Hi Karen,
My husband has one gallon of CS per day. He is a chronic MS sufferer.
I have only good reports to pass on.
I have read where argyria only presents itself where there is a deficiency
in
selenium and vitamin E. For a safeguard, I include these supplements in his
diet.
Jason, can
Isn't silver hydroxide white?
Ode
Conclusions
~~~
Silver ions released from the anode quickly reached the nearby
cathode.
Silver hydroxide formed in the Nernst Diffusion layer next to the
cathode:
Ag(+) + OH(-) -- AgOH
Some of the particles stuck to the
The idea that ionic silver can cause argyria comes from slurring
distinctions between our definition of ionic with 'all' definitions of
ionic...substituting 'intent of meaning' within OUR context of conversation
with technicalities from another.
Silver Citrate etc is technically ionic when
Doses of ground silver dust where administered to dogs via inhalation.
Elimination was 94% in 48 hours in the feces and urine.
[Morrow 1967 or thereabouts]
Tell ya something?
Be not afraid.
Ode
At 07:52 PM 3/25/2005 -0700, you wrote:
What surface?
sol
WARNING: DO NOT USE THE NEBULIZER
Tests were done by Frank with an ion selective probe. He found no ions of
silver.
If he also tested for silver as a metallic particle or the presence of
silver in any other form, I don't know and he didn't say.
That in itself is a bit of a strange ommission.
Ode
5. what tests were done to
Hi listers,
I came across this today
http://frontpage.wave.co.nz/~davidc/colloidal_silver_ppm_meter.html
( because the silverlist emails go to my junk folder, you may have to cut
and paste this address.)
According to the info ... it measures ppm, not just the water.
What do you think?
To put agryia in perspective;
Phalen and Morrow study determined that inhaled silver dust does make it
through the blood stream and out for the most part in 48 hours.
Silver mine and refinery workers who inhale silver dust all day 5 days a
week have an agyria rate of about one in two thousand
To put agryia in perspective;
Phalen and Morrow study determined that inhaled silver dust does make it
through the blood stream and out for the most part in 48 hours.
Silver mine and refinery workers who inhale silver dust all day 5 days a
week have an agyria rate of about one in two thousand
To put agryia in perspective;
Phalen and Morrow study determined that inhaled silver dust does make it
through the blood stream and out for the most part in 48 hours.
Silver mine and refinery workers who inhale silver dust all day 5 days a
week have an agyria rate of about one in two thousand
To put agryia in perspective;
Phalen and Morrow study determined that inhaled silver dust does make it
through the blood stream and out for the most part in 48 hours.
Silver mine and refinery workers who inhale silver dust all day 5 days a
week have an agyria rate of about one in two thousand
To put agryia in perspective;
Phalen and Morrow study determined that inhaled silver dust does make it
through the blood stream and out for the most part in 48 hours.
Silver mine and refinery workers who inhale silver dust all day 5 days a
week have an agyria rate of about one in two thousand
Hi folks,
Just to reassure you, it's not your Television, we really *are* in the
Twilight Zone! grin
There've been a few irregularities in the list server for the last few
days. A few individuals are finding that their posts are being rejected
for no good reason, as they're fully subscribed
To put agryia in perspective;
Phalen and Morrow study determined that inhaled silver dust does make it
through the blood stream and out for the most part in 48 hours.
Silver mine and refinery workers who inhale silver dust all day 5 days a
week have an agyria rate of about one in two thousand
Alltel mail admin apparently is off its rocker.
Ode
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Ernie,
Has your sister tried the CS H202 protocol?
elle
From: Yogiboy epa...@sympatico.ca
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSCS MS
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:34:22 -0500
Hi Nina,
Would you be able to elaborate on this?
My sister has MS and she's been
On 25 Mar 2005 at 23:22, M. G. Devour wrote about :
Subject : CSLooking back...
Hi Gang,
Looking through my off-list correspondence with Cliff Hume, I realized
that he's been around since at least 1998. He may be one of the
original members who were here when I took over.
I know many of
Two people that I know, both women, have reported a queasy feeling in the
stomach after taking small to moderate amounts of MSM.
-Original Message-
From: Tel Tofflemire [mailto:telt...@cableone.net]
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 11:48 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMSM
Thanks Tel,
For this address and all the other excellent info you share with us
seekers!
Sincerely,
___
Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist
448 West Juniata Street
Clermont, FL 34711
www.rharrisinc.com
http://www.seasilver.com/reh
Test
Dear Mike,
I don't know how long I've been aboard, but I've treasured this wonderful
Site under your expert leadership--I admire the diplomatic way you help us
reappraise any inadvertent violations we might innocently make and we
appreciate the deserved correction and your prompt forgiveness. As I
Hi Mike,
I've been around since April, 1999. Not a record but a pretty good average.
Best regards,
Trem
www.silvergen.com
- Original Message -
From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 8:22 PM
Subject: CSLooking back...
Hi
My question is: Do these ppm meters measure both
colloidal (particulate) and also ionic silver content?
I had a sample of some silver tested once by Bob
Berger, who reported 12.3 ppm. I had the same CS
tested by a local laboratory that is paid to do
industrial testing, and they found it to be 5
Hi Folks,
I have been trying to figure out what is causing your kid's skin peeling. I
saw deb's post to you regarding kefir and thought I would chime in here, as
it makes total sense. Vitamin A, D, K, calcium, magnesium. I normally sell
the kefir I make throughout the U.S., but in this case,
Hi Elle Robrts I have MS I was wondering how long your husband has been on a
Gallon day, how many ppm of CS, and how is it working. Debb Bos
bosp...@shaw.ca.
- Original Message -
From: elle roberts elle_robe...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 4:56
Re: CSbasic dumb question
From: Ode Coyote
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 05:28:31
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m78900.html
Isn't silver hydroxide white?
Ode
You might be thinking of silver chloride, AgCl, which is white but
turns black when exposed to light.
The oxide that
Hi Elle:
My personal opinion is that quality home-brewed CS, at a range of 5-15 PPM,
will not cause argyria regardless of dosage levels. That said, I always
inform those I co-research with the known threshold levels, established by
research into silver compounds. I trust that people, when given
CSppm meters
From: Terry Chamberlin
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 08:28:00
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m78919.html
My question is: Do these ppm meters measure both colloidal
(particulate) and also ionic silver content?
I had a sample of some silver tested once by Bob
I get many calls from prospective customers mentioning that they have been
to Frank's site and wonder what the facts are. So, yesterday I placed this
page
on our site to answer their questions by referring them to some information
not tainted by my opinion.
Welcome aboard, Margaret.
I happen to agree with your first impression. It's a pretty useful
group of folks we have here.
When you're ready, and even if you're not, please ask any questions
that seem to be impairing your progress.
Be well,
Mike D.
da list owner guy
Greetings all on list ,
Trem,
Great article with good, informative links. I had already checked out
the Natural Immunogenics site due to the recent discussion of the
Sovereign Silver, but am glad to see that you referenced it and it's
study again for others.
I can say, again, that as a long time user of my own homemade
Re: CSSilver-Colloids responds
From: Ode Coyote
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 05:32:15
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m78903.html
Mike Monett wrote:
5. what tests were done to detect silver in the blood?
That is a good question. Anyone know where these tests were run?
Were they
Greetings Frank,
You write:
What Quinto and Trem fail to address is the fact that no medical
researcher anywhere has ever been able to find any significant amount of
ionic silver in human blood serum. Sometimes a beautiful theory can be
destroyed by a single ugly fact. It seems that this ugly
Yep, I was thinking about you, Marshalee. You've made a whole lotta
changes since I've known you. grin
Thanks for being there.
Mike D.
Hiya Mike and everyone,
I`ve been here for almost as long as I knew about CS.
First found it when I was Marsha in Kenosha, mmm, about 1996 or so.
Then I
Hi Deb,
My husband has been using one gallon per day since December 2004.
He is showing very good signs.
Note though ... he is a very advanced sufferer.
You should contact Nancy Delise, her email is nancym...@prodigy.net
she cured herself using CS and H202 and I believe she has other people
Greetings all on list ,
Being a new member , having subscribed as recently as 30 or so minutes
ago . And having received my first list , for which I thank you .
I must say that I am amazed at the level of knowledgeable subscribers ,
gathered here on this list .
I've as yet only
Frank writes:
ASAP 22 is far superior at killing pathogens compared to Sovereign
Silver 10 ppm because is has more than twice the silver concentration.
The test clearly indicates that the ASAP 22 produced virtually the same
results as Mesosilver. Yet Quinto would have us believe from his tests
Terry Chamberlin wrote:
Subject: CSppm meters
My question is: Do these ppm meters measure both
colloidal (particulate) and also ionic silver content?
PPM meters don't measure silver at all, they measure electrical
conductivity.
Conductivity can be used to approximate the ionic content
Mike Monett wrote:
The particulate content is of no interest. The oxides are inert and
have no biological activity. You can see this in Steve Quinto's
report on Mesosilver:
There are no oxides in Mesosilver, only silver nanoparticles.
Steve Quinto's studies are as bogus as his use
Trem wrote:
I get many calls from prospective customers mentioning that they have been
to Frank's site and wonder what the facts are. So, yesterday I placed
this
page on our site to answer their questions by referring them to some
information
not tainted by my opinion.
fernwo...@aol.com said,
What are the current beliefs on how much it would
take to cause argyria?
This is the content of an article I have in a
collection of CS articles, sent to those who request
them from me. It is big enough that I must post it in
two parts. Here is part one:
The Final Word on
Excerpts From:
http://www.burnsurgery.org/Betaweb/Modules/silver/section1.htm
Authors: Robert H. Demling, M.D. | Leslie DeSanti, RN
| Dennis P. Orgill, M.D. PhD.
Silver has been used for centuries to prevent and
treat a variety of diseases, most notably infections.
It has been well documented
Frank,
I don't have any facts except the anecdotal information I get from persons
using predominantly ionic CS, their results and the general research I can
find on the subject. It matters little to me the conjecture about which
portion is most effective. What counts to me are results.
A salt test using crystalline salt is only qualitative. It
can be made quantitative by using a (very) dilute saline
solution instead of solid salt. It is just a matter of
dissolving a known mass of NaCl in DW (it's best to
use the same batch of DW as is used to make the EIS)
and diluting it in
Re: CSppm meters
From: Info
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:29:25
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m78932.html
Mike Monett wrote:
The particulate content is of no interest. The oxides are inert
and have no biological activity. You can see this in Steve
Quinto's report on
M. G. Devour wrote :
... I'm afraid that we'll be forced to leave this debate pretty
soon...
I could not agree more.
Thought you might feel that way! grin
My claim is that the EMSL challenge tests are done by one of top labs in
the US and clearly show that a representative ionic silver
Frank writes:
As far as we can determine silver chloride is found in the bloodstream
as a result of ingesting ionic silver. Like others before us, we used an
Ion Selective Electrode (ISE) to search for silver ions and found no
significant silver content while the ICP/AES did find silver in the
Mike Monett wrote:
According to Ivan Anderson, Mesosilver is made of oxides. This makes
sense, since your tan color is similar to diluted silver hydroxide.
Elemental silver is gray or black in solution. You can prove this by
adding pickling salt to 36uS cs to make silver
Hiya Mike and everyone,
I`ve been here for almost as long as I knew about CS.
First found it when I was Marsha in Kenosha, mmm, about 1996 or so.
Then I moved to Milwaukee, WI, then Oceanside CA, then Vallejo, CA, then
Midvale, Utah,
then Provo, Utah, then Napa CA, then back, once and for all,
Mike,The only dated record I can find in my files re length of time as a member
is dated Aug.,1999,but I was lurking a lot sooner than that; to my great
benefit.I can't begin to list how you and the experts have helped me.Many
thanks to all and especially you Mike.Keep up the good work.
CSppm meters
From: Info
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:26:28
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m78940.html
When the water is evaporated from Mesosilver what remains is a
thin film of metallic silver, not silver oxide. This rather easy
experiment requires only that one be able to
Mike,
At least one human study, and many animal studies, have
tracked the fate of silver in vivo. It was done by tracking a
radioactive silver isotope, using the ordinary methods of
tracing radioisotopes e.g. photography.
The one human study occurred in the 1950s following the
accidental
Re: CSIonic versus Colloidal,
From: M. G. Devour
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:51:23
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m78945.html
Greetings Frank,
You write:
What Quinto and Trem fail to address is the fact that no medical
researcher anywhere has ever been able to find any
From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
I know many of those 113 folks have moved on in the last 7 years, but I
know there's still a few of you out there!
Chime in if you've been here all that time! I'd love to know who's
still out there.
I've been off and on, off and on, this wonderful list
I was just wondering what surface the low-Quality CS, could build-up
and accumulate on, when nebulized. Using a nasal nebulizing, most CS
that contacts a surface in the nasal passages and sinuses, is going to
be washed out by mucous, at least that is my best guess. Which is why I
include DSMO
M. G. Devour wrote :
... I'm afraid that we'll be forced to leave this debate pretty soon...
I could not agree more.
I felt compelled to respond because the Quinto test results are being
presented as fact.
My claim is that the EMSL challenge tests are done by one of top labs in the
US
Mike Monett wrote:
This is not necessarily true, Mike. Silver chloride has a solubility
of 0.89 ppm in distilled water. This means a concentration less than
this results in the silver and chlorine ions going their separate
ways.
0.89 in pure water, not blood serum which contains 3500 ppm
Evening John,
Another question, when the term LV is used I take it that it means low
voltage.
LV may not be an official and proper abbreviation, but in this case, it
means low voltage.
If it does, can someone tell me what is low voltage?
Like all the indefinite terms, high, low,
I don't believe she has. However , I was just informed by her homeopath
to stop with the cs to see if it is interfering with the remedy she
prescribed to her. She has been taking both for some time now.
-Original Message-
From: elle roberts [mailto:elle_robe...@hotmail.com]
Sent:
I have been reading some things that suggest as we age, our systems tend to
become more acidic, and this in turn makes our systems more vulnerable to
disease (e.g. cancer) and eventually death. Some advocate ingesting foods
or other organic or inorganic compounds to shift one's pH to be slightly
I've been around since the late 90's myself.
I am mostly a lurker but on occasion, I jump in.
I have had many great experiences with the knowledge I have gleaned from this
Forum. I might also add that this is the most concerned and intelligent bunch
of participants, who give freely of their
Hi SJY,
When you hear about body ph. you must ask, what part of the body. is it the
blood, the urine, the saliva or the water inside the cells or the cell walls
or the stomach acid. they are all differnt some are acid and some are alkaline.
There is a lot of information on the PH and how it
Ernie,
Are you for real?
I am so sad about that.
elle
From: Yogiboy epa...@sympatico.ca
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSCS MS
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 23:11:02 -0500
I don't believe she has. However , I was just informed by her homeopath
to stop
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