Re: [SMW-devel] SMW 3.0: Rework List format?

2017-06-15 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hi, Just briefly: I support the suggested changes. Much of the current code has been kept for legacy reasons and one can surely streamline and systematize things now using all the experience gathered over the years. Cheers, Markus On 14.06.2017 22:12, Stephan Gambke via Semediawiki-devel w

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW: case insensitive comparison

2016-10-09 Thread James HK
Hi, > What I mean is ability to match both "Sample page" and "Sample Page", > "sample Page", etc property values for query like this: > > {{#ask: [[Title::sample page]] }} > As far as I know it was not possible in SMW 2.3, did it change or maybe > there is some kind of workaround exists? [0] may

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW docker?

2016-08-18 Thread Samuel Lampa
On 2016-02-19 22:50, Anton wrote: > Looks good. > > RDFIO doesnt seem to be getting much love. A similar project is > Fresnel Forms. > https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2015/Fresnel_Forms Interesting, gotta check this out, thanks! Best // Samuel -

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW working together with extension:Wikibase?

2016-07-06 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, The conflict of the property namespace is the only issue that I can think of. And I suspect you can get around that by configuring one of the two to use a different name for this namespace. Then again, I've not tried this, so might well be wrong. Beware that Wikibase is nowhere near as ready

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW docker?

2016-02-19 Thread Anton
Looks good. RDFIO doesnt seem to be getting much love. A similar project is Fresnel Forms. https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2015/Fresnel_Forms -- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Applicati

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW docker?

2016-02-19 Thread Samuel Lampa
JFYI: If anyone is interested in an Ansible-configred docker (so that you can use the same playbook for a virtualbox or cloud image instead), I have started out at [1]. Only made it to MW so far though, but the plan is to add roles for SMW and RDFIO on top of that, as soon as time permits. [1] ht

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW docker?

2016-01-03 Thread James HK
Hi, > I am wanting to play around with SMW, and am wondering, is there a docker > available? Somewhat experimental (I haven't used it) but user @benhutchins wrote "I've used SMW inside my docker image, checkout https://github.com/milcord/docker-internal-mediawiki which is a docker image extended

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW, SRF, HeaderTabs and Mobile Frontend

2015-06-03 Thread James HK
Hi, In regards to SMW and MF (MobileFrontend), see [0]. [0] https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/pull/1049 Cheers On 6/3/15, Krabina Bernhard wrote: > Dear all, > > does anyody have expierience with the Mobile Frontend extension [1] that is > responsible for a special version

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW Ontologies

2015-05-10 Thread John McClure
Hi Valerio, Sure, the extension includes an abstract class SMWOntology that can be inherited as you wish. What you'll get are methods for storing (page/subobject) property values and also update.php -related processing... And of course, you'll be able to examine the concrete classes when creati

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW Ontologies

2015-05-10 Thread John McClure
Hello Markus, it's very nice to hear from you. Sure - that URI you mention is the same value I happen to assign to the Property:dc:title page's smw:uri property. But no, this uri doesnt need to be output during RDF export since the value of the smw:uri property provided for the Dublin Core's On

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW Ontologies

2015-05-09 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hi John, Sounds interesting, but I don't think I fully understand the functionality yet. In particular, how is the data that is thus recorded related to the DC vocabulary? For example, dc:title is a property with the URI http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/title. Is this URI then used in the RDF e

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW Factbox

2015-04-09 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey John, Thanks for the observation and suggestion. Can you file this on our issue tracker [0] so we do not lose track of it? [0] https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/issues Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw - http://www.bn2vs.com Software craftsmanship advocate Developer at Wikimedia

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW useful for publishing public sector information - Come to 3rd Share-PSI workshop

2015-04-07 Thread Kaempgen, Benedikt (AIFB)
t;mailto:semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> Betreff: Re: [SMW-devel] SMW useful for publishing public sector information - Come to 3rd Share-PSI workshop Hi Benedikt, Wow a very interesting workshop, and an excellent compilation of the issues I would *definitely* attend remotely - will

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW useful for publishing public sector information - Come to 3rd Share-PSI workshop

2015-02-18 Thread Kaempgen, Benedikt (AIFB)
kit.edu%2fweb%2fHauptseite%2fen> Von: John McClure [mailto:jmccl...@hypergrove.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. Februar 2015 19:05 An: semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: Re: [SMW-devel] SMW useful for publishing public sector information - Come to 3rd Share-PSI workshop Hi Benedikt,

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW useful for publishing public sector information - Come to 3rd Share-PSI workshop

2015-02-17 Thread John McClure
Hi Benedikt, Wow a very interesting workshop, and an excellent compilation of the issues I would *definitely* attend remotely - will this be possible? cheers/john On 2/17/2015 5:03 PM, Kaempgen, Benedikt (AIFB) wrote: Dear SMW users and developers, Many SMWs are used for sharing public sector i

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW Ontologies

2015-01-15 Thread John McClure
Thanks Martin for your thoughtful reply. I agree completely that an IDE for SMW would be measurably useful to developers and editors (eschewing the term 'user' here, per standard MW definition that a user is someone with 'read' privledge on a wiki, not necessarily 'edit' privledge) for obvious

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW/GraphViz interop bug

2014-11-29 Thread Keith Welter
James, thanks for the prompt reply. I'm satisfied that disabling the SMW hooks when GraphViz does an upload will have no bad consequences because GraphViz does not supply any page text on this code path. A user could edit the file page after the upload is complete and supply page text/annotations

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW/GraphViz interop bug

2014-11-29 Thread James HK
Hi, This may be of interest, Stephan run into a similar `Parser->lock` issue on MW 1.24 with SF (see [0]). [0] https://github.com/WikiApiary/WikiApiary/issues/209#issuecomment-64195735 Cheers On 11/30/14, James HK wrote: > Hi, > > Just to clarify, NewRevisionFromEditComplete does not have (or

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW/GraphViz interop bug

2014-11-29 Thread James HK
Hi, Just to clarify, NewRevisionFromEditComplete does not have (or for that matter makes) access to the Parser directly and relies on the information provided by WikitextContent::prepareContentForEdit object. Whether WikitextContent::prepareContentForEdit returns an `editinfo` object from a cached

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW in Google Code-In 2014?

2014-11-07 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey Stephan, I'd love to see SMW participate and am willing to help with it a bit (though not pull it). I was also going to point you to the easy label in our issue tracker, but apparently we have nothing much tagged as such: https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/issues?q=is%3Aop

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW Search extensions

2014-08-22 Thread Ryan Glasnapp
Thanks, I'm already using Drilldown with some custom templates to provide alternate browsing method. I knew of the filtered result in SRF, but hadn't thought of using it like some of your example Neill. Thanks I'll take a closer look at that. --Ryan On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Yury Katkov

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW Search extensions

2014-08-22 Thread Argbert
regards Argi -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Yury Katkov [mailto:katkov.ju...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 22. August 2014 17:49 An: Ryan Glasnapp Cc: Semantic MediaWiki developers Betreff: Re: [SMW-devel] SMW Search extensions Hi Ryan! I you want a fully-fledged faceted search with full-text

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW Search extensions

2014-08-22 Thread Yury Katkov
Hi Ryan! I you want a fully-fledged faceted search with full-text search features, like the one you see in Amazon, and that can replace MediaWiki search, then the answer is no. There is no such tool for SMW. Your options: 1) Semantic Drilldown. Faceted search without fulltext search support. + V

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW Search extensions

2014-08-22 Thread Neill Mitchell
Hi Ryan. There is the Filtered format of the Semantic Results Format extension. I often couple it with a Semantic Forms runQuery to provide search capabilities with property filters. You can see it working on a site we're currently building here: http://www.prescientsoftware.co.uk/localoffer_

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW 2.0 or 10.0?

2014-01-26 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, 2.0 it is. Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. ~=[,,_,,]:3 -- -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink C

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW 2.0 or 10.0?

2014-01-21 Thread Joel Natividad
+1 for 10. SMW has a long history and the under-the-hood and process improvements that the team has done justifies the large jump IMHO. === Think Different! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_different#Text) Imagine Different! (http://www.yout

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW 2.0 or 10.0?

2014-01-21 Thread planetenxin
+1 for 2.0 for the same reason, Ryan mentioned. Am 20.01.2014 15:45, schrieb Ryan Glasnapp: > The 10.0 versioning makes logical sense, however, 2.0 makes a whole lot more > sense from an end users standpoint. People are going to get confused with the > large jump, and wonder where the other ver

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW no longer works with a manual LinksUpdate call?

2014-01-20 Thread Neill Mitchell
Hi. I can also confirm that Approved Revs no longer works with SMW 1.9. Regards Neill. On 20/01/14 14:21, Yaron Koren wrote: Hi James, On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 11:57 PM, James HK mailto:jamesin.hongkon...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi, > code still responds to the LinksUpdate::doUpdate() c

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW 2.0 or 10.0?

2014-01-20 Thread Ryan Glasnapp
The 10.0 versioning makes logical sense, however, 2.0 makes a whole lot more sense from an end users standpoint. People are going to get confused with the large jump, and wonder where the other versions are (and may also not understand why the jump was made). Also, it maintains some consistenc

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW no longer works with a manual LinksUpdate call?

2014-01-20 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi James, On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 11:57 PM, James HK wrote: > Hi, > > > code still responds to the LinksUpdate::doUpdate() call, but it doesn't > > seem to do the right thing > > If what you are saying is correct (that some information are missing > or not doing the right thing) then no data woul

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW 2.0 or 10.0?

2014-01-20 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Hi, a piece of software that has been around sind 2006 in now the ninth major version, should really not be called "2.0". So my vote goes to 10.0 - this much more indicates the maturity of SMW! Cheers, Bernhard - Ursprüngliche Mail - > Hey, > > It seems there is general agreement on h

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW no longer works with a manual LinksUpdate call?

2014-01-19 Thread James HK
Hi, > code still responds to the LinksUpdate::doUpdate() call, but it doesn't > seem to do the right thing If what you are saying is correct (that some information are missing or not doing the right thing) then no data would be stored in SMW at all ([1] is the main entry point for the Store updat

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW 2.0 or 10.0?

2014-01-19 Thread Yury Katkov
+1 to 10.0 unless any super cool features are coming. 2.0 was good enough for the version where subobjects or Triple store support were introduced - Yury Katkov, WikiVote On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Markus Krötzsch < mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote: > Ok, I give in: +1 to "2.0"

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW 2.0 or 10.0?

2014-01-19 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Ok, I give in: +1 to "2.0" :-) Markus On 18/01/14 19:27, Nischay Nahata wrote: > I didn't follow the full discussion but 2.0 makes more sense to me. > > > On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 11:15 PM, James HK > wrote: > > Hi, > > >From a visibility point of vi

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW 2.0 or 10.0?

2014-01-18 Thread Nischay Nahata
I didn't follow the full discussion but 2.0 makes more sense to me. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 11:15 PM, James HK wrote: > Hi, > > >From a visibility point of view, jumping from 1.9 to 10 seems a bit > gigantic (even though you can argue the rational behind dropping 1 > where 10 follows 9) but I'm

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW 2.0 or 10.0?

2014-01-18 Thread James HK
Hi, >From a visibility point of view, jumping from 1.9 to 10 seems a bit gigantic (even though you can argue the rational behind dropping 1 where 10 follows 9) but I'm more in favour of going with 2 instead. Cheers On 1/19/14, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: > Hey, > > It seems there is general agreement

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW 2.0 or 10.0?

2014-01-18 Thread John McClure
I vote for SMW 2.0, specifically with the idea that SMW 1.x works with MW LTS 1.0 though I totally get that SMW 2.0 might/does/could work with later versions of MW. thanks/jmc On 1/18/2014 9:36 AM, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: Hey, It seems there is general agreement on having the next big SMW relea

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW 1.9 - any blockers left?

2014-01-02 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey Phil, We will as always provide a tarball you can download, extract into your extensions dir, and simply include SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki.php. That being said, it is highly recommended you use the Composer approach when you have CLI access, as it is simply superior in many ways. Ch

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW 1.9 - any blockers left?

2014-01-02 Thread Neill Mitchell
Hi. Happy New Year to all! I would say this one was quite important. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59204 Cheers Neill. On 02/01/14 02:44, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: Hey all, This is the last call for SMW 1.9 blockers. If nothing is brought up, I will tag SMW 1.9 on Friday the 3r

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW 1.9 - any blockers left?

2014-01-02 Thread Legault, Phillip [ITSUS]
I have a question, I have not yet upgraded to 1.9 and I'm currently preparing to. We are not currently using composer. Is Composer necessary moving forward or a nice to have? Phil Legault Lead Analyst, Architecture Johnson & Johnson ITS (908) 655-4307 From: Jeroen De Dauw [mailto:jeroended...@

Re: [SMW-devel] [SMW Composer] Extension configuration

2013-12-17 Thread James HK
Hi, > Some changes in SMW where made recently that limit usage of the namespace > constants in a way that was not present before. This is an exceptional case > and should definitely be documented. It might already be, I'm not sure. Actually, the use of the Composer introduced a necessary adoption

Re: [SMW-devel] [SMW Composer] Extension configuration

2013-12-17 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, > I had assumed that, but I was getting errors with undefined namespaces (SMW_NS constants) that I was referencing after the (removed) require_once statements. Some changes in SMW where made recently that limit usage of the namespace constants in a way that was not present before. This is an

Re: [SMW-devel] [SMW Composer] Extension configuration

2013-12-17 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, Composer is "just" a dependency manager. It has nothing to do with configuration. So how config is done in MediaWiki remains unchanged :) Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. ~=[,,_,,]:3 --

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW, Composer and directories

2013-11-24 Thread Lists
Hi, got my extension placed in the exteions-folder at top-level. But my "autoload.php" is generated in Wikiroot/vendor. Any hint out there for this behavior? Does every extension needs its own autoload.php? It seems SMW requieres it from its own directory. Is it true that only one composer.json

Re: [SMW-devel] [ SMW, Composer and directories

2013-11-24 Thread Lists
Hi, thank you for the clearyfications. They are very useful. Unfortunately what ever I do, I don't end up in directory "extensions/SemanticMediaWiki" or "extensions/myExtension". I have used a modified composer.json from the SMW-package. Does it has to do with the composer mediawiki-installer?

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW meetup group Austria

2013-11-19 Thread Samuel Lampa
Congratulations to the new group! :) Maybe I should make another try to start one in Stockholm, now after there are already two SMW groups that they did not close down ... Cheers // Samuel On 2013-11-18 12:45, Krabina Bernhard wrote: > Dear all, > > I just set up a meetup group for SMW enthusi

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW integration in other tools

2013-11-13 Thread Виталий Филиппов
Hi! Generally you're correct, but why do you say `SMW` instead of just `MW` or `MW+extensions` or even `MW bundle` like our wiki.4intra.net one? I mean MW is a great wiki software even without SMW - the latter only provides you with a small aspect of knowledgebase management.

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW integration in other tools

2013-11-13 Thread planetenxin
Hi Bernhard, we usually use Data Integration Tools to extract, transform, load (ETL) data from and to SMW using the MediaWiki API. This approach is generic and saves us from creating tool specific extensions. This way, one can easily integrate other databases, excel, web services, SAP Solution

Re: [SMW-devel] smw+

2013-11-08 Thread John McClure
I think they are making good-faith efforts in that direction. The test repo's main Halo extension has patches no longer! to core /anything/. Further, a project to eliminate patches to HaloACL has started, so there's much room for optimism, albeit at a pace less than optimal. /jmc On 11/8/2013 1

Re: [SMW-devel] smw+

2013-11-08 Thread trueskew
Yes I know, and WikiEditor is probably a more reasonable first step for getting things running again with later versions of MW than 1.17. But I'm more enthused about the team taking the more useful SMW+ extensions and making them compatible with "normal" MW/SMW. The big problem with SMW+ wa

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW Seattle meetup group formed

2013-11-06 Thread Samuel Lampa
Yeah, hope you don't run into the same trouble! Best // Samuel On 2013-11-06 18:18, John McClure wrote: > > > I've changed the name of the group here as suggested. We have a local > Semantics group I belong to with over 200 people, so maybe that's why > they've not nailed me or something >

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW Seattle meetup group formed

2013-11-06 Thread John McClure
I've changed the name of the group here as suggested. We have a local Semantics group I belong to with over 200 people, so maybe that's why they've not nailed me or something On 11/6/2013 9:15 AM, Samuel Lampa wrote: Yep, have mailed,

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW Seattle meetup group formed

2013-11-06 Thread Samuel Lampa
Yep, have mailed, so will see what they say ... // Samuel On 2013-11-06 18:14, Yaron Koren wrote: > Oh no! You should complain to them, if you haven't already - my guess > is somehow they thought you were selling a product or something. > > -Yaron > > > On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Samuel La

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW Seattle meetup group formed

2013-11-06 Thread Yaron Koren
Oh no! You should complain to them, if you haven't already - my guess is somehow they thought you were selling a product or something. -Yaron On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Samuel Lampa wrote: > Yeah, it might be that the strong focus on local rooting, may make it less > suitable for this. >

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW Seattle meetup group formed

2013-11-06 Thread Samuel Lampa
Yeah, it might be that the strong focus on local rooting, may make it less suitable for this. What's more, they just closed the SMW Stockholm group, by unspecifically referring to http://help.meetup.com/customer/portal/articles/865536 :( // Samuel On 2013-11-06 17:03, Yaron Koren wrote: > Hi,

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW Seattle meetup group formed

2013-11-06 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, I'm not aware of meetup.com being used for conferences and the like. On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Yury Katkov wrote: > And the other question: we've thought to use Meetup.com for getting > more people for the conference. Is the tool good for this, can guys > from SMWCon Spring 2014 use

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW Seattle meetup group formed

2013-11-06 Thread Samuel Lampa
For the local people, I think meetup.com works really well. Since it needs payment, that tends to filter out a lot of spam, which makes the e-mails and announcements much more worthwhile to check (which seems to be what people do). I even started a group for the D programming language last year

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW Seattle meetup group formed

2013-11-06 Thread Samuel Lampa
Cool! :) Just a thought though, that it might be good to have the location (e.g. "Seattle" in the title, as to avoid confusion, since there are tons of groups on meetup.com, and they all make sense foremost for the location at hand. Good luck! Cheers // Samuel On 2013-11-06 00:44, John McClu

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW Seattle meetup group formed

2013-11-06 Thread John McClure
meetup sends its announcements to topical birds of feather i look for new users first! and i called it Semantic/MediaWiki to get non-semantic users too On 11/6/2013 6:45 AM, Yury Katkov wrote: > Good one! > > John are you aware of SMW users in Seattle? I'm thinking of creating > the group in Mosc

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW Seattle meetup group formed

2013-11-06 Thread Yury Katkov
And the other question: we've thought to use Meetup.com for getting more people for the conference. Is the tool good for this, can guys from SMWCon Spring 2014 use it for outreach? - Yury Katkov, WikiVote On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Yury Katkov wrote: > Good one! > > John are you aware

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW Seattle meetup group formed

2013-11-06 Thread Yury Katkov
Good one! John are you aware of SMW users in Seattle? I'm thinking of creating the group in Moscow but I know personally only 3-4 people who use it. - Yury Katkov, WikiVote On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 3:44 AM, John McClure wrote: > Hello, > here in Seattle USA > I have started http://www.meetup

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW 1.9 entering beta stage - error

2013-11-06 Thread Neill Mitchell
Hi Jeroen. I got it out of the git head this morning! I guess DataValues needs to be added to the dependencies list in the doc as well. Cheers Neill. On 06/11/13 12:09, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: > Hey Neill, > > You probably have a to old version of DataValues. > > Cheers > > -- > Jeroen De Dauw > h

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW 1.9 entering beta stage - error

2013-11-06 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey Neill, You probably have a to old version of DataValues. Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. ~=[,,_,,]:3 -- -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate applica

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW 1.9 entering beta stage - error

2013-11-06 Thread Neill Mitchell
Hi. I've hit a problem during upgrade. I downloaded SMW 1.9 beta1, Validator 1.0 beta and Data Values 0.1 alpha. SMW_setup.php runs fine. SMW_refreshData.php -v throws the following error: PHP Fatal error: Class '\ValueValidators\RangeValidator' not found in /var/www/webapps/localoffer_dev/e

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW + Selenium

2013-09-21 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 21/09/13 00:06, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: > Hey, > > If these tests are broken and no one is maintaining them, I suggest we > remove them from master. They can be resurrected from version history if > anyone cares to fix them. > +1 if nobody uses them right now (I don't) Markus -

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW + Selenium

2013-09-20 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, If these tests are broken and no one is maintaining them, I suggest we remove them from master. They can be resurrected from version history if anyone cares to fix them. Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. ~=[,,_,,]:3 --

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW and the HotCat gadget

2013-06-28 Thread Ryan Glasnapp
Well, currently the HotCat gadget modifies categories, even if they're inside a query. Which is rather obnoxious. I'm mostly looking for something that makes category modification simpler for less experienced users. --Ryan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 28, 2013, at 4:22 PM, Yaron Koren wrote:

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW and the HotCat gadget

2013-06-28 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Ryan, What do you mean by "SMW friendly"? -Yaron On Jun 28, 2013 1:07 PM, "Ryan Glasnapp" wrote: > Is anyone aware of a SMW friendly version of the HotCat gadget? > > Thanks! > --Ryan > > > -- > This SF.net email is

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW 1.9, Subobject - get properties

2013-06-03 Thread Alexey Klimovich
Thanks, James! I have successfully fetched sub-objects properties thanks to your advice! 03.06.2013 19:58, James HK пишет: > Hi, > >>> new Subobject( $title ) > > This won't work because you a just created a new instance which at > this point has nothing to to with the store. > >>> $subObject->ge

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW 1.9, Subobject - get properties

2013-06-03 Thread James HK
Hi, >> new Subobject( $title ) This won't work because you a just created a new instance which at this point has nothing to to with the store. >> $subObject->getSemanticData()->getProperties(); This won't work because the instance you just created as now properties added therefore it won't retu

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW and PostgreSQL

2013-05-07 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, I would not run with PostgreSQL until there is decent support for this on smw master AND there are tests on our CI system to ensure things don't break. Right now support for this is very flaky and fixing some random errors is not going to fix that. If you really want to run on PostgreSQL, the

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW to LaTeX, MSWord, PDF?

2013-04-23 Thread Yury Katkov
Hi-hi! It's good enough if you don't have strict requirements to your documents. Unfortunately I do have them: all the margins, paddings, indents, fonts, styles, thicknesses of the borders, references etc. have to be exactly as written in the standards. Because of that I'm thinking about converti

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW to LaTeX, MSWord, PDF?

2013-04-23 Thread Argbert
Hey Yury, maybe not exactly what you wanted, but at least a dirty workaround: If you copy and paste page content of SMW (out of the browser, e.g. Firefox) into word, it adapts the format (without images) quite well - headlines, bullet points etc. Using a Word template can finally enable you

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW to LaTeX, MSWord, PDF?

2013-04-22 Thread Joshua TAYLOR
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Yury Katkov wrote: > We're making a collective document with MediaWiki and want to allow the user > to export the whole document in MsWord and PDF formats. The idea is to > create XML-representation of the result and then turn it to doc and pdf. > > 1) I have no i

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW-Properties, PHP and developments

2013-03-11 Thread Lists
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Jeroen De Dauw [mailto:jeroended...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Montag, 11. März 2013 16:21 An: Lists Cc: semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: Re: [SMW-devel] SMW-Properties, PHP and developments Hey, 1. Unfortunately we did not succeed in using

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW-Properties, PHP and developments

2013-03-11 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, 1. Unfortunately we did not succeed in using the SMWWriter extension. Is > this project still maintained. Did someone used it with MW 1.20.x and SMW > 1.8.x? > I suspect this extension does not work with SMW 1.6 and later. Looks like no one is maintaining it. It is not even in Git as far as

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW and LTS

2013-02-26 Thread Neill Mitchell
Hi. I agree that loads of if's in code is not desirable. However, is there a build time way of doing this? At my time at Nokia, we had an absolute nightmare time with phone variants. There are dozens for each carrier and country. Same problem. You don't want your runtime cluttered up with "If

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW and LTS

2013-02-25 Thread James HK
Hi, >> Just to clarify: are you saying that the need to support older versions of >> MediaWiki, and specifically 1.19, makes certain features in SMW impossible? I'm not saying it is impossible but as soon as you start using "if" statements to accommodate releases you introduce dependencies which

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW and LTS

2013-02-25 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi James, Just to clarify: are you saying that the need to support older versions of MediaWiki, and specifically 1.19, makes certain features in SMW impossible? Or are you saying that it just makes adding them more difficult, because of the need to add in a bunch of "if" statements and the like? T

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW and LTS

2013-02-25 Thread James HK
Hi, > SMW 1.9 (15/03/2013) -> MW 1.19 (09/02/2012): 1.1 years On a site note, in two or three occasions when I was adding something to SMW 1.9 I had to back down because suddenly the approach preferred didn't work in MW 1.19 (I think it is one hook, two methods when testing against MW 1.19) whi

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW and LTS

2013-02-25 Thread Stephan Gambke
On 02/25/2013 10:27 PM, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: >> (because they had an extension accessing the DB directly). > > Ignoring abstractions like this and making oneself dependent on private > internals of a system leads to fragility and rigidity. This is not good. > I strongly oppose doing effort to not

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW and LTS

2013-02-25 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, > (because they had an extension accessing the DB directly). Ignoring abstractions like this and making oneself dependent on private internals of a system leads to fragility and rigidity. This is not good. I strongly oppose doing effort to not break compatibility with such code as a general

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW and LTS

2013-02-25 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Stephan, Yes, I know that the the transfer to Git threw off a lot in terms of consistent tagging - that's the main part of the reason why there have been only two Semantic Bundle releases since the changeover happened a year ago. In any case, anything you can do to improve the state of tagging

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW and LTS

2013-02-25 Thread Stephan Gambke
Hi Yaron, On 02/25/2013 07:24 PM, Yaron Koren wrote: > As to creating new Semantic Bundles on the fly that match some criteria > - i.e., using some set of Git tags - that gets complicated by the fact > that not all of the extensions have consistent tagging. Some (like, I'm Yeah, that was one of t

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW and LTS

2013-02-25 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, Stephan - you make a good point about being able to get a working SB for a specific MediaWiki version. If you, or someone else, actually wanted an SB version that worked with MediaWiki 1.16, I could probably get that by going through all the tarballs for SB (they're all still available on the

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW and LTS

2013-02-25 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
On 02/25/2013 10:23 AM, Yaron Koren wrote: > I don't know if everyone's aware of it, but the WMF people have > actually declared MediaWiki 1.19 to be the official LTS version for > the next two years - so people are supposed to be able to use 1.19 for > the next two years without any worries. Actu

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW and LTS

2013-02-25 Thread Stephan Gambke
Hi Yaron, as I see it LTS for MW is mainly about applying bug fixes. The main purpose of LTS for SMW would be to provide a working set of extensions for a given configuration of MW and SMW. So LTS for SMW would indeed mainly be about support for a given MW version. But it would also apply to SMW,

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW and LTS

2013-02-25 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Stephan, There are a number of points to discuss here. In our case, I think long-term support really refers to two things: support for older versions of MediaWiki, and support for older versions of SMW. I don't know if everyone's aware of it, but the WMF people have actually declared MediaWiki

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW and LTS

2013-02-25 Thread Neill Mitchell
This all sounds very sensible Stephan. Gives stability to those who need it and flexibility to those who want to run more bleeding edge versions. Cheers Neill Stephan Gambke wrote: >Ok, digging this out again. > >On 5 December 2012 22:39, James HK >wrote: >> # What would LTS mean in connecti

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW and LTS

2013-02-25 Thread Stephan Gambke
Ok, digging this out again. On 5 December 2012 22:39, James HK wrote: > # What would LTS mean in connection with SMW ? Provide LTS versions of the Semantic Bundle. This would mean: * to branch off versions* of SMW * to include updated versions of extensions in the Semantic Bundle as long as the

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW bugs: The property id to add must be a positive integer

2013-01-15 Thread Stephan Gambke
Ok, I think there is something seriously wrong with SMWSQLStore3Writers. getCurrentPropertyTableContents only fetches one row and returns it as an array. It should probably return several rows as an array of arrays. Something like this: $result = array(); $resultWrapper = $dbr->s

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW bugs: The property id to add must be a positive integer

2013-01-14 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey Stephan, As Nischay pointed out, that's not an issue with your setup. Reverting the mentioned change will not get rid of the bug (in fact you'll have a few more then), though it will make them all fail more silently. The issue here is that an empty string is passed as property id toaddToUsageC

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW bugs: The property id to add must be a positive integer

2013-01-14 Thread Nischay Nahata
Hi, You seem to be using the master version of the code; the issue you ran into is caused by a recent change. Please report a bug at bugzilla.wikimedia.org Workaround would be to locally revert change https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/37656/ or use a release version. On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:

Re: [SMW-devel] [SMW/SRF 1.9] Upcoming SRF\EventCalendar changes and some comments on behalf of future result printers

2013-01-14 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey James, First of all: bravo, this is outstanding work :) (The rest of the mail is technical, so if you're not into that, you might want to drop out here :) > + JS implemented condition string (query string) parser Before we create such a parser, we need to be able to represent queries in som

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW 1.18 and Maps update errors

2012-12-11 Thread Leonard Wallentin
Do you also get UNIQ-QINU messages printed out in the article text of affected pages? /Leo 2012/12/10 Alexey Klimovich > Hi, everyone! > I am suffering from such problem: when i am run update to SMW 1.8 Store3 > with Maps and SMaps 2.0 extensions enabled: > > php SMW_refreshData.php -v -b SMW

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW and LTS

2012-12-06 Thread Neill Mitchell
Hi Guys. This all sounds very sensible :) Gives good stability to those who are on longer release cycles and plenty of time to plan major upgrades. Best regards Neill. On 05/12/12 21:56, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: Hey, You raise some good questions. I'm just going to stick with some comments on

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW and LTS

2012-12-05 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, You raise some good questions. I'm just going to stick with some comments on the mentioned MediaWiki compatibility. > # SMW 1.8 supports MW 1.17/1.18+ It supports 1.17 up to 1.20, and probably 1.21 as well. > # SMW 1.9 is planned to support MW 1.19/1.20/1.21 / PHP 5.3 or greater Indeed,

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW 1.9 Namespace

2012-12-02 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, I have also seen that currently SMW\Test and SMW\Tests (or was it > SRF\Test, SRF\Tests) are used, which should it be? > "Test", not "Tests". At least that's the rule I've been following over the past few months. can we use SMW\Store > instead of SMW\SQLStore > Why not both? The store stuf

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW 1.9 Unit tests

2012-12-02 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, I would like to add and encourage that all new developments that come > with the SMW 1.9 branch ought to come with its own test > +1. Tests make life easier for developers and increase quality of the software. [2] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/32836/ > These are some notes on existing

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW 1.8 and SMW core extension compatibility

2012-10-28 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 27/10/12 08:35, Nischay Nahata wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Yaron Koren > wrote: > > Hi Markus, > > I'm curious about what you wrote about adding custom tables for > different properties - is there any documentation about it? > > Hi, > >

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