to 512 or even 4096 colours?
Will it have hardware scrolling or hardware sprites too?
Greetings

LCD


 Originalmitteilung 
Von:VELESOFT 
Gesendet:Fri, 24 Apr 2015 18:09:58 +0200
An:sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Betreff:Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Chmielewski" 
>To: 
>Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 12:01 AM
>Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
>
>
>>> Case on my picture is only one of more possible versions. I plan also
>>> other cases. Main board will small (mini itx format) and will support
>>> different additional boards with connectors. See here:
>>> http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCLONE_PANEL2.JPG
>> Thats really cool. Does this mean, it will be possible to use ZX
>> Spectrum interfaces directly?
>Yes. You can connect SAM COUPE interfaces and ZX interfaces.
>
>>> Will possible use also similar board for install to original SAM COUPE
>>> case, different version to MINI ITX case and different to my cases.
>>> SAM 2 is not only clone. Enable good compatibility with ZX128 and
>>> faster graphic operations, rom reflashing, rom emulation... This
>>> project is primarily maked for me and my friends, but will possible
>>> make more pieces.
>> I'm your friend, please! I want one or two of these.
>> You said, it will have Text mode. Can the Text characters be redefined?
>> Which other graphics modes are planed?
>Text modes will usable in color modes 16c/pixel and in hi-res mode(also color 
>pixels). Yes, font will in ram.
>New graphic mode will 256x192/256 colors each pixel and may be also 
>512x192/256c.
>
>>> Big part of USB/PS2 keyboards have ghosting effect and not support
>>> some keys combinations in ZX games. For example problems with SINCLAIR
>>> joysticks, QWERT, CURSORS+0, QAOP+SPACE, etc... Laptop keyboard
>>> contain only membrane, but is possible with software filter eliminate
>>> ghosting effect. And TOSHIBA SATELLITE laptop keyboards support most
>>> popular keys combinations in ZX games. Info about PC keyboard ghosting
>>> test:
>>> http://speccy.pl/forum/index.php/topic,1221.msg14678.html#msg14678
>>>
>>> High priority is for me keyboard with usable keys combinations in
>>> games. Laptop keyboard is small, cheap and is possible buy each type
>>> more years after release. SAM 2 use universal adapter for connect any
>>> laptop keyboard and will use define keys after first connect new
>>> keyboard (any membrane). Each user can define own keys layout.
>>>
>> Excellent, but I hope, you can use also original SAM membranes in a SAM
>> case.
>Yes. All membranes will usable. ZX membrane, +2A/+3 membrane, laptom 
>keyboards, 
>sam coupe membrane, membrane from any PS/2 or USB keyboards...
>Keyboard module use software autodetection on all pins of connected membrane. 
>If 
>you connect any new membrane, must be call software test which test membrane 
>state during pressing key by key. After detect all states save new 
>configuration 
>for your keyboard. Membrane is under software controll thanks to second CPU 
>Z80. 
>All software for second CPU will be in assembler Z80 and rewritable direct 
>from 
>computer :-)
>>>
>> LCD
>>> - Original Message - From: "Aleš Keprt" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 8:18 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
>>>
>>>
>>>> Sorry, I am pessimistic here. I don't like this design. I don't like
>>>> the look of the original Sam Coupe either, why the hell would anybody
>>>> want to clone it? In my opinion it's weird, it's a waste of effort
>>>> and skills. And why 3.5" floppy diskettes? Another weird thing here.
>>>> It's 2014, not 1984! I would definitely prefer a standard PC keyboard
>>>> and a computer in a separate box, with flash memory cards (of any
>>>> easily implementable type) instead of the current design.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Aley
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Původní zpráva- From: VELESOFT
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 11:10 PM
>>>> To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
>>>> Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
>>>>
>>>> New computer compatible with sam coupe and ZX128. Contain real CPU
&

Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

[VELESOFT]

- Original Message - 
From: "Chmielewski" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2



Case on my picture is only one of more possible versions. I plan also
other cases. Main board will small (mini itx format) and will support
different additional boards with connectors. See here:
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCLONE_PANEL2.JPG

Thats really cool. Does this mean, it will be possible to use ZX
Spectrum interfaces directly?

Yes. You can connect SAM COUPE interfaces and ZX interfaces.


Will possible use also similar board for install to original SAM COUPE
case, different version to MINI ITX case and different to my cases.
SAM 2 is not only clone. Enable good compatibility with ZX128 and
faster graphic operations, rom reflashing, rom emulation... This
project is primarily maked for me and my friends, but will possible
make more pieces.

I'm your friend, please! I want one or two of these.
You said, it will have Text mode. Can the Text characters be redefined?
Which other graphics modes are planed?
Text modes will usable in color modes 16c/pixel and in hi-res mode(also color 
pixels). Yes, font will in ram.
New graphic mode will 256x192/256 colors each pixel and may be also 
512x192/256c.



Big part of USB/PS2 keyboards have ghosting effect and not support
some keys combinations in ZX games. For example problems with SINCLAIR
joysticks, QWERT, CURSORS+0, QAOP+SPACE, etc... Laptop keyboard
contain only membrane, but is possible with software filter eliminate
ghosting effect. And TOSHIBA SATELLITE laptop keyboards support most
popular keys combinations in ZX games. Info about PC keyboard ghosting
test:
http://speccy.pl/forum/index.php/topic,1221.msg14678.html#msg14678

High priority is for me keyboard with usable keys combinations in
games. Laptop keyboard is small, cheap and is possible buy each type
more years after release. SAM 2 use universal adapter for connect any
laptop keyboard and will use define keys after first connect new
keyboard (any membrane). Each user can define own keys layout.


Excellent, but I hope, you can use also original SAM membranes in a SAM
case.
Yes. All membranes will usable. ZX membrane, +2A/+3 membrane, laptom keyboards, 
sam coupe membrane, membrane from any PS/2 or USB keyboards...
Keyboard module use software autodetection on all pins of connected membrane. If 
you connect any new membrane, must be call software test which test membrane 
state during pressing key by key. After detect all states save new configuration 
for your keyboard. Membrane is under software controll thanks to second CPU Z80. 
All software for second CPU will be in assembler Z80 and rewritable direct from 
computer :-)



LCD

- Original Message - From: "Aleš Keprt" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2



Sorry, I am pessimistic here. I don't like this design. I don't like
the look of the original Sam Coupe either, why the hell would anybody
want to clone it? In my opinion it's weird, it's a waste of effort
and skills. And why 3.5" floppy diskettes? Another weird thing here.
It's 2014, not 1984! I would definitely prefer a standard PC keyboard
and a computer in a separate box, with flash memory cards (of any
easily implementable type) instead of the current design.

Best regards,
Aley


-Původní zpráva- From: VELESOFT
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 11:10 PM
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

New computer compatible with sam coupe and ZX128. Contain real CPU
Zilog Z80,
and CPLD chip instead old ASIC. Real SAA1099 and AY chip,... Don't
contain any
modern PIC,ARM. Price is unknown, all is in development.

VELESOFT

- Original Message - From: "Thomas Harte"

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 11:01 PM
Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2


It reflects poorly on me but Spanish isn't one of my languages. What
sort of
machine is it? A genuine hardware compatible or just a Pi-or-whatever
in a
suitable case? How much? When? In what form?

Very exciting.


On 22 Apr 2015, at 14:59, Andrew Park  wrote:

Interested to see some more information on this, will it be a DIY
sam or produced?

Andy


From: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no
[mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On Behalf Of Kurt K
Sent: 22 April 2015 17:34
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

Where do we find more information?  I'd love to get one.  I'll have
to look closer on Velesoft's website.

On Apr 22, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Leszek Chmielewski 
wrote:

How much will it cost?

On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 5:29 PM, VELESOFT  wrote:
It's first version of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2:

http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6E.JPG
htt

Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

[Chmielewski]

Hi Velesoft.
Am 23.04.2015 um 22:17 schrieb VELESOFT:
For it is better RaspberryPi with SIM COUPE emulator. Small and cheap 
and with more features. :-) All clones are only for fans.

I'm a fan!!!
Case on my picture is only one of more possible versions. I plan also 
other cases. Main board will small (mini itx format) and will support 
different additional boards with connectors. See here:

http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCLONE_PANEL2.JPG
Thats really cool. Does this mean, it will be possible to use ZX 
Spectrum interfaces directly?
Will possible use also similar board for install to original SAM COUPE 
case, different version to MINI ITX case and different to my cases. 
SAM 2 is not only clone. Enable good compatibility with ZX128 and 
faster graphic operations, rom reflashing, rom emulation... This 
project is primarily maked for me and my friends, but will possible 
make more pieces.

I'm your friend, please! I want one or two of these.
You said, it will have Text mode. Can the Text characters be redefined? 
Which other graphics modes are planed?
Real FDD is used only with this my case. SAM 2 can be used also as ZX 
compatible computer but with all SAM COUPE features as bonus :-) Case 
will support SD card (in ZX mode compatible with DIVMMC).



Real FDD makes sense for users of original software.
Big part of USB/PS2 keyboards have ghosting effect and not support 
some keys combinations in ZX games. For example problems with SINCLAIR 
joysticks, QWERT, CURSORS+0, QAOP+SPACE, etc... Laptop keyboard 
contain only membrane, but is possible with software filter eliminate 
ghosting effect. And TOSHIBA SATELLITE laptop keyboards support most 
popular keys combinations in ZX games. Info about PC keyboard ghosting 
test:

http://speccy.pl/forum/index.php/topic,1221.msg14678.html#msg14678

High priority is for me keyboard with usable keys combinations in 
games. Laptop keyboard is small, cheap and is possible buy each type 
more years after release. SAM 2 use universal adapter for connect any 
laptop keyboard and will use define keys after first connect new 
keyboard (any membrane). Each user can define own keys layout.


Excellent, but I hope, you can use also original SAM membranes in a SAM 
case.

VELESOFT


LCD

- Original Message - From: "Aleš Keprt" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2


Sorry, I am pessimistic here. I don't like this design. I don't like 
the look of the original Sam Coupe either, why the hell would anybody 
want to clone it? In my opinion it's weird, it's a waste of effort 
and skills. And why 3.5" floppy diskettes? Another weird thing here. 
It's 2014, not 1984! I would definitely prefer a standard PC keyboard 
and a computer in a separate box, with flash memory cards (of any 
easily implementable type) instead of the current design.


Best regards,
Aley


-Původní zpráva- From: VELESOFT
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 11:10 PM
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

New computer compatible with sam coupe and ZX128. Contain real CPU 
Zilog Z80,
and CPLD chip instead old ASIC. Real SAA1099 and AY chip,... Don't 
contain any

modern PIC,ARM. Price is unknown, all is in development.

VELESOFT

- Original Message - From: "Thomas Harte" 


To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 11:01 PM
Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2


It reflects poorly on me but Spanish isn't one of my languages. What 
sort of
machine is it? A genuine hardware compatible or just a Pi-or-whatever 
in a

suitable case? How much? When? In what form?

Very exciting.


On 22 Apr 2015, at 14:59, Andrew Park  wrote:

Interested to see some more information on this, will it be a DIY 
sam or produced?


Andy


From: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no 
[mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On Behalf Of Kurt K

Sent: 22 April 2015 17:34
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

Where do we find more information?  I'd love to get one.  I'll have 
to look closer on Velesoft's website.


On Apr 22, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Leszek Chmielewski  
wrote:


How much will it cost?

On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 5:29 PM, VELESOFT  wrote:
It's first version of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2:

http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6E.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6A.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6D.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6B.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6C.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6G.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6H.JPG

VELESOFT

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Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

[VELESOFT]

For it is better RaspberryPi with SIM COUPE emulator. Small and cheap and with 
more features. :-) All clones are only for fans.
Case on my picture is only one of more possible versions. I plan also other 
cases. Main board will small (mini itx format) and will support different 
additional boards with connectors. See here:

http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCLONE_PANEL2.JPG
Will possible use also similar board for install to original SAM COUPE case, 
different version to MINI ITX case and different to my cases. SAM 2 is not only 
clone. Enable good compatibility with ZX128 and faster graphic operations, rom 
reflashing, rom emulation... This project is primarily maked for me and my 
friends, but will possible make more pieces. Real FDD is used only with this my 
case. SAM 2 can be used also as ZX compatible computer but with all SAM COUPE 
features as bonus :-) Case will support SD card (in ZX mode compatible with 
DIVMMC).


Big part of USB/PS2 keyboards have ghosting effect and not support some keys 
combinations in ZX games. For example problems with SINCLAIR joysticks, QWERT, 
CURSORS+0, QAOP+SPACE, etc... Laptop keyboard contain only membrane, but is 
possible with software filter eliminate ghosting effect. And TOSHIBA SATELLITE 
laptop keyboards support most popular keys combinations in ZX games. Info about 
PC keyboard ghosting test:

http://speccy.pl/forum/index.php/topic,1221.msg14678.html#msg14678

High priority is for me keyboard with usable keys combinations in games. Laptop 
keyboard is small, cheap and is possible buy each type more years after release. 
SAM 2 use universal adapter for connect any laptop keyboard and will use define 
keys after first connect new keyboard (any membrane). Each user can define own 
keys layout.


VELESOFT

- Original Message - 
From: "Aleš Keprt" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2


Sorry, I am pessimistic here. I don't like this design. I don't like the look 
of the original Sam Coupe either, why the hell would anybody want to clone it? 
In my opinion it's weird, it's a waste of effort and skills. And why 3.5" 
floppy diskettes? Another weird thing here. It's 2014, not 1984! I would 
definitely prefer a standard PC keyboard and a computer in a separate box, 
with flash memory cards (of any easily implementable type) instead of the 
current design.


Best regards,
Aley


-Původní zpráva- 
From: VELESOFT

Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 11:10 PM
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

New computer compatible with sam coupe and ZX128. Contain real CPU Zilog Z80,
and CPLD chip instead old ASIC. Real SAA1099 and AY chip,... Don't contain any
modern PIC,ARM. Price is unknown, all is in development.

VELESOFT

- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Harte" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 11:01 PM
Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2


It reflects poorly on me but Spanish isn't one of my languages. What sort of
machine is it? A genuine hardware compatible or just a Pi-or-whatever in a
suitable case? How much? When? In what form?

Very exciting.


On 22 Apr 2015, at 14:59, Andrew Park  wrote:

Interested to see some more information on this, will it be a DIY sam or 
produced?


Andy


From: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On 
Behalf Of Kurt K

Sent: 22 April 2015 17:34
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

Where do we find more information?  I'd love to get one.  I'll have to look 
closer on Velesoft's website.


On Apr 22, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Leszek Chmielewski  wrote:

How much will it cost?

On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 5:29 PM, VELESOFT  wrote:
It's first version of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2:

http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6E.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6A.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6D.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6B.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6C.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6G.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6H.JPG

VELESOFT

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Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

[Aleš Keprt]

Sorry, I am pessimistic here. I don't like this design. I don't like the 
look of the original Sam Coupe either, why the hell would anybody want to 
clone it? In my opinion it's weird, it's a waste of effort and skills. And 
why 3.5" floppy diskettes? Another weird thing here. It's 2014, not 1984! I 
would definitely prefer a standard PC keyboard and a computer in a separate 
box, with flash memory cards (of any easily implementable type) instead of 
the current design.


Best regards,
Aley


-Původní zpráva- 
From: VELESOFT

Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 11:10 PM
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

New computer compatible with sam coupe and ZX128. Contain real CPU Zilog 
Z80,
and CPLD chip instead old ASIC. Real SAA1099 and AY chip,... Don't contain 
any

modern PIC,ARM. Price is unknown, all is in development.

VELESOFT

- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Harte" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 11:01 PM
Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2


It reflects poorly on me but Spanish isn't one of my languages. What sort of
machine is it? A genuine hardware compatible or just a Pi-or-whatever in a
suitable case? How much? When? In what form?

Very exciting.


On 22 Apr 2015, at 14:59, Andrew Park  wrote:

Interested to see some more information on this, will it be a DIY sam or 
produced?


Andy


From: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On 
Behalf Of Kurt K

Sent: 22 April 2015 17:34
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

Where do we find more information?  I'd love to get one.  I'll have to 
look closer on Velesoft's website.


On Apr 22, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Leszek Chmielewski  
wrote:


How much will it cost?

On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 5:29 PM, VELESOFT  wrote:
It's first version of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2:

http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6E.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6A.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6D.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6B.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6C.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6G.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6H.JPG

VELESOFT

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Re: {Spam?} Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

[Leslie Anderson]

Hi.

When will this be finished and are you planning to sell them ??

2015-04-22 19:38 GMT+01:00 VELESOFT :

> More info about configuration:
>
>
> http://www.va-de-retro.com/foros/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1898&sid=0cc9b1b1b88f4cb0c3e5d815ea804e03&start=30#p46413
>
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Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

[VELESOFT]

I have main board incomplete, in development. First testing will be on this
board ...
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/multiinterface_001.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/multiinterface_002.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/multiinterface_003.JPG

I can't know time, theoretically end of this year..

VELESOFT

- Original Message -
From: "Kurt K" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 11:27 PM
Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2


Do you have a rough time estimate when we might see it.  Six months, a year,
longer?

Sent from my iPhone


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Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

[David Austen]

I have to say, I don't like the carbonfibre look - i'd prefer a white 
stippled spray paint.  Case looks good though - this is the first I've 
seen/heard of this, is there some kind of SAM clone board in development 
somewhere?


Dave

On 22/04/2015 16:29, VELESOFT wrote:

It's first version of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2:

http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6E.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6A.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6D.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6B.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6C.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6G.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6H.JPG

VELESOFT

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Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

[Kurt K]

Do you have a rough time estimate when we might see it.  Six months, a year, 
longer?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 22, 2015, at 4:10 PM, "VELESOFT"  wrote:
> 
> New computer compatible with sam coupe and ZX128. Contain real CPU Zilog Z80, 
> and CPLD chip instead old ASIC. Real SAA1099 and AY chip,... Don't contain 
> any modern PIC,ARM. Price is unknown, all is in development.
> 
> VELESOFT
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Thomas Harte" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 11:01 PM
> Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
> 
> 
> It reflects poorly on me but Spanish isn't one of my languages. What sort of 
> machine is it? A genuine hardware compatible or just a Pi-or-whatever in a 
> suitable case? How much? When? In what form?
> 
> Very exciting.
> 
>> On 22 Apr 2015, at 14:59, Andrew Park  wrote:
>> 
>> Interested to see some more information on this, will it be a DIY sam or 
>> produced?
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> 
>> From: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On 
>> Behalf Of Kurt K
>> Sent: 22 April 2015 17:34
>> To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
>> Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
>> 
>> Where do we find more information?  I'd love to get one.  I'll have to look 
>> closer on Velesoft's website.
>> 
>> On Apr 22, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Leszek Chmielewski  wrote:
>> 
>> How much will it cost?
>> 
>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 5:29 PM, VELESOFT  wrote:
>> It's first version of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2:
>> 
>> http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6E.JPG
>> http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6A.JPG
>> http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6D.JPG
>> http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6B.JPG
>> http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6C.JPG
>> http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6G.JPG
>> http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6H.JPG
>> 
>> VELESOFT
>> 
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Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

[VELESOFT]

New computer compatible with sam coupe and ZX128. Contain real CPU Zilog Z80, 
and CPLD chip instead old ASIC. Real SAA1099 and AY chip,... Don't contain any 
modern PIC,ARM. Price is unknown, all is in development.


VELESOFT

- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Harte" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 11:01 PM
Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2


It reflects poorly on me but Spanish isn't one of my languages. What sort of 
machine is it? A genuine hardware compatible or just a Pi-or-whatever in a 
suitable case? How much? When? In what form?


Very exciting.


On 22 Apr 2015, at 14:59, Andrew Park  wrote:

Interested to see some more information on this, will it be a DIY sam or 
produced?


Andy


From: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On 
Behalf Of Kurt K

Sent: 22 April 2015 17:34
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

Where do we find more information?  I'd love to get one.  I'll have to look 
closer on Velesoft's website.


On Apr 22, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Leszek Chmielewski  wrote:

How much will it cost?

On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 5:29 PM, VELESOFT  wrote:
It's first version of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2:

http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6E.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6A.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6D.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6B.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6C.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6G.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6H.JPG

VELESOFT

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Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

[Thomas Harte]

It reflects poorly on me but Spanish isn't one of my languages. What sort of 
machine is it? A genuine hardware compatible or just a Pi-or-whatever in a 
suitable case? How much? When? In what form?

Very exciting.

> On 22 Apr 2015, at 14:59, Andrew Park  wrote:
> 
> Interested to see some more information on this, will it be a DIY sam or 
> produced?
>  
> Andy
>  
>  
> From: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On 
> Behalf Of Kurt K
> Sent: 22 April 2015 17:34
> To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
> Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2
>  
> Where do we find more information?  I'd love to get one.  I'll have to look 
> closer on Velesoft's website.
> 
> On Apr 22, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Leszek Chmielewski  wrote:
> 
> How much will it cost?
>  
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 5:29 PM, VELESOFT  wrote:
> It's first version of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2:
> 
> http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6E.JPG
> http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6A.JPG
> http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6D.JPG
> http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6B.JPG
> http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6C.JPG
> http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6G.JPG
> http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6H.JPG
> 
> VELESOFT
> 
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RE: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

[Andrew Park]

Interested to see some more information on this, will it be a DIY sam or 
produced?

 

Andy

 

 

From: owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no [mailto:owner-sam-us...@nvg.ntnu.no] On 
Behalf Of Kurt K
Sent: 22 April 2015 17:34
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

 

Where do we find more information?  I'd love to get one.  I'll have to look 
closer on Velesoft's website.


On Apr 22, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Leszek Chmielewski  wrote:

How much will it cost?

 

On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 5:29 PM, VELESOFT  wrote:

It's first version of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2:

http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6E.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6A.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6D.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6B.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6C.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6G.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6H.JPG

VELESOFT

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{Spam?} Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

[VELESOFT]

More info about configuration:

http://www.va-de-retro.com/foros/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1898&sid=0cc9b1b1b88f4cb0c3e5d815ea804e03&start=30#p46413



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Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

[VELESOFT]

No idea about price. Yet is all in development. Board without case will cheaper.

VELESOFT
  - Original Message -
  From: Leszek Chmielewski
  To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 5:50 PM
  Subject: Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2


  How much will it cost?



  On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 5:29 PM, VELESOFT  wrote:

It's first version of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2:

http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6E.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6A.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6D.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6B.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6C.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6G.JPG
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6H.JPG

VELESOFT

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Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

[Kurt K]

Where do we find more information?  I'd love to get one.  I'll have to look 
closer on Velesoft's website.

> On Apr 22, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Leszek Chmielewski  wrote:
> 
> How much will it cost?
> 
>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 5:29 PM, VELESOFT  wrote:
>> It's first version of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2:
>> 
>> http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6E.JPG
>> http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6A.JPG
>> http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6D.JPG
>> http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6B.JPG
>> http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6C.JPG
>> http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6G.JPG
>> http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6H.JPG
>> 
>> VELESOFT
>> 
>> ---
>> Tato zpráva byla zkontrolována na viry programem Avast Antivirus.
>> http://www.avast.com
> 

Re: Prototype of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2

[Leszek Chmielewski]

How much will it cost?

On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 5:29 PM, VELESOFT  wrote:

> It's first version of case for planed new computer SAM COUPE 2:
>
> http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6E.JPG
> http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6A.JPG
> http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6D.JPG
> http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6B.JPG
> http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6C.JPG
> http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6G.JPG
> http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/SAMCASE_6H.JPG
>
> VELESOFT
>
> ---
> Tato zpráva byla zkontrolována na viry programem Avast Antivirus.
> http://www.avast.com
>
>