Re: [silk] The Bhansali Stork

2012-04-18 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Vinit Bhansali [18/04/12 11:16 +0530]: Sharing some interesting news based on the SilkMeet from the 13th. For people who were there and wondering why Surabhi disappeared halfway through the evening ... She had just gone into labour! my wife (who gave birth in feb this year) is standing here by

Re: [silk] The Bhansali Stork

2012-04-18 Thread Mahesh Murthy
Sharing some interesting news based on the SilkMeet from the 13th. For people who were there and wondering why Surabhi disappeared halfway through the evening ... She had just gone into labour! Wow. I wuz there!

Re: [silk] The Bhansali Stork

2012-04-18 Thread Mahesh Murthy
So thanks SilkList for having this meet at our place and literally kickstarting our baby's birth! Congratulations to you and Surabhi! By any chance, will you be calling him Resham ? :-)

Re: [silk] The Bhansali Stork

2012-04-18 Thread Deepa Agashe
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.comwrote: So thanks SilkList for having this meet at our place and literally kickstarting our baby's birth! Congratulations to you and Surabhi! By any chance, will you be calling him Resham ? :-) Thanks for hosting us

Re: [silk] The Bhansali Stork

2012-04-18 Thread Vinit Bhansali
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.comwrote: So thanks SilkList for having this meet at our place and literally kickstarting our baby's birth! Congratulations to you and Surabhi! By any chance, will you be calling him Resham ? :-) I did joke with

Re: [silk] The Bhansali Stork

2012-04-18 Thread Deepa Mohan
VIR delighted to know of the arRiVal, Win-It! Obviously, your son is going into law and take silk.

Re: [silk] The Bhansali Stork

2012-04-18 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Aniruddh. That's my son's name. I'd have thought it'd be tough to make a pun out of that but then I managed to read I.Allan Sealy's Hero, A Fable Something about a south indian hero turned politician called Hero, with a secretary called Zero, a heroine U.D.Cologne, vamp Flora Fountain and a

Re: [silk] The Bhansali Stork

2012-04-18 Thread Anil Kumar
On Apr 18, 2012, at 11:16, Vinit Bhansali vi...@bhansalimail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Deepa Mohan apeedna...@gmail.com wrote: I am very happy to tell everyone that Vinit Bhansali and Surabhi Tomar found a baby boy in a bed of rose petals on Sunday, April 15. The

Re: [silk] The Bhansali Stork

2012-04-18 Thread ss
On Wednesday 18 Apr 2012 3:24:13 pm Vinit Bhansali wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.comwrote: So thanks SilkList for having this meet at our place and literally kickstarting our baby's birth! Congratulations to you and Surabhi! By any

Re: [silk] India: global mobility

2012-04-18 Thread Andre Manoel
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote: [0] Interestingly Brazil has some of the same baggage of a vast poor underbelly as India; but it fares vastly better on the visa waiver thing. There's greater segregation of the population there of course, and some

Re: [silk] India: global mobility

2012-04-18 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Let us put it this way. Highly educated is often as high an illegal immigration risk as a mallu plumber or surd taxi driver Many other countries allow visa free entry or transit for people with indian passports and valid aussie, us, uk, schengen etc first world visas. Singapore for example.

Re: [silk] India: global mobility

2012-04-18 Thread Sidin Vadukut
-Original Message- From: Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com (mailto:che...@gmail.com) Sender: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net (mailto:hserus@lists.hserus.net) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 16:46:47 To: silklist@lists.hserus.net (mailto:silklist@lists.hserus.net)

Re: [silk] India: global mobility

2012-04-18 Thread salil tripathi
Globally-mobile Indians also include labourers who go to middle east/SE Asia. Creating a two-tier passport system would concretise class/caste system. If you wear suits, have credit cards, and speak english and work for mncs, one queue; if you look like a construction worker, go to the back of

Re: [silk] India: global mobility

2012-04-18 Thread Thaths
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.comwrote: [1] The ECNR/ECR stamp regime did something similar but to no productive end The EC(N)R stamp meant something at the point of origin, not at the destination. I suspect a vast majority of the countries did not know what

Re: [silk] India: global mobility

2012-04-18 Thread salil tripathi
And ec(n)r prevented school-drop-out artists from travelling, since if you hadn't finished hi school, assumption was that sarkar maibaap would be needed to look after you and decide if you were eligible to travel abroad. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From:

Re: [silk] India: global mobility

2012-04-18 Thread Thaths
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 8:26 AM, salil tripathi sali...@gmail.com wrote: ** Globally-mobile Indians also include labourers who go to middle east/SE Asia. Creating a two-tier passport system would concretise class/caste system. If you wear suits, have credit cards, and speak english and work

Re: [silk] India: global mobility

2012-04-18 Thread Thaths
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 8:29 AM, salil tripathi sali...@gmail.com wrote: ** And ec(n)r prevented school-drop-out artists from travelling, since if you hadn't finished hi school, assumption was that sarkar maibaap would be needed to look after you and decide if you were eligible to travel

Re: [silk] India: global mobility

2012-04-18 Thread salil tripathi
Yep, it was well-intentioned, but it annoyingly restricted individual freedoms. Salil Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Thaths tha...@gmail.com Sender: silklist-bounces+salil61=googlemail@lists.hserus.net Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 08:33:21 To:

Re: [silk] India: global mobility

2012-04-18 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Thaths tha...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 8:29 AM, salil tripathi sali...@gmail.com wrote: And ec(n)r prevented school-drop-out artists from travelling, since if you hadn't finished hi school, assumption was that sarkar maibaap would be needed to

Re: [silk] India: global mobility

2012-04-18 Thread Sidin Vadukut
On Wednesday, 18 April 2012 at 16:33, Thaths wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 8:29 AM, salil tripathi sali...@gmail.com (mailto:sali...@gmail.com) wrote: And ec(n)r prevented school-drop-out artists from travelling, since if you hadn't finished hi school, assumption was that sarkar

Re: [silk] India: global mobility

2012-04-18 Thread Ramakrishnan Sundaram
On 18 April 2012 20:56, salil tripathi sali...@gmail.com wrote: system. If you wear suits, have credit cards, and speak english and work for mncs, one queue; if you look like a construction worker, go to the back of the line. I used to live in the UAE, and had to travel often to Saudi Arabia.

Re: [silk] India: global mobility

2012-04-18 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Riyadh is possibly the worst airport in the middle east - so it is possibly a very good thing you wore that suit --Original Message-- From: Ramakrishnan Sundaram Sender: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net To: silklist@lists.hserus.net ReplyTo: silklist@lists.hserus.net

Re: [silk] India: global mobility

2012-04-18 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:26 PM, salil tripathi sali...@gmail.com wrote: Globally-mobile Indians also include labourers who go to middle east/SE Asia. Creating a two-tier passport system would concretise class/caste system. If you wear suits, have credit cards, and speak english and work for

Re: [silk] India: global mobility

2012-04-18 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Andre Manoel an...@corp.insite.com.br wrote: 2. Also, one thing that I think is very important: Brazilians who show up at an airport in the US or Europe are usually white and don't look that different from, say, an Italian, Spanish or sometimes a German. Many

Re: [silk] India: global mobility

2012-04-18 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Thaths tha...@gmail.com wrote: Sometime in the early 2000's I started noticing that Indian passport holders had become much more sophisticated (laptops, designer clothing, etc.) and the the SE Asian diaspora Indians started appearing to be the less

Re: [silk] India: global mobility

2012-04-18 Thread Vinayak Hegde
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Sidin Vadukut sidin.vadu...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] How much of this boils down to the reputation other countries have of our passport verification and issuing process? I remember talking about this to a Republic of Ireland government investment/tourism of some

Re: [silk] India: global mobility

2012-04-18 Thread Deepak Shenoy
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote: Traveling anywhere today on an Indian passport is guaranteed to be exciting - navigating visa appointments, embassy interviews, credit worthiness tests and other required hurdles will keep anyone from boredom. The

Re: [silk] India: global mobility

2012-04-18 Thread ss
On Wednesday 18 Apr 2012 9:33:10 pm Srini RamaKrishnan wrote: When the world thinks of Brazil it rarely thinks of those with African or Native American blood lines, which seems to help. Would you be able to qualify this statement? The generalization the world is probably errroneous here. As

Re: [silk] India: global mobility

2012-04-18 Thread Ramakrishnan Sundaram
On 18 April 2012 23:23, Deepak Shenoy deepakshe...@gmail.com wrote: apply to all. (Except those with parole violations etc. of course) Does India even have parole to violate? I thought the poor and unconnected are guilty till proven otherwise, and the rich and connected are innocent as you

Re: [silk] India: global mobility

2012-04-18 Thread Deepak Shenoy
On Apr 19, 2012 7:05 AM, Ramakrishnan Sundaram r.sunda...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 April 2012 23:23, Deepak Shenoy deepakshe...@gmail.com wrote: apply to all. (Except those with parole violations etc. of course) Does India even have parole to violate? Good pt, I don't know if the term is

Re: [silk] India: global mobility

2012-04-18 Thread thewall
I'd applied for a passport when I was in school, and didn't have an ECNR stamp, since I wasn't a degree holder at the time. I'd traveled on my passport before, so I got a rude shock when I wasn't allowed to go to the Philippines in 2004. Is the ECNR regime still on? And does it apply even for

Re: [silk] India: global mobility

2012-04-18 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
The ecnr regime is on Kids whose parents are graduates, both have passports etc are eligible for ecnr But if you don't need it it isn't stamped on your passport, only an ecr is stamped -- srs (blackberry) -Original Message- From: thew...@gmail.com Sender:

Re: [silk] India: global mobility

2012-04-18 Thread thewall
Need to check my son's passport. In any case, for travel to the US, Singapore, EU, etc, are people permitted to depart India irrespective of ECNR status? Sent on my BlackBerry® from Vodafone -Original Message- From: Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net Sender:

Re: [silk] India: global mobility

2012-04-18 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Yes - but check away -- srs (blackberry) -Original Message- From: thew...@gmail.com Sender: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 04:58:12 To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Reply-To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] India: global mobility