is not telling), but it is quite clear that practically all forms of
electro-generated CS work quite well.
Ivan.
-Original Message-
From: Frank Key [mailto:fr...@strsoft.com]
Sent: Monday, 3 March 2003 11:33 a.m.
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSAnthrax Comment - mesosilver
I don't remember Frances ever making the claim that an ion is larger than
a particle, al contrar:
http://www.silvermedicine.org/attributesofsilverparticlesandsolutions.htmlhttp://www.silvermedicine.org/attributesofsilverparticlesandsolutions.html
You'll note that Frances clearly states
: Saturday, March 01, 2003 6:53 AM
Subject: Re: CSAnthrax Comment - mesosilver
I don't remember Frances ever making the claim that an ion is larger than
a particle, al contrar:
http://www.silvermedicine.org/attributesofsilverparticlesandsolutions.html
http://www.silvermedicine.org
Malcolm Stebbins wrote:
Hi Marshall;
Apparently not quite the same.
I understand your point that an equal concentration of the same ions
from whatever source will produce an equal effect - as far as just
those ions are concerned, but I question your assumptions that the
usually attainable
Highly concentrated forms of ionic silver translates to silver
compounds. And yes, that is widely known. That is why most everyone
here insists that CS should be made with distilled water.
Marshall
ascottsil...@aol.com wrote:
Okay, I reread the web site and I guess he is claiming that bigger
I think you are confusing the issue. Silver salts such as silver
nitrate are highly concentrated forms of ionic silver when in solution.
Thus you are saying that A is more likely than B, when A and B
are the same thing.
Marshall
Malcolm Stebbins wrote:
Hmmm, perhaps one reason you didn't
Just what constitutes highly concentrated forms? Any mention of how
much, for how long, for what body weight?
As usual, unqualified claims, no matter who they're from or for what
reason, mean nothing. [except maybe more sales]
ken
At 12:13 AM 2/27/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Okay, I reread
Andy,
Go to www.natural-immunogenics.com and look at the TEM for Mesosilver,
It looks like marbles. If you can print the TEM. Then go to my web
www.hvacsilver.com and look at the TEM for my ARC HVAC. Both TEMs are
made with the same magnification 100,000 X. The TEM people measured my
particales
Andy,
Forget Frank Key! He has an axe to grind.
Ole Bob
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Subject: Re: CSAnthrax Comment
I'm sorry Charles, I posted to chuck by mistake.From: AScottSilver Hi Chuck,I posted the same question to the list on Feb 23 under the subject: "I'll bite" and got no response. The manufacture claims that the stuff is made of
Hi Charles,
I guess I get confused by the nomenclature. This is my understanding:
Ionic = Single silver atoms with a charge of +1.
Particulate = Several silver atoms clumped together with a charge of less
than +1.
Colloid = Anything that is small enough to stay in solution without falling
out
What would we have to make to be effective against anthrax?
[Original Message]
From: C Creel ccr...@eagle1st.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: 2/23/03 7:08:11 PM
Subject: Re: CSAnthrax Comment
Dear Jason,
You said:
Luckily, American Biotech Labs ( ASAP silver ) also tested
Dear Charles,
You said:
What would we have to make to be effective against anthrax?
Great question. Those in labs will have to get a hold of B. anthracis that
possesses the toxic plasmid - the virulent type. No substitutions. Anthrax
toxins have two cell-binding component referred to as the
How is Meso-silver different, and can it be made at home??
[Original Message]
From: C Creel ccr...@eagle1st.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: 2/24/03 1:01:05 AM
Subject: Re: CSAnthrax Comment
Dear Jannette,
You said:
Could you please elaborate on this comment: I think you would
Hi Chuck,
I posted the same question to the list on Feb 23 under the subject: I'll
bite and got no response. The manufacture claims that the stuff is made of
particles and that particles are smaller than ions. That makes no sense to
me. I always thought that ions were charged atoms and
/mesosilver.htm
From: Charles Sutton
How is Meso-silver different, and can it be made at home??
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Okay, I reread the web site and I guess he is claiming that bigger chunks are
better than ions. Does anyone know if this is true? Also, if you keep
reading, he claims that Ingestion of highly concentrated forms of ionic
silver is known to cause argyria, a permanent discoloration of the skin. I
Dear Charles,
How is Meso-silver different, and can it be made at home??
Mesosilver is the name of a brand of colloidal silver.
A search on Google will yield info on it.
For the record, I merely stated this would be my preference
for very serious applications. This is just my opinion.
C Creel wrote:
Dear Jason,
You said:
Luckily, American Biotech Labs ( ASAP silver ) also tested colloidal
silver
against anthrax, and confirmed its susceptibility:
http://www.s-ilversource.com/asap_vs_anthrax.htm
Anthrax spores are not difficult to kill outside the body. There
Jason,
thankyou for talking the time to answer/counter Catherine's statements.
I'm hoping she'll reveal to us the basis/sources of her special knowledge!!
Ultimately we all benefit from all information and mis-information. And, only
if we have members
who will generously share their thoughts and
Catherine,
The earlier work that I saw (i believe it was from Brooks) the one needs to add
about 10% DMSO to the CS in the nebulizer to open up the spore so that the CS
can work.
Can you provide us with the data that you generated in 2001? What forms of Cs
were tried? What additives did it
Catherine Creel -- Please back-up this statement -- inform us why you are
are this kind of expert!!
** I can claim expert knowledge on Anthrax through work I did
surrounding this issue in 2001.
How did you survey exactly what people make at home? And what testing did
you do? May I
Hi Catherine,
I appreciate your response.
To find Brook's comments will take a bunch of digging in the silver list
archives as it was about three years ago.
Another reason to include DMSO in the nebulizer solution is that CS will not cut
through the mucus in the lungs, but DMSO does. Use it
Dear Bob,
You said:
The earlier work that I saw (i believe it was from Brooks) the one needs
to add
about 10% DMSO to the CS in the nebulizer to open up the spore so that the
CS
can work.
** This makes more sense. I'm interested in reading more about this.
Without something like this,
Dear Catherine,
As you might have guessed by now, some people are profit driven. They will
jump all over anyone who questions the benefits of CS. They have web sites
that sell CS, CS books, CS generators, test equipment, etc. I'm sure that
they are good people, but even good people will get
At the conclusion of this Reader's Digest Article
(circa 1936) there appears a bibliography and footnotes.do notice
the reference to the efficacy of silver's effectiveness against
Anthrax. Interesting, no?
Sincerely, Brooks Bradley.
Correction::: Try this oneOld Dog, same trickscan't
type.
At the conclusion of this Reader's Digest Article
(circa 1936) there appears a bibliography and footnotes.do notice
the reference to the efficacy of silver's effectiveness against
Anthrax. Interesting, no?
/asap_vs_anthrax.htm
Best Regards,
Jason
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From: Brooks Bradley brooks.brad...@worldnet.att.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 12:44 PM
Subject: CSAnthrax Comment
Correction::: Try this oneOld Dog, same trickscan't
type
-ilversource.com/asap_vs_anthrax.htm
Best Regards,
Jason
- Original Message -
From: Brooks Bradley brooks.brad...@worldnet.att.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 12:44 PM
Subject: CSAnthrax Comment
Correction::: Try this oneOld Dog, same tricks
Bradley,
What a great journal article! Thanks for sharing!
Dick
Catherine,
Could you please elaborate on this comment: I think you would also find
that the quality of CS most make at home would not be sufficient.
Thanks,
Jannette
Dear Jason,
You said:
Luckily, American Biotech Labs ( ASAP silver ) also tested colloidal
silver
against anthrax, and
Brooks,
My server can't find this item.
Ole Bob
Brooks Bradley wrote:
At the conclusion of this Reader's Digest Article
(circa 1936) there appears a bibliography and footnotes.do notice
the reference to the efficacy of silver's effectiveness against
Anthrax.
Catherine, et al.
To make a very good grade of CS at home only requires that the anode be about
8 to 10 times larger than the cathode and the spacing be reduced to about 2
for 35 volts. No polarity reversal allowed. The Wplot 32 data plot is availbe
if you have the Wplot program, and I can
Dear Jason,
You said:
Luckily, American Biotech Labs ( ASAP silver ) also tested colloidal
silver
against anthrax, and confirmed its susceptibility:
http://www.s-ilversource.com/asap_vs_anthrax.htm
Anthrax spores are not difficult to kill outside the body. There are a
number of
Hello Catherine,
Sunday, February 23, 2003, 7:08:11 PM, you wrote:
CC Anthrax spores are not difficult to kill outside the body. There are a
CC number of
CC substances that do this. Inside the body, the anthrax spore spreads its
CC toxins so quickly, IF CS were to work against it, imediate
: CSAnthrax Comment
Brooks,
My server can't find this item.
Ole Bob
Brooks Bradley wrote:
At the conclusion of this Reader's Digest Article
(circa 1936) there appears a bibliography and footnotes.do notice
the reference to the efficacy of silver's effectiveness
Catherine:
True, but none of these other substances can be used en masse in the
lungs, which also assist the body in the elemination of toxic byproducts...
There have been too many reports of colloidal silver effectiveness with
things such as the brown recluse spider bite, etc., to ignore this
Thanks Catherine, you did answer my question.
Regards,
Jannette
IMO, you couldn't consume enough quickly enough of what is made at
home
(mostly ionic silver) to have it act on the cells in enough time to save
your life.
If I was going to try to address pulmonary anthrax with CS, I
: CSAnthrax Comment
Dear Jannette,
You said:
Could you please elaborate on this comment: I think you would also find
that the quality of CS most make at home would not be sufficient.
I'm not sure what you're looking for here, but if it takes a few days
to
get rid of pneumonia with CS
- Original Message -
From: C Creel ccr...@eagle1st.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: CSAnthrax Comment
Dear Jannette,
You said:
Could you please elaborate on this comment: I think you would also find
that the quality of CS
Dear Jannette,
You said:
Could you please elaborate on this comment: I think you would also find
that the quality of CS most make at home would not be sufficient.
I'm not sure what you're looking for here, but if it takes a few days to
get rid of pneumonia with CS, it has to be
Dear Solar,
You said:
:
I suggest you reread the statement made by Brooks. I will quote it
again Somewhere, in my personal archives, I have a paper
published by a person in the U.S. Department of Agriculture (circa
1940), which discusses the fact that silver and silver-containing
Dear Jason,
You said:
I don't think drinking a couple of gallons of mesosilver is going to do
much
against anthrax. I think you have to hit the lungs directly, whereby a few
bottles of Mesosilver would easily suffice. I've tested the effects of
taking large amounts of colloidal silver
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