Charles Haynes wrote:
I think it's harder than you think - it's a cultural thing, and
cultures don't change so easily.
Agreed. My point is that, people have a culture of getting things done
by others. Since labour costs were/are low in India this condition
prevails even today. And this is
Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote:
If it's just the lack of individual initiative, that doesn't explain how
the same individuals perform elsewhere. Much of this is systemic
If the same individual is performing elsewhere, the cost factor comes to
mind again. If a techie in the US could afford it, they
Folks,
BusinessGyan (www.businessgyan.com) is organizing a panel discussion on
Cloud Computing SAAS on the evening of June 16th. I volunteered to
find out if anybody else could be on the panel assuming someone from
The Google or the yahoo! might be interested in joining me in the
panel to shed
Vinayak Hegde wrote:
I would recommend Coupling[1] - the original UK version (not the US
remake by NBC which was pretty lame)
I have four seasons of the show, if anyone is interested...
Venkat
Ravi Bellur wrote:
I'm am Giselle, the French bitch! Wa-kish!
No, I am Giselle.
No, I am Giselle!
And then the island Lesbos! :-)
Badri Natarajan wrote:
Take it from me that it is not easy and is a vast amount of work - the
simplest and easiest sounding questions can be incredibly hard (and time
consuming) to answer.
If it is hard and time consuming, does it mean that we (or our elected
representatives) agreed to
Badri Natarajan wrote:
I really don't know much about RTI in India, but I suspect that the issues
But you are sure that it is hard and time consuming?
are more around lack of funding and resources on the government and not so
much the provisions of the Act. I mean, just because it is hard
Badri Natarajan wrote:
jail shouting slogans - you'll probably draw enough people to create a mob
quite quickly and you can go in and take him out, along with the last
As opposed to the people from whom we are protecting him by assiging
extremely tight security?
shreds of the rule of law in
Ravi Bellur wrote:
it'll ruin it -- I have no idea what language Jeff speaks in the second
perspective part). The Girl with Two Breasts I think is the name of the
episode. Shadaym!!
Shdaym it is... Awesome episode. Have to watch it tonight before I
sleep. :-)
Ravi Bellur wrote:
perspective part). The Girl with Two Breasts I think is the name of the
episode. Shadaym!!
If women knew what went on here [pointing at his head], they would kill
us on the spot. Men are not people. We are disgustoids in human form
Jeff in coupling, above episode.
Badri Natarajan wrote:
I genuinely don't understand what you mean by this bit.
Apparently, there are people trying to kill him. And not just Indian
extremists.
. wrote:
** iirc, Kejriwal said the IC is empowered to fine the officer 5 bucks
per day beyond the mandatory 30 days. In some cases this has turned
into a 3 year window.
5 bucks per day? No wonder they don't care. I am fairly certain they can
cover the fine and more with the kickbacks they
Mohit (मॊिहत) wrote:
- Mo
(who's seriously evaluating migrating to the moon :p)
Can you please send me an invite when you do? ;-)
But seriously, I came back (most of my friends still think I am nuts)
after refusing green card offers in the US and PR in Singapore. So far,
it has been a good
Udhay Shankar N wrote:
conveniently happens to be a Saturday evening. Anyone up for a drink
with Amit, myself, and whoever else turns up on that evening,
I'm game.
somewhere in the vicinity? We all get to gawk at one of India's most
powerful men [2] as an added bonus!
Right between Sachin
Vinayak Hegde wrote:
I think the electoral rolls were messed up for quite a few people. I know of
4 instances (all hindu if that helps) of names being mangled and names being
deleted amongst my friends. I think it is more to do with improper process
(and incompetent officials) rather than any
. wrote:
she was Male) mentioned, the contractor (given the job of voter ID
cards) must be paid on volume basis as the officials printing and
issuing the card on the spot refused to correct the errors when she
pointed it out on the PC. Maybe its time we used the RTI to find how
the
Kiran K Karthikeyan wrote:
LTTE is a very different form of struggle and organization and it cannot be
I realize it is different. And I wanted to understand further and so we
talked. At the end, it turned out his reasons (if you can call it that) was
something similar to identifying with the
. wrote:
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Ravi Bellur [1]rav...@gmail.com wrote:
veg or non-veg fish bait? :-)
...a veggie fish bait? that reminds me of my Bong friends who still
Reminds me of this restaurant in Teaneck, NJ called Veggie Heaven. None
of my friends believed that the
Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote:
So: what do list members use and recommend? Or should I just get
another Jawbone?
A Jabra JX10 is the best, IMHO. The first one I bought, still around,
served me very well for over three years. Small and handy, it fits in
your pocket. Never had a problem. I also own a
Mohit () wrote:
Oh?! I meant engineers aren't social, are they? Although I can see where you
are going with this :)
I..g..n..o..r..e t..h..eb..a..i..t
Mohit (मॊिहत) wrote:
Ok...I'll desist. It's been a dull day at office...I'm surrounded by 260
engineers 140 lawyers, you know!
Any Mo people there and I woulda thought you were in a prison.
Kiran K Karthikeyan wrote:
provide strategy on self-improvement, rather than just glorifying the
end-product (which fashion magazines do).
When I studied object oriented programming a lng time ago, what
fascinated me was how much common sense sells. Almost all the
self-improvement
Udhay Shankar N wrote:
1130 sounds good - and I would plan for at least 1-2 more people.
I am bringing a friend. He is french, but his accent is not very bad.
V
Kiran K Karthikeyan wrote:
The list so far...
Udhay
Deepa
Ravi Bellur
Dave Kumar (?)
Venkat Mangudi (?)
Kiran Karthikeyan
And I'm guessing its unanimous for FB?
Kiran
Usha and I will be joining if it is on Friday and in FB :-) If we have
a headcount, I can try to arrange a small
Deepa Mohan wrote:
Venkat, I can understand counting the heads, but how do you count the dis?
You have to dis enough people to know how to do that. Fortunately, as a
consultant, I do it quite often. Some of them are inadvertent. :-)
Kiran K Karthikeyan wrote:
How does this weekend look?
Weekends are generally kids time... My kids dont see me enough during
the week... A weekday lunch or dinner would be easier, methinks.
Lunch/Dinner tomorrow?
Venkat
Kiran K Karthikeyan wrote:
OK. So lets say next Friday for dinner?
I'm game...
Sruthi Krishnan wrote:
Hi,
Gmail is turning 5 morrow. Me scouting for people who got a gmail id in
April 2004, when it was 'by invitation only'. :) Ping me at
I got it in August 2004, when it was invitation only. I know some choice
stories that were in vogue when gmail was in by invitation
ss wrote:
to think that is a bad password.
oh, it is.
Taking the bait, if only to see more of your imaginative sequences of
words strung together.
Bonobashi wrote:
I agree that the adjectives used don't apply to you, but I was thinking about
quite another, a gentle, saintly soul who wouldn't harm a fly, and who has,
unfortunately, been treated
Madhu Menon wrote:
IG, could you please try to trim your posts
Ouch!
so as to quote only the relevant parts of the original email (that
you're replying to) instead of quoting entire long threads? Saves us a
lot of scrolling. :)
Madman, methinks a miracle just happened! And you caused it.
Kiran K Karthikeyan wrote:
Venkat, Ravi, and Myself so far. Anybody else?
Someone mentioned dinner on Friday or Saturday, both days are not good
for me. Besides, I prefer the lunch at FB. Can we get a date/time for
the silk meetup?
Ashwin Nanjappa wrote:
What if the person doesn't inform the Mumbai registration office about
his entry in the Bengaluru records? I remember seeing lots of folks
This gives an opportunity for him to vote in Bangalore and Mumbai
everytime. :-) IOW, someone will vote for him if he is not
Bonobashi wrote:
India. This has never been stated in so many words, but the examples speak
for themselves. The individual author responsible also needs to be known and
identified in his political context for the article to make full sense.
Well, it's a nice example to show how anybody
Bonobashi wrote:
Most of the list will be helpful, except for morose, cranky old buzzards and
mailing list fascists who are obsessed with top posting, and who have names
beginning with V and ending with i.
Ahem! ends with a 't', guess you're still smarting from the last time I
sighed. :)
Kiran K Karthikeyan wrote:
I've had a comparable or higher quality meal in Seattle (excluding wine and
tip) for about the same price as a 3 course meal at say Sunny's.
You should try the lunch at FB. Nice variety... Sunny's is overpriced IMO.
Bonobashi wrote:
Sorry for the double post.
That's what happened when being pressurised by tyrannical maintenance
mechanics.
Beep Beep!
Gautam John wrote:
http://englishrussia.com/?p=2367
Well, I am convinced that the menhir delivery man would say These
russians are crazy.
Bonobashi wrote:
I was reading my mail during breakfast, paging up and came across this
unawares.
Paging up? Surely shiv does not top-post!
The costs: Half a cup of coffee, a mouthful of bread with pineapple jam and a
MAC keyboard. This is being written on the desktop; the MAC is stark
Delayed, but not forgotten.
You are invited to view Venkat's photo album: [1]Chennai Trip March
2009
[2][cid:part1.07010909.03040905@venkatmangudi.com]
Chennai Trip March 2009
Ravi Bellur wrote:
So I am very
seriously contemplating getting some remunerative endeavor (like a job) and
spending a prolonged time here.
Welcome.
I like your sense of humor.
You can come work with me if
1. You like Open Source.
2. Do not ask for lots of money.
3. Willing to put up
Bonobashi wrote:
So it has started. Woe is me. Don't say, at the end, that I didn't warn you.
^^^
This is what you wanted to say, I suspect. The other 97 lines were just
for added effect, yes? :-)
Yes, me again. Same guy who said something about the
According to this website [1], India is the lowest spender in the world.
I wonder if that is a good thing, or a bad thing. Pakistan, is the
second lowest.
Venkat
[1]
http://awesome.goodmagazine.com/transparency/014/014-buying-whos-buying-what.html
Zainab Bawa wrote:
of the market. Also, I do not necessarily agree that cooking non-veg gives
foul smell. For that matter, when the neighbours and folks from opposite
building cook sambhar, I get the odour. There are ways of cooking non-veg.
The smell argument is what most people have given
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
What we need is a craigslist for silklist, eh udhay?
And maybe a variant of meetup.com for silklist, to plan silkmeets.
That way the want to rent an apartment, need a laptop power cord, let's
meet at GRT instead of at Benjarong can be forked elsewhere ..
gabin kattukaran wrote:
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Suresh Ramasubramania
i'm 98840 64791
me: 99670 43010 -gabin
99001 80761 not sure where I will be, will know shortly.
Venkat
Vinayak Hegde wrote:
Yes I am. Almost done finalising the details. Expect an announcement
soon in a couple of days.
Venue: IIM Bangalore
Date: 29th March 2009
Just registered for this event.
V
ss wrote:
On Tuesday 10 Mar 2009 3:14:28 pm gabin kattukaran wrote:
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 9:18 AM, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote:
http://blog.wired.com/defense/2009/03/iron-eagle-isra.html
Now I can't get the tune out of my head.
Deepa Mohan wrote:
Yes, Vinayak, we are...at least, I am... waiting for details..meanwhile
Venkat seems to have already registered! Is this a techie event?
Yep, this is a techie event.
[1]http://www.cloudcamp.com/bangalore
References
1. http://www.cloudcamp.com/bangalore
Srini Ramakrishnan wrote:
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Raja vtr...@gmail.com wrote
Almost all are married
*some even divorced* with children (unlike myself) who don't have time
*Some even divorced* Does this seem very unlike India to you? I want
to understand why. IMO, we've just
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
that reminds me. you asked for a meetup right?
Yes, if anyone is interested. Thu evening, perhaps? Wed Fri I will be
in the train.
Venkat
Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan wrote:
I am. Thursday works for me as well. Okay to bring a few other folks along?
I don't see why not. I will probably be staying around the Chennai Trade
Center. I know very little of the city. I will know about the hotel by
morning, hopefully. Somewhere close
Bonobashi wrote:
- Original Message
From: Kiran K Karthikeyan [1]kiran.karthike...@gmail.com
Droll. Quite, quite droll.
:) Well what can I say? A bit of slapstick humour does amuse me once in a while.
As for others with more refined tastes, my sincere apologies.
Kiran
That's
I will be moderating/participating in the panel discussions in OSI Days,
formerly OSI Week, formerly LinuxAsia :-) next week. Meetup on the 12th
evening? Don't know where I will be staying yet, probably close to the
Chennai Trade Center. Hopefully, the LFY chaps put me up in a decent place.
Kiran K Karthikeyan wrote:
Is the D90 $300-400 more? Some question CMOS (D90) superiority over CCD
(D80). Also the D80 has gridlines on demand. I own a video camera. Of course
a burst of video spontaneity will be denied with the D80, if required.
But I'm still listening... :-)
Kiran,
Charles Haynes wrote:
issue. While it's important to address class issues in general, I
think addressing the specific problem at hand requires staying focused
on the
sexism inherent in the attacks.
Venky TV wrote:
should be among the safest people to carry them! All this seems very
similar
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7920260.stm
At least five members of the Sri Lankan cricket team have been injured
in a shooting incident in the Pakistani city of Lahore, a Sri Lankan
minister says.
The incident happened when unidentified gunmen fired on a convoy
carrying Sri Lankan and
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
this. In other words, go out and vote for a secular party.
Guess we'll have to find a new party then. None of them in India are
secular. Everyone pays lip service, nobody really means it.
Kiran K Karthikeyan wrote:
Mutalik and his ilk are a passing phenomenon. He won't be able to carry this
on for too long. And he will quit once he realizes he is not getting any
political mileage out of this. I'm ignoring him, and also refuse to change
the way I live to acquiesce to his
Keith Adam wrote:
A. have moustaches?
B. have shaved them in 2008?
Of those that have kept them, what were your reasons why?
Of those that have shaved them, what were your reasons why?
Happy New Year all!
Happy New Year to you too...
Mustache (abt 20 yrs old) and a Van Dyke (4 yrs
Vinit B wrote:
Here is my official email declaring this as what rot.
Born and bought up here. Of course I'm biased, dammit.
+1
We'll get there eventually, I think.
--Venkat
(who is of the firm opinion that coming back home to Bangalore is better
than living in Seoul, Munich, Singapore,
Deepa Mohan wrote:
one of Mohan's friends in Shillong; he meditates, has given over his
business to his son, walks every day,doesn't watch TV and just skims through
one newspaper and is leading a simple life. I was very impressed by his
calmness, the quality of serenity that I found in
Charles Haynes wrote:
[My first post using the gmail client on my android phone. It appears to
force me to top post and I can't seem to trim. Sigh. Time to submit a bug
report]
Same thing with Gmail on my bberry. Somebody should tell the Product
Managers at Google. ;)
I appreciate your
Eugen Leitl wrote:
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:33:48PM +0530, Venkat Mangudi wrote:
Well, we elected them. We have no choice but to pray that they will do
the right thing. Unfortunately, this is how a democracy works, isn't it?
In for a rude awakening, you are.
One woke up
ashok _ wrote:
Its more practical attempting to provide safe drinking water than have
a security checkpoint to save a shopping mall or teach a policeman how
to swim.
Fair enough. Agreed. But consider this, if all the people who need safe
drinking water are killed by anti social elements or
ss wrote:
On Wednesday 17 Dec 2008 7:34:41 pm Venkat Mangudi wrote:
ashok _ wrote:
Its more practical attempting to provide safe drinking water than have
a security checkpoint to save a shopping mall or teach a policeman how
to swim.
Fair enough. Agreed. But consider
...digeratus means. Googled it today and found this (1) in Merriam
Webster. Is the fellow who wrote in Udhay? Coined 16 years ago? About
the time U took an active interest in all things computing.
Venkat
(1) http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/wftwarch.pl?041808
Deepa Mohan wrote:
*I* was looking at *your* link to find an explanation! :)
Yeah, my link has no useful info either.
You need to make an appointment with the ...er...numerous numerologists
whose boards have sprung up all over Chennai, (btw I live in Blr,
I live in Blr as well. And, I
Welcome to Silk, Sanjeev.
Sanjeev Kumar wrote:
Thanks Udhay for making me part of this and look forward to interacting with
you all on the web and whenever opportunity presents itself ..in person..
We do have silk list meets whenever someone fancies a drink or two. :-)
We also run away
Srini Ramakrishnan wrote:
This whole thread U-turn is very disgusting.
ThisU wholeU threadU UturnU isU veeery disgustingU, swalpa adjustU
maadkoli
Gautam John wrote:
In the Reeves-Bullock movie Speed [1] where a bomb will go off on a
bus if the speed of said bus should drop below 50 MPH there is a scene
where the bus jumps over a break in a bridge [2]. My question is what
speed would the bomb/speedometer register when the bus is
Udhay Shankar N wrote:
In the rich tradition of silken thread drift, I wonder if someone can
explain the special significance of the numbers 108 and 1008 in Tamil
tradition.
Is there a traditional significance? I just thought that it rolled off
the tongue pretty easily that saying
Deepa Mohan wrote:
No, no...as *I* see it, 3 is a mystic number (trinity etc), and so is 9
which is thrice three (all the TVS family members, please note, even today
have car number plates which total up to 9) and 12 times 9 is 108...this is
But why 12 times nine? What is the significance
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
What do you know, Wikipedia has it all. And its not just tamils, the Japanese
and Cambodians have similar traditions (no doubt borrowed from south india
when bodhidhamma went into japan, and the chola and pallava kings were ruling
most of south east asia)
Looks like I might be able to join the FoU with my family (wife and 2
kids, 7 and 4). We will not be coming back to Bangalore, though. Space
for 4 in any car? Else, we might have to take the train assuming that
there will be one that will come to Mysore around the same time. We will
be taking the
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
No shortage of them but maybe a minivan of some sort might be worth
renting
- we can control the music, for starters.
+1 :)
ashok _ wrote:
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 7:23 PM, ss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
especially Brahmins is the deep sense of
duty, integrity (incorruptibility) and immunity to temptation of material
(financial) recompense that Brahminism inculcates.
I presume you are joking ? Are brahmnins
Eugen Leitl wrote:
Solar constant goes way up, Earth surface temperatures average 50+ C.
Oceans vanish, only extremophiles remain. Soon, even they're gone.
So we are the reason that the earth is habitable? I thought the planet
went through cycles of cooling and heating and we are stuck in
Vinayak Hegde wrote:
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Ramakrishna Reddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey Folks
$Subject. Anybody for a silk-list meetup in Bangalore next week. In
Bangalore for FSCK.IN. (Err.. I mean Foss.in). Devdas, Jace, Venky
and Biju might be the usual silkers at the
Ingrid wrote:
BTW, isn't there anyone here who wants to save the planet and/or achieve
world peace when they have the time?
1. I don't think world peace is possible. We are a race that cannot be
at peace with each other. I agree with all the aliens that say this. I
am resigned to the fact
Eugen Leitl wrote:
Without us, the ecology is dead, cooked meat at about +500 megayears,
How so?
Thaths wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Udhay Shankar N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
J. Andrew Rogers wrote, [on 11/18/2008 6:59 AM]:
What's ICMP?
He'll ping you with the answer.
Echo that.
Did that idea just POP into your head?
Can we give it a
Srini Ramakrishnan wrote:
6. Volunteer with a charity or foundation that helps children to read
- time: 6 months-1 year; cost: $$$
Akshara Foundation (www.aksharafoundation.org) might be interested in
your help. Wot Sez, Gautam? Cost need not be $$$.
Venkat
PS: Want to add a legend to
Udhay Shankar N wrote:
Udhay (+wife +daughter)
Thaths
Chandru
Pradeep BV
Kiran
Biju (?)
Venkat Mangudi (?)
If we plan to stop at Bidadi for breakfast, I will probably join you
folks for breakfast. I am scheduled to leave Bangalore on 21st evening
and hence cannot join for the full FoU
Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan wrote:
Present.
When be date? 20/21 Dec?
:( going to Trichy on 21st Dec. Can we decide on the dates quickly please?
V
Sumant Srivathsan wrote:
It also turns out that *The Chronicles Of Narnia* is on books that should
burn in hell. Wasn't it supposed to be heavily allegorical and a
glorification of Christianity?
And I am going to Hell because I am a Linux User.
What's with Hybrid cars being a wrong
Salil Murthy wrote:
My experience has been that there is very little difference between a
second hand set of irons and a brand new set. I bought both my old irons and
my current ones (Taylor Made rac OS) second hand - I only had to get them
regripped and they were as good as new. However, I
Deepa Mohan wrote:
Mysore has a heritage walk too.. a photo walk would be a great idea
there...
Not to forget that the food is also pretty good in and on the way to
Mysore from Bangalore. Yum! Thatte idlis in Bidadi.
--a foodie
ss wrote:
Any silklisters who play golf?
Ulterior motive here. My brother is visiting India in December and I want
some
golfer to select a used hi-quality set of clubs that can be bought and
shipped to my brother ((in the US) to bring back for me.
I have a King Cobra set of irons.
Jude Britto wrote:
Ok, but I hope you understand the implications if you are using it.
I really don't... please enlighten.
ss wrote:
Absolutely right about deciding for oneself. That is why I was taking a shot
in the dark to ferret out crypto-golfers to see if I can bounce off opinions.
I got membership in KGA a year ago and have been playing twice a week since
then at KGA mostly, but occasionally at the ASC
Gautam John wrote:
No pop-ups but this is what I saw:
http://airtel.onspeednx.com/nx/search/?q=jawbonea=1005s=1d=1
Their main page states:
ONSPEEDNX provides ISP's and Network providers with solutions to
monetize user error pages.
Two words...
Use OpenDNS.
Srini Ramakrishnan wrote:
Do you mean electrical power when you say juice? And, how does it pay
for itself, by saved bandwidth?
Cheeni
P.S. I've been planning on flashing my WRT54G for a while now - to run
DNS and other cool stuff
I run Tomato on my WRT54G. I just love this router...
Alok G. Singh wrote:
Srini Ramakrishnan wrote:
I found that it had copied over all my configuration (except port
forwarding) from the old firmware on my GL v1.1.
The one thing I miss in Tomato is VPN. If that were there, this would rock!
Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan wrote:
Photowalk followed by a food walk work for you guys?
Absolutely... I promise that I will make it this time, although I am not
a big fan of Madras.
Rishab Aiyer Ghosh wrote:
1. http://tinyurl.com/700billionhow
http://2parse.com/?p=1192
Martin Senftleben wrote:
sorry to bother you with this. We wanted to make Idli here in Germany,
but didn't take a cooker with us when we left India. Stupid. So I
tried now to get one from a shop in the US, but they charge about six
times the price of the cooker for postage (180 US$). I think
Danese Cooper wrote:
http://xkcd.com/482/
Apparently, Cory is at 1/2 an atmosphere ;-)
I'm jealous that he's in India, and I'm not.
Danese
And...
if I may mention the missing WMDs close to federation sector 001...
Deepa Mohan wrote:
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Amit Varma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2] Vinit told us about his fetish
3] Devdas confessed his fetish
4] Supriya told us about her fetish
In view of the above, you should have written the sentence, The photographs
have been
Rishab Ghosh wrote:
i think it was just a homonym. what group does lalit stereotype? persons with
names beginning with L?
i'm not sure lateef is a particularly common muslim name. just not too many
names that start with 'late'!
As in the 'late' dentarthurdent?
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