Re: [sig-policy] prop-111-v004: Request-based expansion of IPv6 default allocation size (SECURITY=UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-09-18 Thread Owen DeLong
allocations (within reason). Owen Yours Sincerely, -- Tomohiro Fujisaki From: Skeeve Stevens ske...@v4now.com Subject: Re: [sig-policy] prop-111-v004: Request-based expansion of IPv6 default allocation size (SECURITY=UNCLASSIFIED) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 12:02:43 +1000 | Elvis

Re: [sig-policy] prop-111-v004: Request-based expansion of IPv6 default allocation size (SECURITY=UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-09-17 Thread HENDERSON MIKE, MR
Just for the avoidance of any doubt, I completely agree with Owen's position on this matter. To reiterate: * I can accept that sparse allocations already made on /29 boundaries can be expanded to fill the entire /29, if there is no room to expand them to a /28. * I do not

Re: [sig-policy] prop-111-v004: Request-based expansion of IPv6 default allocation size (SECURITY=UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-09-17 Thread Elvis Velea
Hi Owen and Mike, can you explain why /28 and not /29? Why waste so much and use only nibble boundaries? What would you accept if someone needs more than a /28, allocation of a /24? Kind regards, Elvis On 18/09/14 06:24, HENDERSON MIKE, MR wrote: Just for the avoidance of any doubt, I

Re: [sig-policy] prop-111-v004: Request-based expansion of IPv6 default allocation size (SECURITY=UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-09-17 Thread Elvis Velea
Hi Owen, what has ARIN to do with the policy in APNIC? I could also justify my arguments by saying that the RIPE policy allows up to a /29 per member.. and that policy works very well as well. Let's not use other regions' policies to justify disapproval of this policy proposal. Especially

Re: [sig-policy] prop-111-v004: Request-based expansion of IPv6 default allocation size (SECURITY=UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-09-17 Thread Skeeve Stevens
Elvis, Owens position has been quite simply explained. He does NOT oppose the increase in the size of the allocation just just wants it done more cleanly. Deans argument is that this will potentially waste additional space. I see, and actually agree with both positions... I like to

Re: [sig-policy] prop-111-v004: Request-based expansion of IPv6 default allocation size (SECURITY=UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-09-17 Thread Skeeve Stevens
Ok, thinking about this some more, I am still conflicted. There are two schools here... simplicity and conservation. I think worrying about conservation is important. But are we trying to converse needlessly? If we think we will be using v6 in 20 years, I think we are kidding ourselves. With

Re: [sig-policy] prop-111-v004: Request-based expansion of IPv6 default allocation size (SECURITY=UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-09-16 Thread HENDERSON MIKE, MR
+1 Except that I haven't disagreed with Dean on this for as long as Owen has :) Regards Mike From: sig-policy-boun...@lists.apnic.net [mailto:sig-policy-boun...@lists.apnic.net] On Behalf Of Owen DeLong Sent: Wednesday, 17 September 2014 1:02 p.m. To: Masato Yamanishi Cc: