Re: [sig-policy] Prop-115 returned to author for further consideration

2015-12-15 Thread Ruri Hiromi
rmation part will > be removed from next proposal). > > Yours Sincerely, > -- > Tomohiro Fujisaki > > > > From: Masato Yamanishi > Subject: Re: [sig-policy] Prop-115 returned to author for further > consideration > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:49:12 +0900 >

Re: [sig-policy] Prop-115 returned to author for further consideration

2015-09-15 Thread Tomohiro -INSTALLER- Fujisaki/藤崎 智宏
nment information. In other mail, we'll explain the case in which Iv4 port range information will be useful again (but this IPv4 information part will be removed from next proposal). Yours Sincerely, -- Tomohiro Fujisaki From: Masato Yamanishi Subject: Re: [sig-policy] Prop-115 returned to

Re: [sig-policy] Prop-115 returned to author for further consideration

2015-09-14 Thread Masato Yamanishi
Aftab and All, I'm very sorry that I didn't express myself well in the meeting and in the report, (please understand that Adam and I should make this report in 15mins) but I expect the author to improve prop-115 based on the discussion and the survey result. Regards, Masato Yamanishi APNIC SIG Ch

Re: [sig-policy] Prop-115 returned to author for further consideration

2015-09-14 Thread Aftab Siddiqui
I believe, "pushed back to mailing list for discussion" and "returned the proposal to authors for further consideration" are two different things. *From Transcript:* So I need to decide how to proceed with this proposal itself. Let me push back this proposal to the mailing list

Re: [sig-policy] Prop-115 returned to author for further consideration

2015-09-14 Thread Masato Yamanishi
Skeeve, 2015-09-13 1:03 GMT+09:00 Skeeve Stevens : > Masato-san, > > With the greatest respect for Tomohiro-san and Ruri-san and yourself, I am > very disappointed with your decision to return prop-115 to the list AGAIN > for discussion and for a survey. > It is up to you being disappointed wit

Re: [sig-policy] Prop-115 returned to author for further consideration

2015-09-13 Thread Andy Linton
I agree. On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 9:13 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > I do not support the proposal. > > Contorting policy around the abomination that is CGN instead of > recognizing that no amount of policy or other contortion will preserve > usability in IPv4 and just getting on with the business of

Re: [sig-policy] Prop-115 returned to author for further consideration

2015-09-13 Thread Owen DeLong
I do not support the proposal. Contorting policy around the abomination that is CGN instead of recognizing that no amount of policy or other contortion will preserve usability in IPv4 and just getting on with the business of making IPv6 deployment ubiquitous is counterproductive for the interne

Re: [sig-policy] Prop-115 returned to author for further consideration

2015-09-13 Thread Jahangir Hossain
Hi , Actually i'm also thinking why this is important ? or why we are trying to mapping port with addressing specially in IPv4? I think their are so many reasons not support this proposal specially by considering technical feasibility and scalability . Just one question for my personal understand

Re: [sig-policy] Prop-115 returned to author for further consideration

2015-09-13 Thread Seun Ojedeji
Hi, Speaking as a non-region participants and haven looked through the APNIC PDP[1], it does seem that if there is no consensus on a proposal, it needs to be discussed in other to determine if a proposal should be withdrawn or not. I quote the relevant section below: "If there is no consensus

Re: [sig-policy] Prop-115 returned to author for further consideration

2015-09-13 Thread Andrew Yager
I do not support this proposal, and consider that such data is largely irrelevant, likely to be prone to inaccuracies and technically infeasible to manage on an ongoing basis or practically implement the filtering described in the proposal. If individual providers which to disclose such informatio

Re: [sig-policy] Prop-115 returned to author for further consideration

2015-09-12 Thread Skeeve Stevens
Masato-san, With the greatest respect for Tomohiro-san and Ruri-san and yourself, I am very disappointed with your decision to return prop-115 to the list AGAIN for discussion and for a survey. You asked for consensus on a Survey and asked who was FOR it - no one (I can see)... who was AGAINST -

[sig-policy] Prop-115 returned to author for further consideration

2015-09-12 Thread Masato Yamanishi
Dear colleagues Version 3 of prop-115: Registration of detailed assignment information in whois DB, did not reach consensus at the APNIC 40 Open Policy Meeting. The Policy SIG Chair requested the Secretariat conduct further research into the problem statement and returned the proposal to the auth