[silk] india's seat at the security council

2008-08-30 Thread Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
many indians today complain about nehru's daffodil-sniffing idealism, and unwise economic policies. he probably was essential to keeping india a democracy, which most of the elite recognise today is a good thing for india; his contemporaries would probably have turned india into a failed

Re: [silk] india's seat at the security council

2008-08-30 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
such extents: he refused to accept a permanent security council seat at the UN for india, when the US offered it in 1953, and suggested that the seat go to china instead. .. and there he shot himself in the foot, more than once (hindi chini bhai bhai suddenly turning into his crying over ae

Re: [silk] Casual Hellos and Food

2008-08-30 Thread Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
On Sat, 2008-08-30 at 07:53 +0530, Bonobashi wrote: ...And I'm glad to report that even today, the hospitality sequence in a traditional Bengali household is water - sweets - tea. That's if you aren't there for a formal meal or such-like big-time stuff. sweets being an even faster way of

Re: [silk] Casual Hellos and Food

2008-08-30 Thread Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
On Sat, 2008-08-30 at 15:09 +0530, Venkat Mangudi wrote: Actually, the great Indian nod is not particularly associated with the south. At least in the US of A. but that's because head-wobbling south indians are overrepresented in the US of A! -r

[silk] curious about whether this is a reasonable article...

2008-08-30 Thread Perry E. Metzger
The following article about economic progress and the Dalits appeared on my doorstep this morning. As an ignorant foreigner, I'm curious about whether it is considered to reasonably reflect reality: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/30/world/asia/30caste.html Perry

Re: [silk] curious about whether this is a reasonable article...

2008-08-30 Thread Rishab Ghosh
i liked it, though as the article noted the dalit writer is perhaps optimistic. still, it's good to be optimistic and the basic premise is correct, that economic advancement and urbanisation is going to reduce caste barriers (and is probably the only effective way to do this). that's been the

Re: [silk] curious about whether this is a reasonable article...

2008-08-30 Thread Amit Varma
I've long argued that urbanisation and economic growth are the best ways to counter caste-based discrimination. (They're no panacea, of course.) People move to cities to reap the benefits of larger economic networks, and it is simply not in their self-interest to discriminate. In my experience,

Re: [silk] india's seat at the security council

2008-08-30 Thread Amit Varma
As for democracy, wasn't there a thread on gii or silklist about how he was responsible for quite a lot of laws abrogating the freedom of the press? Laws that continue to be abused to this day? He wasn't a democrat as much as a wooly headed and utopian socialist - admittedly one with a huge

Re: [silk] curious about whether this is a reasonable article...

2008-08-30 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Rishab Ghosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i liked it, though as the article noted the dalit writer is perhaps optimistic. still, it's good to be optimistic and the basic premise is correct, that economic advancement and urbanisation is going to reduce caste barriers (and is probably the only

Re: [silk] curious about whether this is a reasonable article...

2008-08-30 Thread ss
On Saturday 30 Aug 2008 8:11:08 pm Perry E. Metzger wrote: The following article about economic progress and the Dalits appeared on my doorstep this morning. As an ignorant foreigner, I'm curious about whether it is considered to reasonably reflect reality:

[silk] What is Enlightenment by Immanuel Kant

2008-08-30 Thread divya manian
I am a philosophy newbie and came across this from Two Bits by Christopher M Kelty (it was cited a few months ago on Silk-list for its references to Silk-list). I couldnt resist enjoying what Mr. Kant has written about Immaturity. Here it is in full: IMMANUEL KANT An Answer to the Question: What

Re: [silk] curious about whether this is a reasonable article...

2008-08-30 Thread Bonobashi
Hugely readable as always, Shiv. Could I add a tuppence to this? Quite apart from this view of society within Hindu India, there was until historically recorded times an alternative discourse going on. I think that your observations need to be held next to the Buddhist social view as well, in