Re: [silk] bangalore public transport

2008-02-21 Thread Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
you mean they don't pay legal tax, right? i believe they pay substantial sums in forced bribes to the local cops etc... On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 21:08 +0530, shiv sastry wrote: which the entire pavement is occupied by illegal vendors who do not pay a paisa of tax, but have been there long enough

Re: [silk] bangalore public transport

2008-02-21 Thread ss
On Thursday 21 Feb 2008 6:04:09 pm Rishab Aiyer Ghosh wrote: you mean they don't pay legal tax, right? i believe they pay substantial sums in forced bribes to the local cops etc... In fact I have some experience of what happens because I have local area problems of this sort. Typically the

Re: [silk] bangalore public transport

2008-02-11 Thread va
On Feb 11, 2008 6:38 AM, Devdas Bhagat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BEST drivers do wait for you to board the bus (unless the bus is really ahh... i wish :-) Most times they go 'ting'ting' before stopping at the bus-stop (if its crowded they zoom off). Never allow people to board from the front,

Re: [silk] bangalore public transport - was Re: another intro

2008-02-11 Thread Radhika, Y.
Arabic and Devanagari? i have only ever seen the kannada script(what is it called?) and English. On Feb 10, 2008 10:04 PM, Devdas Bhagat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 01:39:27PM +0530, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan wrote: To an outsider in Mumbai, Bangalore or Hyderabad,

Re: [silk] bangalore public transport

2008-02-11 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2008-02-11 07:53:23 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arabic and Devanagari? i have only ever seen the kannada script(what is it called?) and English. The Kannada script is called Kannada. It's a distant descendant of Brahmi. (But note that Devdas is talking about BEST, i.e. Bombay buses, not

Re: [silk] bangalore public transport

2008-02-10 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On 09-Feb-08, at 1:16 PM, Vinayak Hegde wrote: I miss street-food as well. There used to a place near V V puram which was similar to the Khau-galli (Food Lanes in Marathi) in Mumbai. But it has depleted thanks to high-handedness of the Bangalore police. What do you mean? The place was

Re: [silk] bangalore public transport

2008-02-10 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote: [ on 03:46 PM 2/10/2008 ] I miss street-food as well. There used to a place near V V puram which was similar to the Khau-galli (Food Lanes in Marathi) in Mumbai. But it has depleted thanks to high-handedness of the Bangalore police. What do you mean? The place was

Re: [silk] bangalore public transport

2008-02-10 Thread shiv sastry
On Sunday 10 Feb 2008 5:02 pm, Udhay Shankar N wrote: It's no longer possible to go get something to eat in VV Puram at 1 AM. It used to be. If I may launch off into one of my tangents - this area of VV Puram falls very close to the area covered by the Local residents Association of the area

Re: [silk] bangalore public transport

2008-02-10 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On 10-Feb-08, at 9:08 PM, shiv sastry wrote: The evolution of such businesses in India starts with Just setting it up (Just do it). If uncontrolled we get a Gandhi Bazaar like situation in which the entire pavement is occupied by illegal vendors who do not pay a paisa of tax, but have been

Re: [silk] bangalore public transport

2008-02-10 Thread shiv sastry
On Sunday 10 Feb 2008 9:55 pm, Radhika, Y. wrote: I am not sure what you mean by people cannot walk on the pavements because of these vendors-do the vendors litter, or do they take up a lot of room with their paraphernalia and customers thereby resulting in people not being able to get from

Re: [silk] bangalore public transport

2008-02-10 Thread shiv sastry
On Sunday 10 Feb 2008 10:15 pm, Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote: To which, the resigned pedestrian in me has to ask: what pavement?   Since when did Bangalore start to get pavements as a regular feature   alongside roads? Old Bangalore has plenty of those. Basavanagudi was the first planned area of

Re: [silk] bangalore public transport

2008-02-10 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On 10-Feb-08, at 10:32 PM, shiv sastry wrote: Old Bangalore has plenty of those. Basavanagudi was the first planned area of Bangalore - under the Brits. But many of the extensions that came later lack this simple facility, although the most recently developed ones do. The pavement along

Re: [silk] bangalore public transport

2008-02-10 Thread Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan
On Feb 11, 2008 12:24 AM, Kiran Jonnalagadda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10-Feb-08, at 10:32 PM, shiv sastry wrote: The pavement along your road is indeed one of the finest Bangalore has on offer. I've long been envious of it. The thing that bugs me no end is that despite whatever illusions

Re: [silk] bangalore public transport

2008-02-10 Thread shiv sastry
On Monday 11 Feb 2008 12:24 am, Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote: Either the pavement sits on top of a   gutter and stinks to high heaven, or the gutter is dry but the slabs   so uneven one risks twisting an ankle unless always looking down, or   the pavement is an obstacle course, with trees and bus

Re: [silk] bangalore public transport

2008-02-10 Thread Sajith T S
Venkat Mangudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And your point is? Thread drifts are the most normal thing to happen in Silk, eh? That would be my pointlessness rather -- I'm somewhat new here. Anyone who's been around for over a week can see threads taking their natural course all the time (it's

Re: [silk] bangalore public transport - was Re: another intro

2008-02-10 Thread Devdas Bhagat
On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 01:39:27PM +0530, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan wrote: To an outsider in Mumbai, Bangalore or Hyderabad, taking the bus is very difficult (Numbers in the non-arabic numerals, routes in the local script and all). This is my experience from a few years ago, so it might

Re: [silk] bangalore public transport

2008-02-10 Thread Devdas Bhagat
On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 04:56:53AM +, va wrote: which coupled with the Rail system, few other Indian cities can match 'that' nice a public transport system :) BUT I cant ever imagine a BEST driver waiting for the passenger to board/alight the bus perpetual motion, always. Here, the

Re: [silk] bangalore public transport - was Re: another intro

2008-02-09 Thread Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan
To an outsider in Mumbai, Bangalore or Hyderabad, taking the bus is very difficult (Numbers in the non-arabic numerals, routes in the local script and all). This is my experience from a few years ago, so it might have changed since then. But of all the cities I've taken public transport in,

Re: [silk] bangalore public transport - was Re: another intro

2008-02-09 Thread shiv sastry
On Saturday 09 Feb 2008 12:31 am, Ramjee Swaminathan wrote: On 2/8/08, Vinayak Hegde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I am a bit of a fraud because: Bangalore bus system has good connections, reasonable frequencies, laid back population, chatty passngers etc etc. I am very happy with this as a

Re: [silk] bangalore public transport

2008-02-09 Thread shiv sastry
On Saturday 09 Feb 2008 1:16 pm, Vinayak Hegde wrote: Well one of my grouses with the Bus ssystem is all the boards are in Kannada. Why not have them in dual languages such as Hindi / English. BEST does this well. What??!!! Signs in foreign languages!! Never! shiv

Re: [silk] bangalore public transport

2008-02-09 Thread Madhu Kurup
shiv sastry wrote: On Saturday 09 Feb 2008 1:16 pm, Vinayak Hegde wrote: Well one of my grouses with the Bus ssystem is all the boards are in Kannada. Why not have them in dual languages such as Hindi / English. BEST does this well. What??!!! Signs in foreign languages!! Never! 'em

Re: [silk] bangalore public transport - was Re: another intro

2008-02-09 Thread Ramjee Swaminathan
On 2/9/08, shiv sastry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 09 Feb 2008 12:31 am, Ramjee Swaminathan wrote: On 2/8/08, Vinayak Hegde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great! What a pleasant surprise. :-) I didn't expect to find so many reasonably happy users of the public bus systems, including Shiv's

Re: [silk] bangalore public transport

2008-02-09 Thread Gautam John
On Feb 9, 2008 9:54 PM, Madhu Kurup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [1] Sulthan Bathery :: delightful little town, albeit, the wikipedia article boringly enough calls it Sultan Battery I always thought it had Tippu's artillery battery or some such and hence the name.

Re: [silk] bangalore public transport

2008-02-09 Thread Sajith T S
Gautam John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always thought it had Tippu's artillery battery or some such and hence the name. True, Tippu used a Jain temple to store ammo. Sultan's Battery is the Brit name. Ganapathyvattom, even as Ganapady Watton, was a bit too hard for them. :) Malabar Manual

Re: [silk] bangalore public transport

2008-02-09 Thread Venkat Mangudi
Sajith T S wrote: But the thread drift, ehm... And your point is? Thread drifts are the most normal thing to happen in Silk, eh?

[silk] bangalore public transport - was Re: another intro

2008-02-08 Thread Ramjee Swaminathan
On 2/8/08, Vinayak Hegde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/8/08, Linda L. Julien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip How's the public transportation in Bangalore? snip snip Public transportation is pretty much non-existent in Bangalore. (unless your starting point or destination is Majestic). The

Re: [silk] bangalore public transport - was Re: another intro

2008-02-08 Thread Deepa Mohan
Ramjee...that was an excellent treatise on how to use the Bangalore bus system, thank you. I too have been using buses almost exclusively (green decision!) and though I disagree with you on the time taken...it took me 2 hours to go from my home to Vidhan SoudhaI do agree that the bus services

Re: [silk] bangalore public transport - was Re: another intro

2008-02-08 Thread Radhika, Y.
I love the bangalore bus system. When i traveled everyday for 6 months in 2004 from Padmanabha Nagar to Indra Nagar and took the bus, i felt cleaner, safer and more well-read to boot(reading books or people's faces-either way there is a whole new world to be explored). And it was fantastic seeing

Re: [silk] bangalore public transport

2008-02-08 Thread va
On Feb 8, 2008 7:01 PM, Ramjee Swaminathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/8/08, Vinayak Hegde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice rant, Vinayak! :-) But I completely disagree with the take on the public transport. I too use the bus network a lot (especially when i get frustrated after asking

Re: [silk] bangalore public transport - was Re: another intro

2008-02-08 Thread Vinayak Hegde
On Feb 9, 2008 12:31 AM, Ramjee Swaminathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice rant, Vinayak! :-) But I completely disagree with the take on the public transport. Then we agree to disagree. I was obviously exaggerating a little :-) But public transport in Bangalore works only if you have loads of

Re: [silk] bangalore public transport

2008-02-08 Thread Vinayak Hegde
On Feb 9, 2008 10:26 AM, va [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another nice thing, the front seats are for women (even BEST has 6 seats for women) only, which ensures i dont have to argue or use any kata's on men who think its fine to accidentally brush against or feel up or fall (by mistake of course)