Re: #Re: FW: CSWHY EIS is less likely to cause Argyria!

2010-02-05 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Oops, Clash of the Titans? lol dee On 5 Feb 2010, at 03:02, Mike Monett wrote: There is another problem as well. The chemistry of silver indicates that any silver ions in the blood will quickly plate out on any silver particles in the blood, which do not register as ions. He

Re: #Re: FW: CSWHY EIS is less likely to cause Argyria!

2010-02-05 Thread M. G. Devour
Mike Monett jabs: Marshall, your remarkable and profound ignorance of the basic laws of chemistry, physics, logic, and common sense is amusing. Marshall rejoins: Actually I was thinking the same thing about you. That you could be unaware of photography and the chemisty involved is

Re: #Re: FW: CSWHY EIS is less likely to cause Argyria!

2010-02-05 Thread Marshall Dudley
Mike Monett wrote: There is another problem as well. The chemistry of silver indicates that any silver ions in the blood will quickly plate out on any silver particles in the blood, which do not register as ions. He does not confirm that the ions do not make it into

caffeine and EIS, was Re: #Re: FW: CSWHY EIS is less likely to cause Argyria!

2010-02-05 Thread sol
At 11:39 AM 2/5/2010, you wrote: They don't release their charge to the particle, they are neutralized by oxidation by the developer. Although there are many possible developers in the blood, caffeine is one that has a high probability of being there and is a proven photographic

RE: FW: CSWHY EIS is less likely to cause Argyria!

2010-02-04 Thread Ode Coyote
Assuming there was silver to BE found In the face of not stating what WAS found [ IF...anything else was *looked for* ], what WASN'T found is pretty much moot, regardless of method accuracy. Pure speculation: [Can't prove a negative] If someone with the means to find silver, regardless

Re: #Re: FW: CSWHY EIS is less likely to cause Argyria!

2010-02-04 Thread Mike Monett
There is another problem as well. The chemistry of silver indicates that any silver ions in the blood will quickly plate out on any silver particles in the blood, which do not register as ions. He does not confirm that the ions do not make it into the blood, we know

Re: FW: CSWHY EIS is less likely to cause Argyria!

2010-02-03 Thread Marshall Dudley
There is another problem as well. The chemistry of silver indicates that any silver ions in the blood will quickly plate out on any silver particles in the blood, which do not register as ions. He does not confirm that the ions do not make it into the blood, we know from those who get

RE: FW: CSWHY EIS is less likely to cause Argyria!

2010-02-03 Thread Norton, Steve
[mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 8:17 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: FW: CSWHY EIS is less likely to cause Argyria! There is another problem as well. The chemistry of silver indicates that any silver ions in the blood will quickly plate out on any

Re: FW: CSWHY EIS is less likely to cause Argyria!

2010-02-02 Thread Ode Coyote
Frank used an ion selective probe to see if there was any Ionic Silver in the blood after ingesting EIS. He found none. What he doesn't say is what he did find [or if he *looked* for metallic silver ] That speaks unspoken volumes of unprovable speculation...but un-proven isn't

Re: FW: CSWHY EIS is less likely to cause Argyria!

2010-02-02 Thread Mike Monett
Frank used an ion selective probe to see if there was any Ionic Silver in the blood after ingesting EIS. He found none. I remember that post. Frank was being very disingenuous. He buys a lot of expensive lab equipment and certainly knows the capabilities and limitations of each

Re: FW: CSWHY EIS is less likely to cause Argyria!

2010-02-02 Thread Mike Monett
Correction: The milk test performed by Marvin Hacker shows the minimum level needed to kill e.coli bacteria is around 400 parts per billion. (I will supply the calculations later when I have more time): http://www.pstca.com/silversol/testing/milk.htm Oops, I have e.coli

Re: FW: CSWHY EIS is less likely to cause Argyria!

2010-02-01 Thread sms
Much appreciated Steve. Sasha --- From: Norton, Steve Date: 02/01/10 12:02:38 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: FW: CSWHY EIS is less likely to cause Argyria! Sasha, From the paper I forwarded to Neville: The following is abstracted from an online debate between