Re: Geronimo-JAMES integration

2008-07-08 Thread Stefano Bagnara
David Jencks ha scritto: On Jun 29, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Stefano Bagnara wrote: David Jencks ha scritto: I've been hoping for a Geronimo-JAMES integration since the start of the Geronimo project. Two fairly recent developments in JAMES have now made this a relatively simple task: the

Re: Geronimo-JAMES integration

2008-07-07 Thread David Jencks
On Jun 29, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Stefano Bagnara wrote: David Jencks ha scritto: I've been hoping for a Geronimo-JAMES integration since the start of the Geronimo project. Two fairly recent developments in JAMES have now made this a relatively simple task: the maven build and the s

Re: Geronimo-JAMES integration

2008-06-29 Thread Stefano Bagnara
David Jencks ha scritto: I've been hoping for a Geronimo-JAMES integration since the start of the Geronimo project. Two fairly recent developments in JAMES have now made this a relatively simple task: the maven build and the spring integration code. - the maven build enables pai

Re: MOM and spooling (Was: Geronimo-JAMES integration)

2008-06-27 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto: On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto: On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sometimes my JAMES deal with around a million email in a day and I had

Re: MOM and spooling (Was: Geronimo-JAMES integration)

2008-06-27 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto: >> >> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Sometimes my JAMES deal with around a million email in a day and I had to >>> "hack" some JAMES co

Re: MOM and spooling (Was: Geronimo-JAMES integration)

2008-06-27 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto: On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: About my concern it still applies also to the scenario where only the "Envelope" (to be defined) is written on every queue change, but this cannot be avoided with the suggested approach

Re: MOM and spooling (Was: Geronimo-JAMES integration)

2008-06-24 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto: >> >> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 8:37 PM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto: On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Stefano Bagnara <[EM

MOM and spooling (Was: Geronimo-JAMES integration)

2008-06-24 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto: On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 8:37 PM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto: On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto: generally: we've talked before and the

Re: Geronimo-JAMES integration

2008-06-22 Thread Norman Maurer
>>> David Jencks ha scritto: > >>> At the moment the geronimo-james integration is simply a single gbean for > >>> the whole james application: do you think it would be hard to support 1 > >>> gbean per function? JAMES is composed by api modules, libra

Re: Geronimo-JAMES integration

2008-06-22 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > JAMES is too hard to understand and that's why i think we need to pull > out the protocols (smtp, nntp, pop3, imap) into independent, > embeddable libraries with no coupling to avalon (or to the JAMES > socket han

Re: Geronimo-JAMES integration

2008-06-22 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Jencks ha scritto: >> >> On Jun 16, 2008, at 3:45 AM, Stefano Bagnara wrote: >>> >>> David Jencks ha scritto: >>> At the moment the geronimo-james integration

Re: Geronimo-JAMES integration

2008-06-21 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 1:10 AM, David Jencks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jun 16, 2008, at 12:24 PM, Stefano Bagnara wrote: > >> David Jencks ha scritto: >>> >>> On Jun 16, 2008, at 3:45 AM, Stefano Bagnara wrote: >>>> >>>>

Re: com.sun.mail.util.CRLFOutputStream alternatives (was: Geronimo-JAMES integration)

2008-06-19 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 7:20 AM, Bernd Fondermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto: >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Rick McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Stefano Bagnara

Re: com.sun.mail.util.CRLFOutputStream alternatives (was: Geronimo-JAMES integration)

2008-06-18 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto: >> >> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Rick McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Stefano Bagnara wrote: We also depend on com.sun.mail.util.CRLFOutputStream but we should

Re: Geronimo Javamail (Was: Geronimo-JAMES integration)

2008-06-18 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Trying again to pass the antispam filter. I and Rick had some off-list conversation about failures in our testsuite when using geronimo javamail. He already fixed the first NPEs I found, now I opened a few more issue on the basic use of MimeMessage and our MimeMessageWrapper object: GERONIM

com.sun.mail.util.CRLFOutputStream alternatives (was: Geronimo-JAMES integration)

2008-06-18 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto: On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Rick McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Stefano Bagnara wrote: We also depend on com.sun.mail.util.CRLFOutputStream but we should definitely replace this with some james class (maybe copied from geronimo?) Not sure what this cl

Re: Geronimo Javamail (Was: Geronimo-JAMES integration)

2008-06-17 Thread Rick McGuire
Stefano Bagnara wrote: Rick McGuire ha scritto: Stefano Bagnara wrote: Rick McGuire ha scritto: The binary can be found here: http://people.apache.org/~rickmcguire/javamail/ --- You don't have permission to access /~rickmcguire/javamail/geronimo-javamail_1.4_mail-1.5-SNAPSHOT.jar on this

Re: Geronimo Javamail (Was: Geronimo-JAMES integration)

2008-06-17 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Rick McGuire ha scritto: Stefano Bagnara wrote: Rick McGuire ha scritto: The binary can be found here: http://people.apache.org/~rickmcguire/javamail/ --- You don't have permission to access /~rickmcguire/javamail/geronimo-javamail_1.4_mail-1.5-SNAPSHOT.jar on this server. --- Ok, the per

Re: Geronimo Javamail (Was: Geronimo-JAMES integration)

2008-06-17 Thread Rick McGuire
Stefano Bagnara wrote: Rick McGuire ha scritto: The binary can be found here: http://people.apache.org/~rickmcguire/javamail/ --- You don't have permission to access /~rickmcguire/javamail/geronimo-javamail_1.4_mail-1.5-SNAPSHOT.jar on this server. --- Ok, the permission problem should be

Re: Geronimo Javamail (Was: Geronimo-JAMES integration)

2008-06-17 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Rick McGuire ha scritto: The binary can be found here: http://people.apache.org/~rickmcguire/javamail/ --- You don't have permission to access /~rickmcguire/javamail/geronimo-javamail_1.4_mail-1.5-SNAPSHOT.jar on this server. --- The source is split into two pieces, a spec component (essen

Re: Geronimo Javamail (Was: Geronimo-JAMES integration)

2008-06-17 Thread Rick McGuire
Stefano Bagnara wrote: Rick McGuire ha scritto: Stefano Bagnara wrote: IIRC few months ago: the issue was with the smtpclient (to deliver mail) and the "hidden" features (e.g: 8BITMIME) and specific exceptions (on delivery failure for partial deliveries). We make use of many internal things a

Geronimo Javamail (Was: Geronimo-JAMES integration)

2008-06-17 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Rick McGuire ha scritto: Stefano Bagnara wrote: IIRC few months ago: the issue was with the smtpclient (to deliver mail) and the "hidden" features (e.g: 8BITMIME) and specific exceptions (on delivery failure for partial deliveries). We make use of many internal things and we check for sun spec

Re: Geronimo-JAMES integration

2008-06-17 Thread Rick McGuire
Stefano Bagnara wrote: David Jencks ha scritto: On Jun 16, 2008, at 3:45 AM, Stefano Bagnara wrote: David Jencks ha scritto: Another issue I came across is use of com.sun mail classes (I started by trying to use the geronimo mail provider before I understood why the stage repo wasn't working

Re: Geronimo-JAMES integration

2008-06-16 Thread Bernd Fondermann
Stefano Bagnara wrote: Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto: On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 1:22 AM, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: rewriting the JAMES spool using JMS would be good Why? specifically: restarting my JAMES instance every couple of days has started to irritate Do you think t

Re: Geronimo-JAMES integration

2008-06-16 Thread David Jencks
On Jun 16, 2008, at 12:24 PM, Stefano Bagnara wrote: David Jencks ha scritto: On Jun 16, 2008, at 3:45 AM, Stefano Bagnara wrote: David Jencks ha scritto: At the moment the geronimo-james integration is simply a single gbean for the whole james application: do you think it would be hard

Re: Geronimo-JAMES integration

2008-06-16 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Rick McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Stefano Bagnara wrote: >> >> David Jencks ha scritto: >>> >>> On Jun 16, 2008, at 3:45 AM, Stefano Bagnara wrote: David Jencks ha scritto: > > Another issue I came across is use of com.sun mail classes (I s

Re: Geronimo-JAMES integration

2008-06-16 Thread Rick McGuire
Stefano Bagnara wrote: David Jencks ha scritto: On Jun 16, 2008, at 3:45 AM, Stefano Bagnara wrote: David Jencks ha scritto: Another issue I came across is use of com.sun mail classes (I started by trying to use the geronimo mail provider before I understood why the stage repo wasn't working

Re: Fetchmail issues? (Was: Geronimo-JAMES integration)

2008-06-16 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:19 PM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto: >> >> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto: i'm pretty sure that it fetchmail is the direct cause

Re: Fetchmail issues? (Was: Geronimo-JAMES integration)

2008-06-16 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto: On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto: i'm pretty sure that it fetchmail is the direct cause but i believe that it's indirectly related to the spool design. do you run fetchmail? I run fetc

Re: Geronimo-JAMES integration

2008-06-16 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 8:37 PM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto: >> >> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto: generally: we've talked before and the whole design a

Re: Geronimo-JAMES integration

2008-06-16 Thread Stefano Bagnara
David Jencks ha scritto: On Jun 16, 2008, at 3:45 AM, Stefano Bagnara wrote: David Jencks ha scritto: Another issue I came across is use of com.sun mail classes (I started by trying to use the geronimo mail provider before I understood why the stage repo wasn't working for me). Is this intent

Re: Fetchmail issues? (Was: Geronimo-JAMES integration)

2008-06-16 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto: >> >> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto: On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 1:22 AM, Noel J. Bergman <[EM

Fetchmail issues? (Was: Geronimo-JAMES integration)

2008-06-16 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto: On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto: On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 1:22 AM, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: rewriting the JAMES spool using JMS would be good Why? specifically: res

Re: Geronimo-JAMES integration

2008-06-16 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto: On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto: generally: we've talked before and the whole design around that area of the system could be so much better technology: actually support for any distri

Re: Geronimo-JAMES integration

2008-06-16 Thread Stefano Bagnara
David Jencks ha scritto: On Jun 16, 2008, at 3:45 AM, Stefano Bagnara wrote: David Jencks ha scritto: At the moment the geronimo-james integration is simply a single gbean for the whole james application: do you think it would be hard to support 1 gbean per function? JAMES is composed by api

Re: Geronimo-JAMES integration

2008-06-16 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto: >> >> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 1:22 AM, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: rewriting the JAMES spool using JMS would be good >>> >>> Why? >> >> specifically: restarting m

Re: Geronimo-JAMES integration

2008-06-16 Thread David Jencks
On Jun 16, 2008, at 3:45 AM, Stefano Bagnara wrote: David Jencks ha scritto: I've been hoping for a Geronimo-JAMES integration since the start of the Geronimo project. Two fairly recent developments in JAMES have now made this a relatively simple task: the maven build and the s

Re: Geronimo-JAMES integration

2008-06-16 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto: On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 1:22 AM, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: rewriting the JAMES spool using JMS would be good Why? specifically: restarting my JAMES instance every couple of days has started to irritate Do you think that the current spoolrep

Re: Geronimo-JAMES integration

2008-06-16 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 1:22 AM, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> rewriting the JAMES spool using JMS would be good > > Why? specifically: restarting my JAMES instance every couple of days has started to irritate generally: we've talked before and the whole design around that area of

Re: Geronimo-JAMES integration

2008-06-16 Thread Stefano Bagnara
David Jencks ha scritto: I've been hoping for a Geronimo-JAMES integration since the start of the Geronimo project. Two fairly recent developments in JAMES have now made this a relatively simple task: the maven build and the spring integration code. [...] Instructions: 1. Apply patche

RE: Geronimo-JAMES integration

2008-06-15 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> rewriting the JAMES spool using JMS would be good Why? You do realize that rewriting the spool for JMS actually means introducing a spool broker service, right? --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] F

Re: Geronimo-JAMES integration

2008-06-15 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 9:37 PM, Bernd Fondermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Jencks wrote: >> --- >> >> Future directions >> >> Currently there is minimal integration between geronimo and JAMES. One >> really obvious integration point would be to use ger

Re: Geronimo-JAMES integration

2008-06-15 Thread Bernd Fondermann
David Jencks wrote: I've put the james config files in a geronimo-standard location of var/james/config. I changed the ports so the server would start without superuser permissions. So far I just know the server starts without errors: I haven't figure out how to test if it can actually do any

Re: Geronimo-JAMES integration

2008-06-15 Thread Bernd Fondermann
David Jencks wrote: I've been hoping for a Geronimo-JAMES integration since the start of the Geronimo project. Two fairly recent developments in JAMES have now made this a relatively simple task: the maven build and the spring integration code. Me too. :-) It was one of the

Re: Geronimo-JAMES integration

2008-06-15 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 7:31 PM, David Jencks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been hoping for a Geronimo-JAMES integration since the start of the > Geronimo project. cool i have as well but not quite that long ;-) > Two fairly recent developments in JAMES have now made

Geronimo-JAMES integration

2008-06-15 Thread David Jencks
I've been hoping for a Geronimo-JAMES integration since the start of the Geronimo project. Two fairly recent developments in JAMES have now made this a relatively simple task: the maven build and the spring integration code. - the maven build enables painless connection between the