Hi,
Debian has just update their version of SCons, and now it runs on
Python 3 not Python 2. Win.
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good idea.
Of course SConstruct files can already use pathlib, I know I do.
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eporting them dropped their effective priority.
>
> Thoughts?
I was never able to get involved in triaging since the meeting were always
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een able
> to test anything.
Thanks for taking a look into it. It seems like Chocolatey is not playing
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> > It turns out there are a number problems with the SCons tests running on
> > Windows, many of them associated with the D support.
> >
> > https://github.com/SCons/scons/issues/3205
> >
> > As you will see I am choosing not to get i
gt; That seems likely to be useful..
I'd say switching to subprocess.Popen was just the right thing to do. The
Python 2.7 documentation says this is so.
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nsider competitors to SCons, Meson is the threat.
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> and go forward with a new vote.
The +1, 0, -1 system has it's faults, but the explicitness of the
voting system is a good thing. That there is a quorum required for a
vote to win is a very good thing.
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> Side note: at work (ATC context) I'm still stuck to Python 2.6 and
> SCons 2.4-1 IIRC, under SLES11 SP2. :)
>
Sounds like luxury compared to the Prague ATC system.
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cannot claim it is being supported. PSF have basically returned to the
position that Python 2 has gone end of life.
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quire Python 3.6 and drop support for Python 2.7? If yes
then people not on Python 3.6 simply stay with SCons 3.0.X.
For me this is all about consistency: you can't demand cutting edge
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dropping 3.5 and 2.7 and refactoring the codebase to 3.6.
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>
> 2.7 +1 == 2.8 =)
That will only happen if someone forks Python 2, PSF are never going to
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once 3.7 is out (that likely next month, no?), 3.5
> > > should be
> > > dropped. Can't test every version.
>
> +1 for dropping 3.5. 3.7 has some nifty features, but that maybe
> incompatible with 2.7
+1 for dropping 2.7 ;-)
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Hi,
It seems Debian has now got BuildBot Server and WorkerAgent packages
for Python3.
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ora Rawhide and OSX El Capitan.
> BTW. The buildbot worker running scons tests is ubuntu 14.04 LTS currently.
I suspect the D-related tests are not being on that platform, or there would
be a few issues heading my way for looking at. :-)
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>
> Whilst there have been problems with ldc and gdc in the past these are now
> all
> fixed.
>
[…]
> Use Debian Sid, install ldc and gdc from Debian packages. Set up D-Apt and
> install from there. Sorry but that i
Thanks Bill for doing this all so quickly. Thanks again to Anatoly for raising
the issue and to Dirk for chipping in.
Cloning now way faster.
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metaclasses,
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Excellent. Thanks for putting in so much effort so as to make this happen.
Can we switch to hosting the release tarballs on GitHub as the primary
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A sad day and a happy day.
Thanks for all your effort doing the switch.
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On Fri, 2017-09-15 at 15:44 +0100, Russel Winder wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just did a "scons tar-gz" in my clone of the Mercurial repository, and the
> clang.* and clangxx.* tools are not in the build even though they are in the
> repository.
I think cxx.py is also missing
manifest is a good
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Hi,
I just did a "scons tar-gz" in my clone of the Mercurial repository, and the
clang.* and clangxx.* tools are not in the build even though they are in the
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Bill,
Apologies you had to construct DCommon.xml. Clearly I failed to run a
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ools changed SHOBJSUFFIX
> then
> your immediate and most likely issue should be handled.
'fraid not. It may fix the dmd and ldc situation but it leaves all the
cc and c++ related tools broken in the default tool set and so all the
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in the dmd and ldc
tools. Does anyone know where $TARGET gets defined so I can cut and paste into
the dmd and ldc tools avoiding the use of the default suffix?
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st I agree with the current functionality of BitBucket the two are
separate, if SCons switches to Git then there are no reasons to stay with
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>
> On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Russel Winder <rus...@winder.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
[…]
> > But no-one else in SCons-land seems interested in these things that come
> > as
> >
vis-CI, Codeship, etc.
would be good for the SCons project. This is as much about publicity and
marketing as it is about CI.
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biggest hurdles is CLion requiring CMake for C++ projects.
Another issue is of course the inertia behind people sticking with Make and
Autotools.
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than make Python 3 a second
class citizen by file naming – albeit not true in reality, but the file
names are powerful indicators to the casual observer.
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do that. What change do I need to make for it to work?
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text that will always be the case, so it should be
fine.
I can definitely live with this as an idiom.
I am now just embarrassed to have found this problem. :-)
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Apparently the D frontend GDC has been accepted in as part of GCC. So once
everything has settled down, and a new release made, gdc will come with gcc,
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[…]
> I got active and picked up Paweł Tomulik's clang and clang++ tools and
> added
> some basic tests. I am going to put forward a pull request so we have
> something in to evolve.
Pull request at https://bitbucket.org/s
just the compiler, I have got clang and clang++ tool from Paweł
Tomulik and am preparing a pull request. This should give a base from which
to build something more Clangish.
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and
g++.py.
Assuming someone hasn't already done this, and assuming no-one can see a
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s something to it.
>
I spotted those but they looked more like tools to get round the lack of
integration of clang rather than proposals for proper integration. Or did I
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> On Tue, 2017-06-06 at 13:33 -0400, Bill Deegan wrote:
> > Py 3.5 or 3.6?
> > Excellent!
>
> I'm currently on Debian Sid so sadly only 3.5.3. I'll switch to
> Fedora
> Rawhide for tomorrow and that is 3.6.?
SCon
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On Tue, 2017-06-06 at 11:35 -0400, Bill Deegan wrote:
> Remove your .sconsign file and run again.
>
> It's still on the to fix list..
:-)
OK, I am now a "Using SCons with Python 3" person.
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>
> If I accidentally resolved that issue too, just add it to the
> CHANGES.txt.
>
> V/R,
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As far as I am aware Linux UTF-8 filestores never use BOMs. However
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Did untested tools get put into the repo?
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he Groovy: to those that do is given the power to decide.
Given that the two core activists want change form Mercurial to Git,
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nd then putting a solution in place. I can give that
a go in a couple of weeks. It is though nothing to do with the current
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It appears the three images for the Badges at the top of the front page
of teh website have gone awol.
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any further tweaks, run it,
switch to BitBucket and leave ourselves open to a better workflow. And
ignore the moans from people who like the Tigris system.
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Can someone point me to instructions for running a build of the docs so
as to test tool documentation XML isn't broken?
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Were people aware of this:
https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pcpp
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> > On Sun, 2017-04-16 at 11:19 -0700, Bill Deeg
will be achieved this way.
Hopefully, what has started is a race for SCons and Meson to beat Dub
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I am
finding it difficult to enter into the world of custom builders beyond
the trivial stuff I hacked up from wiki pages a few years back.
> On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 1:42 AM, Russel Winder <rus...@winder.org.uk>
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> > I see that pydoc on SCons.Buil
the right things in a simulacrum of the proper way.
With luck I'll have an "all source at once" D compilation builder so as
to test unit-test library use.
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a reference, not great as a
tutorial.
I am contemplate a PsuedoBuilder to wrap a Command, seems like an
easier way that doing it from the ground up. Assuming I haven't
misunderstood the examples I have seen.
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I know about runtest.py and all the in the Mercurial repository
testing, but didn't we also have a framework for testing tools and
things outside the repository?
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You know how you find the problem just after sending the email. That.
Sorry for the noise.
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