Re: [silk] As Medical Patents Surge, So Do Lawsuits

2007-07-30 Thread Charles Haynes
On 7/30/07, Srini Ramakrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/30/07, Charles Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/29/07, shiv sastry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 29 Jul 2007 8:30 pm, Venkatesh Hariharan wrote: [...] Patents are intended to increase sharing of knowledge. Indeed,

Re: [silk] Rapture

2007-07-30 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 07:12:24AM +0530, shiv sastry wrote: When I look at definitions of animism, and compare that with what I have been taught as a Hindu, the only conclusion I can reach is that Hinduism is animism - perhaps organized animism. Does that make it religion? Yes.

Re: [silk] 2 Underwear Ads banned in India

2007-07-30 Thread Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 09:13:31AM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: And another one (one of the banned ones) was a woman with a massive cleavage and deeply low cut blouse washing clothes at a riverbank.. and looks like she's having an orgasm every minute that she's washing a pair of

[silk] save energy with blackle

2007-07-30 Thread Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
apparently, Black Google Would Save 750 Megawatt-hours a Year. www.blackle.com

Re: [silk] save energy with blackle

2007-07-30 Thread Srini Ramakrishnan
On 7/30/07, Rishab Aiyer Ghosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: apparently, Black Google Would Save 750 Megawatt-hours a Year. www.blackle.com Old news by now I would have thought. Anyway; this only applies to CRTs where the screen has been maximized. Also, it makes no allowance for usability related

Re: [silk] save energy with blackle

2007-07-30 Thread Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 02:17:57PM +0530, Srini Ramakrishnan wrote: Anyway; this only applies to CRTs where the screen has been maximized. yeah it shouldn't make any difference to LCDs where the lamp is on for black pixels too.

Re: [silk] save energy with blackle

2007-07-30 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 02:17:57PM +0530, Srini Ramakrishnan wrote: Anyway; this only applies to CRTs where the screen has been maximized. Also, it makes no allowance for usability related productivity loss which would be quite significant. Kill standby and wall warts -- a switchable power

Re: [silk] As Medical Patents Surge, So Do Lawsuits

2007-07-30 Thread Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 03:02:49PM +0530, shiv sastry wrote: This is where the controversy about patenting old and well known stuff comes in. there is no controversy - old and well known stuff can't be patented. it gets patented only because overworked patent offices don't find the references

[silk] Apropos Hindu Religious Tolerance

2007-07-30 Thread Charles Haynes
http://blog.shunya.net/shunyas_blog/2007/07/a-prologue-to-t.html Report on historic treatment of Jews in India. -- Charles

Re: [silk] As Medical Patents Surge, So Do Lawsuits

2007-07-30 Thread Lawnun
In addition to Rishab's fine points, I wanted to add that (at least the U.S. patent office) has begun to recognize this. Recently, in conjunction with N.Y. Law School, the office unveiled a program whereby folks can sign up and contribute prior art to relevant patents that are undergoing the

Re: [silk] As Medical Patents Surge, So Do Lawsuits

2007-07-30 Thread shiv sastry
On Monday 30 Jul 2007 3:10 pm, Rishab Aiyer Ghosh wrote: On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 03:02:49PM +0530, shiv sastry wrote: This is where the controversy about patenting old and well known stuff comes in. there is no controversy - old and well known stuff can't be patented. it gets patented only

Re: [silk] As Medical Patents Surge, So Do Lawsuits

2007-07-30 Thread shiv sastry
On Monday 30 Jul 2007 7:47 pm, Lawnun wrote: Patents, unlike trade secrets, also force knowledge to the fore. This is an interesting statement that manages to hide more about knowledge than one might imagine. Thousands of technologies and processes go unpatented, and the results of that

Re: [silk] As Medical Patents Surge, So Do Lawsuits

2007-07-30 Thread Lawnun
This is vaguely reminiscent of Guilty until proven innocent I patent something that already exists and get away with it, and start earning money on my patent from people who don't know it exists. Eventually someone comes along who disputes the patent. He then has to appeal to the same

Re: [silk] As Medical Patents Surge, So Do Lawsuits

2007-07-30 Thread shiv sastry
On Monday 30 Jul 2007 9:45 pm, Lawnun wrote: To take your guilty before proven innocent criminal example a little father, it's equivalent to throwing out a perfectly workable system that happens to have some failings just because some (but by no means most, or even a great many) innocent

Re: [silk] As Medical Patents Surge, So Do Lawsuits

2007-07-30 Thread Lawnun
On 7/30/07, shiv sastry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 30 Jul 2007 7:47 pm, Lawnun wrote: The other question I have is whether patents are given for products or for the product plus the process by which that product is made. For example is it possible to patent a single piece blisk for

Re: [silk] Rapture

2007-07-30 Thread Charles Haynes
On 7/30/07, shiv sastry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I look at definitions of animism, and compare that with what I have been taught as a Hindu, the only conclusion I can reach is that Hinduism is animism - perhaps organized animism. Does that make it religion? Animism is a religion so that

Re: [silk] Rapture

2007-07-30 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Charles Haynes [31/07/07 09:58 +0530]: FWIW it seems to me from admittedly casual observation that while Hinduism might have animistic elements, it clearly has worship of non-animist gods as an important, seemingly primary - even central element. Let us put it this way - hinduism is the sort

Re: [silk] Rapture

2007-07-30 Thread Charles Haynes
On 7/31/07, Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charles Haynes [31/07/07 09:58 +0530]: FWIW it seems to me from admittedly casual observation that while Hinduism might have animistic elements, it clearly has worship of non-animist gods as an important, seemingly primary - even

Re: [silk] Rapture

2007-07-30 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Charles Haynes [31/07/07 10:22 +0530]: That matches my casual observations... but if one assumes that Hinduism is a syncretism of the various indigenous religious beliefs then what does it mean to talk about Hinduism as a thing? Is it useful It probably makes the same kind of logic the