[silk] 10th Anniversary silkmeet

2007-12-09 Thread Udhay Shankar N
The first message on Silklist [1] was sent on 19 December 1997. Next Wednesday, it'll be 10 years since that happened. Many generations in internet time, or even in dog years. Anybody wants to do a meetup where lots of beer is comsumed, and stories are traded? Discuss. Udhay [1]

Re: [silk] Wikipedia

2007-12-09 Thread shiv sastry
On Saturday 08 Dec 2007 6:00 pm, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Yeah - so there's a bunch of bjp / rss right wing kooks editing every article they can find on the Indian freedom struggle and similar topics I have developed a theory, and gamed it to boot, to demonstrate that any owning up or

Re: [silk] Wikipedia

2007-12-09 Thread Thaths
On Dec 9, 2007 8:12 AM, shiv sastry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Owning up to being Hindu is asking to be identified as right wing No, Shiv. Going to a temple, performing a pooja, celebrating diwali with family and friends are all perfectly fine non-right wing ways of practicing Hinduism. It is

Re: [silk] Wikipedia

2007-12-09 Thread shiv sastry
On Sunday 09 Dec 2007 10:06 pm, Thaths wrote: It is when one gooseteps in khakhi shorts down the road, when one claims that the Hindu civilization is 10,000 years old, when one thumps on Herr Hegdewar's books and goes around burning Christian families, etc., one gets identified as right wing.

Re: [silk] Wikipedia

2007-12-09 Thread Thaths
On Dec 9, 2007 4:51 PM, shiv sastry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 09 Dec 2007 10:06 pm, Thaths wrote: It is when one gooseteps in khakhi shorts down the road, when one claims that the Hindu civilization is 10,000 years old, when one thumps on Herr Hegdewar's books and goes around

Re: [silk] Wikipedia

2007-12-09 Thread shiv sastry
On Monday 10 Dec 2007 6:51 am, Thaths wrote: Interesting you should opt out of re-using the gooseteps (sic) in khaki shorts bit. I suspect a vaster majority of right wing kooks do that than any of the other example characteristics I stated. But Thaths that is not a reply to my question.

Re: [silk] Wikipedia

2007-12-09 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
shiv sastry wrote: One of the problems I note with Indian, particularly Hindu society is this Not really. It is a description of a subset of Indian editors active on Wikipedia. Editing characterized by 1. Aggressive nationalism (to the point of claiming that incidents like the Satichaura

Re: [silk] 10th Anniversary silkmeet

2007-12-09 Thread Deepak Misra
count me in Deepak On Dec 9, 2007 8:34 PM, Udhay Shankar N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first message on Silklist [1] was sent on 19 December 1997. Next Wednesday, it'll be 10 years since that happened. Many generations in internet time, or even in dog years. Anybody wants to do a meetup

Re: [silk] Wikipedia

2007-12-09 Thread shiv sastry
OK. The point I would like to make is that the group described below were characterized as BJP/RSS right wing kooks On Monday 10 Dec 2007 7:45 am, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Editing characterized by 1. Aggressive nationalism (to the point of claiming that incidents like the Satichaura

Re: [silk] Wikipedia

2007-12-09 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
If we indulge in group profiling, we cannot expect that the favor will not be ruturned to us. I am an equal opportunity profiler. I think the right wingers on both sides of the spectrum - modi and the brownshorts on one side and the mad mullahs on the other - are reprehensible. So, where

Re: [silk] Wikipedia

2007-12-09 Thread shiv sastry
On Monday 10 Dec 2007 9:08 am, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: So, where does that leave me? Can't say about you personally, but it is possible that you might fall into what I wrote in the first message. I repeat: There is, therefore a tendency among many Hindus to play down their Hindu

Re: [silk] Wikipedia

2007-12-09 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
There is, therefore a tendency among many Hindus to play down their Hindu identity in public and in mixed cultural company, while they remain as Hindu as can be in private. Owning up to being Hindu is asking to be identified as right wing I am not a practicing hindu, in private or in public.

Re: [silk] Wikipedia

2007-12-09 Thread Ramakrishnan Sundaram
Suresh Ramasubramanian said the following on 10/12/2007 07:57: And I am quite open about calling certain hindu godmen (including one silk dressed hippie with a few rape cases against him, Suresh: Remember, we are supposed to respect all religious and sexual preferences. This particular guy

Re: [silk] Wikipedia

2007-12-09 Thread shiv sastry
On Monday 10 Dec 2007 9:27 am, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: I am not a practicing hindu, in private or in public. And I am quite open about calling certain hindu godmen (including one silk dressed hippie with a few rape cases against him, a US embassy advisory that doesn't quite name him, etc

Re: [silk] Wikipedia

2007-12-09 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Remember, we are supposed to respect all religious and sexual preferences. This particular guy has just combined both and also interpreted Shaivism literally. And you have to admit that watching supposedly mature politicians get all ecstatic about being touched by a hand that was in all

[silk] Open Source Evangalism

2007-12-09 Thread Gautam John
I'm currently working with a non-profit and as part of our work we run ~400 libraries across Bangalore and many more across the state. We are hopeful, if we find sponsors, of putting a computer in each library both to manage the library and as a tool for the kids to work/play with. As it stands,

Re: [silk] Open Source Evangalism

2007-12-09 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Does the list have any thoughts on ideas I can use to put forth a persuasive argument for Edubuntu as the OS of choice [1]? If you do put XP in there stick in as many anti spyware, malware, virus etc tools as you can, harden it some. Public library PCs tend to pick up trojans and such at an

Re: [silk] Wikipedia

2007-12-09 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On 10-Dec-07, at 9:43 AM, shiv sastry wrote: In fact many educated Hindus chose this route to avoid being asked to answer uncomfortable questions about Hinduism. Wearing Hindu symbols like a large tilak on one's forehead or admitting to openly practicing Hindu ritual is quite often an

Re: [silk] Open Source Evangalism

2007-12-09 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On 10-Dec-07, at 11:11 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: If you do put XP in there stick in as many anti spyware, malware, virus etc tools as you can, harden it some. Public library PCs tend to pick up trojans and such at an alarming rate In particular, you'll want to use Microsoft

Re: [silk] Dec 12, 13, 14: Technology, Governance, Citizenship meet, Bangalore

2007-12-09 Thread Dinesh, Servelots
Technology, Governance and Citizenship 12th, 13th and 14th December, 2007 Indian Institute of Management, Bangalore Technology is central to new modes of governance, and to emerging definitions of citizenship, participation, and progress. As state functions get automated through e-governance,

Re: [silk] Dec 12, 13, 14: Technology, Governance, Citizenship meet, Bangalore

2007-12-09 Thread Dinesh, Servelots
abhishek, the site is updated. register if you can. hope to see you on the 14th. janastu.org/tgc d On Oct 17, 2007 3:04 PM, Abhishek Hazra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for sharing this. i am interested in day 3 of the conference where the discussion will be on Science and Technology

Re: [silk] Wikipedia

2007-12-09 Thread Srini Ramakrishnan
On Dec 10, 2007 9:43 AM, shiv sastry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] In fact many educated Hindus chose this route to avoid being asked to answer uncomfortable questions about Hinduism. Wearing Hindu symbols like a large tilak on one's forehead or admitting to openly practicing Hindu ritual is

Re: [silk] Wikipedia

2007-12-09 Thread Ramakrishnan Sundaram
shiv sastry said the following on 10/12/2007 08:13: In fact many educated Hindus chose this route to avoid being asked to answer uncomfortable questions about Hinduism. Wearing Hindu symbols like a large tilak on one's forehead or admitting to openly practicing Hindu ritual is quite often

Re: [silk] Open Source Evangalism

2007-12-09 Thread Srini Ramakrishnan
On Dec 10, 2007 12:42 PM, Kiran Jonnalagadda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10-Dec-07, at 11:11 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: If you do put XP in there stick in as many anti spyware, malware, virus etc tools as you can, harden it some. Public library PCs tend to pick up trojans and

Re: [silk] 10th Anniversary silkmeet

2007-12-09 Thread Venky TV
I'm in. Venky, the Second. On Dec 9, 2007 8:34 PM, Udhay Shankar N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first message on Silklist [1] was sent on 19 December 1997. Next Wednesday, it'll be 10 years since that happened. Many generations in internet time, or even in dog years. Anybody wants to do a

Re: [silk] Open Source Evangalism

2007-12-09 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 11:09:45AM +0530, Gautam John wrote: On the other hand, I have been using Ubuntu for a while now and am happy with it and the philosophy behind it. However, it's difficult to translate this into a meaningful argument for a project of this scale. As far as I can tell