Re: [sig-policy] IP Leasing BoF at APRICOT 2014

2014-02-20 Thread Dean Pemberton
you all there. Dean On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Dean Pemberton d...@deanpemberton.com wrote: Good Morning all, There will be a BoF on the subject of IP address leasing at the APRICOT 2014 meeting on Tuesday, 25th Feb 2014 at 17:30 - 19:00 in the Grand Caymans room on Level 10. I

Re: [sig-policy] Policy Regarding Transfers of Legacy Space

2014-02-25 Thread Dean Pemberton
-policy mailing list sig-policy@lists.apnic.netjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sig-policy@lists.apnic.net'); http://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/sig-policy -- -- Dean Pemberton Technical Policy Advisor InternetNZ +64 21 920 363 (mob) d...@internetnz.net.nz To promote the Internet's

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal ] prop-112: On demand expansion of IPv6 address allocation size in legacy IPv6 space [SECURITY=UNCLASSIFIED]

2015-02-03 Thread Dean Pemberton
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Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification in the ASN eligibility criteria

2015-02-04 Thread Dean Pemberton
has the current policy in the eyes of the host masters ever been a barrier to entry? Very valid point. Regards, Aftab A. Siddiqui -- -- Dean Pemberton Technical Policy Advisor InternetNZ +64 21 920 363 (mob) d...@internetnz.net.nz To promote the Internet's benefits and uses

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification in the ASN eligibility criteria

2015-02-05 Thread Dean Pemberton
is present. Owen On Feb 4, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Dean Pemberton d...@internetnz.net.nz javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','d...@internetnz.net.nz'); wrote: So it doesn't look like there is a problem here. The hostmasters are clear about the current policy, they explain it to people who contact them

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification in the ASN eligibility criteria

2015-02-05 Thread Dean Pemberton
, please raise your hand and concluding from the lack of raised hands that everyone is present. Owen On Feb 4, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Dean Pemberton d...@internetnz.net.nz javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','d...@internetnz.net.nz'); wrote: So it doesn't look like there is a problem here. The hostmasters

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification in the ASN eligibility criteria

2015-02-26 Thread Dean Pemberton
, and equipment at clerical positions rarely need to have such connectivity. Thing is though that we haven't tossed out the rest of RFC1918 just because some of it didn't age well. -- Dean Pemberton Technical Policy Advisor InternetNZ +64 21 920 363 (mob) d...@internetnz.net.nz

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification in the ASN eligibility criteria

2015-02-26 Thread Dean Pemberton
thinks they might like to have them. Great business for anyone clipping the ticket on the transaction. -- Dean Pemberton Technical Policy Advisor InternetNZ +64 21 920 363 (mob) d...@internetnz.net.nz To promote the Internet's benefits and uses, and protect its potential. On Fri, Feb 27, 2015

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification in the ASN eligibility criteria

2015-02-27 Thread Dean Pemberton
* sig-policy: APNIC SIG on resource management policy * ___ sig-policy mailing list sig-policy@lists.apnic.net javascript:; http://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/sig-policy -- -- Dean Pemberton Technical Policy Advisor InternetNZ

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification in the ASN eligibility criteria

2015-02-27 Thread Dean Pemberton
:43 PM, Dean Pemberton d...@internetnz.net.nz javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','d...@internetnz.net.nz'); wrote: It did say immediate future. I would say that it seems reasonable that if you're claiming that you're going to multihome in the immediate future that you would know the ASNs with whom

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification in the ASN eligibility criteria

2015-02-27 Thread Dean Pemberton
That's what we strive for. Something for everyone :) On Saturday, 28 February 2015, Skeeve Stevens ske...@eintellegonetworks.com wrote: That was bad planning :(. I was thinking of doing a lightening, but policy is more important. ...Skeeve On Saturday, February 28, 2015, Dean Pemberton d

Re: [sig-policy] New version of prop-114: Modification in the ASN eligibility criteria

2015-03-04 Thread Dean Pemberton
-- -- Dean Pemberton Technical Policy Advisor InternetNZ +64 21 920 363 (mob) d...@internetnz.net.nz To promote the Internet's benefits and uses, and protect its potential. * sig-policy: APNIC SIG on resource management policy * ___ sig

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification in the ASN eligibility criteria

2015-02-27 Thread Dean Pemberton
extend. If it is true, then the only sensible way forward is to allocate them as you become a community member. So we're back to Become an APNIC member, get an ASN Is that really what people are saying and is it really a sensible thing here? -- Dean Pemberton Technical Policy Advisor InternetNZ

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification in the ASN eligibility criteria

2015-02-27 Thread Dean Pemberton
: APNIC SIG on resource management policy * ___ sig-policy mailing list sig-policy@lists.apnic.net javascript:; http://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/sig-policy -- -- Dean Pemberton Technical Policy Advisor InternetNZ +64 21 920 363 (mob) d

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal ] prop-112: On demand expansion of IPv6 address allocation size in legacy IPv6 space [SECURITY=UNCLASSIFIED]

2015-02-23 Thread Dean Pemberton
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 7:13 AM, Masato Yamanishi myama...@gmail.com wrote: Q1. Is the benefit larger than the concern or not? What benefit? I'm not seeing one here. As far as I can see there is nothing stopping an LIR with one of these historical allocations (a /32 for example) coming back to

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification in the ASN eligibility criteria

2015-02-23 Thread Dean Pemberton
. Forcing us to debate this clause by clause is a waste of community time and effort. I strongly oppose this policy as it is currently written. Dean -- Dean Pemberton Technical Policy Advisor InternetNZ +64 21 920 363 (mob) d...@internetnz.net.nz To promote the Internet's benefits and uses

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-113: Modification in the IPv4 eligibility criteria

2015-02-23 Thread Dean Pemberton
than demonstrate an actual need for them? Dean -- Dean Pemberton Technical Policy Advisor InternetNZ +64 21 920 363 (mob) d...@internetnz.net.nz To promote the Internet's benefits and uses, and protect its potential. On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 7:21 AM, Masato Yamanishi myama...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal ] prop-112: On demand expansion of IPv6 address allocation size in legacy IPv6 space [SECURITY=UNCLASSIFIED]

2015-02-24 Thread Dean Pemberton
My reading of the policy proposal is that it aims to allow people who received allocations under the legacy allocation scheme to expand their address space in a contiguous fashion without having to shift out of their existing address space. Maybe I'm being dense but how are the restricted

Re: [sig-policy] New Version of prop-115-v001: Registration of detailed assignment information in whois DB

2015-02-24 Thread Dean Pemberton
-- Dean Pemberton Technical Policy Advisor InternetNZ +64 21 920 363 (mob) d...@internetnz.net.nz To promote the Internet's benefits and uses, and protect its potential. On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 6:11 AM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: I don’t believe the proposal offers enough benefit

Re: [sig-policy] New Version of prop-115-v001: Registration of detailed assignment information in whois DB

2015-02-24 Thread Dean Pemberton
, but that is optional. Regards, Masato 2015-02-24 14:41 GMT-06:00 Dean Pemberton d...@internetnz.net.nz javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','d...@internetnz.net.nz');: Yeah I think this is a bit of a radical proposal to accept at present. I'm not convinced we should be supporting CGN in this way, nor am I

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification in the ASN eligibility criteria

2015-02-24 Thread Dean Pemberton
Looks like a clarification on the definition of multi-homing from the secretariat is what we need before being able to proceed here. -- Dean Pemberton Technical Policy Advisor InternetNZ +64 21 920 363 (mob) d...@internetnz.net.nz To promote the Internet's benefits and uses, and protect its

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification in the ASN eligibility criteria

2015-02-24 Thread Dean Pemberton
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 6:20 AM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: Firstly I agree with Randy here. If you're not multi-homed then your routing policy can not be 'unique' from your single upstream. You may wish it was, but you have no way to enforce this. This is not true. You can be

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification in the ASN eligibility criteria

2015-02-25 Thread Dean Pemberton
and I'm ok with that. Dean -- Dean Pemberton Technical Policy Advisor InternetNZ +64 21 920 363 (mob) d...@internetnz.net.nz To promote the Internet's benefits and uses, and protect its potential. On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:36 PM, Guangliang Pan g...@apnic.net wrote: Hi Dean, If they meet

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification in the ASN eligibility criteria

2015-02-25 Thread Dean Pemberton
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Skeeve Stevens ske...@v4now.com wrote: I'm asking that the policy reflect an operators choice to decide how they manage their networks should they choose to do it that way. I believe we've entered the point of diminishing returns here. It has been shown

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification in the ASN eligibility criteria

2015-02-24 Thread Dean Pemberton
. Regards, Dean -- Dean Pemberton Technical Policy Advisor InternetNZ +64 21 920 363 (mob) d...@internetnz.net.nz To promote the Internet's benefits and uses, and protect its potential. On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 7:25 PM, Aftab Siddiqui aftab.siddi...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Guangliang for the update

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification in the ASN eligibility criteria

2015-02-24 Thread Dean Pemberton
Great - Thanks for that. As far as I can tell this covers all possible use cases I can see. I do not believe that there is a need for prop-114. I do not support the proposal -- Dean Pemberton Technical Policy Advisor InternetNZ +64 21 920 363 (mob) d...@internetnz.net.nz To promote

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification in the ASN eligibility criteria

2015-02-25 Thread Dean Pemberton
a reasonably short time thereafter). No need to change policy. -- Dean Pemberton Technical Policy Advisor InternetNZ +64 21 920 363 (mob) d...@internetnz.net.nz To promote the Internet's benefits and uses, and protect its potential. On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 9:09 PM, Skeeve Stevens ske...@v4now.com

Re: [sig-policy] Idea for 1.2.3.0/24

2015-05-21 Thread Dean Pemberton
No worries. I'm less worried about the use of this prefix than its use 'for good'. We do have to remember that this prefix is the IP equivalent of 256 barrels of radioactive waste. Toxic to all who touch them. I'm sure Geoff can give the exact Geiger counter measurements :) I'm in favour of

Re: [sig-policy] An interesting policy question

2015-12-06 Thread Dean Pemberton
Good Morning, InternetNZ, as the host of APRICOT 2016 would like to take this opportunity to reiterate that it seeks to support the APNIC Policy SIG session during APRICOT 2016 to be an environment where everyone can have their point of view heard in a safe environment. To this end InternetNZ,