date:20100710

I think that their days are numbered. They still haven't figured out their
niche in the market. They keep updating their stores to appeal to the masses
but have forgotten about the geek crowd. I went there a couple of weeks ago
for a fuse and they only had very small selection. Despite that I still find
myself going there when I need a cable or something.

Depending on the store's location they can do a brisk business. The radio
shack near my house is fairly busy despite being in the same mini mall as a
Super Target because Target doesn't cover everything that's needed. (things
like solder or electrical tape etc.)

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 11:15 PM, George Arterberry
brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com wrote:

I'm perplexed how Radio Shack survives. I pass by the one in my area and
its alwys empty. You go there for batteries and little do dats but little
else. Then along the way the staff became very aggresive to say the least.

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*To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sat, July 10, 2010 7:41:52 AM
*Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] 10 Brands that may disappear in 2011

I agree with all of the items on this list. I think that the companies that
are in trouble got too fat and lazy during the good years to switch gears
during the melt down. Most companies seem to never plan far enough ahead for
the What ifs? I don't get it.

For example, Blockbuster had the chance to beat Netflix to the punch. They
had the money and resources to create something that was cutting edge. By
the time Netflix went public there were 10 other companies with similar
business plans out there. (a few of them were based here in the bay area
too) Blockbuster waited years after Netflix killed off most of their
competition to enter on the field late with poor implementation. Most of the
retail blockbuster stores are gone now. Only about 1/5th of the stores in
this area are still open. The article mentioned that they may end up closing
down all of their stores soon.

Another example is Longs Drugs. They aren't on this list because they have
already folded. They were a Northern California based chain that had 500
stores in 10 states and were expanding up until the .com years. (they were
literally at war with Walgreens) In 2003, the head of the chain stepped down
and the people that were left began to see what a huge mess the company was.
$2Billion a year in sales and they couldn't pay their suppliers? They
eventually went through 5 or 6 new CEOs before they were eventually sold to
CVS pharmacy in 2008. The last CEO at least attempted to restructure things
and stop the hemorrhaging but by then the best option left was to sell.

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.
comravena...@yahoo.com
wrote:

When I see an article like this I always think of the futuristic movie
Bladerunner where most of the companies of the future no longer exist.

(from Wikipedia) RCA, which at one time was the United States' leading
consumer electronics and communications conglomerate, was bought out by
one-time parent GE in 1985, and dismantled. Atari, which dominated the home
video game market when the film came out, never recovered from the next
year's downturn in the industry, and by the 1990s had ceased to represent
anything more than a brand, a back catalogue of games and some legacy
computers. Atari today is an entirely different firm, using the former
company's name. Cuisinart similarly went bankrupt in 1989, though it lives
on under new ownership. The Bell System monopoly was broken up that same
year, and most of the resulting Regional Bell operating companies have since
changed their names and merged back with each other and other companies to
form the new ATT. Pan Am suffered the terrorist bombing/destruction of Pan
Am Flight 103 and after a decade of mounting losses, finally went bankrupt
in 1991 with the falloff in overseas travel caused by the Gulf War.

~rave?

http://finance. yahoo.com/ banking-budgetin g/article/ 110018/10-
brands-that- may-disappear-
in-2011http://finance.yahoo.com/banking-budgeting/article/110018/10-brands-that-may-disappear-in-2011

24/7 Wall St. has created a new list of brands that may disappear, which
includes Readers Digest, Kia Motors, Dollar Thrifty, Zale , Blockbuster,
T-Mobile, BP Plc , RadioShack , Merrill Lynch and Moody's.

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Re: [scifinoir2] Eureka and Haven on SyFy Tonight

Having seen the latter, Keith, I'm sure. Makes me wonder how a network as
incompetent as Siffy can field anything like Haven. It's smart,
nicely-paced and has characters I want to know more about. Siffy will move
it, once it becomes a hit, to anchor another night. And I'll follow it.

As for Eureka... I like. I LIKE. [?][?][?][?]

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:



 I've loved the commercials for Eureka, such as the one showing the nerdy
 dude as a Terminator, standing in the buff trying to look menacing, or the
 ones that show Carter and companies in a 40s era noir setting.  Not sure
 about haven yet. Looks okay, but not sure what makes it so much better
 than shows they've canceled early, like The Dresden Files.





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 http://www.syfy.com/haven/about.php



 Syfy's all-new one-hour drama series *Haven*, starring Emily Rose (*
 Jericho*, *Brothers and Sisters*) is based on the novella *The Colorado
 Kid* from renowned author Stephen King. The series follows the shrewd and
 confident FBI agent Audrey Parker (Rose) who has a lost past, and arrives in
 the small town of Haven, Maine on a routine case. Before long, her natural
 curiosity lands her in the epicenter of activity in this curious enclave,
 which turns out to be a longtime refuge for people that are affected by a
 range of supernatural afflictions.

 As the townspeople's dormant abilities begin to express themselves, Audrey
 helps keep these forces at bay while discovering the many secrets of Haven —
 including one surrounding her own surprising connections to this
 extraordinary place.

 The impressive creative team behind *Haven* includes showrunner Scott
 Shepherd (*Tru Calling*, *The Dead Zone*) who is joined by E1
 Entertainment's John Morayniss (*Hung*, *Copper*) Noreen Halpern (*Hung*,
 *Copper*), Laszlo Barna (*The Bridge*) and Michael Rosenberg (*Hung*, *The
 Riches*) as well as his partners, Executive Producers Lloyd Segan and
 Shawn Piller (*The Dead Zone*, *Wildfire*, *Greek*). The pilot was written
 by Sam Ernst (*The Dead Zone*) and Jim Dunn (*The Dead Zone*) who will
 also serve as executive producers on the series.




  




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Re: [scifinoir2] Free eBooks by Project Gutenberg

Mr Worf, I've been browsing there for about three years now. Picked up a lot
of Tom Swift novels, which hearken back to my childhood.

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Re: [scifinoir2] Flying Car approved by FAA

rave, I don't care about the looks. If I owned it, and did one take-off or
landing in a public place, I've got dates for the next six months. That, on
top of the joy of flying... I'm going to get my license.

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:



 http://www.boingboing.net/2010/07/09/ridiculous-looking-f.html

 Next year, those of you with a sport pilot license and $194,000 to burn
 will be able to buy an honest-to-Doc-Brown flying car. Take-off requires a
 mere 1/3 of a mile runway, which Popular Science says means you could use
 your street as an airstrip—but I suspect that may be illegal.

  




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Re: [scifinoir2] LeBron James The Decision top-ranked show on Thursday night

The across-the-board reaction I'm hearing in this is that, in the public
eye, LeBron had lost a lots of fans over this. And not because he left
Cleveland. I've heard that event described, most charitably, as an
infomercial. Doesn't bother me only because I watch so few NBA games (a
grand total of six this past season, counting the playoffs).

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:




 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/07/09/lebron-james-the-decision-is-top-rated-tv-show-on-thursday/56595

 Thursday night's LeBron James The Decision on ESPN drew a 7.3 household
 rating in the preliminary overnight ratings.
 Compare that to the top rated show on broadcast last night, a repeat of The
 Mentalist on CBS, which drew a 6.0 household rating in the preliminary
 overnights.
 Update: Here is ESPN's official press release.
 A 7.3 is twice what an average NBA game ranks.

  




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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Are Animals Psychic? (Octopus picks World Cup winners)

What the Wise Man said.

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:

I'm reminded of the well stated theorem that, given enough time and
chances, a monkey could type out the completed works of Shakespeare. Of
course, you might have to fill the observable universe with monkeys typing
before one could do so, but it's possible, if not probable. Same here. I
could have put a list of all Star Trek films in front of the beast, and it
might have picked them in order of best to worst.
Maybe they should have put the list of six teams LeBron James was
considering, so they could have marveled if the cephalopod had picked Miami!

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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 9, 2010 7:25:08 PM
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Are Animals Psychic? (Octopus picks World Cup
winners)

The sad thing is that CNN reports this as if it was a real science story.

~(no)rave!

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Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:

There's a lot of assumptions that would have to be made. One, do the
octopus
know what soccer is? If so, does it know the teams and their stats?

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote:

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/SPORT/football/07/08/germany.octopus.explainer/index.html?fbid=uHkk7mCgcdJ

(CNN) -- Paul the octopus, a psychic cephalopod at an aquarium in
Germany,
has become a World Cup phenomenon after correctly predicting the
winners in
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Re: [scifinoir2] 10 Brands that may disappear in 2011

Honestly, the only reason that I know that two of those ten still exist is
because my mother gets Reader's Digest and BP -- well, need I say? Now, if
BP decides to go away of its own accord after ceding all of its corporate
coffers to those affected by the spill, I won't cry...

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

When I see an article like this I always think of the futuristic movie
Bladerunner where most of the companies of the future no longer exist.

~rave?

http://finance.yahoo.com/banking-budgeting/article/110018/10-brands-that-may-disappear-in-2011

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Re: [scifinoir2] 10 Brands that may disappear in 2011

Mr Worf, it's anything BUT that for Radio Shacks in my area. Once, I went
into the one nearest where I live, and there were all of five people in the
store.

And three of them were employees. Of course, I must say that, less than 100
meters away, is a Wal-Mart Supercenter. [?]

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 2:47 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 11:15 PM, George Arterberry
brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com wrote:

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*To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sat, July 10, 2010 7:41:52 AM
*Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] 10 Brands that may disappear in 2011

I agree with all of the items on this list. I think that the companies
that are in trouble got too fat and lazy during the good years to switch
gears during the melt down. Most companies seem to never plan far enough
ahead for the What ifs? I don't get it.

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.
comravena...@yahoo.com
wrote:

When I see an article like this I always think of the futuristic movie
Bladerunner where most of the companies of the future no longer exist.

~rave?

http://finance. yahoo.com/ banking-budgetin g/article/ 110018/10-
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Re: [scifinoir2] Scientists discover antibodies that neutralize over 91 percent of HIV strains

I've got even money saying that, if I had the time to chase this story down
through search engines long enough, I'd find a publishing date at least
fifteen years old. That's about the length of time it takes documents to
work down the chain. More known stuff that could've saved millions of lives,
tucked away by Big Pharma. [?]

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 Scientists discover antibodies that neutralize over 91 percent of HIV
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Re: [scifinoir2] ATT threatening to drop IFC

Don't have U-Verse, Mr Worf, but I've heard the rumor on the whisper-stream.

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 On my tv right now they are scrolling across the screen that ATT Uverse is
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Re: [scifinoir2] Bendable Bicycle Concept

I like that... the fear of bike theft is the only reason I don't have one.

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 July 9th, 2010 | Tech http://www.toxel.com/category/tech/ |

 [image: Bendable Bicycle Concept]

 Innovative bikehttp://www.toxel.com/tech/2010/03/16/treadmill-bike-concept/,
 designed by *Kevin Scott*, comes with a bendable frame that allows the
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 Ratchet system built into the frame enables it to fold around poles and
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 allows the bicycle to be wrapped around a lamp post. Ratchet system built
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Re: [scifinoir2] 10 Brands that may disappear in 2011

I think what is really going to kill Radioshack is the Disposable product
culture. Very few people will bother to fix things nowadays. If it stops
working throw it away and buy a new one.

Just tonight I saw a 42 inch flat screen on freecycle. The people were
trying to get rid of it because it kept turning off. I'm not sure what the
problem is but is it worth the cost of a new tv?

I think I told you guys about Freecycle a while back right? Think of it like
a garage sale but everything is free. Its all over the country at
http://www.Freecycle.org


On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 3:31 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 Mr Worf, it's anything BUT that for Radio Shacks in my area. Once, I went
 into the one nearest where I live, and there were all of five people in the
 store.

 And three of them were employees. Of course, I must say that, less than 100
 meters away, is a Wal-Mart Supercenter. [?]


 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 2:47 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:



 I think that their days are numbered. They still haven't figured out their
 niche in the market. They keep updating their stores to appeal to the masses
 but have forgotten about the geek crowd. I went there a couple of weeks ago
 for a fuse and they only had very small selection. Despite that I still find
 myself going there when I need a cable or something.

 Depending on the store's location they can do a brisk business. The radio
 shack near my house is fairly busy despite being in the same mini mall as a
 Super Target because Target doesn't cover everything that's needed. (things
 like solder or electrical tape etc.)



 On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 11:15 PM, George Arterberry 
 brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com wrote:



 I'm perplexed how Radio Shack survives. I pass by the one in my area and
 its alwys empty. You go there for batteries and little do dats but little
 else. Then along the way the staff  became very aggresive to say the least.

  --
 *From:* Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com
 *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Sat, July 10, 2010 7:41:52 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] 10 Brands that may disappear in 2011



 I agree with all of the items on this list. I think that the companies
 that are in trouble got too fat and lazy during the good years to switch
 gears during the melt down. Most companies seem to never plan far enough
 ahead for the What ifs? I don't get it.

 For example, Blockbuster had the chance to beat Netflix to the punch.
 They had the money and resources to create something that was cutting edge.
 By the time Netflix went public there were 10 other companies with similar
 business plans out there. (a few of them were based here in the bay area
 too) Blockbuster waited years after Netflix killed off most of their
 competition to enter on the field late with poor implementation. Most of the
 retail blockbuster stores are gone now. Only about 1/5th of the stores in
 this area are still open. The article mentioned that they may end up closing
 down all of their stores soon.

 Another example is Longs Drugs. They aren't on this list because they
 have already folded. They were a Northern California based chain that had
 500 stores in 10 states and were expanding up until the .com years. (they
 were literally at war with Walgreens) In 2003, the head of the chain stepped
 down and the people that were left began to see what a huge mess the company
 was. $2Billion a year in sales and they couldn't pay their suppliers? They
 eventually went through 5 or 6 new CEOs before they were eventually sold to
 CVS pharmacy in 2008. The last CEO at least attempted to restructure things
 and stop the hemorrhaging but by then the best option left was to sell.



 On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo. 
 comravena...@yahoo.com
  wrote:

 When I see an article like this I always think of the futuristic movie
  Bladerunner where most of the companies of the future no longer exist.

 (from Wikipedia) RCA, which at one time was the United States' leading
 consumer electronics and communications conglomerate, was bought out by
 one-time parent GE in 1985, and dismantled. Atari, which dominated the home
 video game market when the film came out, never recovered from the next
 year's downturn in the industry, and by the 1990s had ceased to represent
 anything more than a brand, a back catalogue of games and some legacy
 computers. Atari today is an entirely different firm, using the former
 company's name. Cuisinart similarly went bankrupt in 1989, though it lives
 on under new ownership. The Bell System monopoly was broken up that same
 year, and most of the resulting Regional Bell operating companies have 
 since
 changed their names and merged back with each other and other companies to
 form the new ATT. Pan Am suffered the terrorist bombing/destruction of Pan
 Am Flight 103 and after a decade of mounting losses, finally went bankrupt
 in 1991 with the falloff in overseas travel

Re: [scifinoir2] 10 Brands that may disappear in 2011

Won't argue with you there. When my mother's computer started glitching, she
never considered a repair shop. She just had me disconnect it from the
fiber-optic cable and got on the phone with Dell. And yes, you did pass
around Freecycle.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 6:43 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:



 I think what is really going to kill Radioshack is the Disposable product
 culture. Very few people will bother to fix things nowadays. If it stops
 working throw it away and buy a new one.

 Just tonight I saw a 42 inch flat screen on freecycle. The people were
 trying to get rid of it because it kept turning off. I'm not sure what the
 problem is but is it worth the cost of a new tv?

 I think I told you guys about Freecycle a while back right? Think of it
 like a garage sale but everything is free. Its all over the country at
 http://www.Freecycle.org


 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 3:31 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 Mr Worf, it's anything BUT that for Radio Shacks in my area. Once, I went
 into the one nearest where I live, and there were all of five people in the
 store.

 And three of them were employees. Of course, I must say that, less than
 100 meters away, is a Wal-Mart Supercenter. [?]


 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 2:47 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:



 I think that their days are numbered. They still haven't figured out
 their niche in the market. They keep updating their stores to appeal to the
 masses but have forgotten about the geek crowd. I went there a couple of
 weeks ago for a fuse and they only had very small selection. Despite that I
 still find myself going there when I need a cable or something.

 Depending on the store's location they can do a brisk business. The radio
 shack near my house is fairly busy despite being in the same mini mall as a
 Super Target because Target doesn't cover everything that's needed. (things
 like solder or electrical tape etc.)



 On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 11:15 PM, George Arterberry 
 brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com wrote:



 I'm perplexed how Radio Shack survives. I pass by the one in my area and
 its alwys empty. You go there for batteries and little do dats but little
 else. Then along the way the staff  became very aggresive to say the least.

  --
 *From:* Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com
 *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Sat, July 10, 2010 7:41:52 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] 10 Brands that may disappear in 2011



 I agree with all of the items on this list. I think that the companies
 that are in trouble got too fat and lazy during the good years to switch
 gears during the melt down. Most companies seem to never plan far enough
 ahead for the What ifs? I don't get it.

 For example, Blockbuster had the chance to beat Netflix to the punch.
 They had the money and resources to create something that was cutting edge.
 By the time Netflix went public there were 10 other companies with similar
 business plans out there. (a few of them were based here in the bay area
 too) Blockbuster waited years after Netflix killed off most of their
 competition to enter on the field late with poor implementation. Most of 
 the
 retail blockbuster stores are gone now. Only about 1/5th of the stores in
 this area are still open. The article mentioned that they may end up 
 closing
 down all of their stores soon.

 Another example is Longs Drugs. They aren't on this list because they
 have already folded. They were a Northern California based chain that had
 500 stores in 10 states and were expanding up until the .com years. (they
 were literally at war with Walgreens) In 2003, the head of the chain 
 stepped
 down and the people that were left began to see what a huge mess the 
 company
 was. $2Billion a year in sales and they couldn't pay their suppliers? They
 eventually went through 5 or 6 new CEOs before they were eventually sold to
 CVS pharmacy in 2008. The last CEO at least attempted to restructure things
 and stop the hemorrhaging but by then the best option left was to sell.



 On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo. 
 comravena...@yahoo.com
  wrote:

 When I see an article like this I always think of the futuristic
 movie  Bladerunner where most of the companies of the future no longer
 exist.

 (from Wikipedia) RCA, which at one time was the United States' leading
 consumer electronics and communications conglomerate, was bought out by
 one-time parent GE in 1985, and dismantled. Atari, which dominated the 
 home
 video game market when the film came out, never recovered from the next
 year's downturn in the industry, and by the 1990s had ceased to represent
 anything more than a brand, a back catalogue of games and some legacy
 computers. Atari today is an entirely different firm, using the former
 company's name. Cuisinart similarly went bankrupt in 1989, though it lives
 on under new ownership. The Bell System monopoly was broken up that same
 year, and most of

Re: [scifinoir2] 10 Brands that may disappear in 2011

This shouldn't hurt BP that much overall. They have been around a long time
and have thousands of wells. What they have spent so far on the clean up is
only about 1/3 of what they make in a quarter just from oil in this region.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 3:28 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

When I see an article like this I always think of the futuristic movie
Bladerunner where most of the companies of the future no longer exist.

~rave?

http://finance.yahoo.com/banking-budgeting/article/110018/10-brands-that-may-disappear-in-2011

--
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

--
Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/

Re: [scifinoir2] 10 Brands that may disappear in 2011

I had a friend do the same thing. Her laptop is only a couple of years old.
(less than 3) She was complaining about the speed. Instead of cleaning off
the hard drive she unplugged it and bought a new one. Wasteful.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 Won't argue with you there. When my mother's computer started glitching,
 she never considered a repair shop. She just had me disconnect it from the
 fiber-optic cable and got on the phone with Dell. And yes, you did pass
 around Freecycle.


 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 6:43 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:



 I think what is really going to kill Radioshack is the Disposable product
 culture. Very few people will bother to fix things nowadays. If it stops
 working throw it away and buy a new one.

 Just tonight I saw a 42 inch flat screen on freecycle. The people were
 trying to get rid of it because it kept turning off. I'm not sure what the
 problem is but is it worth the cost of a new tv?

 I think I told you guys about Freecycle a while back right? Think of it
 like a garage sale but everything is free. Its all over the country at
 http://www.Freecycle.org


 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 3:31 AM, Martin Baxter 
 martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 Mr Worf, it's anything BUT that for Radio Shacks in my area. Once, I went
 into the one nearest where I live, and there were all of five people in the
 store.

 And three of them were employees. Of course, I must say that, less than
 100 meters away, is a Wal-Mart Supercenter. [?]


 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 2:47 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:



 I think that their days are numbered. They still haven't figured out
 their niche in the market. They keep updating their stores to appeal to the
 masses but have forgotten about the geek crowd. I went there a couple of
 weeks ago for a fuse and they only had very small selection. Despite that I
 still find myself going there when I need a cable or something.

 Depending on the store's location they can do a brisk business. The
 radio shack near my house is fairly busy despite being in the same mini 
 mall
 as a Super Target because Target doesn't cover everything that's needed.
 (things like solder or electrical tape etc.)



 On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 11:15 PM, George Arterberry 
 brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com wrote:



 I'm perplexed how Radio Shack survives. I pass by the one in my area
 and its alwys empty. You go there for batteries and little do dats but
 little else. Then along the way the staff  became very aggresive to say 
 the
 least.

  --
 *From:* Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com
 *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Sat, July 10, 2010 7:41:52 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] 10 Brands that may disappear in 2011



 I agree with all of the items on this list. I think that the companies
 that are in trouble got too fat and lazy during the good years to switch
 gears during the melt down. Most companies seem to never plan far enough
 ahead for the What ifs? I don't get it.

 For example, Blockbuster had the chance to beat Netflix to the punch.
 They had the money and resources to create something that was cutting 
 edge.
 By the time Netflix went public there were 10 other companies with similar
 business plans out there. (a few of them were based here in the bay area
 too) Blockbuster waited years after Netflix killed off most of their
 competition to enter on the field late with poor implementation. Most of 
 the
 retail blockbuster stores are gone now. Only about 1/5th of the stores in
 this area are still open. The article mentioned that they may end up 
 closing
 down all of their stores soon.

 Another example is Longs Drugs. They aren't on this list because they
 have already folded. They were a Northern California based chain that had
 500 stores in 10 states and were expanding up until the .com years. (they
 were literally at war with Walgreens) In 2003, the head of the chain 
 stepped
 down and the people that were left began to see what a huge mess the 
 company
 was. $2Billion a year in sales and they couldn't pay their suppliers? They
 eventually went through 5 or 6 new CEOs before they were eventually sold 
 to
 CVS pharmacy in 2008. The last CEO at least attempted to restructure 
 things
 and stop the hemorrhaging but by then the best option left was to sell.



 On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo. 
 comravena...@yahoo.com
  wrote:

 When I see an article like this I always think of the futuristic
 movie  Bladerunner where most of the companies of the future no longer
 exist.

 (from Wikipedia) RCA, which at one time was the United States' leading
 consumer electronics and communications conglomerate, was bought out by
 one-time parent GE in 1985, and dismantled. Atari, which dominated the 
 home
 video game market when the film came out, never recovered from the next
 year's downturn in the industry, and by the 1990s had ceased to

Re: [scifinoir2] 10 Brands that may disappear in 2011

This shouldn't hurt BP that much overall.

Unfortunately. I'm watching my local news right now, about a restaurant that
may have to lay off workers because they specialize in Gulf Coast seafood,
which they aren't getting because one of their primary suppliers had to shut
its doors indefinitely because of the spill, and lay off its entire staff.
And they haven't seena dime of that money that BP's so reluctant to hand
out.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 6:51 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 3:28 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

When I see an article like this I always think of the futuristic movie
Bladerunner where most of the companies of the future no longer exist.

~rave?

http://finance.yahoo.com/banking-budgeting/article/110018/10-brands-that-may-disappear-in-2011

--
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

--
Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/

--
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

Re: [scifinoir2] 10 Brands that may disappear in 2011

Absolutely. To say nothing of the eco-impact, of all of that plastic parked
in a landfill.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 6:53 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:



 I had a friend do the same thing. Her laptop is only a couple of years old.
 (less than 3) She was complaining about the speed. Instead of cleaning off
 the hard drive she unplugged it and bought a new one. Wasteful.

 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 Won't argue with you there. When my mother's computer started glitching,
 she never considered a repair shop. She just had me disconnect it from the
 fiber-optic cable and got on the phone with Dell. And yes, you did pass
 around Freecycle.


 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 6:43 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:



 I think what is really going to kill Radioshack is the Disposable
 product culture. Very few people will bother to fix things nowadays. If it
 stops working throw it away and buy a new one.

 Just tonight I saw a 42 inch flat screen on freecycle. The people were
 trying to get rid of it because it kept turning off. I'm not sure what the
 problem is but is it worth the cost of a new tv?

 I think I told you guys about Freecycle a while back right? Think of it
 like a garage sale but everything is free. Its all over the country at
 http://www.Freecycle.org


 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 3:31 AM, Martin Baxter 
 martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 Mr Worf, it's anything BUT that for Radio Shacks in my area. Once, I
 went into the one nearest where I live, and there were all of five people 
 in
 the store.

 And three of them were employees. Of course, I must say that, less than
 100 meters away, is a Wal-Mart Supercenter. [?]


 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 2:47 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:



 I think that their days are numbered. They still haven't figured out
 their niche in the market. They keep updating their stores to appeal to 
 the
 masses but have forgotten about the geek crowd. I went there a couple of
 weeks ago for a fuse and they only had very small selection. Despite that 
 I
 still find myself going there when I need a cable or something.

 Depending on the store's location they can do a brisk business. The
 radio shack near my house is fairly busy despite being in the same mini 
 mall
 as a Super Target because Target doesn't cover everything that's needed.
 (things like solder or electrical tape etc.)



 On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 11:15 PM, George Arterberry 
 brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com wrote:



 I'm perplexed how Radio Shack survives. I pass by the one in my area
 and its alwys empty. You go there for batteries and little do dats but
 little else. Then along the way the staff  became very aggresive to say 
 the
 least.

  --
 *From:* Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com
 *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Sat, July 10, 2010 7:41:52 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] 10 Brands that may disappear in 2011



 I agree with all of the items on this list. I think that the companies
 that are in trouble got too fat and lazy during the good years to switch
 gears during the melt down. Most companies seem to never plan far enough
 ahead for the What ifs? I don't get it.

 For example, Blockbuster had the chance to beat Netflix to the punch.
 They had the money and resources to create something that was cutting 
 edge.
 By the time Netflix went public there were 10 other companies with 
 similar
 business plans out there. (a few of them were based here in the bay area
 too) Blockbuster waited years after Netflix killed off most of their
 competition to enter on the field late with poor implementation. Most of 
 the
 retail blockbuster stores are gone now. Only about 1/5th of the stores in
 this area are still open. The article mentioned that they may end up 
 closing
 down all of their stores soon.

 Another example is Longs Drugs. They aren't on this list because they
 have already folded. They were a Northern California based chain that had
 500 stores in 10 states and were expanding up until the .com years. (they
 were literally at war with Walgreens) In 2003, the head of the chain 
 stepped
 down and the people that were left began to see what a huge mess the 
 company
 was. $2Billion a year in sales and they couldn't pay their suppliers? 
 They
 eventually went through 5 or 6 new CEOs before they were eventually sold 
 to
 CVS pharmacy in 2008. The last CEO at least attempted to restructure 
 things
 and stop the hemorrhaging but by then the best option left was to sell.



 On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo. 
 comravena...@yahoo.com
  wrote:

 When I see an article like this I always think of the futuristic
 movie  Bladerunner where most of the companies of the future no longer
 exist.

 (from Wikipedia) RCA, which at one time was the United States'
 leading consumer electronics and communications conglomerate, was 
 bought out
 by one-time parent GE in 1985, and

Re: [scifinoir2] Star Trek in the Park

I'll bet that is something, rave. I've got a friend who lives there. I'll
reach out to her, see if she's seen it yet.

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:



 http://www.boingboing.net/2010/07/08/trek-in-the-park-cla.html

 Classic Star Trek episodes performed outdoors

 An amazingly awesome small theater group in Portland, OR called Atomic Arts
 is about to launch its second season/episode of Trek in the Park -- a live
 action recreation of a classic Star Trek episode from start to finish, free
 and open to the public and staged at Woodlawn Park. The group launched Trek
 last summer with weekend performances of the bizarre episode 'Amok Time',
 and it was insanely awesome! Local band Fast Computers provides the live
 soundtrack (including a great rendition of the theme song to get things off
 to a spacey start), and the entire staging, from the actors to the
 live-on-set sound effect, is just . . . fascinating. And hilarious

  




-- 
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

Re: [scifinoir2] Bendable Bicycle Concept

I saw something on tv a few days ago in Paris. They have a bike rental
program that has caught on there. They have a bike rental stand every 300
meters where you can rent a bike for $1 a day or $25 a month. (day, week,
monthly rentals) Its a huge success there because it cuts down on traffic
and helps keep folks in shape. You can ride a bike to the subway or ride it
to your destination then just put it in the rental machine.

They said at first there was a lot of vandalism but after a while it caught
on and is extremely successful! So successful that they are expanding it to
other cities. I think that it would work great in Berkeley, CA and other
cities here in the US that are flat.

There is a college town called Davis, California and about 95% of the people
there own bikes. Most of the people in the town work for the school or
attend the school and so they bike in.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 3:40 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:

I like that... the fear of bike theft is the only reason I don't have one.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:

July 9th, 2010 | Tech http://www.toxel.com/category/tech/ |

[image: Bendable Bicycle Concept]

Innovative
bikehttp://www.toxel.com/tech/2010/03/16/treadmill-bike-concept/,
designed by *Kevin Scott*, comes with a bendable frame that allows the
bicyclehttp://www.toxel.com/tech/2010/01/16/cool-folding-backpack-bicycle/to
be wrapped around a lamp post.

Ratchet system built into the frame enables it to fold around poles and
allows both wheels and the frame to be secured with one bicycle lock. [
viahttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1292986/Young-designer-puts-new-twist-folding-bicycle-idea.html
]

[image: Bicycle by Kevin Scott]

[image: Bendable Bicycle]

[image: Bendable Bike]

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Re: [scifinoir2] Bendable Bicycle Concept

There was a fledgling rental program the last time I was in Paris, back in
'93. Got to see a lot of the city using one.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:02 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:

There is a college town called Davis, California and about 95% of the
people there own bikes. Most of the people in the town work for the school
or attend the school and so they bike in.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 3:40 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:

I like that... the fear of bike theft is the only reason I don't have one.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:

July 9th, 2010 | Tech http://www.toxel.com/category/tech/ |

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[image: Bicycle by Kevin Scott]

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Re: [scifinoir2] 10 Brands that may disappear in 2011

Have you seen that new commercial that they have been running? They have a
claim hotline headed by a brotha. Dude may want to do a good job but that is
just ASKING for trouble.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 3:54 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:

This shouldn't hurt BP that much overall.

Unfortunately. I'm watching my local news right now, about a restaurant
that may have to lay off workers because they specialize in Gulf Coast
seafood, which they aren't getting because one of their primary suppliers
had to shut its doors indefinitely because of the spill, and lay off its
entire staff. And they haven't seena dime of that money that BP's so
reluctant to hand out.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 6:51 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:

This shouldn't hurt BP that much overall. They have been around a long
time and have thousands of wells. What they have spent so far on the clean
up is only about 1/3 of what they make in a quarter just from oil in this
region.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 3:28 AM, Martin Baxter
martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:

Honestly, the only reason that I know that two of those ten still exist
is because my mother gets Reader's Digest and BP -- well, need I say? Now,
if BP decides to go away of its own accord after ceding all of its corporate
coffers to those affected by the spill, I won't cry...

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

When I see an article like this I always think of the futuristic movie
Bladerunner where most of the companies of the future no longer exist.

(from Wikipedia) RCA, which at one time was the United States' leading
consumer electronics and communications conglomerate, was bought out by
one-time parent GE in 1985, and dismantled. Atari, which dominated the home
video game market when the film came out, never recovered from the next
year's downturn in the industry, and by the 1990s had ceased to represent
anything more than a brand, a back catalogue of games and some legacy
computers. Atari today is an entirely different firm, using the former
company's name. Cuisinart similarly went bankrupt in 1989, though it lives
on under new ownership. The Bell System monopoly was broken up that same
year, and most of the resulting Regional Bell operating companies have
since
changed their names and merged back with each other and other companies to
form the new ATT. Pan Am suffered the terrorist bombing/destruction of Pan
Am Flight 103 and after a decade of mounting losses, finally went bankrupt
in 1991 with the falloff in overseas travel caused by the Gulf War.

~rave?

http://finance.yahoo.com/banking-budgeting/article/110018/10-brands-that-may-disappear-in-2011

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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Scientists discover antibodies that neutralize over 91 percent of HIV strains

2010-07-10 Thread Tracy Curtis


I remember hearing in the early 1990s that some people had a natural resistance 
to AIDS. They would get the HIV virus. It would be detectable. But even without 
treatment, they never acquired full-blown AIDS. 




On Jul 10, 2010, at 1:38 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:

 That would make sense that some folks in Africa would have a natural immunity 
 to it. Like folks in Europe that are naturally immune to the black plague. 
 
 
 On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I saw this in the Wall Street Journal (and posted it practically everywhere 
 but here).  The HIV antibodies were discovered in the cells of a 60-year-old 
 African-American gay man, known in the scientific literature as Donor 45, 
 whose body made the antibodies naturally.  That is absolutely wild to me!
 
 ~rave!
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:
 
  Scientists discover antibodies that neutralize over 91 percent of HIV
  strains
 
  By Darren Quick http://www.gizmag.com/author/darren-quick/
 
  *19:58 July 8, 2010*
 
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[scifinoir2] Re: ATT threatening to drop IFC

Was the first thing on my screen Thursday and Friday morning but, oddly, not 
today.  All systems go through this song and dance when contracts expire.  
Unfortunately I doubt there will be as much clamor to save IFC as there were to 
save ESPN, Disney, TV Land and the like.

~(no)rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:

 On my tv right now they are scrolling across the screen that ATT Uverse is
 threatening to drop IFC from their service. Has anyone else seen this?
 
 
 
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Bendable Bicycle Concept

Hmmm maybe its the same one? You could easily see where additional bike
stands were in the camera shot. The closest thing that they have to that in
San Francisco is the Zipcar system. Its basically a short term rental car
agency. I see a lot of people using the Scion mini van to pick up furniture
at IKEA. :)

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:05 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:

There was a fledgling rental program the last time I was in Paris, back in
'93. Got to see a lot of the city using one.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:02 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:

They said at first there was a lot of vandalism but after a while it
caught on and is extremely successful! So successful that they are expanding
it to other cities. I think that it would work great in Berkeley, CA and
other cities here in the US that are flat.

There is a college town called Davis, California and about 95% of the
people there own bikes. Most of the people in the town work for the school
or attend the school and so they bike in.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 3:40 AM, Martin Baxter
martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:

I like that... the fear of bike theft is the only reason I don't have
one.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:

July 9th, 2010 | Tech http://www.toxel.com/category/tech/ |

[image: Bendable Bicycle Concept]

[image: Bicycle by Kevin Scott]

[image: Bendable Bicycle]

[image: Bendable Bike]

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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: ATT threatening to drop IFC

Maybe you should call them 20 times today and tomorrow rave! Someone has to
save that channel for you.

Comscum switches channels here almost every quarter now. The last quarter
they changed 6 or 7 channels. Now I have 2 syfy channels with the same
programming. I think one may be in HD but most of their shows aren't in HD.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:09 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Was the first thing on my screen Thursday and Friday morning but, oddly,
 not today.  All systems go through this song and dance when contracts
 expire.  Unfortunately I doubt there will be as much clamor to save IFC as
 there were to save ESPN, Disney, TV Land and the like.

 ~(no)rave!

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:
 
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 is
  threatening to drop IFC from their service. Has anyone else seen this?
 
 
 
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Renault gives sneak peak of sporty DeZir electric concept car

She's nice, Mr Worf. But still, seeing that, my heart is drawn to this...

Bugatti Veyron http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugatti_Veyron

Picture of 
onehttp://dreamingrils.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/bugatti-veyron-mahal-3.jpg

Sure... it's Eco-EVIL. (8 MPG) But it goes 0-60 in 2.2 seconds. [?][?][?][?]

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:



 Renault gives sneak peak of sporty DeZir electric concept car

 By Darren Quick http://www.gizmag.com/author/darren-quick/

 *01:04 July 9, 2010*

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 doors that open in opposite 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: ATT threatening to drop IFC

Indeed, rave. Deity forfend anything that might possibly educate or uplift.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Was the first thing on my screen Thursday and Friday morning but, oddly,
 not today. All systems go through this song and dance when contracts expire.
 Unfortunately I doubt there will be as much clamor to save IFC as there were
 to save ESPN, Disney, TV Land and the like.

 ~(no)rave!


 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Mr.
 Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:
 
  On my tv right now they are scrolling across the screen that ATT Uverse
 is
  threatening to drop IFC from their service. Has anyone else seen this?
 
 
 
 
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[scifinoir2] Re: LeBron James The Decision top-ranked show on Thursday night

As I've stated previously, I find it both interesting and disheartening that 
people are okay when corporations (the NBA, the New York Athletic Club, the 
Kentucky Derby) put on one of these bloated hour-long programs with two minutes 
of content but are aghast when an individual does it.  Like the police officer 
in Malcolm X most folks seem to think, That is too much power for one black 
man to have!

I am not displeased that Mr. James' asserted his manhood right to apply his 
trade where ever he wants to.

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@... wrote:

 The across-the-board reaction I'm hearing in this is that, in the public
 eye, LeBron had lost a lots of fans over this. And not because he left
 Cleveland. I've heard that event described, most charitably, as an
 infomercial. Doesn't bother me only because I watch so few NBA games (a
 grand total of six this past season, counting the playoffs).
 
 On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote:
 
 
 
 
  http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/07/09/lebron-james-the-decision-is-top-rated-tv-show-on-thursday/56595
 
  Thursday night's LeBron James The Decision on ESPN drew a 7.3 household
  rating in the preliminary overnight ratings.
  Compare that to the top rated show on broadcast last night, a repeat of The
  Mentalist on CBS, which drew a 6.0 household rating in the preliminary
  overnights.
  Update: Here is ESPN's official press release.
  A 7.3 is twice what an average NBA game ranks.
 
   
 
 
 
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Bendable Bicycle Concept

Could be. Don't remember the name of the place, because the young lady I
went there with made the arrangements. (Back then, I had my health and loved
walking everywhere. She wasn't as keen on that.) And we've got Zipcar here
in Atlanta since last year. I can even get a discount through MARTA, our
rapid-transit system.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:05 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:

There was a fledgling rental program the last time I was in Paris, back in
'93. Got to see a lot of the city using one.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:02 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:

They said at first there was a lot of vandalism but after a while it
caught on and is extremely successful! So successful that they are expanding
it to other cities. I think that it would work great in Berkeley, CA and
other cities here in the US that are flat.

There is a college town called Davis, California and about 95% of the
people there own bikes. Most of the people in the town work for the school
or attend the school and so they bike in.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 3:40 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com
wrote:

I like that... the fear of bike theft is the only reason I don't have
one.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:

July 9th, 2010 | Tech http://www.toxel.com/category/tech/ |

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Re: [scifinoir2] 10 Brands that may disappear in 2011

Oh, yeah, I've seen that. I really don't believe for a second that he
volunteered for the detail. That's like volunteering to search a minefield
while astride a pogo stick.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:06 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:

Have you seen that new commercial that they have been running? They have a
claim hotline headed by a brotha. Dude may want to do a good job but that is
just ASKING for trouble.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 3:54 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:

This shouldn't hurt BP that much overall.

Unfortunately. I'm watching my local news right now, about a restaurant
that may have to lay off workers because they specialize in Gulf Coast
seafood, which they aren't getting because one of their primary suppliers
had to shut its doors indefinitely because of the spill, and lay off its
entire staff. And they haven't seena dime of that money that BP's so
reluctant to hand out.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 6:51 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:

This shouldn't hurt BP that much overall. They have been around a long
time and have thousands of wells. What they have spent so far on the clean
up is only about 1/3 of what they make in a quarter just from oil in this
region.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 3:28 AM, Martin Baxter
martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:

Honestly, the only reason that I know that two of those ten still exist
is because my mother gets Reader's Digest and BP -- well, need I say? Now,
if BP decides to go away of its own accord after ceding all of its
corporate
coffers to those affected by the spill, I won't cry...

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

When I see an article like this I always think of the futuristic
movie Bladerunner where most of the companies of the future no longer
exist.

(from Wikipedia) RCA, which at one time was the United States' leading
consumer electronics and communications conglomerate, was bought out by
one-time parent GE in 1985, and dismantled. Atari, which dominated the
home
video game market when the film came out, never recovered from the next
year's downturn in the industry, and by the 1990s had ceased to represent
anything more than a brand, a back catalogue of games and some legacy
computers. Atari today is an entirely different firm, using the former
company's name. Cuisinart similarly went bankrupt in 1989, though it lives
on under new ownership. The Bell System monopoly was broken up that same
year, and most of the resulting Regional Bell operating companies have
since
changed their names and merged back with each other and other companies to
form the new ATT. Pan Am suffered the terrorist bombing/destruction of
Pan
Am Flight 103 and after a decade of mounting losses, finally went bankrupt
in 1991 with the falloff in overseas travel caused by the Gulf War.

~rave?

http://finance.yahoo.com/banking-budgeting/article/110018/10-brands-that-may-disappear-in-2011

24/7 Wall St. has created a new list of brands that may disappear,
which includes Readers Digest, Kia Motors, Dollar Thrifty, Zale ,
Blockbuster, T-Mobile, BP Plc , RadioShack , Merrill Lynch and Moody's.

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Re: [scifinoir2] Treadway Mobility concept puts personal electric transport at your feet

Now that would catch on easily with kids, especially here in Atlanta.

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:



 Treadway Mobility concept puts personal electric transport at your feet

 By Paul Ridden http://www.gizmag.com/author/paul-ridden/

 *00:59 July 9, 2010*

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Re: [scifinoir2] Renault gives sneak peak of sporty DeZir electric concept car

You can burn rubber from gas station to gas station. :)

I think the Shelby Ultimate Aero is sexier and almost as fast. Take a look:
http://www.itechnews.net/2009/01/28/shelby-ultimate-aero-ev-electric-sportscar-does-0-to-60-in-25-seconds/

You can get it all electric or gas powered. 1000hp.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:15 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 She's nice, Mr Worf. But still, seeing that, my heart is drawn to this...

 Bugatti Veyron http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugatti_Veyron

 Picture of 
 onehttp://dreamingrils.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/bugatti-veyron-mahal-3.jpg

 Sure... it's Eco-EVIL. (8 MPG) But it goes 0-60 in 2.2 seconds. [?][?][?][?]


 On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:



 Renault gives sneak peak of sporty DeZir electric concept car

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 *01:04 July 9, 2010*

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Re: [scifinoir2] Bendable Bicycle Concept

I need to come down that way and take a look around one of these days. So
far I have only seen the airport on my stop overs.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:25 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:05 AM, Martin Baxter
martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:

There was a fledgling rental program the last time I was in Paris, back
in '93. Got to see a lot of the city using one.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:02 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:

They said at first there was a lot of vandalism but after a while it
caught on and is extremely successful! So successful that they are
expanding
it to other cities. I think that it would work great in Berkeley, CA and
other cities here in the US that are flat.

There is a college town called Davis, California and about 95% of the
people there own bikes. Most of the people in the town work for the school
or attend the school and so they bike in.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 3:40 AM, Martin Baxter
martinbaxt...@gmail.com wrote:

I like that... the fear of bike theft is the only reason I don't have
one.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:

July 9th, 2010 | Tech http://www.toxel.com/category/tech/ |

[image: Bendable Bicycle Concept]

Innovative
bikehttp://www.toxel.com/tech/2010/03/16/treadmill-bike-concept/,
designed by *Kevin Scott*, comes with a bendable frame that allows
the
bicyclehttp://www.toxel.com/tech/2010/01/16/cool-folding-backpack-bicycle/to
be wrapped around a lamp post.

Ratchet system built into the frame enables it to fold around poles
and allows both wheels and the frame to be secured with one bicycle
lock. [
viahttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1292986/Young-designer-puts-new-twist-folding-bicycle-idea.html
]

[image: Bicycle by Kevin Scott]

[image: Bendable Bicycle]

[image: Bendable Bike]

[image: Bendable Bike Concept]
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: ATT threatening to drop IFC

I wonder what they would replace it with?

It reminds me of what almost happened to public television back in the Bush
sr. years. They were trying to shut it down completely at one point. There
was a good hour or two before people were enraged to do something.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 Indeed, rave. Deity forfend anything that might possibly educate or uplift.


 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Was the first thing on my screen Thursday and Friday morning but, oddly,
 not today. All systems go through this song and dance when contracts expire.
 Unfortunately I doubt there will be as much clamor to save IFC as there were
 to save ESPN, Disney, TV Land and the like.

 ~(no)rave!


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 is
  threatening to drop IFC from their service. Has anyone else seen this?
 
 
 
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Renault gives sneak peak of sporty DeZir electric concept car

That could compete... [?]

I'm not normally a gear head, but Top Gear has ignited a love of things
fast in me. When they did the segment on the Veyron, James May, said that,
while he was driving it, he almost got out while it was still doing 70 MPH.
It ran so smoothly and quietly that he actually thought that he'd stopped.
That speaks to the Primal Me.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:



 You can burn rubber from gas station to gas station. :)

 I think the Shelby Ultimate Aero is sexier and almost as fast. Take a look:

 http://www.itechnews.net/2009/01/28/shelby-ultimate-aero-ev-electric-sportscar-does-0-to-60-in-25-seconds/

 You can get it all electric or gas powered. 1000hp.

 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:15 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 She's nice, Mr Worf. But still, seeing that, my heart is drawn to this...

 Bugatti Veyron http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugatti_Veyron

 Picture of 
 onehttp://dreamingrils.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/bugatti-veyron-mahal-3.jpg

 Sure... it's Eco-EVIL. (8 MPG) But it goes 0-60 in 2.2 seconds. [?][?][?][?]


 On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:



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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: ATT threatening to drop IFC

Mr Worf, in  all honesty -- Fox Reality Channel. (Which, I'm proud to say,
DirecTV dumped two weeks ago.)

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:



 I wonder what they would replace it with?

 It reminds me of what almost happened to public television back in the Bush
 sr. years. They were trying to shut it down completely at one point. There
 was a good hour or two before people were enraged to do something.

 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 Indeed, rave. Deity forfend anything that might possibly educate or
 uplift.


 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Was the first thing on my screen Thursday and Friday morning but, oddly,
 not today. All systems go through this song and dance when contracts expire.
 Unfortunately I doubt there will be as much clamor to save IFC as there were
 to save ESPN, Disney, TV Land and the like.

 ~(no)rave!


 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Mr.
 Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:
 
  On my tv right now they are scrolling across the screen that ATT Uverse
 is
  threatening to drop IFC from their service. Has anyone else seen this?
 
 
 
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Bendable Bicycle Concept

Definitely more to the place than that.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:37 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:

I need to come down that way and take a look around one of these days. So
far I have only seen the airport on my stop overs.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:25 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:05 AM, Martin Baxter
martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:

There was a fledgling rental program the last time I was in Paris, back
in '93. Got to see a lot of the city using one.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:02 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:

I saw something on tv a few days ago in Paris. They have a bike rental
program that has caught on there. They have a bike rental stand every 300
meters where you can rent a bike for $1 a day or $25 a month. (day, week,
monthly rentals) Its a huge success there because it cuts down on traffic
and helps keep folks in shape. You can ride a bike to the subway or ride
it
to your destination then just put it in the rental machine.

They said at first there was a lot of vandalism but after a while it
caught on and is extremely successful! So successful that they are
expanding
it to other cities. I think that it would work great in Berkeley, CA and
other cities here in the US that are flat.

There is a college town called Davis, California and about 95% of the
people there own bikes. Most of the people in the town work for the school
or attend the school and so they bike in.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 3:40 AM, Martin Baxter
martinbaxt...@gmail.com wrote:

I like that... the fear of bike theft is the only reason I don't have
one.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:

July 9th, 2010 | Tech http://www.toxel.com/category/tech/ |

[image: Bendable Bicycle Concept]

Innovative
bikehttp://www.toxel.com/tech/2010/03/16/treadmill-bike-concept/,
designed by *Kevin Scott*, comes with a bendable frame that allows
the
bicyclehttp://www.toxel.com/tech/2010/01/16/cool-folding-backpack-bicycle/to
be wrapped around a lamp post.

Ratchet system built into the frame enables it to fold around poles
and allows both wheels and the frame to be secured with one bicycle
lock. [
viahttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1292986/Young-designer-puts-new-twist-folding-bicycle-idea.html
]

[image: Bicycle by Kevin Scott]

[image: Bendable Bicycle]

[image: Bendable Bike]

[image: Bendable Bike Concept]
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Posted: 09 Jul 2010 02:59 PM PDT
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: ATT threatening to drop IFC

Some of the game shows on that channel seemed more like psych experiments
from a B scifi movie.

I remember one show in particular that kept three people in isolation for
several days without sleep, then had them perform strange tasks for rewards.
I think that they also had a segment where they had to shock the other
contestants. Someone had to leave with some mental scaring.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 Mr Worf, in  all honesty -- Fox Reality Channel. (Which, I'm proud to say,
 DirecTV dumped two weeks ago.)


 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:



 I wonder what they would replace it with?

 It reminds me of what almost happened to public television back in the
 Bush sr. years. They were trying to shut it down completely at one point.
 There was a good hour or two before people were enraged to do something.

 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Martin Baxter 
 martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 Indeed, rave. Deity forfend anything that might possibly educate or
 uplift.


 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Was the first thing on my screen Thursday and Friday morning but, oddly,
 not today. All systems go through this song and dance when contracts 
 expire.
 Unfortunately I doubt there will be as much clamor to save IFC as there 
 were
 to save ESPN, Disney, TV Land and the like.

 ~(no)rave!


 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Mr.
 Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:
 
  On my tv right now they are scrolling across the screen that ATT
 Uverse is
  threatening to drop IFC from their service. Has anyone else seen this?
 
 
 
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: ATT threatening to drop IFC

Absolutely. When I first found that on my dial, I screamed. Literally,
because they didn't give me G4 because of this crap.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 8:00 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:



 Some of the game shows on that channel seemed more like psych experiments
 from a B scifi movie.

 I remember one show in particular that kept three people in isolation for
 several days without sleep, then had them perform strange tasks for rewards.
 I think that they also had a segment where they had to shock the other
 contestants. Someone had to leave with some mental scaring.


 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 Mr Worf, in  all honesty -- Fox Reality Channel. (Which, I'm proud to say,
 DirecTV dumped two weeks ago.)


 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:



 I wonder what they would replace it with?

 It reminds me of what almost happened to public television back in the
 Bush sr. years. They were trying to shut it down completely at one point.
 There was a good hour or two before people were enraged to do something.

 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Martin Baxter 
 martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 Indeed, rave. Deity forfend anything that might possibly educate or
 uplift.


 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Was the first thing on my screen Thursday and Friday morning but,
 oddly, not today. All systems go through this song and dance when 
 contracts
 expire. Unfortunately I doubt there will be as much clamor to save IFC as
 there were to save ESPN, Disney, TV Land and the like.

 ~(no)rave!


 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Mr.
 Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:
 
  On my tv right now they are scrolling across the screen that ATT
 Uverse is
  threatening to drop IFC from their service. Has anyone else seen
 this?
 
 
 
 
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 If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody
 hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





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 Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
 Mahogany at:
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 --
 If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
 wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





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 Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/

  




-- 
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

Re: [scifinoir2] Renault gives sneak peak of sporty DeZir electric concept car

For over $1 Million it would have to sing to me gently while I sleep. :)

It is a beautiful car but my inner hippy has problems with the lewdness of
its extravagance.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:43 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 That could compete... [?]

 I'm not normally a gear head, but Top Gear has ignited a love of things
 fast in me. When they did the segment on the Veyron, James May, said that,
 while he was driving it, he almost got out while it was still doing 70 MPH.
 It ran so smoothly and quietly that he actually thought that he'd stopped.
 That speaks to the Primal Me.


 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:



 You can burn rubber from gas station to gas station. :)

 I think the Shelby Ultimate Aero is sexier and almost as fast. Take a
 look:
 http://www.itechnews.net/2009/01/28/shelby-ultimate-aero-ev-electric-sportscar-does-0-to-60-in-25-seconds/

 You can get it all electric or gas powered. 1000hp.

 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:15 AM, Martin Baxter 
 martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 She's nice, Mr Worf. But still, seeing that, my heart is drawn to this...

 Bugatti Veyron http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugatti_Veyron

 Picture of 
 onehttp://dreamingrils.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/bugatti-veyron-mahal-3.jpg

 Sure... it's Eco-EVIL. (8 MPG) But it goes 0-60 in 2.2 seconds. [?][?][?][?]


 On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:



 Renault gives sneak peak of sporty DeZir electric concept car

 By Darren Quick http://www.gizmag.com/author/darren-quick/

 *01:04 July 9, 2010*

 16 
 Pictureshttp://www.gizmag.com/renault-dezir-concept-electric-vehicle/15665/picture/117514/
   [image: The Renault DeZir concept electric vehicle features gull-wing
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: ATT threatening to drop IFC

From the outside the entire process just seems convoluted and wacky. The
same cable company can have a different line up for neighboring cities and
sometimes completely different lineups in the same city!

Sooner or later the feds will need to step in.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 5:09 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 Absolutely. When I first found that on my dial, I screamed. Literally,
 because they didn't give me G4 because of this crap.


 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 8:00 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:



 Some of the game shows on that channel seemed more like psych
 experiments from a B scifi movie.

 I remember one show in particular that kept three people in isolation for
 several days without sleep, then had them perform strange tasks for rewards.
 I think that they also had a segment where they had to shock the other
 contestants. Someone had to leave with some mental scaring.


 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Martin Baxter 
 martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 Mr Worf, in  all honesty -- Fox Reality Channel. (Which, I'm proud to
 say, DirecTV dumped two weeks ago.)


 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:



 I wonder what they would replace it with?

 It reminds me of what almost happened to public television back in the
 Bush sr. years. They were trying to shut it down completely at one point.
 There was a good hour or two before people were enraged to do something.

 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com
  wrote:



 Indeed, rave. Deity forfend anything that might possibly educate or
 uplift.


 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Was the first thing on my screen Thursday and Friday morning but,
 oddly, not today. All systems go through this song and dance when 
 contracts
 expire. Unfortunately I doubt there will be as much clamor to save IFC as
 there were to save ESPN, Disney, TV Land and the like.

 ~(no)rave!


 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com,
 Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:
 
  On my tv right now they are scrolling across the screen that ATT
 Uverse is
  threatening to drop IFC from their service. Has anyone else seen
 this?
 
 
 
 
  --
  Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
  Mahogany at:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
 




 --
 If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody
 hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





 --
 Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
 Mahogany at:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/




 --
 If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody
 hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





 --
 Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
 Mahogany at:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/




 --
 If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
 wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik


 




-- 
Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: LeBron James The Decision top-ranked show on Thursday night

2010-07-10 Thread Tracy Curtis

I'm glad you said this. Reading your comments allowed me to realize that the
other TV events are completely off my radar. I only had a vague notion of these
broadcasts except for the drafts. I don't think I've seen one--at least in
adulthood.

I now watch sports only occasionally after growing up watching quite a bit of
football. I probably would have paid little attention to the LeBron James event
if I were anyplace other than Cleveland. People have been publicly begging and
crying the whole time of my visit. From what I understand, this has been
happening since the playoffs. Being here now definitely skews my viewpoint.
People are drawing a lot of comparisons to the way the Art Modell removed the
Browns from the city. Maybe it makes sense to compare the two men. But the
situations to me are very different.

I would speculate that Gilbert's letter is his rant against LJ, but also his
way of positioning himself in the city against Modell. He'll need that support.
And it definitely worked here.

That said, I totally agree with you that when black people do things that are
unprecedented, a lot of folks suddenly take offense.

On Jul 10, 2010, at 7:20 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

As I've stated previously, I find it both interesting and disheartening that
people are okay when corporations (the NBA, the New York Athletic Club, the
Kentucky Derby) put on one of these bloated hour-long programs with two
minutes of content but are aghast when an individual does it. Like the police
officer in Malcolm X most folks seem to think, That is too much power for
one black man to have!

I am not displeased that Mr. James' asserted his manhood right to apply his
trade where ever he wants to.

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@... wrote:

The across-the-board reaction I'm hearing in this is that, in the public
eye, LeBron had lost a lots of fans over this. And not because he left
Cleveland. I've heard that event described, most charitably, as an
infomercial. Doesn't bother me only because I watch so few NBA games (a
grand total of six this past season, counting the playoffs).

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote:

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/07/09/lebron-james-the-decision-is-top-rated-tv-show-on-thursday/56595

Thursday night's LeBron James The Decision on ESPN drew a 7.3 household
rating in the preliminary overnight ratings.
Compare that to the top rated show on broadcast last night, a repeat of
The
Mentalist on CBS, which drew a 6.0 household rating in the preliminary
overnights.
Update: Here is ESPN's official press release.
A 7.3 is twice what an average NBA game ranks.

--
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: LeBron James The Decision top-ranked show on Thursday night

And like i said, i hate it when done by corporations or individuals. There is 
too much of this self-promoting, self-aggrandizing, famous because you're 
famous culture going on nowadays. This was bloated and unnecessary. You hear 
people talking about it who could care less about the NBA and realize they're 
only talking about it because *others* are talking about it. They're focused on 
James because he made himself a focus, along with ESPN's help. Even in terms of 
basketball, this isn't really that big of a deal. By that, I mean that the Heat 
possibly winning a championship isn't as huge as, say, even if Michael Jordan 
had moved back in the day. Truth, this should have been of interest to 
Cleveland, Miami, true NBA fans, and that's it. It doesn't truly redefine the 
game or anything. And despite our talk of its economic impact on Cleveland, 
that's not really the focus of the news stories. It really is hey! Everyone 
said this is a big deal, so let's cover it. 
I find that troubling, and just because big business already does it, it 
doesn't mean the individuals need to do it do. Maybe everyone needs to back off 
a bit on this stuff... 

- Original Message - 
From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 7:20:04 AM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: LeBron James The Decision top-ranked show on 
Thursday night 






As I've stated previously, I find it both interesting and disheartening that 
people are okay when corporations (the NBA, the New York Athletic Club, the 
Kentucky Derby) put on one of these bloated hour-long programs with two minutes 
of content but are aghast when an individual does it. Like the police officer 
in Malcolm X most folks seem to think, That is too much power for one black 
man to have! 

I am not displeased that Mr. James' asserted his manhood right to apply his 
trade where ever he wants to. 

~rave! 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@... wrote: 
 
 The across-the-board reaction I'm hearing in this is that, in the public 
 eye, LeBron had lost a lots of fans over this. And not because he left 
 Cleveland. I've heard that event described, most charitably, as an 
 infomercial. Doesn't bother me only because I watch so few NBA games (a 
 grand total of six this past season, counting the playoffs). 
 
 On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote: 
 
  
  
  
  http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/07/09/lebron-james-the-decision-is-top-rated-tv-show-on-thursday/56595
   
  
  Thursday night's LeBron James The Decision on ESPN drew a 7.3 household 
  rating in the preliminary overnight ratings. 
  Compare that to the top rated show on broadcast last night, a repeat of The 
  Mentalist on CBS, which drew a 6.0 household rating in the preliminary 
  overnights. 
  Update: Here is ESPN's official press release. 
  A 7.3 is twice what an average NBA game ranks. 
  
  
  
 
 
 
 -- 
 If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
 wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

Re: [scifinoir2] 10 Brands that may disappear in 2011

I listened to an interview with him and he says he definitely volunteered for 
it because he wanted to help his home. Buddy is a geologist by trade, I 
believe, so isn't exactly groomed for the job of PR spokesman, but wanted to 
help. He hasn't lived in the area for years, but his family is still there. He 
spent time to help his mother after Katrina, and had to come back now. I think 
BP took him frankly because he's black and from the area, making them look both 
sensitive and progressive at the same time. 

- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 7:27:12 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] 10 Brands that may disappear in 2011 






Oh, yeah, I've seen that. I really don't believe for a second that he 
volunteered for the detail. That's like volunteering to search a minefield 
while astride a pogo stick. 


On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:06 AM, Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  wrote: 








Have you seen that new commercial that they have been running? They have a 
claim hotline headed by a brotha. Dude may want to do a good job but that is 
just ASKING for trouble. 



On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 3:54 AM, Martin Baxter  martinbaxt...@gmail.com  
wrote: 






This shouldn't hurt BP that much overall. 

Unfortunately. I'm watching my local news right now, about a restaurant that 
may have to lay off workers because they specialize in Gulf Coast seafood, 
which they aren't getting because one of their primary suppliers had to shut 
its doors indefinitely because of the spill, and lay off its entire staff. And 
they haven't seena dime of that money that BP's so reluctant to hand out. 



On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 6:51 AM, Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  wrote: 









This shouldn't hurt BP that much overall. They have been around a long time and 
have thousands of wells. What they have spent so far on the clean up is only 
about 1/3 of what they make in a quarter just from oil in this region. 


On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 3:28 AM, Martin Baxter  martinbaxt...@gmail.com  
wrote: 





Honestly, the only reason that I know that two of those ten still exist is 
because my mother gets Reader's Digest and BP -- well, need I say? Now, if BP 
decides to go away of its own accord after ceding all of its corporate coffers 
to those affected by the spill, I won't cry... 




On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Kelwyn  ravena...@yahoo.com  wrote: 










When I see an article like this I always think of the futuristic movie 
Bladerunner where most of the companies of the future no longer exist. 

(from Wikipedia) RCA, which at one time was the United States' leading consumer 
electronics and communications conglomerate, was bought out by one-time parent 
GE in 1985, and dismantled. Atari, which dominated the home video game market 
when the film came out, never recovered from the next year's downturn in the 
industry, and by the 1990s had ceased to represent anything more than a brand, 
a back catalogue of games and some legacy computers. Atari today is an entirely 
different firm, using the former company's name. Cuisinart similarly went 
bankrupt in 1989, though it lives on under new ownership. The Bell System 
monopoly was broken up that same year, and most of the resulting Regional Bell 
operating companies have since changed their names and merged back with each 
other and other companies to form the new ATT. Pan Am suffered the terrorist 
bombing/destruction of Pan Am Flight 103 and after a decade of mounting losses, 
finally went bankrupt in 1991 with the falloff in overseas travel caused by the 
Gulf War. 

~rave? 

http://finance.yahoo.com/banking-budgeting/article/110018/10-brands-that-may-disappear-in-2011
 



24/7 Wall St. has created a new list of brands that may disappear, which 
includes Readers Digest, Kia Motors, Dollar Thrifty, Zale , Blockbuster, 
T-Mobile, BP Plc , RadioShack , Merrill Lynch and Moody's. 






-- 

If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 








-- 
Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! 
Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ 







-- 
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 






-- 
Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! 
Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ 






-- 
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

Re: [scifinoir2] 10 Brands that may disappear in 2011

2010-07-10 Thread George Arterberry

I have not been in side a video store for at least five years if not more. The Netflix model and tapping into streaming ended that nightmare. Everyone can't get to a Blockbuster on a Tuesday morning when the new titles come in .So you go on Friday or Saturday night and you are SOL.

I still marvel at Kmartand Sears still hanging on. Sears was massive in my youth. Heck thats where my shopping for school began and ended as a young boy. Toughskins,Winners and glasses from Sears eyecare.Mom didn't play. Sears fall from the dominant force in American retail is staggering. The suits at Kmart have stopped caring most in my neck of the woods have poor lighting, need a good scrubbing and lack volume. It seems like a place to getpillow-cases , Halloween costumes for the kids or a cheap pair of swimming trunks.





From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comTo: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSent: Sat, July 10, 2010 1:31:13 PMSubject: Re: [scifinoir2] 10 Brands that may disappear in 2011 

Mr Worf, it's anything BUT that for Radio Shacks in my area. Once, I went into the one nearest where I live, and there were all of five people in the store.And three of them were employees. Of course, I must say that, less than 100 meters away, is a Wal-Mart Supercenter. 
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 2:47 AM, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com wrote:

 



I think that their days are numbered. They still haven't figured out their niche in the market. They keep updating their stores to appeal to the masses but have forgotten about the geek crowd. I went there a couple of weeks ago for a fuse and they only had very small selection. Despite that I still find myself going there when I need a cable or something. Depending on the store's location they can do a brisk business. The radio shack near my house is fairly busy despite being in the same mini mall as a Super Target because Target doesn't cover everything that's needed. (things like solder or electrical tape etc.) 



On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 11:15 PM, George Arterberry brotherfromhoward@ yahoo.com wrote:



I'm perplexed how Radio Shack survives. I pass by the one in my area and its alwys empty. You go there for batteries and little do dats but little else. Then along the way the staff became very aggresive to say the least.




From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.comTo: scifino...@yahoogro ups.comSent: Sat, July 10, 2010 7:41:52 AMSubject: Re: [scifinoir2] 10 Brands that may disappear in 2011 


I agree with all of the items on this list. I think that the companies that are in trouble got too fat and lazy during the good years to switch gears during the melt down. Most companies seem to never plan far enough ahead for the "What ifs?" I don't get it. For example, Blockbuster had the chance to beat Netflix to the punch. They had the money and resources to create something that was cutting edge. By the time Netflix went public there were 10 other companies with similar business plans out there. (a few of them were based here in the bay area too) Blockbuster waited years after Netflix killed off most of their competition to enter on the field late with poor implementation. Most of the retail blockbuster stores are gone now. Only about 1/5th of the stores in this area are still open. The article mentioned that they may end up closing down all of their stores soon. Another example is Longs Drugs. They aren't on this list because
 they have already folded. They were a Northern California based chain that had 500 stores in 10 states and were expanding up until the .com years. (they were literally at war with Walgreens) In 2003, the head of the chain stepped down and the people that were left began to see what a huge mess the company was. $2Billion a year in sales and they couldn't pay their suppliers? They eventually went through 5 or 6 new CEOs before they were eventually sold to CVS pharmacy in 2008. The last CEO at least attempted to restructure things and stop the hemorrhaging but by then the best option left was to sell. 

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo. com wrote:

When I see an article like this I always think of the "futuristic" movie "Bladerunner" where most of the companies of the future no longer exist.(from Wikipedia) RCA, which at one time was the United States' leading consumer electronics and communications conglomerate, was bought out by one-time parent GE in 1985, and dismantled. Atari, which dominated the home video game market when the film came out, never recovered from the next year's downturn in the industry, and by the 1990s had ceased to represent anything more than a brand, a back catalogue of games and some legacy computers. Atari today is an entirely different firm, using the former company's name. Cuisinart similarly went bankrupt in 1989, though it lives on under new ownership. The Bell System monopoly was broken up that same year, and most of the resulting Regional Bell operating companies have since changed their names and merged back with

[scifinoir2] Re: LeBron James The Decision top-ranked show on Thursday night

And I still think the scariest thing in America is a free black man.

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote:

 And like i said, i hate it when done by corporations or individuals. There is 
 too much of this self-promoting, self-aggrandizing, famous because you're 
 famous culture going on nowadays. This was bloated and unnecessary. You hear 
 people talking about it who could care less about the NBA and realize they're 
 only talking about it because *others* are talking about it. They're focused 
 on James because he made himself a focus, along with ESPN's help. Even in 
 terms of basketball, this isn't really that big of a deal. By that, I mean 
 that the Heat possibly winning a championship isn't as huge as, say, even if 
 Michael Jordan had moved back in the day. Truth, this should have been of 
 interest to Cleveland, Miami, true NBA fans, and that's it. It doesn't truly 
 redefine the game or anything. And despite our talk of its economic impact on 
 Cleveland, that's not really the focus of the news stories. It really is 
 hey! Everyone said this is a big deal, so let's cover it. 
 I find that troubling, and just because big business already does it, it 
 doesn't mean the individuals need to do it do. Maybe everyone needs to back 
 off a bit on this stuff... 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Kelwyn ravena...@... 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 7:20:04 AM 
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: LeBron James The Decision top-ranked show on 
 Thursday night 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 As I've stated previously, I find it both interesting and disheartening that 
 people are okay when corporations (the NBA, the New York Athletic Club, the 
 Kentucky Derby) put on one of these bloated hour-long programs with two 
 minutes of content but are aghast when an individual does it. Like the police 
 officer in Malcolm X most folks seem to think, That is too much power for 
 one black man to have! 
 
 I am not displeased that Mr. James' asserted his manhood right to apply his 
 trade where ever he wants to. 
 
 ~rave! 
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ wrote: 
  
  The across-the-board reaction I'm hearing in this is that, in the public 
  eye, LeBron had lost a lots of fans over this. And not because he left 
  Cleveland. I've heard that event described, most charitably, as an 
  infomercial. Doesn't bother me only because I watch so few NBA games (a 
  grand total of six this past season, counting the playoffs). 
  
  On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Kelwyn ravenadal@ wrote: 
  
   
   
   
   http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/07/09/lebron-james-the-decision-is-top-rated-tv-show-on-thursday/56595

   
   Thursday night's LeBron James The Decision on ESPN drew a 7.3 household 
   rating in the preliminary overnight ratings. 
   Compare that to the top rated show on broadcast last night, a repeat of 
   The 
   Mentalist on CBS, which drew a 6.0 household rating in the preliminary 
   overnights. 
   Update: Here is ESPN's official press release. 
   A 7.3 is twice what an average NBA game ranks. 
   
   
   
  
  
  
  -- 
  If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
  wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant 
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

Re: [scifinoir2] Star Trek in the Park

2010-07-10 Thread brent wodehouse

(((Swet!)))


Brent



On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:



http://www.boingboing.net/2010/07/08/trek-in-the-park-cla.html

Classic Star Trek episodes performed outdoors

An amazingly awesome small theater group in Portland, OR called Atomic
Arts is about to launch its second season/episode of Trek in the Park --
a live action recreation of a classic Star Trek episode from start to
finish, free and open to the public and staged at Woodlawn Park. The
group launched Trek last summer with weekend performances of the bizarre
episode 'Amok Time', and it was insanely awesome! Local band Fast
Computers provides the live soundtrack (including a great rendition of
the theme song to get things off to a spacey start), and the entire
staging, from the actors to the live-on-set sound effect, is just . . .
fascinating. And hilarious

Re: [scifinoir2] Renault gives sneak peak of sporty DeZir electric concept car

Mr Worf, I got my first experience with True Speed back in '83, when I met a
fellow student at Virginia State. He was one of the lesser Saudi princes
(not likely to inherit more than more money), and he wasn't shy about hosing
it around. That semester, he was three days late in reporting to school
because he detoured to Noo Yawk to pick up his brand-new Lamborghini
Countach, and drove it down from the Port of Noo Yawk himself, rather than
have it shipped, just to show it off. He pulled up beside me as I was
walking toward an off-campus convenience store, got out and tossed me the
keys to let me drive it. There are a lot of nice, straight roads in
Chesterfield County, and I saw a lot of them that afternoon. Got it up to
155 (its rated top end was 175), and backed off only because I knew that I
was close to a radar trap (had a friend who was a CC sheriff's deputy). To
this day, the roar lives in my bones. If I ever get hold of the million to
spare, you'll hear about me either getting a massive traffic ticket or being
in serious traction. [?][?][?][?]

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:

For over $1 Million it would have to sing to me gently while I sleep. :)

It is a beautiful car but my inner hippy has problems with the lewdness of
its extravagance.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:43 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:

That could compete... [?]

I'm not normally a gear head, but Top Gear has ignited a love of things
fast in me. When they did the segment on the Veyron, James May, said that,
while he was driving it, he almost got out while it was still doing 70 MPH.
It ran so smoothly and quietly that he actually thought that he'd stopped.
That speaks to the Primal Me.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:

You can burn rubber from gas station to gas station. :)

I think the Shelby Ultimate Aero is sexier and almost as fast. Take a
look:
http://www.itechnews.net/2009/01/28/shelby-ultimate-aero-ev-electric-sportscar-does-0-to-60-in-25-seconds/

You can get it all electric or gas powered. 1000hp.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:15 AM, Martin Baxter
martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:

She's nice, Mr Worf. But still, seeing that, my heart is drawn to
this...

Bugatti Veyron http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugatti_Veyron

Picture of
onehttp://dreamingrils.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/bugatti-veyron-mahal-3.jpg

Sure... it's Eco-EVIL. (8 MPG) But it goes 0-60 in 2.2 seconds. [?][?][?]
[?]

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:

Renault gives sneak peak of sporty DeZir electric concept car

By Darren Quick http://www.gizmag.com/author/darren-quick/

*01:04 July 9, 2010*

16
Pictureshttp://www.gizmag.com/renault-dezir-concept-electric-vehicle/15665/picture/117514/
[image: The Renault DeZir concept electric vehicle features
gull-wing doors that open in opposite
...]http://www.gizmag.com/renault-dezir-concept-electric-vehicle/15665/picture/117514/

The Renault DeZir concept electric vehicle features gull-wing doors
that open in opposite directions
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Galleryhttp://www.gizmag.com/renault-dezir-concept-electric-vehicle/15665/picture/117514/(16
images)
*
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: LeBron James The Decision top-ranked show on Thursday night

No problem with it either, rave. Just glad that I didn't watch.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

As I've stated previously, I find it both interesting and disheartening
that people are okay when corporations (the NBA, the New York Athletic Club,
the Kentucky Derby) put on one of these bloated hour-long programs with two
minutes of content but are aghast when an individual does it. Like the
police officer in Malcolm X most folks seem to think, That is too much
power for one black man to have!

I am not displeased that Mr. James' asserted his manhood right to apply
his trade where ever he wants to.

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Martin
Baxter martinbaxt...@... wrote:

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote:

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/07/09/lebron-james-the-decision-is-top-rated-tv-show-on-thursday/56595

Thursday night's LeBron James The Decision on ESPN drew a 7.3
household
rating in the preliminary overnight ratings.
Compare that to the top rated show on broadcast last night, a repeat of
The
Mentalist on CBS, which drew a 6.0 household rating in the preliminary
overnights.
Update: Here is ESPN's official press release.
A 7.3 is twice what an average NBA game ranks.

--
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody
hell
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

--
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: LeBron James The Decision top-ranked show on Thursday night

(standing ovation)

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Keith Johnson
keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:

And like i said, i hate it when done by corporations or individuals. There
is too much of this self-promoting, self-aggrandizing, famous because
you're famous culture going on nowadays. This was bloated and unnecessary.
You hear people talking about it who could care less about the NBA and
realize they're only talking about it because *others* are talking about it.
They're focused on James because he made himself a focus, along with ESPN's
help. Even in terms of basketball, this isn't really that big of a deal. By
that, I mean that the Heat possibly winning a championship isn't as huge as,
say, even if Michael Jordan had moved back in the day. Truth, this should
have been of interest to Cleveland, Miami, true NBA fans, and that's it. It
doesn't truly redefine the game or anything. And despite our talk of its
economic impact on Cleveland, that's not really the focus of the news
stories. It really is hey! Everyone said this is a big deal, so let's cover
it.
I find that troubling, and just because big business already does it, it
doesn't mean the individuals need to do it do. Maybe everyone needs to back
off a bit on this stuff...

- Original Message -
From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 7:20:04 AM
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: LeBron James The Decision top-ranked show on
Thursday night

As I've stated previously, I find it both interesting and disheartening
that people are okay when corporations (the NBA, the New York Athletic Club,
the Kentucky Derby) put on one of these bloated hour-long programs with two
minutes of content but are aghast when an individual does it. Like the
police officer in Malcolm X most folks seem to think, That is too much
power for one black man to have!

I am not displeased that Mr. James' asserted his manhood right to apply
his trade where ever he wants to.

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Martin
Baxter martinbaxt...@... wrote:

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote:

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/07/09/lebron-james-the-decision-is-top-rated-tv-show-on-thursday/56595

Thursday night's LeBron James The Decision on ESPN drew a 7.3
household
rating in the preliminary overnight ratings.
Compare that to the top rated show on broadcast last night, a repeat of
The
Mentalist on CBS, which drew a 6.0 household rating in the preliminary
overnights.
Update: Here is ESPN's official press release.
A 7.3 is twice what an average NBA game ranks.

--
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody
hell
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

--
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

Re: [scifinoir2] 10 Brands that may disappear in 2011

Keith, I just hope that it doesn't blow up in his face the same way it did
with Tony Whatzisface, BP's CEO. Granted, he is getting hit harder because
he's one of the top dogs, and his behavior just after his being relieved of
the detail (going to a yachting race) wasn't exactly sympathetic, but the
folks in the Gulf are already angry because BP's hosing them on the promised
payments. His being the face of BP, John Q Public or not, could result in
his face being the center of a number of bullseyes..

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Keith Johnson
keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:

I listened to an interview with him and he says he definitely volunteered
for it because he wanted to help his home. Buddy is a geologist by trade, I
believe, so isn't exactly groomed for the job of PR spokesman, but wanted to
help. He hasn't lived in the area for years, but his family is still there.
He spent time to help his mother after Katrina, and had to come back now. I
think BP took him frankly because he's black and from the area, making them
look both sensitive and progressive at the same time.

- Original Message -
From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 7:27:12 AM
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] 10 Brands that may disappear in 2011

Oh, yeah, I've seen that. I really don't believe for a second that he
volunteered for the detail. That's like volunteering to search a minefield
while astride a pogo stick.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:06 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:

Have you seen that new commercial that they have been running? They have a
claim hotline headed by a brotha. Dude may want to do a good job but that is
just ASKING for trouble.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 3:54 AM, Martin Baxter
martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:

This shouldn't hurt BP that much overall.

Unfortunately. I'm watching my local news right now, about a restaurant
that may have to lay off workers because they specialize in Gulf Coast
seafood, which they aren't getting because one of their primary suppliers
had to shut its doors indefinitely because of the spill, and lay off its
entire staff. And they haven't seena dime of that money that BP's so
reluctant to hand out.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 6:51 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:

This shouldn't hurt BP that much overall. They have been around a long
time and have thousands of wells. What they have spent so far on the clean
up is only about 1/3 of what they make in a quarter just from oil in this
region.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 3:28 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com
wrote:

Honestly, the only reason that I know that two of those ten still exist
is because my mother gets Reader's Digest and BP -- well, need I say? Now,
if BP decides to go away of its own accord after ceding all of its
corporate
coffers to those affected by the spill, I won't cry...

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

When I see an article like this I always think of the futuristic
movie Bladerunner where most of the companies of the future no longer
exist.

(from Wikipedia) RCA, which at one time was the United States' leading
consumer electronics and communications conglomerate, was bought out by
one-time parent GE in 1985, and dismantled. Atari, which dominated the
home
video game market when the film came out, never recovered from the next
year's downturn in the industry, and by the 1990s had ceased to represent
anything more than a brand, a back catalogue of games and some legacy
computers. Atari today is an entirely different firm, using the former
company's name. Cuisinart similarly went bankrupt in 1989, though it
lives
on under new ownership. The Bell System monopoly was broken up that same
year, and most of the resulting Regional Bell operating companies have
since
changed their names and merged back with each other and other companies
to
form the new ATT. Pan Am suffered the terrorist bombing/destruction of
Pan
Am Flight 103 and after a decade of mounting losses, finally went
bankrupt
in 1991 with the falloff in overseas travel caused by the Gulf War.

~rave?

http://finance.yahoo.com/banking-budgeting/article/110018/10-brands-that-may-disappear-in-2011

24/7 Wall St. has created a new list of brands that may disappear,
which includes Readers Digest, Kia Motors, Dollar Thrifty, Zale ,
Blockbuster, T-Mobile, BP Plc , RadioShack , Merrill Lynch and Moody's.

--
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody
hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

--
Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
Mahogany at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/

--
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody
hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: ATT threatening to drop IFC

Sooner or later the feds will need to step in.

I expect that will happen roughly ten minutes after Dick Shotgun Cheney
begins praising President Obama, Mr Worf.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:



 From the outside the entire process just seems convoluted and wacky. The
 same cable company can have a different line up for neighboring cities and
 sometimes completely different lineups in the same city!

 Sooner or later the feds will need to step in.

 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 5:09 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 Absolutely. When I first found that on my dial, I screamed. Literally,
 because they didn't give me G4 because of this crap.


 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 8:00 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:



 Some of the game shows on that channel seemed more like psych
 experiments from a B scifi movie.

 I remember one show in particular that kept three people in isolation for
 several days without sleep, then had them perform strange tasks for rewards.
 I think that they also had a segment where they had to shock the other
 contestants. Someone had to leave with some mental scaring.


 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Martin Baxter 
 martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 Mr Worf, in  all honesty -- Fox Reality Channel. (Which, I'm proud to
 say, DirecTV dumped two weeks ago.)


 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:



 I wonder what they would replace it with?

 It reminds me of what almost happened to public television back in the
 Bush sr. years. They were trying to shut it down completely at one point.
 There was a good hour or two before people were enraged to do something.

 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Martin Baxter 
 martinbaxt...@gmail.com wrote:



 Indeed, rave. Deity forfend anything that might possibly educate or
 uplift.


 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Was the first thing on my screen Thursday and Friday morning but,
 oddly, not today. All systems go through this song and dance when 
 contracts
 expire. Unfortunately I doubt there will be as much clamor to save IFC 
 as
 there were to save ESPN, Disney, TV Land and the like.

 ~(no)rave!


 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com,
 Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:
 
  On my tv right now they are scrolling across the screen that ATT
 Uverse is
  threatening to drop IFC from their service. Has anyone else seen
 this?
 
 
 
 
  --
  Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
  Mahogany at:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
 




 --
 If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody
 hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





 --
 Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
 Mahogany at:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/




 --
 If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody
 hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





 --
 Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
 Mahogany at:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/




 --
 If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
 wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





 --
 Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
 Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/

  




-- 
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

[scifinoir2] Re: LeBron James The Decision top-ranked show on Thursday night

I watched (as did the majority of the television watching public at that hour - 
you know who you are) and the whole undertaking was so bland and innocuous that 
I am amazed at all the reprobation the enterprise has engendered.  From all the 
strum and drang, you would think this was the end of civilization as we know it.

And that might not be a bad thing.

~(no)rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@... wrote:

 No problem with it either, rave. Just glad that I didn't watch.
 
 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote:
 
 
 
  As I've stated previously, I find it both interesting and disheartening
  that people are okay when corporations (the NBA, the New York Athletic Club,
  the Kentucky Derby) put on one of these bloated hour-long programs with two
  minutes of content but are aghast when an individual does it. Like the
  police officer in Malcolm X most folks seem to think, That is too much
  power for one black man to have!
 
  I am not displeased that Mr. James' asserted his manhood right to apply
  his trade where ever he wants to.
 
  ~rave!
 
 
  --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Martin
  Baxter martinbaxter7@ wrote:
  
   The across-the-board reaction I'm hearing in this is that, in the public
   eye, LeBron had lost a lots of fans over this. And not because he left
   Cleveland. I've heard that event described, most charitably, as an
   infomercial. Doesn't bother me only because I watch so few NBA games (a
   grand total of six this past season, counting the playoffs).
  
   On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Kelwyn ravenadal@ wrote:
  
   
   
   
   
  http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/07/09/lebron-james-the-decision-is-top-rated-tv-show-on-thursday/56595
   
Thursday night's LeBron James The Decision on ESPN drew a 7.3
  household
rating in the preliminary overnight ratings.
Compare that to the top rated show on broadcast last night, a repeat of
  The
Mentalist on CBS, which drew a 6.0 household rating in the preliminary
overnights.
Update: Here is ESPN's official press release.
A 7.3 is twice what an average NBA game ranks.
   
   
   
  
  
  
   --
   If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody
  hell
   wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant
  
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
  
 
   
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
 wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: ATT threatening to drop IFC

You're right about that.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 Sooner or later the feds will need to step in.

 I expect that will happen roughly ten minutes after Dick Shotgun Cheney
 begins praising President Obama, Mr Worf.


 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:



 From the outside the entire process just seems convoluted and wacky. The
 same cable company can have a different line up for neighboring cities and
 sometimes completely different lineups in the same city!

 Sooner or later the feds will need to step in.

 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 5:09 AM, Martin Baxter 
 martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 Absolutely. When I first found that on my dial, I screamed. Literally,
 because they didn't give me G4 because of this crap.


 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 8:00 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:



 Some of the game shows on that channel seemed more like psych
 experiments from a B scifi movie.

 I remember one show in particular that kept three people in isolation
 for several days without sleep, then had them perform strange tasks for
 rewards. I think that they also had a segment where they had to shock the
 other contestants. Someone had to leave with some mental scaring.


 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com
  wrote:



 Mr Worf, in  all honesty -- Fox Reality Channel. (Which, I'm proud to
 say, DirecTV dumped two weeks ago.)


 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:



 I wonder what they would replace it with?

 It reminds me of what almost happened to public television back in the
 Bush sr. years. They were trying to shut it down completely at one point.
 There was a good hour or two before people were enraged to do something.

 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Martin Baxter 
 martinbaxt...@gmail.com wrote:



 Indeed, rave. Deity forfend anything that might possibly educate or
 uplift.


 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Was the first thing on my screen Thursday and Friday morning but,
 oddly, not today. All systems go through this song and dance when 
 contracts
 expire. Unfortunately I doubt there will be as much clamor to save IFC 
 as
 there were to save ESPN, Disney, TV Land and the like.

 ~(no)rave!


 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com,
 Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:
 
  On my tv right now they are scrolling across the screen that ATT
 Uverse is
  threatening to drop IFC from their service. Has anyone else seen
 this?
 
 
 
 
  --
  Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
  Mahogany at:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
 




 --
 If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody
 hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





 --
 Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
 Mahogany at:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/




 --
 If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody
 hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





 --
 Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
 Mahogany at:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/




 --
 If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody
 hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





 --
 Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
 Mahogany at:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/




 --
 If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
 wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik


 




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Re: [scifinoir2] 10 Brands that may disappear in 2011

If it wasn't for Kmart, Sears would have been on the 2008 list. I think that
they are still in trouble a bit despite the recent remodeling. They may need
to make their business model more like Target and Walmart.

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 8:44 AM, George Arterberry 
brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I have not been in side a video store for at least five years if not more.
 The Netflix model and tapping into streaming  ended that nightmare. Everyone
 can't get to a Blockbuster on a Tuesday morning when the new titles come in
 .So you go on Friday or Saturday night and you are SOL.

 I still marvel at Kmart and Sears still hanging on. Sears was massive in my
 youth. Heck thats where my shopping for school began and ended as a young
 boy. Toughskins ,Winners and glasses from Sears eyecare.Mom didn't play.
 Sears fall from the dominant force in American retail is staggering. The
 suits at Kmart have stopped caring most in my neck of the woods have poor
 lighting, need a good scrubbing and lack volume. It seems like a place to
 get pillow-cases , Halloween costumes for the kids or a cheap pair of
 swimming trunks.



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 *From:* Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com
 *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Sat, July 10, 2010 1:31:13 PM

 *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] 10 Brands that may disappear in 2011



 Mr Worf, it's anything BUT that for Radio Shacks in my area. Once, I went
 into the one nearest where I live, and there were all of five people in the
 store.

 And three of them were employees. Of course, I must say that, less than 100
 meters away, is a Wal-Mart Supercenter.

 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 2:47 AM, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ 
 gmail.comhellomahog...@gmail.com
  wrote:



 I think that their days are numbered. They still haven't figured out their
 niche in the market. They keep updating their stores to appeal to the masses
 but have forgotten about the geek crowd. I went there a couple of weeks ago
 for a fuse and they only had very small selection. Despite that I still find
 myself going there when I need a cable or something.

 Depending on the store's location they can do a brisk business. The radio
 shack near my house is fairly busy despite being in the same mini mall as a
 Super Target because Target doesn't cover everything that's needed. (things
 like solder or electrical tape etc.)



 On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 11:15 PM, George Arterberry brotherfromhoward@
 yahoo.com brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com wrote:



  I'm perplexed how Radio Shack survives. I pass by the one in my area
 and its alwys empty. You go there for batteries and little do dats but
 little else. Then along the way the staff  became very aggresive to say the
 least.

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 *From:* Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com hellomahog...@gmail.com
 *To:* scifino...@yahoogro ups.com scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Sat, July 10, 2010 7:41:52 AM

 *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] 10 Brands that may disappear in 2011



 I agree with all of the items on this list. I think that the companies
 that are in trouble got too fat and lazy during the good years to switch
 gears during the melt down. Most companies seem to never plan far enough
 ahead for the What ifs? I don't get it.

 For example, Blockbuster had the chance to beat Netflix to the punch.
 They had the money and resources to create something that was cutting edge.
 By the time Netflix went public there were 10 other companies with similar
 business plans out there. (a few of them were based here in the bay area
 too) Blockbuster waited years after Netflix killed off most of their
 competition to enter on the field late with poor implementation. Most of the
 retail blockbuster stores are gone now. Only about 1/5th of the stores in
 this area are still open. The article mentioned that they may end up closing
 down all of their stores soon.

 Another example is Longs Drugs. They aren't on this list because they
 have already folded. They were a Northern California based chain that had
 500 stores in 10 states and were expanding up until the .com years. (they
 were literally at war with Walgreens) In 2003, the head of the chain stepped
 down and the people that were left began to see what a huge mess the company
 was. $2Billion a year in sales and they couldn't pay their suppliers? They
 eventually went through 5 or 6 new CEOs before they were eventually sold to
 CVS pharmacy in 2008. The last CEO at least attempted to restructure things
 and stop the hemorrhaging but by then the best option left was to sell.



  On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo. 
 comravena...@yahoo.com
  wrote:

 When I see an article like this I always think of the futuristic movie
  Bladerunner where most of the companies of the future no longer exist.

 (from Wikipedia) RCA, which at one time was the United States' leading
 consumer electronics and communications conglomerate, was bought out by
 one-time parent GE in 1985, and

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: LeBron James The Decision top-ranked show on Thursday night

Sorry, I have to disagree in relation to this particular case. I think this is 
less about white outrage at him being black, and simply people who need to get 
lives upset because a sports hero deserted him. If it were just about a 
uppity negro, blacks like me--who thinks he overhyped this, as did the 
media--wouldn't be irritated. Nor would all the blacks in Cleveland who 
idolized him (don't know how many there are) be as upset. The racial/racist 
angle is there as always: when blacks disappoint whites, you can be sure there 
are healthy doses of nig--r thrown around. But I can't blame all this on 
whites being pissed because a black man asserted himself. I see this in the 
same vein as the Paris Hilons, reality show stars, and increasing number of 
celebrities hot and cold who do anything they can to keep their names and faces 
in the media. Note that the least part of this whole thing being discussed in 
any circles other than sports nuts is the actual impact on the game of 
basketball. Rather, more discussion is on his Larry King interview, this, why 
he wasted an hour on what could have been a five-minute press statement, etc. 

Black or not, this is to me another step up the ladder of media-focus and 
celebrity that makes people care more about famous people's lives sometimes 
than their own... 

- Original Message - 
From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 11:55:58 AM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: LeBron James The Decision top-ranked show on 
Thursday night 






And I still think the scariest thing in America is a free black man. 

~rave! 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: 
 
 And like i said, i hate it when done by corporations or individuals. There is 
 too much of this self-promoting, self-aggrandizing, famous because you're 
 famous culture going on nowadays. This was bloated and unnecessary. You hear 
 people talking about it who could care less about the NBA and realize they're 
 only talking about it because *others* are talking about it. They're focused 
 on James because he made himself a focus, along with ESPN's help. Even in 
 terms of basketball, this isn't really that big of a deal. By that, I mean 
 that the Heat possibly winning a championship isn't as huge as, say, even if 
 Michael Jordan had moved back in the day. Truth, this should have been of 
 interest to Cleveland, Miami, true NBA fans, and that's it. It doesn't truly 
 redefine the game or anything. And despite our talk of its economic impact on 
 Cleveland, that's not really the focus of the news stories. It really is 
 hey! Everyone said this is a big deal, so let's cover it. 
 I find that troubling, and just because big business already does it, it 
 doesn't mean the individuals need to do it do. Maybe everyone needs to back 
 off a bit on this stuff... 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Kelwyn ravena...@... 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 7:20:04 AM 
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: LeBron James The Decision top-ranked show on 
 Thursday night 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 As I've stated previously, I find it both interesting and disheartening that 
 people are okay when corporations (the NBA, the New York Athletic Club, the 
 Kentucky Derby) put on one of these bloated hour-long programs with two 
 minutes of content but are aghast when an individual does it. Like the police 
 officer in Malcolm X most folks seem to think, That is too much power for 
 one black man to have! 
 
 I am not displeased that Mr. James' asserted his manhood right to apply his 
 trade where ever he wants to. 
 
 ~rave! 
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ wrote: 
  
  The across-the-board reaction I'm hearing in this is that, in the public 
  eye, LeBron had lost a lots of fans over this. And not because he left 
  Cleveland. I've heard that event described, most charitably, as an 
  infomercial. Doesn't bother me only because I watch so few NBA games (a 
  grand total of six this past season, counting the playoffs). 
  
  On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Kelwyn ravenadal@ wrote: 
  
   
   
   
   http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/07/09/lebron-james-the-decision-is-top-rated-tv-show-on-thursday/56595

   
   Thursday night's LeBron James The Decision on ESPN drew a 7.3 household 
   rating in the preliminary overnight ratings. 
   Compare that to the top rated show on broadcast last night, a repeat of 
   The 
   Mentalist on CBS, which drew a 6.0 household rating in the preliminary 
   overnights. 
   Update: Here is ESPN's official press release. 
   A 7.3 is twice what an average NBA game ranks. 
   
   
   
  
  
  
  -- 
  If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
  wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant 
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

Re: [scifinoir2] 10 Brands that may disappear in 2011