Greetings ...
Does anyone know of a document that gives details on how to set up Bind
9 and DHCPD 3.x so that dns is updated when clients log on?
I saw this is not in the howto collection
(http://www.bibsyst.no/samba/docs/man/DNSDHCP.html#id2981727) so I was
kind of hoping someone else has
But if I user lowercase, it works. I wasn't aware of a restriction on
creating uppercase usernames. Is this supposed to happen?
Anyone else know why my machine accounts aren't getting migrated?
Pretty please?
Dan,
What flavor of Linux are you using. I just did a migration using Samba
3.0
Hi everyone,
What means parameter [type={domain|local|builtin}] in net groupmap (samba 3.0.0)?
Thanks
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Thomas Hannan wrote:
Hi all,
I'm setting up a number of samba DC's across several branch offices
using the Samba 3.0.0 release's native LDAP support. I'd like to build
some redundancy into my setup, such as having slave LDAP servers in case
the master is down/unavailable. However, when I have
... does not work.
I use the W2k functionality synchronize on my laptop to have up2date
synchronized copies of my files both at the laptop and the file server.
The file server is a P 200 MHz running RH Linux 9.
When on-line the synchronization of files works, except for my swedish
letters
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, Gerald (Jerry) Carter wrote:
The kernel should log the oops in /var/log/messages.
Yeah, its not there. log stops at 11:29:07 the next entry is at 11:47 when
its booting.
We can't be blamed for a kernel oops. If a user space app
can cause the kernel to die, then
Anyone know what could cause all these problems or a straight solution how
to solve them?
Upgraded to 3.0.1, and i still can't add my Samba server to the Windows 2000
domain. Same errors as described in my previous mail.
What information more than the one i supplied could be usefull if i
McKeever Chris wrote:
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:09 , Luiz Fernando Aguiar Leme [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:
Hi all,
on my smb.conf, contents the following lines:
admin users = root claudio roberto
security = server
when this users save or write files on shared folders, they saves with
root:wheels.
This is partly to do with my Tall tale of woe thread...
ive noticed in the past that when its crashed and ive had to restart etc
when the system comes back up i have odles of memory available...
yet seemingly in the space of a few hours the amount available is taken
from 2GB down to 11MB
Hi ,
It will be good if you can paste your krb5.conf and smb.conf with the
mail, so that we can see where you have gone wrong.
But just to double check some basic issues:
1) Are winbind and smb services restarted everytimes you did any changes
to the config files?
2) Since you are using AD mixed
All,
does someone has 3.0.1 Debian Packages ready?
Thank you,
Michael
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Hi Gerry/All,
I've tried running with sh -x but this only provides information on the first few
commands when running configure, I assume the others are being executed in sub shells
(processes). I've also looked at config.log and can't see anything that looks
meaningful or related to the
Hi!
I am getting difficulties in settings of Samba Server, running on SuSE 9.
Please, can youytell me what should I do to make my Linux machine
see the other machines running Windows 2k/XP pro in this domain?
The PDC is Windows 2000 Server with Active Directory.
What I have managed to do already
Hope you can help
I am trying to find out if there is a port of Samba ver3 for SCO Openserver,
as I desperately need to use the ADS features.
Thanks
John Milner
PCI Systems
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Dear All,
I use Redhat 9, Samba 2.2.7a-8.9.0. I have Windows2000 server as a Domain
Controller. I try to use winbind. I followed the document comes with samba.
I can join Win2k domain. The problem is wbinfo does not show the correct
list.
Here is the tail of the result from winbindd -i -d
Do I need to use winbind between pdc and bdc if I'm using LDAP backend?
I have a PDC setup with LDAP master on backend and a BDC with slave LDAP
in another building.I'm just having a problem with getting users to
authenticate and use the BDC for home directories and exactly how to
have W2k clients
Hi,
I'm using tdb and Samba 3.0.0
in /etc/group I have
domadm:x:502:yo,tu
net groupmap
Domain Admins (S-1-5-21-1113206677-1823813211-1234567-512) - domadm
Output of testparm:
Processing section [netlogon]
Processing section [profiles]
Processing section [homes]
Loaded services file
Hello,
I have some directories with colon on my linux server. I want to share
them to windows box.
For example, when i share:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:54:47
In windows i can see this like:
2003-~8!
Is it possible to convert on the fly : to something other, for example
dot?
greetings,
Bart
Dear list,
Is it sufficient to patch my 3.0.0 install to 3.0.1 on my Solaris 9 machine?
Or do I have to recompile the whole lot from scratch? Does the new version
put all the files in the right places, e.g. pam_winbind.so and
libnss_winbind.so? (I think the HOWTO still says you have to copy
Ah! I've made a discovery, if I put the NT user I am trying to log in as
into /etc/passwd then it will allow me to log in with the user's NT
password. This isn't supposed to be the way it works right? I shouldn't
have to have the users in /etc/passwd, that's the whole point of winbind,
right?
I tried today to setup WinXP Pro to logon to my Linux Domain Server running
RedHat Enterprise 2.1 with samba version 2.2.8a. WinXP is complaining it
can not locate the domain server or is unable to authenticate with the
server. Everything is working fine for Win9x, Win2k, and WinNT
systems.
The issue was a bug in the PrintPro export function of printers,
their printer/CUPS setup utility. The solution (from the PrintPro
support group) was to use
cupsaddsmb -v -U root PRINTERNAME
PrintPro says their export function will be fixed next release.
Grant Basham (305)361-4026
What I would recommend instead, is to ditch Bind.
Use djbdns from http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/ for name resolution. It is
(relatively) simple to migrate to and it is much better than Bind.
Then use this script:
http://www.thismetalsky.org/magic/projects/dhcp_dns.html to update DNS
when the
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| not trying to aportion blame here. Just trying to get
| the good old stable server back :/ was wondering if anyone
| else has had anything like this before?
I wasn't on the defensive. Just stating that it would
have to
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Gerald (Jerry) Carter wrote:
I wasn't on the defensive. Just stating that it would
have to a kernel bug in this case (one that I've not see
come up before). It is possilbe that a hardware
component is failing (e.g. RAM).
sorry i didnt mean it to come across like
Have you done the reg editing bit?
i noticed the same thing, drove me nuts until i realised i edited the
wrong one.
http://www.ccs.uky.edu/docs/samba.htm - nice doc for getting pro onto
samba.
Ross McInnes
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Patrick Shoaf wrote:
I tried today to setup WinXP Pro to logon
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| Repeatedly getting the following error, any help out there for this? I've
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Kent L. Nasveschuk wrote:
| Do I need to use winbind between pdc and bdc if I'm
| using LDAP backend?
On a Samba DC, Winbindd is only needed when the DC's have
established trusts with other domains (and you need
winbindd to generate accounts for the
Ah! I've made a discovery, if I put the NT user I am trying to log in as
into /etc/passwd then it will allow me to log in with the user's NT
password. This isn't supposed to be the way it works right? I shouldn't
have to have the users in /etc/passwd, that's the whole point of winbind,
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Dan wrote:
| The RedHat RPMS were always available as single RPMS
| why aren't the Fedora binaries the same?
We are attempting to working more closely with the
current Fedora Package maintainers.
cheers, jerry
~
Hello,
This morning I upgraded two machines to samba 3.0.1 (from version
3.0.0). One machine is a member of our production Windows 2000 Active
Directory. The other is a member of our test Windows 2003 Active
Directory. I made no changes to the smb.conf file after doing the
upgrade.
Dear List
i have setup a samba server with a openldap backend (using the great
guide from hilinsk and Gerald's ldap system adminstration book)
I also have the unix account information stored in the ldap.
Current setup
samba 3.01 rc1
latest stable openldap on the same box
unix/samba accounts
Okay, we have the net groupmap command running without errors. We had to add the
unixgroup/gid to both the /etc/group file and samba's openldap before groupmap would
work without errors. I suspect that we could remove the dependence on /etc/group by
modifying nsswitch.conf to add ldap for group
Hello,
I'm having problems using Samba as an primary domain controller. I am
using debian woody as our platform.
The version of samba is 2.2.3a-12.3 for Debian and i followed the
instructions which can be found on the following url:
From: Patrick Shoaf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I tried today to setup WinXP Pro to logon to my Linux Domain Server running
RedHat Enterprise 2.1 with samba version 2.2.8a. WinXP is complaining it
can not locate the domain server or is unable to authenticate with the
server. Everything is working fine
My server is a pdc on debian linux and is running with a windows 2000
member server that is hosting software for a flower shop. The windows
servers and all the workstations are freezing about twice an hour and stay
froze for about 2-5 minutes. They do not lock up at the same time but
usually
question 1
We have a corporate wide iplanet ldap server (which i can only read
from) used for email. I tried to sync the passwords from this
ldap-server with the samba-openldap one so my samba users only would
have to remember one password. I used a script that fetches the
(encrypted,
Le Tuesday 16 December 2003 17:12, Eduard Witteveen a écrit :
Hello,
I'm having problems using Samba as an primary domain
controller. I am using debian woody as our platform.
The version of samba is 2.2.3a-12.3 for Debian and i
followed the instructions which can be found on the following
Fabien Chevalier wrote:
Relevant information is generally in /var/log/samba/log.NETBIOSNAME.
I cannot find this file. I did the following steps:
- Stopped the samba deamon
- Removed all the logging from the /var/log/samba directory
- Started the samba deamon
- Tried to join the domain again
All,
The Windows 2000 client is on my side of the firewall (the error message is:
remote computer is not available), the Windows XP client is on the other side of the
firewall, (the error message is: The specified network name is no longer available).
I am able to ping both the IP
Adam Williams wrote:
question 1
We have a corporate wide iplanet ldap server (which i can only read
from) used for email. I tried to sync the passwords from this
ldap-server with the samba-openldap one so my samba users only would
have to remember one password. I used a script that fetches
Hello,
I'm having problems with user names containing a dot. For example
j.smith.
In our network we have Win2K PDC and a Samba server. smb.conf contains
this:
[global]
security = domain
password server = MYSERVER
username map = /etc/samba/smbusers
[myshare]
valid users = j.smith
write list =
Adam Williams wrote:
[snip]
I'm using the smbldap-passwd.pl tool. If i use
this tool directly from the command line it does update the userpassword
just fine. (using the same syntax as in the smb.conf.
When i turn sync unix passwords then the domain stops working (domain
not foud)
That
Uhm, if you mean have I configured /etc/nsswitch.conf, yes the important
lines look like this -
Passwd: files winbind
Group: files winbind
Hosts: files dns
-Original Message-
From: Adam Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 16 December 2003 13:58
To: Ganguly, Sapan
Cc: '[EMAIL
Am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2003 11:10 schrieb John Milner:
I am trying to find out if there is a port of Samba ver3 for SCO
Openserver, as I desperately need to use the ADS features.
Use the SOURCE, Luke...:-)
Suppose what you need is gcc
hth
dan
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I would like to know how to achieve a hot-failover setup between a Samba
3.x.x primary domain controller and backup domain controller with a LDAP
backend. I was under the impression that all I need to specify is something
like the following in my smb.conf:
passdb backend =
Hi!
I've just searching the list archives but cannot solve my problem with
mounting samba (v3.0) shares back on linux (RH 8.0 and 9).
Mounting on Win clients works fine and any filenames (including long
names with non-ascii chars and spaces) are perfictly supported and accessed.
Mounting the
You may want to search for a recent thread on the list that can guide
you in resolving the kerberos failure. I think the subject line was
Windows 2000 and kerberos...
Tim
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From: James R. Trater [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 4:05 pm
Subject:
...
I used the latest and greatest SuSE 9.0 Professional...
I then installed all the latest patches via YaST. That
gives me a kernel of 2.4.21 (-144 in SuSE speak) and
Samba 2.2.8a
I had the configuration backed up on another box, so I
used that as the base for Samba 2.2.8a. I have
Thank you all. I figured there was some tweaking that had to be done. The
info you provided and the link to http://www.ccs.uky.edu/docs/samba.htm
proved to be just what the doctor ordered. Thanks again for all the help.
Patrick Shoaf
At 11:12 AM 12/16/2003, Rob MacGregor wrote:
From:
I am running on RedHat, but everything should be same on server side. Try
adding the following lines into the smb.conf file:
password level = 8
username level = 8
encrypt passwords = yes
smb passwd file = /etc/samba/smbpasswd
unix password sync = yes
pam password change = yes
obey pam
Hi, first thank for this answer :o)
What do you meen by :
You must have the posixAccount LDAP definition in the LDAP directory.
Having it /etc/group won't help at all... That's why you have a «No such
object» error in Samba logs.
I've just used your example :
dn: cn=domusers, ou=Group,
Hello everyone,
I have a redhat 9 server running with Samba 3.0. It's a bit different than
the previous version, but I'm finally getting used to it. Here's my biggest
issue: This is a server for approx. 15 clients, all but one running WinXP.
Previously, we were running 2.2.8 w/ Win2K clients.
Changing from Yes to No these options ( dos filetime dos filetime
resolution) don't change anything. As none of possible combinations...
At 20:47 13/12/2003, you wrote:
What happens when you set both of those options to No?
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DATE: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 09:05:21
I put a Samba server in small office (6 users) that has 1.5 Terabytes of storage
space. They are unique in that they need the space because they do a lot with video,
but with the limited amount users I went with an IDE solution. I am a little worried
about physical damage to the equipment and
Thanks, guess I don't need it then. I wasn't quite sure what the full
function was for winbindd.
On Tue, 2003-12-16 at 10:01, Gerald (Jerry) Carter wrote:
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Kent L. Nasveschuk wrote:
| Do I need to use winbind between pdc and bdc if I'm
|
HP-UX defaults nflocks at 200. At the default, you will run out of
locks at about 20 client connections. You will need to bump nflocks and
nfiles before trying to run at average usage levels.
Eric Roseme
Hewlett-Packard
Jérôme Fenal wrote:
Foster, Ian (LogicaCMG) wrote:
We are in the
I run samba 2.2.8a on my openbsd 3.4 box, installed from a package.
All i need is the ability to mount disks form winxp boxes so i only run
smbd, at 139/tcp.
I tried scanning the box with nessus, and it came up with some results
that got me curious.
Since i dont know very much about the smb
Hi,
I can't find any documentation for this paramter, other than knowing it has
been removed in 3. I can't install 3 yet, so for now I want to know what
this parameter does.
Thanks
Paul
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I am a technology coordinator for a school in Western Ohio, and I am
wanting to log print jobs to a file for review (ensuring students and
staff) are utilizing our equipment properly (At the request of my boss).
I found this in a thread..but I need some more information...or clearer
instructions.
I am using lpd I think. My smb.conf file reads printing=lprng. /shrug.
I hope that helps.
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Hello,
I'm still trying to get this straightened out.
I have the following system:
System description
RedHat 8.0
LDAP 2.1.23
Samba 3.0
I have basically 2 BDC that I want users to have home directories on.
These also run LDAP backend as slave servers.
Do all machines using the domain need to
Red Hat AS 3.0 - samba 3.0.0
Existing NT Domain - joined domain with net join command and have SID
have set up LDAP and imported Unix users / passwords and seems to work
fine.
Now - want to set up with samba.schema - my intentions are to make the
samba machine the domain controller and handle
Try setting:
guestaccount = NULL
and
restrict anonymous = yes
in you smb.conf
I had the same problem, and this solved it for me.
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Is it possible to restrict access to a directory within a share for certain
users if the samba server type is domain member.
If so, how?
TIA,
Joel
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When I enable logging level 5 (or even 10)), I don't see any more useful
information. I just see (over and over again):
ldapsam_search_one_group: Problem during the LDAP search: LDAP error:
invalid DN (Invalid DN syntax)
But every one in a while (apparantly not related to my net groupmap
When I mount a smb share that is located on a Win2k machine I get the
following error when I try to browse the directory.
smb_proc_readdir_long: name=, result=-2, rcls=1, err=123
I assume this is talking about the long filenames that are in the
directory I am trying to browse. I have to type ls
Hi, I posted this some time ago but it remained unanswered; sorry for the
repost, but I hope to receive at least some confirmations or otherwise by
other people using WinXP Pro.
Using Samba 2.2.8a, I have a problem on a WinXP Pro client regarding the
read-only attribute on folders; the problem
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But if I user lowercase, it works. I wasn't aware of a restriction on
creating uppercase usernames. Is this supposed to happen?
Anyone else know why my machine accounts aren't getting migrated?
Pretty please?
Dan,
What flavor of Linux are you using.
I'm running
Hi,
We are seeing errors like
change_trust_account_password: Failed to change password for domain
on a server configured with winbind. wbinfo -t reports a good secret and we
can see groups and users. Any idea where this is coming from?
Thanks,
Greg
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Hi, I'm having problems joining a W-XP client to my PCD.
This is on Samba 3.0.1 w/ LDAP passdb, Suse 8.2.
When I join the client to the server, I cannot add the Administrator to
any of the local accounts. Instead I get an error stating that there is
a broken trust relationship between the client
OK.
I've given up on using the 'net vampire' feature to suck our NT4 info.
Now I want to start afresh.
I've set the smb.conf file up, and run the script I found in the HTML
docs to map common Windows Domain groups to unix groups. This worked OK.
Now I want to create a root account so I can
I've got a Samba member server as part of a Windows NT domain. User accounts have the
same name in both domain. I was having all sorts of trouble when winbindd was running
with wierd groups showing up.
I happened to screw up the winbindd configuration without noticing causing it to
crash,
Hi,
winbind is used to import accounts from a windows machine. If all your
accounts already exist on the samba machine then you don't need winbind. If
you had a disjoint set of users on the samba machine and the windows machine
then you would be able to see the union set by using winbind.
Shouldn't I be worried about this? As far as I know I'm using PAM for authentication,
but it seems to be working.
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James R. Trater wrote:
Try setting:
guestaccount = NULL
and
restrict anonymous = yes
in you smb.conf
I had the same problem, and this solved it for me.
Just for the records; it really did the trick.
Nessus reports nothing now!
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Hi all,
I have been working on a multi-domain network (2 of them) with one domain
being controlled by Samba/Openldap config and the other a standard Win2k AD.
I have had success getting all computers on the Samba domain to see the
Win2k controller via the Network browser but it does not seem to
I'm sure you can make this work better if you only use one wins server. If you
are migrating to samba anyway is it an option to at least point everyone to
samba as WINS?
I've never had any luck with remote announce and in any case it will only
announce the server and not any of the other
Ok, here is the problem. Samba is working, I can access it from
a account I created from a windows XP machine. So that is good. But I cant
get swat to work when I go to my browser windows explorer and go to
http://192.168.1.125 http://192.168.1.125/ :901 (which is my static IP
address
Hi All,
I have a member server on debian unstable using 3.0.0.final, member of
2000 AD, in ADS security mode authenticating through winbind.
XP/2000/2003 clients connect to shares OK, NT4 DOS fail (suspect 9x
the same not tested). NOT using NTLM v2.
The logged error is
Hello everybody,
I just installed a samba-3.0.1 from sources, and I have an INTERNAL ERROR when I
launch smbd, nmbd or even swat (from inetd) to try to configure something.
I use a slackware 9.1 with glibc-2.3.2
The glibc seems to be the problem, because when I jump back on a 2.3.1, I can
launch
Swat runs as a separate service, not under the webserver. You need to have it
configured in inetd or xinetd.
Greg
On Tuesday 16 December 2003 22:06, Phillip Tilleman wrote:
Ok, here is the problem. Samba is working, I can access it from
a account I created from a windows XP
Dear All,
Sorry if this question has been posted before but there's no enough answer
to solved my problem and I'm going crazy because of it:(
I'm currently installed Samba-2.2.8a as logon server on My FreeBSD 5.0.
For Win 9.X client there's no problem at all. But when I tried to joining
W2K
Hi Dede,
Just to confirm. You are logged onto the workstation as local administrator
(or a local account with admin privileges) correct? Then you try to join the
domain and when it asks you for the username password you use root and the
root password yes? Have you added the root user in
I have Samba PDC and XP client and i have no problem joining and logging in to the PDC.
After a few tests, i come to notice that each user that logs in to the XP box, will
create his own profile on XP at 'Documents and Settings' folder and those profiles are
copied to the PDC.
when i try to
Hi Greg,
Thanks for your response :)
Yes, I'm logged onto workstation as local administrator and when the system
asked username and password, I put root username and root password.
I've also added root account into samba password database using smbpasswd
-a root
I don't have any idea about
Using RedHAT 9.0 and Samba that came with it.. Samba states it is up and
running..Here is the current samba.conf file.. I can browse from the linux
box and get into the window shares. Can ping the address of the linux
server.. See the workgroup from windows, but no machine or folders
available..
On Tue, 2003-12-16 at 21:38, Mike Tutaj wrote:
Using RedHAT 9.0 and Samba that came with it.. Samba states it is up and
running..Here is the current samba.conf file.. I can browse from the linux
box and get into the window shares. Can ping the address of the linux
server.. See the workgroup
On Tue, 2003-12-16 at 22:10, Dede NURMANSYAH wrote:
Hi Greg,
Thanks for your response :)
Yes, I'm logged onto workstation as local administrator and when the system
asked username and password, I put root username and root password.
I've also added root account into samba password
My last question went unanswered - probably because of the confused way
that I asked it.
I have a new samba server - joined to domain - running LDAP - imported
the local users with the migration script into LDAP - life is good.
Now I want to import the Users and Groups from my domain on WinNT -
It is configured under xinetd. It looks like this.
# default: off
# description: SWAT is the Samba Web Admin Tool. Use swat \
# to configure your Samba server. To use SWAT, \
# connect to port 901 with your favorite web browser.
service swat
{
disable = no
Mike Tutaj wrote:
Using RedHAT 9.0 and Samba that came with it.. Samba states it is up and
running..Here is the current samba.conf file.. I can browse from the linux
box and get into the window shares. Can ping the address of the linux
server.. See the workgroup from windows, but no machine or
I have a network of 2K and XP clients that I am migrating to a domain using Samba 3 as a
PDC. I have the domain working quite well after quite a bit of tweaking. My problem is
that I want people to logon to the domain, but I also want them to keep their profiles
from their local users. How can
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| Hi All,
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| I have a member server on debian unstable using 3.0.0.final, member of
| 2000 AD, in ADS security mode authenticating through winbind.
| XP/2000/2003 clients connect to shares OK, NT4 DOS fail (suspect 9x
| the
Tuesday, December 16, 2003, 7:16:35 AM, Gerald wrote:
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In an attempt to avoid the holiday rush common to software
releases, the Samba Team is proud to announce the availability
of the first patch release of the Samba 3.0 code base.
Anyone having
Craig Jackson wrote:
On Tue, 2003-12-16 at 22:17, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
I have a network of 2K and XP clients that I am migrating to a domain using Samba 3 as a
PDC. I have the domain working quite well after quite a bit of tweaking. My problem is
that I want people to logon to the domain, but
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
I have a network of 2K and XP clients that I am migrating to a domain using Samba 3
as a
PDC. I have the domain working quite well after quite a bit of tweaking. My problem
is
that I want people to logon to the domain, but I also want them to keep
Date: Tue Dec 16 09:01:34 2003
Author: tridge
Update of /home/cvs/samba4/source/build/pidl
In directory dp.samba.org:/tmp/cvs-serv30537
Modified Files:
header.pm
Log Message:
a fairly large commit!
This adds support for bigendian rpc in the client. I have installed
SUN pcnetlink
Date: Tue Dec 16 09:01:43 2003
Author: tridge
Update of /home/cvs/samba4/source/include
In directory dp.samba.org:/tmp/cvs-serv30558
Modified Files:
includes.h rpc_secdes.h smb.h smb_interfaces.h
Log Message:
a fairly large commit!
This adds support for bigendian rpc in the client.
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