Re: [Server-devel] Server-devel Digest, Vol 18, Issue 6

2008-10-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Bryan Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > DG may not be a good long term solution, but the pilots need it asap and > it still isn't part of the default install. Greg is right that the XS is > already a production project but it lacks one of the key features that > all

[Server-devel] Using Moodle: Pseudolocales trick for i18n/l10n testing

2008-10-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
We care about l18n to non-latin languages more than most so I "cross-pollinated" this idea to moodle.org -- and *already* hit a bug :-) http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=107555#p472760 -- Forwarded message -- From: Martín Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, Oct 6, 2008

Re: [Server-devel] Server-devel Digest, Vol 18, Issue 6

2008-10-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:52 PM, Bryan Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I completely realize that and I hope you and Greg use my e-mails as > ammunition to get more resources :) thanks! :-) > I am also trying to communicate that for us and probably many other > pilots DG is a higher priority tha

Re: [Server-devel] DanGuardian and XS Plans

2008-10-07 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 4:17 AM, John Watlington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >In existing deployments (not trials) content filtering > is being done upstream in the internet connection. Interesting! I didn't know that - > Content filtering is a very sensitive subject, and any > offering made by

Re: [Server-devel] XS testing

2008-10-07 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 7:04 AM, Tony Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What I think we need urgently is a simple procedure someone in the field can > use to verify an XS installation. It has to be simple and effective, because > this person is also bringing up a school-set of XOs. This is grea

Re: [Server-devel] testing XS-RSYNC

2008-10-08 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Reuben K. Caron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Great, thanks. I was steered to the correct files and got it to work from > both the USB and command line. The files I used can be found at: Cool. Are you doing this on xs-0.5? If you update to the newest rpms from the

Re: [Server-devel] XS testing

2008-10-09 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 5:29 AM, Tony Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At the moment, I am enabling password authentication for SSH. However, > root login via SSH will not be possible. So this test would require the > installer to log in as admin, for example. He would then su to root with > t

Re: [Server-devel] XS testing

2008-10-09 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Tim Moody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How does the user get the SOTP pw list? OTP blueprint docs here http://wiki.laptop.org/go/School_server m -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distr

Re: [Server-devel] deployment

2008-10-09 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:33 AM, Tim Moody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not sure what the plans are for XS deployment, whether large or small > scale. I've been working (often struggling) with refreshing images in our > classrooms using Symantec Ghost, which is now working fairly well. This i

Re: [Server-devel] XS testing (Tony Anderson)

2008-10-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 6:17 AM, Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't fully understand all the vagaries of access to root, but I do > want to warn you about having any open ports or users with password > authentication only. > > Be really careful about dictionary style attacks. Agreed -

Re: [Server-devel] physical security of the XS and XO-as-XS

2008-10-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 3:43 AM, Bryan Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2) IMHO using > the XO as XS is not a good idea. Nothing explains your post why it's a bad idea. If you are going to setup a "safe" cabinet of some sort, it's not very different to make an XO safe from making a tower pc safe

[Server-devel] physical security of the XS and XO-as-XS

2008-10-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
[Note: this is a resend - with some better editing - the earlier email got sent prematurely...] On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 3:43 AM, Bryan Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2) IMHO using > the XO as XS is not a good idea. Nothing explains in your post why it's a bad idea. If you are going to setup a

[Server-devel] One more note on Moodle - infra vs lms

2008-10-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
Had a good chat last week with Ed, Kim and others, and one of the items that came up was "what is this moodle thing and why is it important?". To state it briefly, Moodle is a fantastic learning mgmt system / course mgmt system and it's been for a while very much what OLPC people thought the XS so

[Server-devel] xs-livecd - pushed out some updates

2008-10-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
For those playing at home with the XS build, I had been carrying a few chagnes in xs-livecd that had not been committed or published. Done now. Conspiracy theorists can rest assured, no mystery in how the XS is composed. and before I forget - thanks again to Jerry for all the help figuring that an

[Server-devel] revisor - strange regression with comps-cleanup misplaced...

2008-10-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
After 2 weeks of not building the XS build, I built it again today. It didn't want to build. Running with --debug 10 the output ends with... Running command: /usr/bin/xsltproc --novalid -o /var/tmp/revisor-pungi/0.5/xs-f9-i386/comps.xml /usr/share/revisor/comps/comps-cleanup.xsl /var/tmp/revisor-p

[Server-devel] Revisor / yum odd error with f9 updates.newkey repo: Missing Dependency: glibc-common = 2.8-3 is needed by package glibc-2.8-3.i386

2008-10-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
Right now, revisor can build a pristine F9 installer CD but cannot build a F9 + updates installer CD. The problem appears by merely enabling the additional repo in the stock F9 config files that ship with Revisor. It has also been reported elsewhere: https://fedorahosted.org/genome/ticket/28 The

Re: [Server-devel] Revisor / yum odd error with f9 updates.newkey repo: Missing Dependency: glibc-common = 2.8-3 is needed by package glibc-2.8-3.i386

2008-10-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Connie Sieh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I excluded glibc* from the "Everything" repository in the > revisor-f9-i386.conf file just to get past this error. How do you do that? m -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Architect - ask intere

Re: [Server-devel] Revisor / yum odd error with f9 updates.newkey repo: Missing Dependency: glibc-common = 2.8-3 is needed by package glibc-2.8-3.i386

2008-10-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Connie Sieh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Add > > excludes=glibc* > > to /etc/revisor/conf.d/revisor-f9-i386.conf in the [fedora] section. > (substitute x86_64 as needed) thanks - I found the excludes in the manpage as well - that definitely fixed it. cheers, m

[Server-devel] Getting closer: XS-0.5-dev5 "preview"

2008-10-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
Grab it and take it for a spin http://xs-dev.laptop.org/xs/other/OLPCXS-0.5-dev5-i386.iso SHA1 3b911f1cf92d2f90314b8332ff8d9661a2c145ad Size 532M This preview includes various fixes -- cheers, m -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions

[Server-devel] Tying yum to a package "stream"?

2008-10-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
OLPC's XS ships a number of patched packages. The packages are normally built with a different "stream" or "flavour" (they don't say "f9" but "xs05") and sit in a special repository. Is there a good way to ensure revisor/yum prefers the packages from the xs stream or repo over the standard F9 rele

Re: [Server-devel] Tying yum to a package "stream"?

2008-10-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 3:27 PM, seth vidal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > you can use yum's priorities plugin to achieve similar results. It's a bit simpler than apt but I can sure work with this. Thanks! > Just as in the apt-world configuring priorities/pinning for > longterm/widespread use is a

Re: [Server-devel] Tying yum to a package "stream"?

2008-10-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Jerry Vonau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Could you not use the xs-config/xs-pkgs to state specific Requires:= to > control whether an updated package is able replace what is currently > installed or "to be installed" on the system, kind of protecting the "base > ins

Re: [Server-devel] Tying yum to a package "stream"?

2008-10-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
Thanks a lot for your notes. *Extremely* useful. A few comments below, On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 5:39 PM, James Antill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 16:48 +1300, Martin Langhoff wrote: >> I am shipping a heavily "preconfigured" spin, the OLPC School Se

Re: [Server-devel] Tying yum to a package "stream"?

2008-10-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Mike McLean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you go this route, I think what you want is obsoletes. Obsoletes says > "this packages replaces this one." Conflicts says "this package cannot be > installed at the same time as this other one." Does 'obsoletes' also mean

Re: [Server-devel] Getting closer: XS-0.5-dev5 "preview"

2008-10-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Jerry Vonau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With the change to OLPCXS, anaconda is no longer finding the cdrom as valid, > think you have to revise xs-release. duh! Fixed and building a replacement. thanks for the sanitycheck! cheers, m -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EM

[Server-devel] Install instructions cleanup - thanks!

2008-10-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
A while ago the install instructions on the Wiki got a big cleanup, and now are short and simple. Once xs-0.5 is out the door I'll review and update them. But a lot of work has already been done. Thanks to Wad who tackled the main cleanup and to others thjat have done some editing on it since. I'm

Re: [Server-devel] Getting closer: XS-0.5-dev5 "preview"

2008-10-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Grab it and take it for a spin > http://xs-dev.laptop.org/xs/other/OLPCXS-0.5-dev5-i386.iso http://xs-dev.laptop.org/xs/other/OLPCXS-0.5-dev6-i386.iso is now slowly being copied to the

[Server-devel] xs-config 0.4.5 - several changes in networking...

2008-10-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
If you look at xs-config-0.4.5-1.noarch.rpm (in olpcxs-testing) you'll see some major changes around networking - the commit is http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=projects/xs-config;a=commitdiff;h=80eea6eeb20a353200ce3fbfe9a4cdeb9b50f1c2 This naturally needs some peer review. What I've done is roughly..

Re: [Server-devel] Getting closer: XS-0.5-dev5 "preview"

2008-10-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Jerry Vonau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However "domain_config" is leaving > its xs_domain_name file in olpc-scripts instead of sysconfig causing "make > dhcpd.conf" and thus dhcpd to fail. That is very weird - and was fixed ages ago - perhaps you have an outdated

[Server-devel] Getting closer: XS-0.5-dev7 -- network changes and xs-otp

2008-10-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
Grab it and take it for a spin http://xs-dev.laptop.org/xs/other/OLPCXS-0.5-dev7-i386.iso SHA1 8327b0176fa35db01aa544dce5ad568a0bb9df15 Size 532M Has all the network changes -- I don't think it will upgrade 100% correctly from earlier previews, but will upgrade from xs-0.4 correctly. cheers, m

[Server-devel] Tightening security for XS-0.5 -- things you can do on XS-0.4

2008-10-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
If you have a XS-0.4 server with its publc IP address on the internet or on any other public network, make sure you firewall off *all* the ports on that interface. You might want to make an exception for SSH is you connect with ssh to the public address. This is a rather important security measure

Re: [Server-devel] Getting closer: XS-0.5-dev5 "preview"

2008-10-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Jerry Vonau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well there are 2 issues here, that one above and the root cause of having > named, dhcpd, etc.. fail on firstboot is that olpc-network-config was used > to call domain_config and network_config to enable the auto-configuratio

[Server-devel] yummy moodle - xs-0.5

2008-10-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
Grab a recent xs-0.5 and do yum --disablerepo=olpcxs --enablerepo=olpcxs-testing install xs-config moodle-xs /etc/init.d/moodle start Now you have a (basic!) Moodle as the index page of the XS. Most of the work has gone into the infrastructure behind it. Some changes to moodle I've haven't

Re: [Server-devel] yummy moodle - xs-0.5

2008-10-16 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 6:43 AM, David Van Assche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Martin, > Is there a list of the changes you made somewhere... from a > standard moodle install...? This will probably never have a pretty list - sorry! - but you can track the patches that diverge from upstream in

Re: [Server-devel] Getting closer: XS-0.5-dev5 "preview"

2008-10-16 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 7:43 AM, Jerry Vonau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just so you know, service dhcpd "anything" or /etc/init.d/dhcpd "anything" > from the keyboard is broken... until you change away from the built-in > defaults. "You must run the *_config before DHCPd can run", is the meat of

[Server-devel] Cutting a RC for the XS

2008-10-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
I think we are RC-ready, I should be running revisor and uploading an iso now. Unfortunately, I'm packing for a 36hs plane ride, and then I'll probably be behind really bad connections for a few days. Will see what I can do. In the meantime, you can install the latest iso and update from the olpcx

Re: [Server-devel] yummy moodle - xs-0.5

2008-10-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Grab a recent xs-0.5 and do > > yum --disablerepo=olpcxs --enablerepo=olpcxs-testing install > xs-config moodle-xs > /etc/init.d/moodle start > > Now you have a (basic!) Moodle as the in

Re: [Server-devel] 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Bill Bogstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin will probably hate me for this... Oh, I won't! However implements this gets to say how it's done; good to hear you have an opinion that you're willing to back with code :-) > If you can assume the existence of an X

Re: [Server-devel] 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
Ok - I had missed the whole thread in my earlier reply. On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 9:24 AM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > *But*, we should be able to: >* Print postscript (or pdf, or whatever, just pick *one*) to > school server via CUP (IPP?), and install a "decent selection" o

Re: [Server-devel] Backup of laptops

2008-10-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:13 PM, Pia Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They have the right ownership, and the ds-backup.py on my 767 image doesn't > look the same as in that trac log. I'll look into it some more. The other thing to check is that ~/.sugar/default/owner.key in the XO is mode 600 .

Re: [Server-devel] Weird timestamps on XS 0.4 user backup directories.

2008-10-26 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 12:46 AM, Bill Bogstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not an operational problem, just a bit of user confusion. I've now > skimmed the python/shell/cron/incron code/configs and see how the > everything more or less fits together now. Although, I've never seen > setfacl actua

Re: [Server-devel] DanGuardian and XS Plans

2008-10-26 Thread Martin Langhoff
2008/10/24 Anna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I haven't been keeping up with this list as well as I should have, but I > just noticed some discussion regarding internet filtering in Birmingham. Good info thanks! I'm trying to understand more aobut what people are doing, what tools are useful from an educ

Re: [Server-devel] help with small/first world XS deployment issues requested

2008-10-26 Thread Martin Langhoff
2008/10/25 David Farning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Bill, at Sugar Labs we are working on taking the olpc server technologies > beyond the xs:) That is a very strange message. What do you mean? m -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don

Re: [Server-devel] xs-otp: one time passwords for the XS

2008-10-26 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do the XS installation instructions offer any guidance on prohibiting > booting with init=/bin/bash, booting from external media, or simply > removing the XS hard drive and manipulating it from a separate machine? "Physica

Re: [Server-devel] xs-otp: one time passwords for the XS

2008-10-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 11:10 PM, Bill Bogstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's a crazy implementation idea for adding pre-boot security code I've discussed a few ideas similar to this with Wad -- he's the man to talk to about hw. Definitely possible, and definitely too complex / hard to get in

Re: [Server-devel] 8.2 and updating

2008-10-31 Thread Martin Langhoff
2008/10/31 David Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > We are all getting used to the new slick version 8.2 Cool! > (a)Will the XS support update service, caching updates so that they are > only downloaded once? Yes - look for wiki documentation (and posts on this list) about - "xs-rsync" for co

Re: [Server-devel] What's cooking inthe XS pot -- 2008-11-05

2008-11-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:31 PM, David Farning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you think xs will be stable enough to do a server related book sprint at > Fedora/OLPC/Sugar (FOS)con? Is that mid January 09? I'd say 0.6 will be out by then, and should be a reasonable target to start documenting. Some

Re: [Server-devel] /etc/xs-sigchecks-enabled

2008-11-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:56 PM, Douglas Bagnall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, a rename and clarification of semantics is quite doable, and > sooner is better. I might be able to do it tonight or tomorrow. That'd be _fantastic_. > By default, the xs-check script errors if the flag is not ther

Re: [Server-devel] [ejabberd] Custom roster behaviour without writing your own mod_roster

2008-11-06 Thread Martin Langhoff
Mickael, Christoph, thanks! Excellent pointers. A couple of followup questions... On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 5:14 AM, Mickaël Rémond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Using mod_roster_odbc should work very well in your case. I would use that > approach. - How many DB queries does mod_roster_odbc make? W

[Server-devel] School Server features page

2008-11-06 Thread Martin Langhoff
So, as part of the XS 0.5 stuff, I've put together a brief "product" page for it. It shows that I can be a marketer too, but probably a bad one. All the functional features are listed there -- a couple have caveats, and several are somewhat limited in their current implementation. Bear in mind, th

[Server-devel] Anaconda installs OOM with selinux-policy-targeted rpm from F9 updates

2008-11-06 Thread Martin Langhoff
One the last rounds of testing the new release of OLPCXS, I rebuilt it with fresh packages from F9 update and started testing the installer. Funny thing, the install did not complete -- instead, the machine would switch off after spending a few minutes trying to install selinux-policy-targeted. Af

Re: [Server-devel] Anaconda installs OOM with selinux-policy-targeted rpm from F9 updates

2008-11-07 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Daniel J Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > selinux-policy-targeted is a memory hog, but it should not have changed > that drastically in updates. > > Is this repeatable? 100% repeatable on the 3 attempts on the lower-mem machine. On the same machin The package se

Re: [Server-devel] Anaconda installs OOM with selinux-policy-targeted rpm from F9 updates

2008-11-07 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Daniel J Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> selinux-policy-targeted is a memory hog, but it should not have changed >> that drastically in updates. >&g

Re: [Server-devel] XS - XO archiving and backup (was Re: [OLPC India] Issues on the ground )

2008-11-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Bill Bogstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've personally used the version in XS 0.4 to verify that individual > journal entries can be restored. Good to hear that - great and thanks! > However, you probably don't want to > use this version in an actual deploymen

Re: [Server-devel] w.l.o School Server on SideBar.

2008-11-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
2008/11/9 Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I've added to the side bar of wiki.laptop.org School Server. (This is under > projects). > To have an easier access to the documentation related to the XS. great - thanks! m -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Serve

[Server-devel] RW Compressed FUSE FSs? (Re: XS - XO archiving and backup)

2008-11-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On backup and restore, aside from the comments already mentioned, I > suggest you pay careful attention to the available space on your XS. You > should have about 2GB free space on your XS for each XO. If you don't > have eno

Re: [Server-devel] XS - XO archiving and backup (was Re: [OLPC India] Issues on the ground )

2008-11-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 10:16 AM, David Van Assche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One package to look at is Mahara, also from your neck of the woods > (Martin) which you've probably heard of. I installed it along a Moodle > install and took advantage of xmlrpc to do sharing of data and single > sign

Re: [Server-devel] Issue with ds-backup in XS 0.4

2008-11-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:18 AM, Bill Bogstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was just about to try to upgrade my XS 0.4 to 0.5 dev8 and noticed > something odd concerning ds-backup. When I originally installed 0.4, Thanks for the report! As Douglas mentions, you can force a re-registration; howe

Re: [Server-devel] XS 0.5 upgrade notes

2008-11-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:38 PM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > Hmmm. Perhaps the patch I've done should be actually be placed in > xs-release instead. Nah. /etc/yum.conf belongs to the yum package, as you mentioned. xs-config made a mess of it, and now xs-confi

[Server-devel] Boot-on-power setting for the XO?

2008-11-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
One of my mid-term goals is to be able to run the XS sw on the XO hw -- and one of the main recommendations I am making for configuration of the XS machines is that the BIOS is set to 'boot on power'. This is mainly because we want as much uptime as possible in locations with unreliable power suppl

[Server-devel] Another RC - OLPCXS-0.5-dev10 - and updated install/upgrade instructions

2008-11-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
As usual, at http://xs-dev.laptop.org/xs/other/ - it has minor fixes in moodle-xs. And I've updated the wiki http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Installing_Software to match XS-0.5. There is some nastiness in the setting of hostname, and deserves a cleanup of domain_config and friends. For now we'll work

Re: [Server-devel] suggest new mailing lists for OLPC

2008-11-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Bill Bogstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can I suggest instead a new mailing list for server SUPPORT be > created as opposed to DEVELOPMENT? And what about doing XO support on > commmunity-support rather then devel? I think that both server-devel > and devel are

Re: [Server-devel] suggest new mailing lists for OLPC

2008-11-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Bill Bogstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I guess I need to make myself more clear. I'm not telling developers > not to be involved in support mailing lists. > Nor am I suggesting that users shouldn't be allowed to "drink from the > development firehose" if they de

Re: [Server-devel] Installing on dual boot

2008-11-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi David! the xs-0.4 installer will wipe your disk clean. Avoid it! The xs-0.5 installer (wait a day or so for the formal release, or grab the 'dev10' candidate) is pretty much a vanilla Fedora installer using anaconda. That means that you can use the usual "how to get Fedora 9 to dual boot with

Re: [Server-devel] iso size

2008-11-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 8:32 PM, Jerry Vonau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > didn't run it through mkslim, boot.iso and friends are present Good spotting - I ran it through mkslim but then grabbed the unslimmed one. Oops - sorry. There is one lingering bug with idmgr that I've fixed yesterday. Spinn

Re: [Server-devel] iso size

2008-11-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 9:18 PM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Spinning hopefully the last one. There's a dev11 now in the server, and I think it's The One. But I'll formally release it tomorrow, I think :-) cheers, m -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PRO

Re: [Server-devel] Concerns about ejabberd + 767

2008-11-16 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 12:19 AM, Bryan Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would like to know if anyone here has seriously tested build 767 > together with XS 0.4? Specifically the ejabberd and ID manager. Yes. The OLPC QA team has done lots of testing of 8.2, all against XS-0.4. Following the i

Re: [Server-devel] Tidy up of the xs-0.5 yum repo - what differentiates OLPC's XS from vanilla Fedora?

2008-11-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Jeremy Katz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 14:23 -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: >> A couple packages with custom patches... >> ./ejabberd-xs-2.0.1-10.xs9.olpc.i386.rpm >> ./ejabberd-xs-2.0.1-11.fc9.olpc.i386.rpm

Re: [Server-devel] Planning for XS-0.6

2008-11-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course, > if you can help a bit and you have other priorities, you can make your > feature happen in time for 0.6 too (and I'll try my darndest to help!) I've been asked in private for

Re: [Server-devel] Planning for XS-0.6

2008-11-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 8:30 PM, Jerry Vonau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The basic idea is to break yum/rpm install process by yanking the >> power away from the machine at different points of the installation, >> and seeing how the overall process recovers. And harassing or >> contratulating Set

Re: [Server-devel] Setting up XS-0.5 for testing

2008-11-18 Thread Martin Langhoff
2008/11/18 Dan Poltawski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I'm looking at setting up a simple test rig for playing with the school > server, and I have the following hardware for use: > > * An XO > * A generic laptop with a wired & a wireless interface and XS-0.5 > installed > * A generic wireless AP > * (A N

Re: [Server-devel] [ejabberd] ejabberd tests with old and new TLS code

2008-11-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 5:34 AM, Douglas Bagnall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With the @online@ shared roster, I have found a small decrease in both > memory and CPU consumption with the new tls code, as shown here: > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Ejabberd_resource_tests/tls_comparison The graphs al

Re: [Server-devel] ejabberd tests with old and new TLS code

2008-11-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Caroline! > TLS = ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_Layer_Security correct? Yes. ejabberd is a memory hog, and we recently discovered (hint: lots of detail in the mailing list archive) that it's only a memory hog when ssl/tls connections are used. Using ssl or tls in the xmpp protocol has

Re: [Server-devel] [ejabberd] ejabberd tests with old and new TLS code

2008-11-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Douglas Bagnall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin: some of my earliest tests were suggesting peaks over 1MB per > connection, which might be the source of the confusion. But for those > I probably *did* have the shared roster on, though because I was > unaware th

Re: [Server-devel] question on SSL enabling ejabberd

2008-11-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 6:17 PM, Patrick Giagnocavo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has anyone compared, or looked at, the performance of ejabberd with its > builtin SSL/TLS support, versus using the "stunnel" program to run on > the port, acting as an SSL-encrypting proxy? Not really. However, the r

Re: [Server-devel] small form factor XS options?

2008-11-26 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Bryan Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am shopping for some XS options to test out ahead of our spring > deployment. Good idea! > I have looked at the MSI Wind PC, Eee Box, and the Shuttle X2700N. All > have nice small form factors, low prices, and Atom chips.

[Server-devel] What's cooking inthe XS pot -- 2008-11-26

2008-11-26 Thread Martin Langhoff
XS-0.5 is done and out of the way. My focus now is on 0.6. While still in Cambridge I worked on a draft a plan for 0.6 -- which I've posted earlier. The focus is deployability in Peru (lease mgmt) and Rwanda (scalability). Some valuable features lost in the triage, features that are fun and easy

Re: [Server-devel] OLPC XS 0.5 Released

2008-11-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 1:17 AM, Bryan Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin, can u provide and .md5 for this and future releases? thanks I'll prepare that, and sign it with my GPG key. Don't know how widely published/trusted it is, but it'll do. My really well trusted key from a couple of ye

Re: [Server-devel] Mini ejabberd workplan notes...

2008-11-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 2:57 AM, Douglas Bagnall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, it seems to work, though I have run out of time to really be sure. Any hint as to how much you've managed t test? > http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=users/dbagnall/ejabberd-rpm.git;a=summary > http://dev.laptop.org/~db

Re: [Server-devel] Content in Moodle

2008-11-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
2008/11/26 David Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I would like to understand the vision for content management on the server > using Moodle. Understandable - I haven't fleshed that out yet. > Up to this point (with version 0.4), we have been using browsable folders of > HTML content (including expa

[Server-devel] Design notes for Moodle as education tool

2008-11-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
Last week I had a good chance to sit down with people from the Edu team @ OLPC, and we fleshed what were the main changes we'd need in Moodle to make it work for our users. The focus was on constructivism and making things easier for kids 6-12. The wikipage is here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Mo

Re: [Server-devel] ejabberd with postgres

2008-11-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 2:28 AM, Douglas Bagnall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [Apologies to bystanders trying to follow this email: it mainly > consists of disjointed snippets I need to tell Martin] Thanks - this is very good material. > After a fairly straightforward substitution of postgresql f

Re: [Server-devel] Installing zero point 5

2008-11-29 Thread Martin Langhoff
2008/11/29 David Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I just wrote a long email about trying to install 0.5 reliably and > reproducibly, but I decided not to send it, but to just ask if other people > could share their experience. That is very strange. The only "reliability" issue I have seen is that --

Re: [Server-devel] Networking on Version 0.5 .

2008-12-04 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Jerry Vonau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ensure that you set both the role and domain name for the server while > the network is stopped, saves seeing some error messages when you > restart, then (re)start the network and restart all the web based > services. or you

Re: [Server-devel] XS 0.5 Second Attempt at eth1

2008-12-04 Thread Martin Langhoff
2008/12/3 Anna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Has anyone gotten eth1 on XS 0.5 working? I have, at least on 4 different bits of hw, but I worked on it too much to be a good tester of it. Others have installed successfully. One thing that 0.5 has is that it almost always picks the ordering of the NICs _in

Re: [Server-devel] XS 0.5 Second Attempt at eth1

2008-12-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 12:06 AM, Jerry Vonau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anna wrote: >> So, what are the repercussions of this? > Not sure... Martin? Good sleuthing! Bonding-related errors was the last thing I'd imagined, and with the e1000 driver too -- it's widely used and generally well mainta

Re: [Server-devel] Server-devel Digest, Vol 20, Issue 7

2008-12-08 Thread Martin Langhoff
2008/12/6 Eroni Tuiloma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > There is definitely a problem with Bonding and old hardware , i have been Is there? Right now the marc archive -- my usual kernel list archive -- is down, but googling around, it seems that there were lots of problems discussed until 2006. From there

Re: [Server-devel] Trying to Understand the Why of Bonding in XS 0.5

2008-12-08 Thread Martin Langhoff
2008/12/8 Anna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > What I've gleaned so far - the purpose of bonding as far as the XS is > concerned is to allow the APs attached to eth1 and the usb active antennas > to work with dhcp in an environment where any of these devices may be > plugged in at any point without restarti

Re: [Server-devel] Amateurish Workaround to Get Bonding to Work With eth1

2008-12-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Jerry Vonau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anna wrote: >> ifenslave lanbond0 eth1 >> > > That's odd, the network init scripts should be doing that ifenslave > part, I think we're missing some small option in the ifcfg-eth1 file. I am starting to agree -- we are eithe

Re: [Server-devel] Amateurish Workaround to Get Bonding to Work With eth1

2008-12-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Martin Langhoff > I spotted exactly the same difference and tested it -- does not seem > to work. Hope to get to the bottom of it. Alright, fixed. Credit to Anna and Jerry for narrowing down on the issue. The actual problem is laughably simple -- late in t

Re: [Server-devel] XS 0.5 Second Attempt at eth1

2008-12-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
2008/12/5 Reuben K. Caron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > After doing a clean install 4 times and dhcpd not starting Thanks for the dedication and the report - I managed to repro the issue as you describe below. ... > When I > > cd /etc/sysconfig/olpc-scripts > ./domain_config xs5.org > > It creates the xs

Re: [Server-devel] Amateurish Workaround to Get Bonding to Work With eth1

2008-12-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Reuben K. Caron wrote: > I get : > > Error getting repository data for olpcxs-testing, repository not found That's kind of bizarre. Maybe the machine is not on the internet? What does the command below say? (it may take a couple of minutes...) yum repolist --

Re: [Server-devel] Amateurish Workaround to Get Bonding to Work With eth1

2008-12-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 7:06 PM, Reuben K. Caron wrote: >yum repolist --enablerepo=* > repolist: 0 ... > This is on an upgrade from 0.4 Doesn't sound good. Some more questions -- - can you email me any install / upgrade logs in /root/ ? - what does /etc/yum.conf say? - have you got files

Re: [Server-devel] Collaboration unreliable 0.5

2008-12-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 7:59 PM, David Leeming wrote: > I apologise if this issue has already been dealt with on this list. Thanks for bringing this up, it's definitely news to me. Testing on the ejabberd on 0.5 has been on load testing -- this is a new issue. A few questions - Are you using Ac

Re: [Server-devel] xs on cd

2008-12-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 12:09 AM, Tony Anderson wrote: > At OLENepal, we are using a USB stick to install XS on the servers. We > have created a 'boot cd' which installs XS from the USB stick when the > server is unable to boot from CD. This saves have to reburn CD's. I do the same - there's an "

Re: [Server-devel] New xs-config and a 5.1-dev iso...

2008-12-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Anna wrote: > In one experiment, I registered 2 XOs (XOA and XOB) to the XS and it created > the moodle logins with links on the moodle login page. For some reason, XOA > was given student permissions and XOB was given course creator permissions. That's by design

Re: [Server-devel] Blog Integration && Forewarded Workflow Simplification

2008-12-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
2008/12/17 Lucas Wojciehcowski : > What do you think about the moodle Elgg integration? Is that too much "extra > baggage" for the OLPC project, or could it be a nice solution for blog > integration? I wrote most of the Elgg/Moodle integration a few years ago. It's hideous -- in part because Elgg

[Server-devel] Exploding wireless interfaces on your laptop

2008-12-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
I spent a good part of yesterday trying to diagnose why an active antenna was failing to work on my test mauhine. Not only it was failing, over time stranger and stranger messages would appear in dmesg, random strings, chunks of hex. The machine would get less and less stable, things would fail str

Re: [Server-devel] Collaboration unreliable 0.5

2008-12-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
2008/12/16 Anna : > So I think we've tested ejabberd on XS 0.5 with as much as any user group Anna, David, I'm trying to reproduce the problem. Any hints as to how long it takes for it to happen? What triggers laptops not seeing eachother? I'll keep trying stuff... but any hint... (All along I a

Re: [Server-devel] Exploding wireless interfaces on your laptop

2008-12-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Jerry Vonau wrote: > Or you could edit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and rename > the offending device to be something else, and rename/edit the ifcfg- > file to match the new device name. Yes, could do that too. Anyway - here's an interesting problem

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