Re: [sig-policy] prop-118-v001: No need policy in APNIC region

2017-02-24 Thread Pacswitch Email
Dear all, I can tell you my real experience with APNIC, when I want to transfer my unused IP ranges to a Singapore based ISP from my account, they deny it!! That is ridiculous! They said I cannot transfer! I cannot believe it if the IP address I owned but I cannot transfer it to a new owner. C

Re: [sig-policy] prop-118-v001: No need policy in APNIC region

2017-02-24 Thread David Hilario
Hi, The justification for the needs was/is great to have in place to protect a free pool of scarce resources. Maintaining a correct registry, with the proper information is one of the core responsibilities of the RIRs, and as a community we must develop policies that allows the RIR to do that job

Re: [sig-policy] prop-118-v001: No need policy in APNIC region

2017-02-24 Thread Owen DeLong
I disagreeā€¦ I believe that needs testing still preserves the idea of distributing addresses to those with need even in a post-exhaustion world. This serves to discourage speculative transactions and other transfers to those not actually needing addresses which would only drive prices up and not

Re: [sig-policy] prop-118-v001: No need policy in APNIC region

2017-02-24 Thread Pacswitch Email
Hello all, I agreed that APNIC should accept all transfer without question because IP resource could be count into a assets to the IP holder in accounting. That's mean the ip holder have the right to request transfer to or from other APNIC members or other RIR. Ernest Tse Sent from Mobile >

Re: [sig-policy] prop-118-v001: No need policy in APNIC region

2017-02-24 Thread David Hilario
Hi Aftab, This is only to simplify things, need based policies are there to protect the free pool from exhaustion and ensure fair distribution. Space that is already out there can already be transferred without much hassle, removing the need base justification just simplifies the whole process, m