Re: [scifinoir2] FW: Nova Program Battle of the X-Planes

2005-11-03 Thread KeithBJohnson
Do you have a background in the aerospace industry, military experience, or just a passion for aircraft? I've enjoyed your responses. -- Original message -- In a message dated 11/1/05 7:39:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: About looking good, I have to agree...It is

[scifinoir2] Re: 50 Cent Disagrees With Kanye West

2005-11-03 Thread sancochojo
So what are you saying? We as black people cannot have a civil discource without killing each other. Is that what you are saying? We are uncivil and having differences of opinion is a hazzard to our health? So sad that one black person cannot disagree with another. Are you the same way when

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 50 Cent Disagrees With Kanye West

2005-11-03 Thread yinka oyekunle
Interesting point. As human beings we should be able to voice our disagreement (free from uncivil discourse). However, given our particular socio/economic condition in America, 50's remarks are only symptomatic of a greater problem. 50 is entitled to his beliefs, but his view the possible

[scifinoir2] Re: 50 Cent Disagrees With Kanye West

2005-11-03 Thread sancochojo
I agree with you to an extent. But you say that, This is a society that places negative destructive attributes to being Black, yet our anger towards each other is just as destructive when we have dissenting view points. We as a people must learn how to use restraint. Especially among

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 50 Cent Disagrees With Kanye West

2005-11-03 Thread yinka oyekunle
hmmm... I agree that differing views should not generate anger. We do not share a single mind its diversity of thought that has helped us (heman beings in general) advance or survive. However, Black people in America r in a slightly particular situation. Pop culture plays a huge role in our

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 50 Cent Disagrees With Kanye West

2005-11-03 Thread KeithBJohnson
If you read my post, you'll see I said nothing about Blacks not being able to disagree. I didn't say we had to be homogeneous in words or deeds. I was specifically refering to the narrow world of rappers who continually bash each other. And look: if people just disagreed that'd be fine. But if

[scifinoir2] Re: 50 Cent Disagrees With Kanye West

2005-11-03 Thread sancochojo
If anybody should have had some level of contraint because of how it could impact our community, it was Kanye West. I won't even address the manner in which he communicated his frustration. Such a comment was completely uncivil and it gained us nothing as a people, especially with those in

[scifinoir2] Re: 50 Cent Disagrees With Kanye West

2005-11-03 Thread sancochojo
50 Cent epitomizes some many stereotypes just hearing his name alone makes me sick. I agree You said... I really liked that he made use on his pop status to at the least bring to light a topic that needs to be addressed Bush hates black people. How much debate can we get from that. Even if

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 50 Cent Disagrees With Kanye West

2005-11-03 Thread KeithBJohnson
Well said, that was my point. 50 has the right to say what he wants. But he also has a responsibility to think before he speaks. How about good old-fashioned humility and respect? As I said before, he could have said it with respect. We keep letting folks off because they're rich or edgy or

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 50 Cent Disagrees With Kanye West

2005-11-03 Thread yinka oyekunle
hmmm... The question is, what is getting worse. Do we wait for White people that like us to do something, or do we do something to help ourselves. To me that is a sign of weakness when we can't help ourselves. Sorry bruh, but I was not implying that we wait for Whites to help us (not sure if

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 50 Cent Disagrees With Kanye West

2005-11-03 Thread yinka oyekunle
hmmm... (that must be my favorite word 2day) I guess I totally disgree w/ 50 on that particular issue. he did also say that Kanye owes him I don't know the exact words used... if u do please tell me/us) but I do knw that he came off pretty arrogant (almost jeaulous) this was his attempt 2 dis

[scifinoir2] Re: 50 Cent Disagrees With Kanye West

2005-11-03 Thread sancochojo
Yeah, he said this. 50 Cent, 30 years old, told journalists that Kanye was the first thing that came along after his music, and that's why he thinks West is successful because of him. 50 also declared that Kanye is a good producer, but he doesn't have a style of his own to impress people

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 50 Cent Disagrees With Kanye West

2005-11-03 Thread yinka oyekunle
ditto. Tho, the wars seem 2 be relaegated 2 the realm of hip-hop. I may be wrong. Has this transcended into other genres of black music? Wasn't this kinda part of hip-hop rap, the battle between 2 MC's? (only now its been perverted, exaggerated exploited) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Well

Re: [scifinoir2] FW: Nova Program Battle of the X-Planes

2005-11-03 Thread Astromancer
I have a love for all things aerospace and science...I knew when I was young, you had to be a test pilot in order to be an astronaut...Remember that I was born at the end of the Jet Age and the beginning of the Space age... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Do you have a background in the aerospace

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 50 Cent Disagrees With Kanye West

2005-11-03 Thread Astromancer
The reason white say that is, because of the media (social engineering), Thay are incapable of putting themselves in our shoes...Nor are the blacks that buy into it... sancochojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:So what are you saying? We as black people cannot have a civil discource without killing

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 50 Cent Disagrees With Kanye West

2005-11-03 Thread yinka oyekunle
Thanks. I was right, he does sound arrogant jealous. sancochojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, he said this. 50 Cent, 30 years old, told journalists that Kanye was the first thing that came along after his music, and that's why he thinks West is successful because of him. 50 also

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Threshold a Promising Series

2005-11-03 Thread KeithBJohnson
Thank God! A scifi-related, non-50 Cent post! :) -- Original message -- Crap, but true... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:That's crap. -- Original message -- BTW, they replaced Sci-Fi with the Golf Channel...(gag!!!) Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [scifinoir2] Humor: Faux News

2005-11-03 Thread Brent Wodehouse
g123curious [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://mysite.verizon.net/vze1ldyn/id2.html I thought the lovely Soledad O'Brien was still on with CNN's 'American Morning'. Why is she included instead as a Fox mouthpiece? Brent Enjoy! George Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

[scifinoir2] Re: Humor: Faux News

2005-11-03 Thread g123curious
A, I see we have a Soledad O'Brien fan/fanatic on SciFiNoir2. (smile) I did not create the site. I only forwarded the URL. Yes, she is fine. And the Faux News images are still hilarious. George --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Brent Wodehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought the

[scifinoir2] Re: 50 Cent Disagrees With Kanye West

2005-11-03 Thread jjai eLf
i agree with both of you. by the way, since this is my first post i'd just like to say to everyone hello and it's good to be back at sci fi noir. i was upset when i got word of the first one being shut down. :( --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's why I said

[scifinoir2] Fw: Vatican wants an end to battle with science

2005-11-03 Thread Amy Harlib
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Vatican wants an end to battle with science URL to an interesting article that appeared in MSNBC http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9913712/ It has only taken 405 years, since Giordano Bruno was burned at the stake, for the Catholic Church to start to become reconciled

Re: [scifinoir2] 50 Cent Disagrees With Kanye West

2005-11-03 Thread Leslee Freeman
50 cent is ignorant. I heard what he had to say about this, and it made no sense. He is just trying to get something started to increase popularity. Besides, he also told 3 black DJs and predominately black audience in LA on Wednesday that white women have it going on in response to a jest that

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Threshold a Promising Series

2005-11-03 Thread Astromancer
50 what? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Thank God! A scifi-related, non-50 Cent post! :) -- Original message -- Crap, but true... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:That's crap. -- Original message -- BTW, they replaced Sci-Fi with the Golf Channel...(gag!!!)

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: 50 Cent Disagrees With Kanye West

2005-11-03 Thread Keith Johnson
Hey, let's remember it's about respect. I have no problem with Blacks disagreeing with each other, but I do think we can respect each other-and we should try to get along as much as possible. Enough of that! Welcome back, and let's get some good scifi discussions going. What do you have for us???

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: 50 Cent Disagrees With Kanye West

2005-11-03 Thread Keith Johnson
You're on point, which is why I was careful to confine this to the rap/hip-hop world, unfortunately. -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of yinka oyekunle Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 14:34 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject:

Re: [scifinoir2] Happy Thanksgiving!

2005-11-03 Thread Astromancer
Hilarious George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:This really made me laugh. I hope that you enjoy it too: http://www.msn.americangreetings.com/view.pd?i=382219626m=1652rr=ysou George Captain The USS Ronald E. McNair (Boston) __ Yahoo! Mail -

Re: [scifinoir2] FW: Nova Program Battle of the X-Planes

2005-11-03 Thread GWashin891
In a message dated 11/3/05 9:03:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you have a background in the aerospace industry, military experience, or just a passion for aircraft? I've enjoyed your responses. Hah! Don't I wish. :D Nah I'm just a person who's done alot of reasearch. Keeps