Re: [silk] Will India Become the New Vanguard of the Open Source Movement?

2008-01-25 Thread Thaths
On Jan 25, 2008 9:08 PM, Abhijit Menon-Sen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 2008-01-25 20:52:30 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm... it's been a long day, so a question to the list, should I re-read this to see if it makes sense, or should I apply the kook label and move on? I think the first

Re: [silk] Will India Become the New Vanguard of the Open Source Movement?

2008-01-25 Thread Deepa Mohan
artists that I know of. Charles, I would have pointed you at Balan Nambiar, who IS Bangalore-based, but you have already met him! He has continuously evolved in his work and styles in the time that we have known him. And in the realm of photography...I can think of several people who are

Re: [silk] Will India Become the New Vanguard of the Open Source Movement?

2008-01-25 Thread Tee BeeDi
Udhay, Tee Beedi is kind of a like a cafe where people share some lists. I guess when one has time to hang out in there, we do find each others read and marked columns also. Rantings by Tee Beedi are therefore personified. Today there are 37007 messages unread. However a thread of interest often

Re: [silk] Will India Become the New Vanguard of the Open Source Movement?

2008-01-25 Thread Srini Ramakrishnan
On Jan 25, 2008 8:06 PM, Tee BeeDi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Udhay, Tee Beedi is kind of a like a cafe where people share some lists. I guess when one has time to hang out in there, we do find each others read and marked columns also. Rantings by Tee Beedi are therefore personified. Today

Re: [silk] Will India Become the New Vanguard of the Open Source Movement?

2008-01-25 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-01-25 20:52:30 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm... it's been a long day, so a question to the list, should I re-read this to see if it makes sense, or should I apply the kook label and move on? I think the first part means lots of people share a gmail account. I couldn't figure out

Re: [silk] Will India Become the New Vanguard of the Open Source Movement?

2008-01-24 Thread Venkatesh Hariharan
On Jan 23, 2008 12:01 PM, Charles Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 23, 2008 6:02 AM, Rishab Aiyer Ghosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: galleries, afford internet connections, etc. there are a huge number of professional artists in india; they are less likely to live in cities or speak

Re: [silk] Will India Become the New Vanguard of the Open Source Movement?

2008-01-24 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On 25-Jan-08, at 10:53 AM, Venkatesh Hariharan wrote: Charles, I am sending a link to a photo of my friend, artist Ramesh Thorat. I had photographed him against the backdrop of one of his paintings. He lives in Mumbai so he is definitely more than an hour's drive away :-) He is one of the most

Re: [silk] Will India Become the New Vanguard of the Open Source Movement?

2008-01-22 Thread Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 09:39 +0530, Charles Haynes wrote: in the US. In the US many of my friends were artists, either full or part time. Here, I don't see that so much - and I've actively sought out artists here. I can easily see my children going into the arts, but I don't see the same sort

Re: [silk] Will India Become the New Vanguard of the Open Source Movement?

2008-01-22 Thread Abhishek Hazra
there are enough interesting artists in bangalore too. don't know if you are already familiar with the following artist's (below is a random, on the spur of the moment listing) will try and give a more deatiled overview soon 01. Sheela Gowda (a big inspiration for many of us, must see, her

Re: [silk] Will India Become the New Vanguard of the Open Source Movement?

2008-01-22 Thread Charles Haynes
Thanks! About half of those are new to me and have just gone on the must see list. :) -- Charles On Jan 23, 2008 12:19 PM, Abhishek Hazra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there are enough interesting artists in bangalore too. don't know if you are already familiar with the following artist's (below

Re: [silk] Will India Become the New Vanguard of the Open Source Movement?

2008-01-15 Thread Thaths
On Jan 14, 2008 10:36 AM, Tea Beedi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This from Thaths seems to indicate that, as real life intrudes, OS/ fun-work communities recede: is married and thoroughly domesticated these days from what I hear. To be perfectly clear, I was not referring to the subject's

Re: [silk] Will India Become the New Vanguard of the Open Source Movement?

2008-01-15 Thread Tea Beedi
Thanks all for your comments on this; since this subject line has morphed to art/ coooking, I won't press it further. On Jan 14, 2008, at 4:46 AM, Biju Chacko wrote: On Jan 11, 2008 2:01 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then, there's this consistent pressure to earn,

Re: [silk] Will India Become the New Vanguard of the Open Source Movement?

2008-01-15 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On Jan 15, 2008 11:51 PM, Tea Beedi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Protocol query: Hope you won't mind if I quote some of this to other friends having this discussion. shrug Speaking for myself, I don't mind, especially since this is a publicly archived list. What I *do* find interesting, however,

Re: [silk] Will India Become the New Vanguard of the Open Source Movement?

2008-01-14 Thread Venkatesh Hariharan
On Jan 11, 2008 1:46 PM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/india/article.cfm?articleid=4250# Open source is a relatively new concept in India, says Hariharan of the Open Source Foundation /me glares at Venky I guess it all depends on where

Re: [silk] Will India Become the New Vanguard of the Open Source Movement?

2008-01-14 Thread Biju Chacko
On Jan 11, 2008 2:01 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then, there's this consistent pressure to earn, earn, earn .. join Cognizant, get married, have kids, settle down into a comfortable middle class lifestyle - that kind of gets in the way too. I agree. There is also

Re: [silk] Will India Become the New Vanguard of the Open Source Movement?

2008-01-14 Thread Tea Beedi
Hi, I'm a researcher interested in OSS / social dynamics (so this subject line called out to me - other than that my favourite silk discussion so far was the Real Filter Coffee discussion.) ; anyway, I couldn't help noticing the repeated references to the ways in which real life/ family/

Re: [silk] Will India Become the New Vanguard of the Open Source Movement?

2008-01-14 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Tea Beedi [14/01/08 10:36 -0800]: Biju suggests the new style won't work - Why? At FOSS.in last month, this seemed to be the popular model. What foss.in / atul advocate / think, and what is reality, may be entirely different.

Re: [silk] Will India Become the New Vanguard of the Open Source Movement?

2008-01-13 Thread Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
On Fri, 2008-01-11 at 14:01 +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Then, there's this consistent pressure to earn, earn, earn .. join Cognizant, get married, have kids, settle down into a comfortable middle class lifestyle - that kind of gets in the way too. indians aren't the only people in

Re: [silk] Will India Become the New Vanguard of the Open Source Movement?

2008-01-13 Thread Charles Haynes
On Jan 14, 2008 5:54 AM, Rishab Aiyer Ghosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2008-01-11 at 14:01 +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Then, there's this consistent pressure to earn, earn, earn .. join Cognizant, get married, have kids, settle down into a comfortable middle class

Re: [silk] Will India Become the New Vanguard of the Open Source Movement?

2008-01-13 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Charles Haynes wrote: Could the earning pressures also be different? Is there less tendency to measure success solely by how much money you make? Well yes .. and in the US, there's always the option of living in a trailer park and buying food at the local KFC. And you can still own a

Re: [silk] Will India Become the New Vanguard of the Open Source Movement?

2008-01-11 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gautam John wrote: | http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/india/article.cfm?articleid=4250# Open source is a relatively new concept in India, says Hariharan of the Open Source Foundation /me glares at Venky -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version:

Re: [silk] Will India Become the New Vanguard of the Open Source Movement?

2008-01-11 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: Open source is a relatively new concept in India, says Hariharan of the Open Source Foundation /me glares at Venky Let's put it this way. It has been around more or less for ever. But the kind of environment that helped the open source / hacker community to

Re: [silk] Will India Become the New Vanguard of the Open Source Movement?

2008-01-11 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Gautam John wrote: Last month, when Sun Microsystems announced a $1 million grant for innovative open source projects at the Free and Open Source Software conference in Bangalore, it wasn't the sort of news that makes major headlines. Larger amounts have been committed before. IBM, for instance,

Re: [silk] Will India Become the New Vanguard of the Open Source Movement?

2008-01-11 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: | Though, that's the old style of open source. I guess if you hire people and pay them to work on open source, release open source, it just might work far better. Curiously similar to the conversation one was having at

Re: [silk] Will India Become the New Vanguard of the Open Source Movement?

2008-01-11 Thread Venkat Mangudi
Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: Gautam John wrote: | http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/india/article.cfm?articleid=4250# Open source is a relatively new concept in India, says Hariharan of the Open Source Foundation /me glares at Venky I guess I have to agree with Venky Hariharan to a

[silk] Will India Become the New Vanguard of the Open Source Movement?

2008-01-10 Thread Gautam John
Last month, when Sun Microsystems announced a $1 million grant for innovative open source projects at the Free and Open Source Software conference in Bangalore, it wasn't the sort of news that makes major headlines. Larger amounts have been committed before. IBM, for instance, is spending $1.2