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Hello Joseph,
After you succeed in compiling Critter and Stockfish, click on
Tools/Analysis Engine... and follow these steps:
https://sourceforge.net/p/scid/wiki/TheAnalysisEngineList/
Here are the instructions to compile Stockfish on Ubuntu:
Try using scidvspc.
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Hello Fred,
I've submitted the bug:
https://sourceforge.net/p/scid/bugs/69/
One day, I'll be able to fix this kind of issues, but for now I can barely
manage the clerical needs of the SCID project.
Thank you for your patience,
Ben
Where is the appropriate place to make a suggestion?
http://sourceforge.net/p/scid/feature-requests/
I'm noticing icons disappearing as I resize the game window.
That would be a bug:
http://sourceforge.net/p/scid/bugs/
In the PGN Window, D means diagram. I think it appears when you annotate a
game with an engine and leave Mark as tactical exercise checked. A
diagram therefore means there's a tactical exercise.
So there is a relationship between diagrams and dubious moves... B-)
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As a side note, in the Game
Is there a method to add my own personal game summary notes after
reviewing/studying a game to the top of the notation window?
Yes.
From the Comment Editor (CTRL-E), add your comments at the start of the
game, before you play any move. They should appear before the first move.
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Also
Can all UCI engines theoretically annotate?
I think so.
Is there a source/webpage that explains how to activate annotation for
Rybka.
Not specifically.
Here's how I could make Rybka annotate:
First, I went and downloaded the free version:
http://www.rybkachess.com/free/Rybka232a.zip
OK. I think I found the disturbing feature:
I've been trying different analysis engines and noticed that not all of
them annotate.
In SCID, it's possible to open two engines at the same time.
It seems that one can only annotate using the first engine opened.
So the function *Tools/Analysis
Why isn't it sorting? BTW, it doesn't matter which header I choose, none
of the get sorted properly.What is suppose to happen when I click the Date
Header?
Click until you see a little 1. It needs to be the first criteria. If
you click on another column and get a 2, that will be your second
Hello Philip,
After your search, go in
Tools / Export All Filter Games / Export Filter to PGN File
This should get you what you want.
Enjoy SCID!
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I'm attempting to create a book.bin using polyglot-14 and I'm wondering
if I should use any specific parameters to optimize it for SCID?
Since a .bin book is simply a PGN file that has been compacted in a way to
be readable by a chess engine, the parameters should be related to the
chess engine
Hello jk,
I'll try to answer in chunks, as this pushes the limits of my knowledge of
SCID.
Also, I need to check with other versions of SCID to confirm your problems.
I tried to reproduce your behavior by:
- opening Tools / Book Tuning
- selecting Elo2400.bin
- changing the third value (9) to
Jello, jk
Here are some answers.
## 1 ##
Is a book just a collection of User Selected Games
Basically, a chess opening book is a file with opening lines:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_opening_book_(computers)
The format used in SCID is Polyglot:
After enquiring to jk, we isolated the problem:
I see the best move and then go to the game window to move the cursor
over the piece. However, the game window's first choice (the greyed cell)
doesn't match what is shown in the Analysis window.
I asked jk if he had Show Suggested Moves on. He
JK,
Try
Options / Save Options
before trying
File / Open or New
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Alternatively, if you have
Options / Auto-Save Options on Exit
you can exit SCID and reopen it.
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Both solutions work for me. It even works when you specify an USB key.
Best of luck!
Ben
Just caught this:
I tried to access the How to create patches link in the wiki, but
received: Error 403: Create access required.
Will enquire.
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I point at this:
It is hard to think well of such poor communication and insults.
and at this:
Yes - this hack [...]
That is all [1].
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Thanks for this. So playing with FICS conflicts with trial mode.
Therefore, I think we should speak of a FICS mode:
https://sourceforge.net/p/scid/wiki/TrialMode/
I'll try to build on the concept of mode, which seems important to have a
better understanding of SCID.
Thanks!
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To try a
Massimo,
Here is what the PGN window looks like before I try moves in the trial mode:
trial-mode-pgn-window.png
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6spOZ3Tv2a5c2VaUVBBYU8tLUE/edit?usp=drive_web
See what it does when I hit trial AND try a move that has not been played
in the game:
Hello,
This question has been added to the wiki:
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If all goes well, the wiki will be revised this summer.
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I can think of two other ways to view variations, Massimo.
You can add variations to the game by clicking on the V button.
That way, the whole variation is added to the game in annotation, with the
engine's name.
Then you simply need to click at the end of it in the PGN window.
The other way is
Thanks for the report, Massimo.
Let's see if I can't help you out:
If instead I try to use the show analysis windows on the analysis window
I only get a board with the current position, I can't see any variation on
it. If I click with the right button on the analysis window, it gets blank
and
Hello,
In SCID, PGN files are read-only.
To modify a database, first convert it to the SCID format.
I usually do that using two different techniques.
Assuming you have created a new SCID database.
Then, either I do
- Tools/Import File(s) of PGN games;
- Copy the games from the Database
Zukertort Opening for the opening 1.Nf3, not Reti, because the Reti
system is the move order 1.Nf3 d5 2.c4.
I thought Zukertort was 1. Nf3 d5 2. d4 (à la Kramnik) , while Réti was 1.
Nf3 d5 2. c4, the Nimzo-Larsen could be obtained through 1. Nf3 and 2. b3.
Since 1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4 leads to the
The opening is determined by playing a game backward
I agree: the last theorical position classifies the game.
Nf3 d5 c4 is not Reti, if for example white plays d4 somewhere in the
next moves.
The argument is too strong: 1. e4 c5 would not be a Sicilian because one
can transpose into a King's
Hello Fulvio.
My most common searches are by position, by rating, and by ECO. What you
implement is enough for most of my searches. Thanks!
I have a question and a request.
The question is this one. In your video, there are five icons in the game
list window. Your video shows the use of two
Hello Michael,
What would be the steps I'd need to make to reproduce that bug?
Thanks,
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Hello Remco,
In the Help files, under Move Entry, it says that one can enter Null moves
in SCID.
To enter a null move, it says one can click on the two Kings or to push
-- (minus-minus).
I could not reproduce the ways to do so in OSX.
This may mean SCID does not implement this anymore.
Or that
OK, I now could enter a Null move by clicking on the two Kings.
But I needed to uncheck Show Suggested Moves in Options/Moves first.
When Show Suggested Moves is on, clicking on the two Kings on the start
position does nothing.
This may be as it should be, as suggested moves can hinder Null
Wow. you all have *no idea* how to write a makefile
Is that an offer to write one?
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I'm stating a fact:
Many facts, in fact:
- Ya'll have no idea how to use autotools [the title];
- Do you people not know how to actually use autotools to avoid this from
happening? Seriously, this isn't advanced stuff.
- Your makefile is completely inconsistent.
- Wow. you all have *no idea*
Why can't you just admit that your little script is 100% broken?
Because it's not my script.
Because it's not 100% broken.
Because the admission is already in the comment of makefile.conf
Because the admission is implied in the many requests you ignored to
scratch your own itch and produce
How do I donate ?
We (Fulvio) do (does) not accept donations. There's some Kickstarter idea
that would need to be developed. But nothing is certain on that front.
Wikipedia always needs money.
I'm sure Fulvio would appreciate if you'd work on creating an Autoconf'ed
configuration instead of
Dear Jai,
I repeatedly asked you to scratch your own itch. I also asked you if some
search results would have helped. Both fail to qualify as pretending to
know how to solve your problem.
Do you think that please download the latest sources count as a please
restart your computer for newly
Hello balu,
Sorry for the long delay.
I can only answer one of your two questions:
I created a new database but starting the app always bring up only the
'clipbase'..
where can i configure it?
Unless I'm mistaken, the only way to load SCID with a database is to launch
it from the command
Hello Sanjib,
The .bin that you're mentioning are the binary books you wish to use, right?
In that case, the message error usually means that you need to
1. go to Options/Books directory;
2. select the directory where you have your engines books.
3. save your Options.
If that does not suffice,
Hello Patrick,
Sorry about this niggling problem.
To see if there's a problem with your installation, please try to install
Israel's image:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/scid/files/Scid/Scid%204.4/Scid-4.4_OS_X_10.7-10.8.dmg/download
Please try that and report here. If that does not work,
to compile I didn't need to have Apple Xcode, but only Command Line Tools.
Thanks for this!
I've modified the Wiki page accordingly:
1) Go to [Apple Xcode](https://developer.apple.com/xcode/) and install the
command line tools.
https://sourceforge.net/p/scid/wiki/CompileScid
This line
Does this create a DMG?
I think it only creates an App, but that it would not take much to
create an App out of it.
But I don't know how to proceed exactly.
Perhaps Israel could explain that.
Does snack sound package is included?
I don't think so.
create an app inside the subdirectory dist and create a dmg
By create a dmg, Fulvio means do something like this
http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-DMG-File-on-a-Mac
As Fulvio just said when I asked him for confirmation, a dmg is just
a fancier zip file.
Hello Patalex,
If you want to compile Scid, following these three steps might be enough:
First, http://sourceforge.net/p/scid/wiki/GetScid/
Second, install Apple Xcode and Xcode command line tools.
Third, open the terminal, cd into the Scid source code directory and
run the following commands:
A lot of work still need to be done and for the moment i will not work on new
features.
If that's the case, I would suggest that we collect these new features
requests over there:
https://sourceforge.net/p/scid/feature-requests/
This way, those who would like to develop new features should
Damn negation:
A program that is NOT maintained by an active community becomes either a
ghost or a gem.
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Poub,
Sorry for the earlier response. I missed your for tactical training bit.
It looks like you need Toga or Phalanx: when I click on Play/Tactical
game, it tells me
Unable to find engine. Please configure engine with Toga as name,
But the wording gave me the idea to Add a new engine by
Hello,
The only context in which loading a random game would make sense would
when doing tactics.
And even then, we'd need something more robust than that: load a
random game that has not already been solved by the user.
And it would not be in the main menu anyway.
My 2 cents as a trainer,
Seems that there is a precedent to that practice:
With the introduction of Apache 2.1, the Apache httpd project has adopted an
odd-even release strategy, where development happens with alpha and beta
releases assigned an odd-numbered minor version, and its general availability
(stable)
Hello,
Some notes:
- Scrolling does not work when not on the active window.
- Scrolling does not work when viewing a game in the Browsing window.
- The gamelist does not work yet, i.e. the dates are not well-ordered.
- The gamelist does not seem to update newly saved games.
Also, it seems that
Thanks!
Where must we put the /Files folder?
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Hello Fernando,
Since I am writing a FAQ, I'll try to answer in a more general way.
Here is a possible problem you could have:
To import PGN games, the **active database** needs to be either the
Clipbase or a database in Scid format. When your active database is
in PGN format, you will be
Hello,
Sorry for not double checking the links.
Here's what has been pushed so far:
1. The trailing / to Gerardo's has been removed; they all will be
checked, since it seems there are no real conventions: some work only
with it, some work only without it.
2. The typos have been fixed,
pgn4web's author is Paolo Casaschi, not Paolo Casachi.
Thanks! Done.
Added some proofreaders in the acknowledgement.
Some resources for chess engines also been added.
If you don't want to be mentioned, please tell me so.
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Today's experiment should show that this kind of documentation
I took the liberty to add my old tutorial, which I just found back:
http://benstpierre.com/chess/scid/tutorial/introduction.html
It needs to be updated and perhaps included in the wiki, but for now I
think it still works OK.
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This kind of introduction should replace Scid's tutorial, which
Hello again.
The final draft has been released:
https://github.com/bstp/scid-on-the-web/wiki/Resources
I'll delete the G document aforementioned.
Other comments will have to be done via GitHub or via email.
I'll now focus on the Download page.
Thanks for all the feedback!
Bye,
Ben
I started to work on the Download page:
https://github.com/bstp/scid-on-the-web/wiki/Download
Thinking about user cases, I suggest we provide courtesy bases:
- OTB World Champions (Morphy, Fischer)
- Tactical base
- Studies’ base
- Correspondence Wch games
- Famous computer chess games
-
Go on this page:
http://london2013.fide.com/analysis/index.html
Take your mouse over the analysis lines.
You should see a diagram pop-up.
Now **this** would be great.
I believe we almost have something like this already.
You can't, Jai. It's in development.
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Hello again,
The page is on its way to a final draft.
The sentences should now be clear and straightforward.
I've added two resources:
[chess-db.com]: http://chess-db.com/
[ARVES]: http://www.arves.org/English/index.htm
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ARVES made me create a category Chess Variants.
If you know good
Being able to download directly from a website might be nice, e.g.:
ScidBD can download the last games played by someone on ICC and download
directly from Scid.
V. http://chessdb.sourceforge.net/Scid/
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Jai,
Docking is the ability to connect windows together in a way to form
one big, rectangular interface.
This is done by dragging one window onto the main window until it docks.
Steven posted a screenshot earlier.
I can send the screenshots I sent to Steven if you wish to see.
Still waiting for
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=3538838group_id=26963atid=389081
I just tried to answer this, but it seems I can't.
Sent minimooch an email instead, linking to this conversation.
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Here's the list Fulvio sent me:
changes.txt
copying.txt
progref.html
readme.txt
scid-users.txt
standard.txt
thanks.txt
Enjoy,
Ben
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On the 2011-10-27, Fernando Cristancho expressed this wish:
I would like to have for the entire data base the normal time order (olders
first) inverted, that is, newers first This option
does not exist presently in the maintenance window.
Hello,
The suggestions from Justin Mcclure and Fred Mellender have been included.
Yesterday, I mistakenly reported on my progress to Justin alone. Sorry.
Here it is again, in a somewhat shorter form (I had more time).
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The sections of the page are:
- Tutorials
- Chess Games
- Chess
[linking between games in one's DB] might be tricky, for it might mean a
change in the database format. Maybe something to keep in mind for si5?
Chris Bannister has previously asked if there was interest in that matter:
I just stumbled upon this page where there's a zip file for all the
TWIC games to date:
http://www.top-5000.nl/pgn.htm
Here's what it says:
2.2 million quality chess games in PGN format.After 5 years an update with
500,000 new gamesmainly from the archives TWIC. Database is now up to date
Has anybody tried PyChess?
https://sites.google.com/site/pychess/
Has anybody tried Knights?
https://knights.sourceforge.net
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It might be wiser to simply refer to this:
http://www.freechess.org/cgi-bin/Download/FICS_Download_Interface.cgi
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Does anybody have a good resource for computer engines?
I found this:
http://www.schachcomputer.info/
but I don't find this friendly, to say the least.
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others for their
Is there a developer mailing list?
No, I don't think so.
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+1 on Joao's proposals.
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The proposal was not _exactly_ to rename the scidvspc project, but rather
to use it as the base for the new SCID. Whether the current scidvspc
project remains depends on Steven and Sourceforce, but I guess Steven will
soon stop work on it.
And what if the current scidvspc project gets removed:
No, but what does it matter?
It matters insofar as the only reason provided to say that it's not
_exactly_ a rebranding effort *because* the scidvspc would remain
open.
If this argument is unimportant, the whole argument falls apart.
Piling on Fulvio is not the way to pursue a community effort:
A healthy community should rarely need a vote.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSFDm3UYkeEfeature=player_embeddednoredirect=1
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Thomas,
Gherard confirmed this morning:
Yes it's the right place.
Bye,
Ben
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Question: Is there a way for me to save these pgn files as databases to
avoid having to re-open and index them each time?
Yes, there are at least two ways.
Here's the first:
1. Create a new database: File/New. (You might need to select the
appropriate file type here.)
2. From that Scid
Hello again,
Now under the influence of caffeine, I can see that my instructions
had at least one mistake:
in scidvsmac, there is no Database Switcher.
So here's the revised procedure for the second method:
1. Create a new database: File/New (CTRL-N).
2. Open your Pgn file (CTRL-O).
3. Open
Any volunteers?
I could do this.
But we should think about revisiting the whole architecture.
Anyone who takes a look at the source code should know what I mean.
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Hello Thomas,
Are you using Scid on the Go? A great app. I too am addicted.
If that's the case, you might be at the wrong place. Even if Gerhard
is following this mailing list, you might have a better chance to make
him remember of your issue if you post it on his Issues page for his
project:
There also might be a need to recall this:
Let me clear again - Alex contacted me asking how i would merge and manage
the project. I stated to him what i have stated in this thread. He said to me
go and gave me Project admin rights - but now he has changed his tune. So
for the time being,
I think this thread is evidence that there is a strong desire from the user
base to revive the development of scid, and that there are people who are
interested to help out. Count me among those. I guess it is also
uncontroversial that having a larger development community can only benefit
Sorry for the typos. Cordonnier mal chaussé...
Perhaps I should clarify this:
I believe that's where we should discuss.
What I mean is that the discussion is now turning into the
**agreement** and **commitment** phase.
We need to have an summary statement of what's happening and what's
coming
Thank you, Alan, for confirming that there is a need for an agreement
among Scid's developers. I think we're closer to an agreement than the
underling message conveyed by that comment. (This comment should not
have been renamed, btw, since it belongs to the previous thread.)
Since Alan wants
Alan,
Please stop filibustering.
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Alan,
I've just sent you a private email to settle personal matters. Here's
what I'm willing to address publicly:
one cannot have a community of developers work in a single project in two
channels.
This is not ideal, of course. But we're not in an ideal situation.
And what I'm *proposing*
The only person not too happy about this is Fulvio.
If this is formulated in the spirit of a rational inquiry, this could be
considered as an ad populum.
And it would be false, as I'm not happy either.
If this is formulated in the spirit of a political vote, it is irrelevant,
as the die have
If Fulvio wants to take the lead, he should have the chance.
As far as I can see, Steven's another Pascal.
This can't be good.
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I'm a correspondence chess player and I use Scid about 1 to 2 hours
per day to analyse my games, so I really care about usability and
stability. But I do not really care too much how it is achieved, as
long as it works. At the moment I spend quite some time every day
working around the quirks
Hello,
Please remove this page:
http://scid.sourceforge.net/dr_david_kirkby.html
This is irrelevant to the project.
Thanks,
Ben
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A blast from the past:
So I will switch naming of my releases from scid-pg to scid as I have the
right to.
http://www.mail-archive.com/scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net/msg00045.html
Sound familiar?
Yes, but let's forget about the personal.
Hello,
Since Pascal left the project, there are no donate buttons anymore.
I am still unsure of they were properly made at the time.
Your question made me look for information about donations at SF.
I found this, which seems different than the last time I checked:
Thanks, Fulvio
This should be advertized:
those who want to contribute should post a patch on the mailing list clearly
describing the purpose of their code.
with the added precision that the official source starts there:
http://scid.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=scid/scid;a=tree
With regard to the specific scid unique game id I was thinking more of a
unique game id within the context of a scid database rather than a global id.
With that in mind, if you continue to use the game number (the relative
position in the index file) for linking between the database files
Could that be fixed?
I would like to maintain Scid's documentation on SF.
While waiting for the administrative process to run its course, I'll
reproduce the documentation from my own website.
Then I'll start to work on it.
Hello,
I was wondering if there was a simple way to uniquely reference a game in a
scid database which doesn't break after compacting ?
The short answer is no: Scid does not provide rigid identificators.
When I export a set of games for use in another application I would like to
keep a
I suppose an internal scid unique number is out of the question because of
database merges etc. ?
As I recall it, the issues were size and speed, coupled with the need
to create an online repository that could act as the equivalent of a
DOI or ISBN for chess games, at least for Scid's sake.
Mainline Scid nowadays is Pascal's fork.
Says who?
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Steven stevena...@yahoo.com wrote:
Fulvio wrote
My fork??
As far as i know, this is the current scid code:
http://scid.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=scid/scid;a=summary
Mainline Scid nowadays is
What's the point of this?
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