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> I'm still not sure which IMAP implementation to use
IMAP2. The best way to proceed may be to run the excellent number of tests that Darrel
has in cvs and then replace repository and run again.
Harmeet
You might ask Darrell. I haven't spent much time looking at either
proposal.
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> From: Jason Webb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 09 September 2003 10:50
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I hate to use discussion forum techniques on a mail list...
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I'm still not sure which IMAP implementation to use
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> From: Jason Webb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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tember 2003 21:18
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> I've now had a look and the IMAP code written by Darrell
> (IMAP2 proposal) and I think I can write a bridging class
> between ImapMailBox , ImapStore and the c
I've now had a look and the IMAP code written by Darrell (IMAP2 proposal)
and I think I can write a bridging class between ImapMailBox , ImapStore and
the current db: and file: repositories. It'll be fun (cough) but it should
allow the IMAP team to get started.
-- Jason
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> From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 05 September 2003 19:34
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> Subject: RE: IMAP Development Pointers
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> > In fact I was under the impression that INBOX is a reserved folder
> &g
Just out of curiosity, is there anything wrong with just using the
Take a look at dbmail (http://www.dbmail.org/) They have an imap
implementation on top of a database.
Is there IMAP code in the CVS? I didn't see it last time I looked.
PS.
If I was to take some GPLed C code (from dbmail) and
Ed and Noel,
You can still consider me in for working on parts of the IMAP
implementation. I've been buried on a political tracking tool since last
poking around in the existing experimental code. The only other
experience I have with James beyond just using the server was to have
wrote my own
> In fact I was under the impression that INBOX is a reserved folder name,
> that it should always be there, and you are not allowed to create
> subfolders of it. I don't think many enforce the no-subfolder of INBOX
> rule, and I may just be remembering wrong.
I haven't read the IMAP RFCs. I do
Kervin L. Pierre wrote:
I believe that it is up to the client that is making those mailboxes. I
use mozilla, and it creates those mailboxes under the INBOX mailbox.
Here is some hierarchy of multiple mailboxes on my cyrus imap server
...
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From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 2:57 PM
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Subject: RE: IMAP Development Pointers
> in the IMAP4rev1 RFC, it shows instances of there being subfolders of
> INBOX, but
> in the IMAP4rev1 RFC, it shows instances of there being subfolders of
> INBOX, but INBOX is special in that it always exists, and when you do
> a rename of INBOX it just create a new folder and moves the contents
> of INBOX into it.
And re-recreates a new INBOX?
So if I have INBOX and rename it
Kervin, just so you know that was Surge that wrote that. I wrote a response
which your post gives a perfect example to.
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From: Kervin L. Pierre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 4:03 PM
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Edward Flick wrote:
In fact I was under the impression that INBOX is a reserved folder name,
True
that it should always be there, and you are not allowed to create
subfolders of it.
You are allowed.
Anyway, the mail servers I am familiar with do place INBOX at the same
left as Sent, Draft, an
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Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> There is no hierarchy. They are just names. The hierarchy is a fiction.
> Just adopt a convention for how IMAP wants to map the names into a
>
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
There is no hierarchy. They are just names. The hierarchy is a fiction.
Just adopt a convention for how IMAP wants to map the names into a
hierarchy.
No one said that user.folder should be interpreted as a child of the inbox.
It could be a peer. In terms of the actual stor
> I just thought about this under the format where you say
> .select("user.folder") does that automatically assume a
> folder under the INBOX? If so how do you select a folder
> that isn't under the inbox?
There is no hierarchy. They are just names. The hierarchy is a fiction.
Just adopt a conv
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Is it not possible to keep a copy of the message on the server, or am I
misunderstanding what you mean by that.
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> That sounds fine to me. I mainly just want something
> working. What locking m
05, 2003 3:23 AM
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> From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 04 September 2003 23:54
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> Cc: Darrell DeBoer; Kris Bravo; Joe Cheng
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> Ed,
>
> Other people who have expressed interest in contributing to IMAP are
> (alphabetically):
>
>Kris Bravo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Joe Cheng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Max
Are you sure about that? Perhaps I am mistaken but I remember Outlook
Express in particular performing its searches locally only--I sniffed
the packets and no SEARCH commands ever went through. Same with
Outlook.
Never tested Netscape/Mozilla myself but I thought I remembered people
saying that
Ed,
Other people who have expressed interest in contributing to IMAP are
(alphabetically):
Kris Bravo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Joe Cheng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Maxwell Grender-Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Nawwar Kasrawi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Christian Myrvold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sascha Kulaw
Joe Cheng wrote:
...I
was surprised to discover that none of the "mainstream" Windows e-mail
clients out there even use server-side searching (I believe I tested
Outlook Express, Outlook, Mozilla... it was a while ago though). I
think the most common client that does is Mutt (or Pine? I forget).
For what it's worth, I had more or less completed a mailstore for my own
IMAP server after I decided not to work directly on James.
Here are some performance stats:
http://www.joecheng.com/blog/entries/Mailstoreperformancetests.html
In my mailstore implementation, each folder is a directory and t
Jason,
Support for maildir would be helpful, but one issue is how to express the
hierarchy. I think that is really a key issue. For example, is there one
repository, or does each folder look like a repository? This is really an
important consideration, both in terms of abstraction and implement
ll, when mapping from the IMAP SELECT
command. Although, I haven't looked through the james source much, what do
you think?
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Bummer! Good catch Serge.
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> Except that you can't use any of t
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I shall have a think then (and set about doing it)
DJB's site has a good explanation on how maildir works
http://qmail.plig.org/man/man5/maildir.html
-- Jason
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> Jeez, I guess searching for a maildir impl would be a lot
> easier than coding your own :-P. Hehe.
>
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> From: Steve Short [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 0
mments on this?
-- Jason
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> From: Edward Flick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 04 September 2003 17:43
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> Subject: RE: IMAP Development Pointers
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> Hi Jason,
> Boy and I was thinking about doing it myself, bu
Jeez, I guess searching for a maildir impl would be a lot easier than coding
your own :-P. Hehe.
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From: Steve Short [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:20 AM
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Jason,
Some
ssing out
ideas, and am open to others.
Ed
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I shall have a think then (and set about doing it)
DJB&#x
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> I shall have a think then (and set about doing it)
> DJB's site has a good explanation on how maildir works
> http://qmail.plig.org/man/man5/maildir.html
>
> -- Jason
>
>
>
Jason,
Some links you might find useful:
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> From: Jason Webb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 9:07 AM
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> I shall have a
Edward Flick wrote:
Yeah, maildirs seem pretty effective as a store. Thats actually what I was
hinting at (with a link file instead of real links as this is a java program
and will be running on platforms which don't support real links). I don't
buy into the idea that creating multiple files will
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> Yeah, maildirs seem pretty effective as a store. Thats
> actually what I was hinting at (with a link file instead of
> real links as this is a java program and will be running on
> platforms which don&#x
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From: Jason Webb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:02 AM
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If there is enough interest or need I will write a maildir-style
repository. This is used by qmail and Courier-IMAP to great
orage ,particularly the mbox one ;)
-- Jason
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> From: Edward Flick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 03 September 2003 21:56
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> Subject: RE: IMAP Development Pointers
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> Just out of curiosity, is there anything wrong with
Hi Edward,
Edward Flick wrote:
Just out of curiosity, is there anything wrong with just using the
filesystem? Folders work wonders :-P. And sets of enumerated files for
messages would be nice, easy, and quick to implement, and I guess some quick
and easy link file for common boxes between accou
Edward Flick wrote:
Just out of curiosity, is there anything wrong with just using the
filesystem? Folders work wonders :-P. And sets of enumerated files for
messages would be nice, easy, and quick to implement, and I guess some quick
and easy link file for common boxes between accounts. What do
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Edward,
That would be great. We've had a number of developers "threaten" ;-) to
work on IMAP, but no one has really stepped up to it other than DdB.
AFAIK, th
Edward,
That would be great. We've had a number of developers "threaten" ;-) to
work on IMAP, but no one has really stepped up to it other than DdB.
AFAIK, the big problem is the lack of an adequate message store for the
hierarchy. I am starting to work on JNDI/LDAP stuff. I will bring it
on-l
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