Re: RockyEL list archives appear to be behind a paywall

2020-12-31 Thread Yasha Karant
I believe you may have misunderstood what I wrote. Oliver Heaviside had NO formal academic diplomata, but was fully professional with the necessary credentials as demonstrated by knowledge, understanding, and skills -- including making fundamental contributions to mathematics, engineering,

Re: RockyEL list archives appear to be behind a paywall

2020-12-31 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 2:19 PM Yasha Karant wrote: > > I fully agree concerning an engineering background. > > However, any good practitioner (with, like Heaviside, credentials > equivalent to both academic intellectual education and practical field > experience, irrespective of formal diplomata

Re: RockyEL list archives appear to be behind a paywall

2020-12-31 Thread Yasha Karant
I respectfully disagree. Some users can take a "wait and see attitude" -- let us see how distro X (for any X) that is "new" or "developing" evolves. It may, or may not, meet our needs. Others, of which the HEP community (as with Fermilab and CERN) are prime examples, have to plan ahead and

Re: RockyEL list archives appear to be behind a paywall

2020-12-31 Thread Yasha Karant
I fully agree concerning an engineering background. However, any good practitioner (with, like Heaviside, credentials equivalent to both academic intellectual education and practical field experience, irrespective of formal diplomata -- today, the diploma seems the most important and a

Re: RockyEL list archives appear to be behind a paywall

2020-12-31 Thread Jon Pruente
RE: "paywall" This is part of the Rocky team itself and their infrastructure being literally in development. They know and understand these issues and are working to overcome them. They are a team that is growing and overcoming early mistakes and limitations, and admitting to them. That is

Re: RockyEL list archives appear to be behind a paywall

2020-12-31 Thread Lamar Owen
On 12/31/20 12:05 AM, Yasha Karant wrote: ... It is difficult, but not impossible, to have a distro that does not have computer science and engineering professionals ... doing the implementation that is suitable for "hardened" production use, including converting a distribution source into a

Re: RockyEL list archives appear to be behind a paywall

2020-12-31 Thread Jon Pruente
On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 11:06 PM Yasha Karant wrote: > Beef: Slang. a complaint. > an argument or dispute. > > I do not have a complaint, argument, or dispute with Rocky EL or any > other distro, enthusiast, "enterprise", or supported for fee. The > issues are suitability, currency,