[scifinoir2] Conan was Re: Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-28 Thread B. Smith
Blasphemy!!! LOL. Conan did stuff like that in the books all the time. Conan, Tarzan, Doc Savage and other peak humans regularly perform flatout seemingly superhuman feats so those have never bugged me. The only thing that bugged me about the movies was the origin story. Conan as a placid

Re: [scifinoir2] Conan was Re: Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-28 Thread KeithBJohnson
okay, okay, i'll give you some of that! But surely you can't defend that scene in the second flick when conan defeats the wizard by smashing all his mirrors! Was that corny or what? And what kind of idiot wizard lets a guy with a big A sword into a room full of breakable glass that's the source

[scifinoir2] Conan was Re: Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-28 Thread B. Smith
Agreed on that scene and yes Howard's views soured me on his work. He may not have been a rabid racist like H. P. Lovecraft or Jackkk London but he was a man of his time. Plus his close friendship with that repugnant troll Lovecraft raised all sorts of flags. He actually had some decent black

Re: [scifinoir2] Conan was Re: Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History

2007-12-28 Thread KeithBJohnson
I know little about Lovecraft other than references to him in everything from Clive Barker's work to the Real Ghostbusters cartoon. He was a bigot? I heard that about Jack London, but didn't know it was that bad. -- Original message -- From: B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]