RE: question regarding the future

2019-12-21 Thread n0rg
Subject: Re: question regarding the future Try Springdale Linux (formerly PUIAS), it was started long before CentOS. PU-IAS = Princeton University - Institute for Advanced Study https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__springdale.math.ias.edu_=DwIDaQ=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA

Re: question regarding the future

2019-05-03 Thread Tom H
On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 5:59 PM Mark Rousell wrote: > On 03/05/2019 08:19, Tom H wrote: >> >> Red hat can limit access to its source RPMs to its paying customers >> and prevent free rebuilds > > Although Red Hat have an extensive end user licence agreement, it is > generally accepted that no terms

Re: question regarding the future

2019-05-03 Thread Mark Rousell
On 03/05/2019 17:51, Olek Proskurowski wrote: Unless IBM decides to charge "modest" download fee.

Re: question regarding the future

2019-05-03 Thread Mark Rousell
On 03/05/2019 08:19, Tom H wrote: Red hat can limit access to its source RPMs to its paying customers and prevent free rebuilds Whilst it is true that Red Hat could legitimately limit access to its source code to authorised users of its software, I don't think this could or would prevent free

RE: Re[2]: question regarding the future

2019-05-03 Thread Bill Maidment
hursday 2nd May 2019 21:48 > To: David Sommerseth > Cc: scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov > Subject: Re[2]: question regarding the future > > I know it's two words, it has become muscle memory for some reason > to type redhat instead of Red Hat or maybe because of seeing seeing &

Re: question regarding the future

2019-05-03 Thread Tom H
On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 11:17 PM David Sommerseth wrote: > First of all, it is Red Hat (two words) :) Yes! :) > But I don't really understand this Red Hat scepticism. Anti-corporate world attitude? > What would Red Hat, even from a commercial standpoint, win by > crippling CentOS or its

Re[2]: question regarding the future

2019-05-02 Thread Maarten
I know it's two words, it has become muscle memory for some reason to type redhat instead of Red Hat or maybe because of seeing seeing the domain redhat.com come across my screen alot :) I see your point as in why would Red Hat want to cause users to move from rpm based distros to deb based

Re: question regarding the future

2019-05-01 Thread David Sommerseth
On 27/04/2019 14:15, Maarten wrote: > Hello fellow SL users, > > I having been using SL for a while now, after the CentOS project became > part of Redhat I was glad that I was using SL because I would think that > CentOS would become a middle testing ground for Redhat to test new things, >

Re: question regarding the future

2019-05-01 Thread sl+users
From: David Sommerseth On 28/04/2019 22:42, Orion Poplawski wrote: > On 4/28/19 11:03 AM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 02:15:42PM +0200, Maarten wrote: >>> Hello fellow SL users, >>> I having been using SL for a while now, ... >>> there will be no SL8... >>> the future

Re: question regarding the future

2019-04-29 Thread Brett Viren
Bill Maidment writes: > If anything does go awry in the future, I do not see major science > institutions sitting back and doing nothing about it. Maybe even SL > would then arise again? Call it Phoenix? My personal guess is that it would be difficult, if not impossible, to again create a Linux

Re: question regarding the future

2019-04-28 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 4/28/19 11:03 AM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 02:15:42PM +0200, Maarten wrote: Hello fellow SL users, I having been using SL for a while now, ... there will be no SL8... the future [?] I look at the future throught the mirror of today's problems. And today's

Re: question regarding the future

2019-04-28 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 02:15:42PM +0200, Maarten wrote: > Hello fellow SL users, > I having been using SL for a while now, ... > there will be no SL8... > the future [?] I look at the future throught the mirror of today's problems. And today's problems in the RH/CentOS/SL universe do not

RE: question regarding the future

2019-04-28 Thread Bill Maidment
; Sent: Sunday 28th April 2019 3:55 > To: scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov > Subject: Re: question regarding the future > > I still find it uncertain of what might happen in the future, changes > can take more then a couple of years to develop. > Also with IBM having boug

Re: question regarding the future

2019-04-27 Thread Steven Haigh
I think this misses the point. SL was a major 'security blanket' for the uncertainty that was happening with RedHat essentially taking control of CentOS. People were not sure which way things were going to go, so SL filled the gap. As time has passed, RedHat has done the right thing so far

Re: question regarding the future

2019-04-27 Thread John Holmes
Try Springdale Linux (formerly PUIAS), it was started long before CentOS. PU-IAS = Princeton University - Institute for Advanced Study

question regarding the future

2019-04-27 Thread Maarten
Hello fellow SL users, I having been using SL for a while now, after the CentOS project became part of Redhat I was glad that I was using SL because I would think that CentOS would become a middle testing ground for Redhat to test new things, getting the idea SL would stay closer to the