Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php

2015-05-19 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 10:27 PM, Dirk Bächle tshor...@gmx.de wrote: On 18.05.2015 21:05, anatoly techtonik wrote: [...] I am not barring anybody from doing anything. I just don't want poor choices be made just because somebody did the work. As a result of last choices I don't like that

Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php

2015-05-19 Thread anatoly techtonik
Sometimes I idealize things too much, so I saw that new SCons site should be release together with new major SCons version. Getting activity stream would be helpful, yes. I often use this on GitHub to track the progress. But that requires aggregating data from mailing lists, repository and

Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php

2015-05-19 Thread Bill Deegan
Wiki down almost guaranteed because someone DOS'd it and the hosting provider chmod'd the wiki's script to non-executable. This is like the 10+'th time this has happened. I'll see if we can resolve. -Bill On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 3:23 AM, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com wrote: Sometimes I

Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php

2015-05-18 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Bill Deegan b...@baddogconsulting.com wrote: Anatoly, Last I checked SCons was an open source project. Any part thereof that anyone wants to work on that help is welcome. As long as that doesn't mean that the project should accept *any* work. I know that

Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php

2015-05-18 Thread Dirk Bächle
Anatoly, On 18.05.2015 21:05, anatoly techtonik wrote: [...] I am not barring anybody from doing anything. I just don't want poor choices be made just because somebody did the work. As a result of last choices I don't like that the SCons repository is bloated and that it uses DocBook (so

Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php

2015-05-18 Thread Kenny, Jason L
to talk about to make SCons better as make a good BKM for how to make SCons useful to others. Jason -Original Message- From: Scons-dev [mailto:scons-dev-boun...@scons.org] On Behalf Of Dirk Bächle Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 2:28 PM To: scons-dev@scons.org Subject: Re: [Scons-dev] Review

Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php

2015-05-18 Thread William Blevins
, 2015 2:28 PM To: scons-dev@scons.org Subject: Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php Anatoly, On 18.05.2015 21:05, anatoly techtonik wrote: [...] I am not barring anybody from doing anything. I just don't want poor choices be made just because somebody did the work. As a result

Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php

2015-05-18 Thread Bill Deegan
Dirk, Sure. If you can go through the pages and fix any links which point to the old site (not wiki pages of course). Also, if you can make a file per item on the news.php page that would be awesome, you can copy the news date in to the :date: field in the file and then it should order them

Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php

2015-05-17 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi Bill, On 17.05.2015 00:55, Bill Deegan wrote: All, Here's something preliminary: http://scons.org/new/ thank you so much for already action on this! I like the layout of the new page a lot, and would really support switching to it...however, see my comment #3 below. Try creating

Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php

2015-05-17 Thread Bill Deegan
Dirk, The theme is based on bootstrap. Here's my fork of it. I'm working on cleaning up a bit and removing some parts we don't need. https://bitbucket.org/bdbaddog/scons-pelican-bootstrap3 Here's an online color themer for bootstrap. https://pikock.github.io/bootstrap-magic/ I'd like to get

Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php

2015-05-17 Thread Bill Deegan
Dirk, re: RSS Check out: http://scons.org/new/feeds/all.rss.xml I think I can put some feed icons in all the page footers. Also a link to the repo(s) for the website (which Re clipping: If you make the page really wide or zoom out it'll reshuffle and not do that. Yes. I'll redo the top

Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php

2015-05-17 Thread Bill Deegan
Dirk, also re feeds see: http://docs.getpelican.com/en/3.5.0/settings.html?highlight=feeds#feed-settings We can enable different types of feeds as well. -Bill On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Bill Deegan b...@baddogconsulting.com wrote: Dirk, re: RSS Check out:

Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php

2015-05-17 Thread Dirk Bächle
Bill, On 17.05.2015 22:13, Bill Deegan wrote: Dirk, also re feeds see: http://docs.getpelican.com/en/3.5.0/settings.html?highlight=feeds#feed-settings We can enable different types of feeds as well. thanks for your clarifications regarding the frame misplacement or clipping...it's all

Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php

2015-05-16 Thread Bill Deegan
All, Here's something preliminary: http://scons.org/new/ Try creating some files in the contents/new directory and send some pull requests. Here's the repo: https://bitbucket.org/scons/scons-new-website The look and feel will/can change. I'm just curious if folks (looking at you Dirk) can give

Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php

2015-05-15 Thread Bill Deegan
Perhaps you all are not aware that the reason the wiki has been shut down numerous times is that the load generated on the free server we get from pair.com has exceeded the level they are willing to accept. Any solution we pick which would increase the load on that server would only ensure that

Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php

2015-05-15 Thread Bill Deegan
Anatoly, Last I checked SCons was an open source project. Any part thereof that anyone wants to work on that help is welcome. I know that perhaps you don't view the website's aesthetics as having any level of importance. However, not everyone may or will agree with you. So that said, if I or

Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php

2015-05-14 Thread Bill Deegan
Dirk, Pelican can do RSS and Atom feeds. Let me setup something simple and we can give it a try. -Bill On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 5:18 AM, Dirk Bächle tshor...@gmx.de wrote: Bill, On 14.05.2015 03:59, Bill Deegan wrote: Also remember there's two different items in the web site. The static

Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php

2015-05-14 Thread Dirk Bächle
On 14.05.2015 14:17, Bill Deegan wrote: Dirk, Pelican can do RSS and Atom feeds. Let me setup something simple and we can give it a try. Yeah okay, sounds good. However, this is not high prio I guess...so you can keep it really basic for now. Let's just see how the RSS/Atom stuff works,

Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php

2015-05-14 Thread anatoly techtonik
My 0.02 cents is site works is not as important as wiki. And unless any of us have an education in webdesign or a good experience with, I doubt that anybody will produce a theme that is not stolen from some Bootstrap designs. Using original design that not so modern might be better than using

Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php

2015-05-14 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi Anatoly, On 14.05.2015 19:00, anatoly techtonik wrote: My 0.02 cents is site works is not as important as wiki. And unless any of us have an education in webdesign or a good experience with, I doubt that anybody will produce a theme that is not stolen from some Bootstrap designs. and why

Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php

2015-05-14 Thread Kenny, Jason L
developer list Subject: Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php On 14.05.2015 14:17, Bill Deegan wrote: Dirk, Pelican can do RSS and Atom feeds. Let me setup something simple and we can give it a try. Yeah okay, sounds good. However, this is not high prio I guess...so you can keep

Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php

2015-05-14 Thread Bill Deegan
for sending out notifications? Just asking... Jason -Original Message- From: Scons-dev [mailto:scons-dev-boun...@scons.org] On Behalf Of Dirk Bächle Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 11:10 AM To: SCons developer list Subject: Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php On 14.05.2015 14

Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php

2015-05-14 Thread Dirk Bächle
Jason, On 14.05.2015 21:48, Kenny, Jason L wrote: As far as this goes would it not be better to use something like twitter/google+/facebook for sending out notifications? Just asking... ideally it would be all of them. ;) But as always there are two sides: the purely technical side, where

Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php

2015-05-14 Thread Kenny, Jason L
-boun...@scons.org] On Behalf Of Bill Deegan Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:11 PM To: SCons developer list Subject: Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php Jason Twitter is already set up for mercurial commits from bitbucket. But likely the news won't be high enough bandwidth that a manual post

Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php

2015-05-14 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 9:50 PM, Dirk Bächle tshor...@gmx.de wrote: On 14.05.2015 19:00, anatoly techtonik wrote: My 0.02 cents is site works is not as important as wiki. And unless any of us have an education in webdesign or a good experience with, I doubt that anybody will produce a theme

Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php

2015-05-14 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 11:22 PM, Dirk Bächle tshor...@gmx.de wrote: someone has to actually write and publish stuff with the selected technology. I'm definitely more interested in the latter So, the question is the workflow or design? Current workflow requires access to repository, and

Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php

2015-05-14 Thread Dirk Bächle
Bill, On 14.05.2015 03:59, Bill Deegan wrote: Also remember there's two different items in the web site. The static part which is controlled by the few committers to the scons website repo, and the wiki which is intended to be more open. and the first static part is what I'm interested in.

Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php

2015-05-13 Thread Dirk Bächle
Hi Bill, On 13.05.2015 21:59, Bill Deegan wrote: Greetings, I think this page either needs to be deleted altogether as I beleive much of the information is now incorrect: * testing system was revamped and qmtest removed wasn't it? yes, a review would do good for sure. I really don't want

Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php

2015-05-13 Thread Bill Deegan
Dirk, As a member of the plone community (I manage baypiggies.net). I'm thinking it's likely overkill. I've been playing with pelican (static site generator) and that combined with a hg or git repo and some scripting would turn out pretty nicely I think. Not to mention would have a much lighter

[Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php

2015-05-13 Thread Bill Deegan
Greetings, I think this page either needs to be deleted altogether as I beleive much of the information is now incorrect: * testing system was revamped and qmtest removed wasn't it? -Bill ___ Scons-dev mailing list Scons-dev@scons.org

Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php

2015-05-13 Thread Dirk Bächle
On 13.05.2015 22:53, Bill Deegan wrote: Dirk, As a member of the plone community (I manage baypiggies.net http://baypiggies.net). I'm thinking it's likely overkill. I'm watching Home Improvement Season 1 Episode 2 right now on YouTube... What do we need? More power! ;) I've been playing

Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php

2015-05-13 Thread Bill Deegan
If it's hg or git backed, then they can just make pull requests. No problem. This would eliminate any spam problem. -Bill On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 6:01 PM, Dirk Bächle tshor...@gmx.de wrote: On 13.05.2015 22:53, Bill Deegan wrote: Dirk, As a member of the plone community (I manage

Re: [Scons-dev] Review scons.org/guidelines.php

2015-05-13 Thread Bill Deegan
Also remember there's two different items in the web site. The static part which is controlled by the few committers to the scons website repo, and the wiki which is intended to be more open. The way the wiki is configured is such that all changes have to be approved unless they have superuser