Re: [silk] The end of the teens

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

Note - if any of you fine folks could do with a road trip I can help organize 
one.  Somewhere where we can take a farmhouse or similar for our exclusive use. 
 Lay in sufficient supplies of everything edible and potable.

On 17/11/17, 12:22 PM, "silklist on behalf of Udhay Shankar N" 
 wrote:

Folks:

Silklist will turn 20 years old on Dec 19, 2017. Any ideas for things to do
to celebrate? :)

​Udhay​

-- 

((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))

Re: [silk] The end of the teens

[Peter Griffin]

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 12:47 PM, Udhay Shankar N  wrote:

>
> ​Or, for that matter, who will do the disbursing.​ To the members, in which
> category I count myself.
>
> ​Udhay​
>
>
This is why you make the big bucks.

Re: [silk] The end of the teens

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

Get together. Eat. Drink. What else? (

On 17/11/17, 12:22 PM, "silklist on behalf of Udhay Shankar N" 
 wrote:

Folks:

Silklist will turn 20 years old on Dec 19, 2017. Any ideas for things to do
to celebrate? :)

​Udhay​

-- 

((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))

Re: [silk] The end of the teens

[Rajesh Mehar]

I propose a "the one thing that I have learnt/become better at/thought
newly about because of Silk list thread."

Or the one memory from being on Silk list thread.

Nothing synchronous can be planned due to varying timezones right?

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017, 12:49 Landon Hurley  wrote:

>
>
> On 16 November 2017 23:14:30 GMT-08:00, Peter Griffin <
> peter.grif...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 12:41 PM, Landon Hurley 
> >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On 16 November 2017 23:09:48 GMT-08:00, Mohit 
> >> wrote:
> >> >On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Peter Griffin
> >> >
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 12:22 PM, Udhay Shankar N
> >
> >> >wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Folks:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Silklist will turn 20 years old on Dec 19, 2017. Any ideas for
> >> >things to
> >> >> do
> >> >> > to celebrate? :)
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> 20 million disbursed to members?
> >> >>
> >> >​
> >> >you mean 20 million each, don't you?
> >> >
> >>
> >> Do we improve the likelihood of gift receipt if we are content with
> >the
> >> first option?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >I left Udhay a loophole by not specifying what currency, Or even that
> >it is
> >currency.
>
> That is true; my default thought when you said it was that we should have
> an amount proportional to the value it adds to our lives. Of course, Udhay
> could always simply place it in a trust for the future posterity of the
> list.
>
>
> --
> Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.
>
>

Re: [silk] The end of the teens

[Landon Hurley]

On 16 November 2017 23:14:30 GMT-08:00, Peter Griffin  
wrote:
>On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 12:41 PM, Landon Hurley 
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 16 November 2017 23:09:48 GMT-08:00, Mohit 
>> wrote:
>> >On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Peter Griffin
>> >
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 12:22 PM, Udhay Shankar N
>
>> >wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Folks:
>> >> >
>> >> > Silklist will turn 20 years old on Dec 19, 2017. Any ideas for
>> >things to
>> >> do
>> >> > to celebrate? :)
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> 20 million disbursed to members?
>> >>
>> >​
>> >you mean 20 million each, don't you?
>> >
>>
>> Do we improve the likelihood of gift receipt if we are content with
>the
>> first option?
>>
>>
>
>
>I left Udhay a loophole by not specifying what currency, Or even that
>it is
>currency.

That is true; my default thought when you said it was that we should have an 
amount proportional to the value it adds to our lives. Of course, Udhay could 
always simply place it in a trust for the future posterity of the list.


-- 
Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.

Re: [silk] The end of the teens

[Mohit]

 On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 12:44 PM, Peter Griffin 
wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 12:41 PM, Landon Hurley 
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On 16 November 2017 23:09:48 GMT-08:00, Mohit 
> > wrote:
> > >On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Peter Griffin
> > >
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 12:22 PM, Udhay Shankar N 
> > >wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Folks:
> > >> >
> > >> > Silklist will turn 20 years old on Dec 19, 2017. Any ideas for
> > >things to
> > >> do
> > >> > to celebrate? :)
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> 20 million disbursed to members?
> > >>
> > >​
> > >you mean 20 million each, don't you?
> > >
> >
> > Do we improve the likelihood of gift receipt if we are content with the
> > first option?
> >
> >
>
>
> I left Udhay a loophole by not specifying what currency, Or even that it is
> currency.
>
​
20 million BOOKS??? Wow!!!

Re: [silk] The end of the teens

[Udhay Shankar N]

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 12:44 PM, Peter Griffin 
wrote:

I left Udhay a loophole by not specifying what currency, Or even that it is
> currency.
>

​Or, for that matter, who will do the disbursing.​ To the members, in which
category I count myself.

​Udhay​

-- 

((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))

Re: [silk] The end of the teens

[Peter Griffin]

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 12:41 PM, Landon Hurley  wrote:

>
>
> On 16 November 2017 23:09:48 GMT-08:00, Mohit 
> wrote:
> >On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Peter Griffin
> >
> >wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 12:22 PM, Udhay Shankar N 
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> > Folks:
> >> >
> >> > Silklist will turn 20 years old on Dec 19, 2017. Any ideas for
> >things to
> >> do
> >> > to celebrate? :)
> >> >
> >>
> >> 20 million disbursed to members?
> >>
> >​
> >you mean 20 million each, don't you?
> >
>
> Do we improve the likelihood of gift receipt if we are content with the
> first option?
>
>


I left Udhay a loophole by not specifying what currency, Or even that it is
currency.

Re: [silk] The end of the teens

[Landon Hurley]

On 16 November 2017 23:09:48 GMT-08:00, Mohit  wrote:
>On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Peter Griffin
>
>wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 12:22 PM, Udhay Shankar N 
>wrote:
>>
>> > Folks:
>> >
>> > Silklist will turn 20 years old on Dec 19, 2017. Any ideas for
>things to
>> do
>> > to celebrate? :)
>> >
>>
>> 20 million disbursed to members?
>>
>​
>you mean 20 million each, don't you?
>

Do we improve the likelihood of gift receipt if we are content with the first 
option? 



>Regards,
>Mohit
>
>​

-- 
Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.

Re: [silk] The end of the teens

[Mohit]

 On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Peter Griffin 
wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 12:22 PM, Udhay Shankar N  wrote:
>
> > Folks:
> >
> > Silklist will turn 20 years old on Dec 19, 2017. Any ideas for things to
> do
> > to celebrate? :)
> >
>
> 20 million disbursed to members?
>
​
you mean 20 million each, don't you?

Regards,
Mohit

​

Re: [silk] The end of the teens

[Peter Griffin]

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 12:22 PM, Udhay Shankar N  wrote:

> Folks:
>
> Silklist will turn 20 years old on Dec 19, 2017. Any ideas for things to do
> to celebrate? :)
>

20 million disbursed to members?

Re: [silk] Reintroducing myself

[Bharath Chari]

On 11/17/2017 08:51 AM, Udhay Shankar N wrote:

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Bharath Chari  wrote:



Delurking to prove your point. I'm the definition of the active lurker.
I'm member No.1 of silklist, and have posted around 10 messages in the past
5 years. But have read every single message for the past 20 years. :)


​
You also posted the very first message on silk. :)​

​
Yes, but not according to the history books - Shiv's message registers 
as the first one, courtesy his computer clock being off by quite a bit. :)


Bharath

[silk] The end of the teens

[Udhay Shankar N]

Folks:

Silklist will turn 20 years old on Dec 19, 2017. Any ideas for things to do
to celebrate? :)

​Udhay​

-- 

((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))

Re: [silk] Reintroducing myself

[Udhay Shankar N]

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Bharath Chari  wrote:


> Delurking to prove your point. I'm the definition of the active lurker.
> I'm member No.1 of silklist, and have posted around 10 messages in the past
> 5 years. But have read every single message for the past 20 years. :)
>
​
You also posted the very first message on silk. :)​

​Udhay​

-- 

((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))

Re: [silk] Reintroducing myself

[Bharath Chari]

On 11/17/2017 04:26 AM, Rajesh Mehar wrote:

Out of curiosity: What is the difference
between active and passive lurking?

In my mind,

active lurking is reading the post and enjoying the discussion but
consciously (for whatever motive) not responding.


Delurking to prove your point. I'm the definition of the active lurker. 
I'm member No.1 of silklist, and have posted around 10 messages in the 
past 5 years. But have read every single message for the past 20 years. :)


Bharath

Re: [silk] Reintroducing myself

[Ashwin Nanjappa]

De-lurking a bit ...

We met in Singapore a long time ago at a dinner Meetup. Welcome back Nadika
☺

On Nov 16, 2017 19:34, "Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan" <
chandrachoo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello.
>
> Let me see, it's been 10 years on the list. After initial enthusiasm in
> responding to all messages, I lurked, first actively and then passively.
> And now occasionally read a thread or two till the first point of drift.
>
> Things outside were happening.
>
> Today I got added to a Whatsapp group which reminded me of Silk again. It
> helped that about 95% of the group members are silklisters.
>
> And then I saw Udhay's thread about changing one's opinion and the other
> one about optimising priorities.
>
> So.
>
> Re introductions.
> Some of you may have known me as Chandrachoodan. Or as Ravages.
>
> I've since changed. A lot.
> After years of trying to figure it out, and worrying about family, friends,
> etc., I began to transition. Socially, medically, and internet-ly.
>
> I am still afraid of family's reaction. I am still worried about what
> friends will say. But since 2014 I have learnt that the number of people
> who don't give a fuck who I am, one way or other, far outnumber the number
> of people who do give a fuck. Which is cool.
>
>
> Some of you have known me after transition.
>
> For the others,
> I am Nadika.
>

Re: [silk] Reintroducing myself

[Rakesh Raghunathan]

Hey Nadhika,

Lovely to connect after a longtime :) so glad you reached out.

Cheers,

Rakesh

On 16 Nov 2017 5:05 pm, "Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan" <
chandrachoo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello.
>
> Let me see, it's been 10 years on the list. After initial enthusiasm in
> responding to all messages, I lurked, first actively and then passively.
> And now occasionally read a thread or two till the first point of drift.
>
> Things outside were happening.
>
> Today I got added to a Whatsapp group which reminded me of Silk again. It
> helped that about 95% of the group members are silklisters.
>
> And then I saw Udhay's thread about changing one's opinion and the other
> one about optimising priorities.
>
> So.
>
> Re introductions.
> Some of you may have known me as Chandrachoodan. Or as Ravages.
>
> I've since changed. A lot.
> After years of trying to figure it out, and worrying about family, friends,
> etc., I began to transition. Socially, medically, and internet-ly.
>
> I am still afraid of family's reaction. I am still worried about what
> friends will say. But since 2014 I have learnt that the number of people
> who don't give a fuck who I am, one way or other, far outnumber the number
> of people who do give a fuck. Which is cool.
>
>
> Some of you have known me after transition.
>
> For the others,
> I am Nadika.
>

Re: [silk] Reintroducing myself

[Rajesh Mehar]

> Out of curiosity: What is the difference
> between active and passive lurking?

In my mind,

active lurking is reading the post and enjoying the discussion but
consciously (for whatever motive) not responding.

And passive lurking is mostly not reading the post and discussions but not
LEAVING the list or redirecting to a folder where it's it of view.

I've gone through both phases with Silk. Sometimes I'm in a phase of
solitude, where my intention is to listen and learn rather than talk and
teach. I actively lurk during phases like this.

Sometimes I've got something big in my life which needs all of my
mindspace, and in such phases processing an interesting idea or discussion
is actually a hindrance, and I will passively lurk through such phases.


On Fri, Nov 17, 2017, 07:49 Udhay Shankar N  wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan <
> chandrachoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Let me see, it's been 10 years on the list. After initial enthusiasm in
> > responding to all messages, I lurked, first actively and then passively.
> >
>
> ​Out of curiosity: What is the difference between active and passive
> lurking?​
>
> ​Udhay​
>
> --
>
> ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
>

Re: [silk] Reintroducing myself

[Udhay Shankar N]

On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan <
chandrachoo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Let me see, it's been 10 years on the list. After initial enthusiasm in
> responding to all messages, I lurked, first actively and then passively.
>

​Out of curiosity: What is the difference between active and passive
lurking?​

​Udhay​

-- 

((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))

Re: [silk] Reintroducing myself

[Peter Griffin]

On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan <
chandrachoo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello.
>
> Let me see, it's been 10 years on the list. After initial enthusiasm in
> responding to all messages, I lurked, first actively and then passively.
> And now occasionally read a thread or two till the first point of drift.
>
> Things outside were happening.
>
> Today I got added to a Whatsapp group which reminded me of Silk again. It
> helped that about 95% of the group members are silklisters.
>
> And then I saw Udhay's thread about changing one's opinion and the other
> one about optimising priorities.
>
> So.
>
> Re introductions.
> Some of you may have known me as Chandrachoodan. Or as Ravages.
>
> I've since changed. A lot.
> After years of trying to figure it out, and worrying about family, friends,
> etc., I began to transition. Socially, medically, and internet-ly.
>
> I am still afraid of family's reaction. I am still worried about what
> friends will say. But since 2014 I have learnt that the number of people
> who don't give a fuck who I am, one way or other, far outnumber the number
> of people who do give a fuck. Which is cool.
>
>
> Some of you have known me after transition.
>
> For the others,
> I am Nadika.
>

As one of the army of people who do give a fuck --- i.e., who are happy to
see you happy --- re-welcome, old friend.

Re: [silk] Reintroducing myself

[Radhika, Y.]

​Really lovely note, Nadika. Happy to connect.​

​Radhika​

Re: [silk] When was the last time you changed your opinion on something?

[Radhika, Y.]

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 6:11 PM, Thaths  wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 9:01 AM Radhika, Y.  wrote:
>
> > The most important thing I changed my mind about won't change the world
> but
> > it may change my relationship with it. I used to think that I was good
> with
> > children. Hell, no, I just want to be a child.
> >
>
> If you are up for it, could you share more?
>

​R: Almost every thing that I want to do with my son are things that I want
to do better  or overi.e. things left behind in childhood or neglected
because I did not touch them deeply enough. Almost none of that interests
my son and if he obeys, and it is obedience rather than interest, it is to
please me.  ​What interests him are ice hockey, making the bus sound while
riding on local buses, sweets, LEGO and parents who persuade with a bribe
or two rather than an obstinate authoritarian parent. Ergo, I gave it up
and what a relief, it is!

>
>
> > ON other things I changed my mind about:
> > - being Indian I had to be interested in all things Indian (exhausting)
> >
>
> I apologize, but I can't parse that. Are you saying that being an India you
> used to think that you had to be interested in all things India, and you
> have changed your mind about this (i.e., no longer being interested in
> EVERYTHING Indian, but picking and choosing)?
>
> Thaths
> ​A: Yep, Living outside India unfortunately, I engaged in exhausting,
> identity reinforcing behaviour. I am the only member of my family in Canada
> and solitude is here to stay. For example, if I had lived in India and was
> interested in Flamenco, I would never have worried about losing identity or
> not transmitting it. Nothing like having a kid to shine a light on that
> behaviour. So, I have finally let go of being Indian, not being Indian
> enough, not speaking Telegu well, not going to the temple, not taking my
> son to the temple, not reading out to him every Indian book I ever read,
> etc and am happily dancing, singing lovely poems by Borges, listening to
> flamenco music, watching Spanish film and generally allowing a happy
> obsession to take over. YAYAYA! Krishna, samarpayami!
>
>

Re: [silk] Reintroducing myself

[Thaths]

>
> Some of you have known me after transition.
>
> For the others,
> I am Nadika.
>


Nice to  meet you again, Nadika! Welcome back to Silklist.

Thaths

Re: [silk] Reintroducing myself

[Rajesh Mehar]

Hi again Nadika,

Look forward to reading your thoughts here too. :-)


>
>

Re: [silk] Reintroducing myself

[Venkatesh H R]

Nadika, I'm one of the newer members at about a year old. Nice to meet you
:-)

On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Harnidh Kaur  wrote:

> Hi N,
>
> I’ve always known you are that person whose presence warms me up when I see
> your name on Twitter. I didn’t know you were on Silk! Good to see you here.
>
> On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 at 5:05 PM, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan <
> chandrachoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello.
> >
> > Let me see, it's been 10 years on the list. After initial enthusiasm in
> > responding to all messages, I lurked, first actively and then passively.
> > And now occasionally read a thread or two till the first point of drift.
> >
> > Things outside were happening.
> >
> > Today I got added to a Whatsapp group which reminded me of Silk again. It
> > helped that about 95% of the group members are silklisters.
> >
> > And then I saw Udhay's thread about changing one's opinion and the other
> > one about optimising priorities.
> >
> > So.
> >
> > Re introductions.
> > Some of you may have known me as Chandrachoodan. Or as Ravages.
> >
> > I've since changed. A lot.
> > After years of trying to figure it out, and worrying about family,
> friends,
> > etc., I began to transition. Socially, medically, and internet-ly.
> >
> > I am still afraid of family's reaction. I am still worried about what
> > friends will say. But since 2014 I have learnt that the number of people
> > who don't give a fuck who I am, one way or other, far outnumber the
> number
> > of people who do give a fuck. Which is cool.
> >
> >
> > Some of you have known me after transition.
> >
> > For the others,
> > I am Nadika.
> >
> --
> Regards
>
> Harnidh Kaur
> Lady Shri Ram College for Women '15
> St. Xavier's College, Mumbai '17
> Foreverawkwardandlearning.wordpress.com
> 
> +91-7718951383
>



-- 
H R Venkatesh
ICFJ Knight Fellow
Founder, NetaData 
Co-organiser, Hacks/Hackers New Delhi
Ph: +91 9811824503
Twitter: @hrvenkatesh

Re: [silk] Reintroducing myself

[Harnidh Kaur]

Hi N,

I’ve always known you are that person whose presence warms me up when I see
your name on Twitter. I didn’t know you were on Silk! Good to see you here.

On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 at 5:05 PM, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan <
chandrachoo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello.
>
> Let me see, it's been 10 years on the list. After initial enthusiasm in
> responding to all messages, I lurked, first actively and then passively.
> And now occasionally read a thread or two till the first point of drift.
>
> Things outside were happening.
>
> Today I got added to a Whatsapp group which reminded me of Silk again. It
> helped that about 95% of the group members are silklisters.
>
> And then I saw Udhay's thread about changing one's opinion and the other
> one about optimising priorities.
>
> So.
>
> Re introductions.
> Some of you may have known me as Chandrachoodan. Or as Ravages.
>
> I've since changed. A lot.
> After years of trying to figure it out, and worrying about family, friends,
> etc., I began to transition. Socially, medically, and internet-ly.
>
> I am still afraid of family's reaction. I am still worried about what
> friends will say. But since 2014 I have learnt that the number of people
> who don't give a fuck who I am, one way or other, far outnumber the number
> of people who do give a fuck. Which is cool.
>
>
> Some of you have known me after transition.
>
> For the others,
> I am Nadika.
>
-- 
Regards

Harnidh Kaur
Lady Shri Ram College for Women '15
St. Xavier's College, Mumbai '17
Foreverawkwardandlearning.wordpress.com

+91-7718951383

Re: [silk] Reintroducing myself

[Ashwin Kumar]

What do you care, what other people think? - Arline Feynman

Welcome back N

~ashwin

~ashwin

From: silklist  on behalf of 
Udhay Shankar N 
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 5:11:49 PM
To: Silk List
Subject: Re: [silk] Reintroducing myself

​Welcome, again, N. Feel free to share as much or as little as you like.

Udhay​

Re: [silk] Reintroducing myself

[Udhay Shankar N]

​Welcome, again, N. Feel free to share as much or as little as you like.

Udhay​

[silk] Reintroducing myself

[Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan]

Hello.

Let me see, it's been 10 years on the list. After initial enthusiasm in
responding to all messages, I lurked, first actively and then passively.
And now occasionally read a thread or two till the first point of drift.

Things outside were happening.

Today I got added to a Whatsapp group which reminded me of Silk again. It
helped that about 95% of the group members are silklisters.

And then I saw Udhay's thread about changing one's opinion and the other
one about optimising priorities.

So.

Re introductions.
Some of you may have known me as Chandrachoodan. Or as Ravages.

I've since changed. A lot.
After years of trying to figure it out, and worrying about family, friends,
etc., I began to transition. Socially, medically, and internet-ly.

I am still afraid of family's reaction. I am still worried about what
friends will say. But since 2014 I have learnt that the number of people
who don't give a fuck who I am, one way or other, far outnumber the number
of people who do give a fuck. Which is cool.


Some of you have known me after transition.

For the others,
I am Nadika.