Re: [sig-policy] [Sig-policy] prop-118: No need policy in APNIC region, to be dis cussed at APNIC 44 Policy SIG

Dear Satoru, Thank you for reporting back those views. I will try to clarify where I can. On 8 September 2017 at 09:32, Satoru Tsurumaki wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > > I am Satoru Tsurumaki from Policy Working Group in Japan. > > I would like to share key

Re: [sig-policy] [Sig-policy] prop-118: No need policy in APNIC region, to be dis cussed at APNIC 44 Policy SIG

Dear Adam, On 1 September 2017 at 11:09, Adam Gosling wrote: > Dear David, > > The APNIC Secretariat is reviewing the policy proposals under discussion and > seeks clarification to better understand the intention of prop-118-v001: No > need policy in APNIC region. > > APNIC

Re: [sig-policy] [Sig-policy] prop-118: No need policy in APNIC region, to be dis cussed at APNIC 44 Policy SIG

Dear David, The APNIC Secretariat is reviewing the policy proposals under discussion and seeks clarification to better understand the intention of prop-118-v001: No need policy in APNIC region. APNIC remains neutral and objective about the outcome of this discussion and only requires

Re: [sig-policy] [Sig-policy] prop-118: No need policy in APNIC region, to be dis cussed at APNIC 44 Policy SIG

Hi, On 23 August 2017 at 10:34, Aftab Siddiqui wrote: > Thanks George for the details. > > So this policy is trying to solve the problems which don't exist. > The policy is not trying to fix a "problem", it is trying to simplify things and lighten the administrative

Re: [sig-policy] [Sig-policy] prop-118: No need policy in APNIC region, to be dis cussed at APNIC 44 Policy SIG

Hi, On 23 August 2017 at 14:32, Ernest Tse wrote: > ​Dear All, > > Here is my opinion, > > (1) If the transfer is denied by APNIC, does it mean the IP address will > be wasted on the Internet ? > Yes, if the transfer is denied the address space will remain unused

Re: [sig-policy] [Sig-policy] prop-118: No need policy in APNIC region, to be dis cussed at APNIC 44 Policy SIG

​Dear All, Here is my opinion, (1) If the transfer is denied by APNIC, does it mean the IP address will be wasted on the Internet ? (2) If there are no need policy applied , can it help the un-routed IP address utilization % ? (3) The recipient request transfer does it mean they have

Re: [sig-policy] [Sig-policy] prop-118: No need policy in APNIC region, to be dis cussed at APNIC 44 Policy SIG

Exactly, and I appreciate your respect instead of merely blaming my perusal of data. There are 4-5 responses from APNIC hostmasters for completing a transfer request, with 158 request, which means in total 700-800 emails can be saved for no reason. The aim of the policy is to save unnecessary

Re: [sig-policy] [Sig-policy] prop-118: No need policy in APNIC region, to be dis cussed at APNIC 44 Policy SIG

*Recipient could not demonstrate needs: 1* Everyone is entitled to have their own opinion after reading the data. On Wed, 23 Aug 2017 at 13:04 Lu Heng wrote: > My reads to the data shows exact needs for the policy. > > So don't blame data. > > On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at

Re: [sig-policy] [Sig-policy] prop-118: No need policy in APNIC region, to be dis cussed at APNIC 44 Policy SIG

My reads to the data shows exact needs for the policy. So don't blame data. On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 16:03 Aftab Siddiqui wrote: > >> I don't think George's data can leads your conclusion. >> >> > If the data from APNIC Sec can't help you to make up your mind then

Re: [sig-policy] [Sig-policy] prop-118: No need policy in APNIC region, to be dis cussed at APNIC 44 Policy SIG

> > I don't think George's data can leads your conclusion. > > If the data from APNIC Sec can't help you to make up your mind then there is nothing I can do. The information was good enough for me. > > On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 15:35 Aftab Siddiqui > wrote: > >> Thanks

Re: [sig-policy] [Sig-policy] prop-118: No need policy in APNIC region, to be dis cussed at APNIC 44 Policy SIG

Hi Aftab, Thanks for your patience. I now have more information for you. Total number of IPv4 market transfers that did not get completed in the last 12 months is 97. Below is the breakdown of reasons: Fraud: 4 Recipient could not demonstrate needs: 1

Re: [sig-policy] [Sig-policy] prop-118: No need policy in APNIC region, to be dis cussed at APNIC 44 Policy SIG

Hi Aftab, For 2017, the secretariat has processed 158 market transfers as of 15 August. So, this is roughly about 5 transfer requests a week. On average, it takes about 4-5 responses from APNIC hostmasters to complete a transfer request. We have a procedure to respond to a correspondence

Re: [sig-policy] [Sig-policy] prop-118: No need policy in APNIC region, to be dis cussed at APNIC 44 Policy SIG

icy] [Sig-policy] prop-118: No need policy in APNIC region, > to be dis cussed at APNIC 44 Policy SIG > > Dear SIG members > > The proposal "prop-118: No need policy in APNIC region" was discussed at > APNIC 43 Policy SIG, but did not reach consensus. > > It will

Re: [sig-policy] [Sig-policy] prop-118: No need policy in APNIC region, to be dis cussed at APNIC 44 Policy SIG

: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 2:14 AM To: sig-policy <sig-pol...@apnic.net> Subject: [sig-policy] [Sig-policy] prop-118: No need policy in APNIC region, to be dis cussed at APNIC 44 Policy SIG Dear SIG members The proposal "prop-118: No need policy in APNIC region" was discussed at APN

[sig-policy] [Sig-policy] prop-118: No need policy in APNIC region, to be dis cussed at APNIC 44 Policy SIG

Dear SIG members The proposal "prop-118: No need policy in APNIC region" was discussed at APNIC 43 Policy SIG, but did not reach consensus. It will be presented at the Open Policy Meeting at APNIC 44 which will be held in Taichung, Taiwan on Wednesday and Thursday, 14 & 15 September 2017.