Re: [silk] BJP pulling wool over our eyes?
you should become a member of the party started by an online friend of mine in Gujarat. He lost the election recently but his party and ideas survive. He has radical views - but I tend to agree with many of tem and am almost tempted to join the party True, there must be some way to give the govt some feedback. And sitting here on our fleshy butts wont solve it. How about we forcing the govt to setup an online complaint box? Lukhman.
Re: [silk] BJP pulling wool over our eyes?
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 08:10:52AM +0530, ss wrote: I don't care much for European views on islam. They are confused. Europe is Europe is diverse, not confused. A small (and, apparently dwindling) minority is in general for evidence-based methods and against belief-based, and for a strictly secular state. I am one of these weirdos. There are belief-driven people of many persuasions, including tolerant and not-so-tolerant. Some of the claim a leitkultur status which is no longer backed up the reality, or at least, won't be soon. (naturally) a product of its own history and the Crusades were fought in Europe. The winners of the crusades wiped most of Europe clean from islam, but where Islam won, it (mostly) wiped all other religions clean. I believe that Islam and Christianity have a This world ain't big enough for both of us relationship with each other (and other religions) and Europe's views on the hijab are a subtle reflection of that. -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a http://leitl.org __ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE
Re: [silk] BJP pulling wool over our eyes?
You're missing the point completely. It is not that it is wonderful or not. The point is that the laws are against human rights, and if Muslim majority countries have realised this and replacing it with more modern laws, Please be more specific. Which particular laws? (now dont tell me - Wahi yaar Voh BJP waale loag bol rahe the' naa...voh waale) First of all please prove it - that voh waale laws are really against human rights. Next tell me which country has replaced what law. why is it that a majority of Indian Muslims cling to them, which serve only to highlight the differences between the communities. Even if we have one law governing inheritances and marriages and all other things, the muslims will still be muslims and the hindus will be hindus. Nothing will change at all. Lets not get fooled by the BJP propaganda. The differences were there and always will be. The hindus can have their own personal laws and the muslims can have theirs. They want to be considered no different from any other Indian but actively seek to reinforce their differences. The same can be said of any other community. Why paint everything saffron? Let green be green. Then we can have a rainbow country. Any problems. why some countries in Europe are banning (or have banned) the purdah and/or hijab, because it reinforces differences and because it does, it creates stereotypes, increases discrimination etc etc. The job of all these european govts is to govern, to provide better environment for more jobs and better security and surely not to resort to these ridiculous escapades. To tell the people what shoes and scarves to wear or remove. The end result being that the Muslim community takes longer to integrate into the greater whole or doesn't at all. Do the chinese or african or indians or jews or white people who migrate to other countries integrate into those new societies? Why is it, that - it's the muslims who are required to do it all the time? Even before 1952 indian muslims were muslims. Why do you want them to integrate into the greater whole? Let me quote again the same lines here The end result being that the Muslim community takes longer to integrate into the greater whole or doesn't at all. As long as one holds an indian passport he is my fellow countryman. He wears a burkha or a steel drum or a loin cloth is not my concern. He worships himself or some invisible gods or anything is again not my concern. The muslim community need not integrate and the BJP need not differentiate. Just leave them alone. The muslims of india will soon get national ID cards and so will the others. The citizenship cannot be denied. Lets see if we can force the govt to not have a column for *religion* in the national identity card. Lukhman.
Re: [silk] Udhay's going to be arrested on weapons charges :)
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Mahesh Murthymahesh.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Being a bit of a spice monster, I've looked for a while to find sauces etc based on the Bhut Jolokia in India - not the least because it's cultivated in Tezpur, Assam, where I spent 3 years growing up. I didn't find any. Till I visited a mall in Philadelphia last week and found 3 American firms making various sauces based on it (named in the Kick Yore Ass / After Death / etc genre). Bought all three and shall start trying them out this week. If we don't hear from you next week, we will assume the worst :-) If you do survive this gastronomic adventure, do share your experiences. Venky
Re: [silk] Udhay's going to be arrested on weapons charges :)
2009/6/26 Venkatesh Hariharan ven...@gmail.com If we don't hear from you next week, we will assume the worst :-) If you do survive this gastronomic adventure, do share your experiences. I had one earlier this year and streamed tears of joy for the next hour. It was all I could do, for my larynx was thoroughly incapacitated. Then I had another. I'm told I got off light because my chillies had been packed in salt a few days. -- Kiran Jonnalagadda http://jace.zaiki.in/
Re: [silk] Introducing myself: Tom Rielly, Fellowship/Community Director from TED Conferences in New York City
2009/6/25 Venkat Mangudi s...@venkatmangudi.com PS: Why is TED India so darn expensive? Being one who can't afford the ticket, failed to apply for a fellowship, and wouldn't have qualified anyway, I will cheerfully camp in Mysore and expect (a) someone will see me waving like an idiot from the gate and will come out to say hi, and (b) the videos will be public within hours of each talk, so I can figure out who the heck that was who just came out and said hi. -- Kiran Jonnalagadda http://jace.zaiki.in/
[silk] War and Relatedness
This could be an interesting basis for interpreting the Indo-Pak conflict. http://www.nber.org/papers/w15095 War and Relatedness Enrico Spolaore, Romain Wacziarg NBER Working Paper No. 15095 Issued in June 2009 Abstract - We develop a theory of interstate conflict in which the degree of genealogical relatedness between populations has a positive effect on their conflict propensities because more closely related populations, on average, tend to interact more and develop more disputes over sets of common issues. We examine the empirical relationship between the occurrence of interstate conflicts and the degree of relatedness between countries, showing that populations that are genetically closer are more prone to go to war with each other, even after controlling for a wide set of measures of geographic distance and other factors that affect conflict, including measures of trade and democracy. --- Deepak http://deepak.jois.name P.S. - You can read the paper for free if you are in a “ developing country or transition economy”, which includes India. Otherwise mail me offlist and I will send you a copy.
Re: [silk] BJP pulling wool over our eyes?
survive. He has radical views - but I tend to agree with many of them and am almost tempted to join the party http://www.rahulmehta.com/about_mrcm_party.htm The second EN we have proposed is : Collect land rent from all GoI plots such as Management Vastrapur plot, Nehru University plot, Airport plots and give 33% to the Military and deposit 67% to the citizen's bank or post office accounts. And divide the mineral royalties in the same way - 33% to the Military and 67% into the citizens' bank or post office account. He expects the government to pay tax(rent) on the land they own to the people. The govt has no money of its own. It generates revenue by taxing people. To pay the huge amounts in rent the govt will tax the people further. Defies logic. Lukhman
