Re: CS>The color of colloidal silver

[Deborah Gerard]

 Smitty how are you doing in Hawaii? Been watching the lava situation there 
hope all is well with you and yours.
Debbie
On Sunday, August 12, 2018, 1:28:56 AM EDT, Smitty  
wrote:  
 
 For a better controlplace a cup of CS water in a cabinet (dark)and a cup on 
the countertop exposed to sunlightand compare the two after a few hours
On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 4:19 PM, Harsha Godavari  wrote:

"Silver"  is extremely sensitive (as in CS but not as a solid metal) to light 
hence it's use in photographic emulsions. Indirect light has plenty of light 
for photo-reactions to take place in the CS. Its turning dark indicates a 
photo-reaction and the precipitation of 'metallic' silver. Put a plant in that 
indirect light and see if its growth is retarded.

When the dogs slurp the liquid, a part of the saliva and some of the liquid 
wash back into the bowl. Try putting a little starch in the in that "muddy 
looking CS solution " cover it tightly and leave it for several hours and may 
even be a day and watch the change in the starch grains. My guess is that the 
starch would vanish since saliva contains enzyme that dissolve starch (convert 
to sugar).

regards
harsha godavari


- Original Message -
From: Jean Baugh 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 16:54:37 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: CS>The color of colloidal silver

Hi,

After thinking about all the possible answers, decided to place another bowl of 
colloidal silver on top of the car today, in indirect sunlight, along with 
another bowl of well water.

There is nothing in this colloidal silver other than Walgreen’s distilled water 
(Nice!), and the silver electrodes.

The CS turned a dark gray and the plain water did not change at all.

The answer must be one of my dogs took a small drink from that first bowl that 
turned it muddy looking. What a strange reaction!

Thank you,

Jean

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Re: CS>The color of colloidal silver

[Marshall]

Electromagnetic radiation can only affect CS if it is absorbed.  Crystal 
clear CS will therefore be unaffected by visible light, but yellow CS 
can be degraded by blue light
(which is what yellow absorbs).  Now clear CS will generally absorb 
ultra violet radiation, and can be affected by uv light.  However most 
glass absorbs UV light, so it is blocked from affecting it.


Marshall

8/12/2018 3:40 PM, Jean Baugh wrote:

Hi Ode,

Do you think the glass is stopping the reaction of the sun on the 
colloidal silver?  If you know why, would you please share with us?


Once read a very interesting article about wearing glasses, caused 
blocking some benefits of the sun.


Thank you,

Jean

***
On Aug 12, 2018, at 4:36 AM, Ode Coyote > wrote:


Pure silver is not sensitive to light, several silver *compounds* 
such as silver chloride and silver carbonate ARE.
I've left batches of EIS on a sunny windowsill in clear glass for 5 
years and they did not change at all.
The batches that were not well sealed against air eventually oxidized 
and turned yellow, some of that yellow plated onto the glass.

Hydrogen Peroxide destroys that particular form of silver oxide.
There are 5 different forms of silver oxide possible, one of which is 
made by exposure to Hydrogen Peroxide.
Take a black electrode and soak it in H2O2...it will become silver 
dust white very quickly.

Leave it there for many hours and it will turn black again.
Ode

Re: CS>The color of colloidal silver

[Ode Coyote]

If it only looks cloudy in direct sunlight, but not in diffused artificial
light...it's fine.
If cloudy in all light, you probably have some water purity issues and have
made some sort of silver compound.

ode

On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 9:30 AM, Nicky  wrote:

> Made a batch of CS and it looked cloudy when finished.
> Any ideas why?  Is it still drinkable?
> Thanks
> Nicky
>
>
> On Aug 12, 2018, at 5:36 AM, Ode Coyote  wrote:
>
> Pure silver is not sensitive to light, several silver *compounds* such as
> silver chloride and silver carbonate ARE.
> I've left batches of EIS on a sunny windowsill in clear glass for 5 years
> and they did not change at all.
> The batches that were not well sealed against air eventually oxidized and
> turned yellow, some of that yellow plated onto the glass.
> Hydrogen Peroxide destroys that particular form of silver oxide.
> There are 5 different forms of silver oxide possible, one of which is made
> by exposure to Hydrogen Peroxide.
> Take a black electrode and soak it in H2O2...it will become silver dust
> white very quickly.
> Leave it there for many hours and it will turn black again.
> Ode
>
> On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 10:19 PM, Harsha Godavari 
> wrote:
>
>> "Silver"  is extremely sensitive (as in CS but not as a solid metal) to
>> light hence it's use in photographic emulsions. Indirect light has plenty
>> of light for photo-reactions to take place in the CS. Its turning dark
>> indicates a photo-reaction and the precipitation of 'metallic' silver. Put
>> a plant in that indirect light and see if its growth is retarded.
>>
>> When the dogs slurp the liquid, a part of the saliva and some of the
>> liquid wash back into the bowl. Try putting a little starch in the in that
>> "muddy looking CS solution " cover it tightly and leave it for several
>> hours and may even be a day and watch the change in the starch grains. My
>> guess is that the starch would vanish since saliva contains enzyme that
>> dissolve starch (convert to sugar).
>>
>> regards
>> harsha godavari
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Jean Baugh 
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> Sent: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 16:54:37 -0600 (MDT)
>> Subject: CS>The color of colloidal silver
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> After thinking about all the possible answers, decided to place another
>> bowl of colloidal silver on top of the car today, in indirect sunlight,
>> along with another bowl of well water.
>>
>> There is nothing in this colloidal silver other than Walgreen’s distilled
>> water (Nice!), and the silver electrodes.
>>
>> The CS turned a dark gray and the plain water did not change at all.
>>
>> The answer must be one of my dogs took a small drink from that first bowl
>> that turned it muddy looking. What a strange reaction!
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Jean
>>
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Re: CS>The color of colloidal silver

[Ode Coyote]

 Do you think the glass is stopping the reaction of the sun on the
colloidal silver?
No
The reaction is photo-chemical and pure silver has no "chemical" component
in it...it is pure.

The myth that colloidal silver is light sensitive came from the old days
when people used salt or baking soda to make it...producing silver chloride
or silver carbonate, both of which are photo-chemically reactive silver
compounds
Does the sun affect a silver bullion coin?

Silver tarnish is the discoloration of sterling silver items which can take
on a yellow or black tint. Although the pure silver in sterling silver does
not react and tarnish at room temperature, the copper added can easily
react with the salt and sulfur in the air, making sterling silver rust.
When making or storing EIS [CS] the presence of copper can do some very
strange things.
Like, if you drop a shiny piece of copper wire into the batch, it will pull
eventually every bit of silver out of the water and drop it to the bottom
as fuzzy black balls that surround the wire piece that smear silver under
finger pressure...and the wire will still be shiny.

If you use 90% circulation coins like quarters [10% copper ] as electrodes
and polarity switching, big shiny silver crystals will form on them.

Ode

On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 3:40 PM, Jean Baugh 
wrote:

> Hi Ode,
>
> Do you think the glass is stopping the reaction of the sun on the
> colloidal silver?  If you know why, would you please share with us?
>
> Once read a very interesting article about wearing glasses, caused
> blocking some benefits of the sun.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Jean
>
> ***
>
> On Aug 12, 2018, at 4:36 AM, Ode Coyote  wrote:
>
> Pure silver is not sensitive to light, several silver *compounds* such as
> silver chloride and silver carbonate ARE.
> I've left batches of EIS on a sunny windowsill in clear glass for 5 years
> and they did not change at all.
> The batches that were not well sealed against air eventually oxidized and
> turned yellow, some of that yellow plated onto the glass.
> Hydrogen Peroxide destroys that particular form of silver oxide.
> There are 5 different forms of silver oxide possible, one of which is made
> by exposure to Hydrogen Peroxide.
> Take a black electrode and soak it in H2O2...it will become silver dust
> white very quickly.
> Leave it there for many hours and it will turn black again.
> Ode
>
>
>

Re: CS>The color of colloidal silver

[Nicky]

Made a batch of CS and it looked cloudy when finished.
Any ideas why?  Is it still drinkable?
Thanks
Nicky


> On Aug 12, 2018, at 5:36 AM, Ode Coyote  wrote:
> 
> Pure silver is not sensitive to light, several silver *compounds* such as 
> silver chloride and silver carbonate ARE.
> I've left batches of EIS on a sunny windowsill in clear glass for 5 years and 
> they did not change at all.
> The batches that were not well sealed against air eventually oxidized and 
> turned yellow, some of that yellow plated onto the glass.
> Hydrogen Peroxide destroys that particular form of silver oxide.
> There are 5 different forms of silver oxide possible, one of which is made by 
> exposure to Hydrogen Peroxide.
> Take a black electrode and soak it in H2O2...it will become silver dust white 
> very quickly.
> Leave it there for many hours and it will turn black again.
> Ode
> 
> On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 10:19 PM, Harsha Godavari  > wrote:
> "Silver"  is extremely sensitive (as in CS but not as a solid metal) to light 
> hence it's use in photographic emulsions. Indirect light has plenty of light 
> for photo-reactions to take place in the CS. Its turning dark indicates a 
> photo-reaction and the precipitation of 'metallic' silver. Put a plant in 
> that indirect light and see if its growth is retarded.
> 
> When the dogs slurp the liquid, a part of the saliva and some of the liquid 
> wash back into the bowl. Try putting a little starch in the in that "muddy 
> looking CS solution " cover it tightly and leave it for several hours and may 
> even be a day and watch the change in the starch grains. My guess is that the 
> starch would vanish since saliva contains enzyme that dissolve starch 
> (convert to sugar).
> 
> regards
> harsha godavari
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Jean Baugh  >
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
> Sent: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 16:54:37 -0600 (MDT)
> Subject: CS>The color of colloidal silver
> 
> Hi,
> 
> After thinking about all the possible answers, decided to place another bowl 
> of colloidal silver on top of the car today, in indirect sunlight, along with 
> another bowl of well water.
> 
> There is nothing in this colloidal silver other than Walgreen’s distilled 
> water (Nice!), and the silver electrodes.
> 
> The CS turned a dark gray and the plain water did not change at all.
> 
> The answer must be one of my dogs took a small drink from that first bowl 
> that turned it muddy looking. What a strange reaction!
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Jean
> 
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Re: CS>The color of colloidal silver

[Ode Coyote]

Pure silver is not sensitive to light, several silver *compounds* such as
silver chloride and silver carbonate ARE.
I've left batches of EIS on a sunny windowsill in clear glass for 5 years
and they did not change at all.
The batches that were not well sealed against air eventually oxidized and
turned yellow, some of that yellow plated onto the glass.
Hydrogen Peroxide destroys that particular form of silver oxide.
There are 5 different forms of silver oxide possible, one of which is made
by exposure to Hydrogen Peroxide.
Take a black electrode and soak it in H2O2...it will become silver dust
white very quickly.
Leave it there for many hours and it will turn black again.
Ode

On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 10:19 PM, Harsha Godavari 
wrote:

> "Silver"  is extremely sensitive (as in CS but not as a solid metal) to
> light hence it's use in photographic emulsions. Indirect light has plenty
> of light for photo-reactions to take place in the CS. Its turning dark
> indicates a photo-reaction and the precipitation of 'metallic' silver. Put
> a plant in that indirect light and see if its growth is retarded.
>
> When the dogs slurp the liquid, a part of the saliva and some of the
> liquid wash back into the bowl. Try putting a little starch in the in that
> "muddy looking CS solution " cover it tightly and leave it for several
> hours and may even be a day and watch the change in the starch grains. My
> guess is that the starch would vanish since saliva contains enzyme that
> dissolve starch (convert to sugar).
>
> regards
> harsha godavari
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Jean Baugh 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 16:54:37 -0600 (MDT)
> Subject: CS>The color of colloidal silver
>
> Hi,
>
> After thinking about all the possible answers, decided to place another
> bowl of colloidal silver on top of the car today, in indirect sunlight,
> along with another bowl of well water.
>
> There is nothing in this colloidal silver other than Walgreen’s distilled
> water (Nice!), and the silver electrodes.
>
> The CS turned a dark gray and the plain water did not change at all.
>
> The answer must be one of my dogs took a small drink from that first bowl
> that turned it muddy looking. What a strange reaction!
>
> Thank you,
>
> Jean
>
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Re: CS>The color of colloidal silver

[Smitty]

For a better control
place a cup of CS water in a cabinet (dark)
and a cup on the countertop exposed to sunlight
and compare the two after a few hours

On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 4:19 PM, Harsha Godavari  wrote:

> "Silver"  is extremely sensitive (as in CS but not as a solid metal) to
> light hence it's use in photographic emulsions. Indirect light has plenty
> of light for photo-reactions to take place in the CS. Its turning dark
> indicates a photo-reaction and the precipitation of 'metallic' silver. Put
> a plant in that indirect light and see if its growth is retarded.
>
> When the dogs slurp the liquid, a part of the saliva and some of the
> liquid wash back into the bowl. Try putting a little starch in the in that
> "muddy looking CS solution " cover it tightly and leave it for several
> hours and may even be a day and watch the change in the starch grains. My
> guess is that the starch would vanish since saliva contains enzyme that
> dissolve starch (convert to sugar).
>
> regards
> harsha godavari
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Jean Baugh 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 16:54:37 -0600 (MDT)
> Subject: CS>The color of colloidal silver
>
> Hi,
>
> After thinking about all the possible answers, decided to place another
> bowl of colloidal silver on top of the car today, in indirect sunlight,
> along with another bowl of well water.
>
> There is nothing in this colloidal silver other than Walgreen’s distilled
> water (Nice!), and the silver electrodes.
>
> The CS turned a dark gray and the plain water did not change at all.
>
> The answer must be one of my dogs took a small drink from that first bowl
> that turned it muddy looking. What a strange reaction!
>
> Thank you,
>
> Jean
>
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Re: CS>The color of colloidal silver

[Harsha Godavari]

"Silver"  is extremely sensitive (as in CS but not as a solid metal) to light 
hence it's use in photographic emulsions. Indirect light has plenty of light 
for photo-reactions to take place in the CS. Its turning dark indicates a 
photo-reaction and the precipitation of 'metallic' silver. Put a plant in that 
indirect light and see if its growth is retarded.
When the dogs slurp the liquid, a part of the saliva and some of the liquid 
wash back into the bowl. Try putting a little starch in the in that "muddy 
looking CS solution " cover it tightly and leave it for several hours and may 
even be a day and watch the change in the starch grains. My guess is that the 
starch would vanish since saliva contains enzyme that dissolve starch (convert 
to sugar).regardsharsha godavari- Original Message -
From: Jean Baugh 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 16:54:37 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: CS>The color of colloidal silver

Hi,

After thinking about all the possible answers, decided to place another bowl of 
colloidal silver on top of the car today, in indirect sunlight, along with 
another bowl of well water.

There is nothing in this colloidal silver other than Walgreen’s distilled water 
(Nice!), and the silver electrodes.

The CS turned a dark gray and the plain water did not change at all.

The answer must be one of my dogs took a small drink from that first bowl that 
turned it muddy looking. What a strange reaction!

Thank you,

Jean

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Re: CS>The color of colloidal silver

[Reid Harvey]

Could it be that there was silver oxide in the solution, along with the
Ag+?

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 8:16 PM,  wrote:

> One thing to consider, most dish 'soaps' have a 'sheeting' additive that
> helps the water stay absolutely in one film on your glass ware, ceramics,
> etc., etc.  It's impossible to detect by feel, or by sight wet or dry,
> feels clean and smooth, "nothing there".  Not impossible to wash off, but
> darn difficult, and takes a little time.  Sometimes, your fingertips have
> the keenest 'eyes' of all, squeaky clean may be a better sign than the
> bowls' appearance.  There could sure be other factors at work here too, . .
> .  Malcolm
>
> On 2018-08-09 19:40, Jean Baugh wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I set out a white bowl with estimated 12 to 15 ppm of colloidal silver
>> for my dogs, in the shade. Within minutes the color began to change
>> from colorless to muddy looking.  After 30 minutes, took the bowl back
>> inside and poured some more of the same colloidal silver in another
>> white bowl, then took a picture of them, side by side.  This happened
>> once before but after being exposed to the sun.  Indirect sunlight has
>> powerful effects also.  A long time ago, someone posted about keeping
>> CS out of the sunlight but don’t remember the reason, other than maybe
>> it caused it to lose it’s electrical charge.  But muddy??
>>
>> Can anyone explain this color change?
>>
>> I can send a picture of this to anyone who wants to see it.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Jean
>>
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Re: CS>The color of colloidal silver

[Ode Coyote]

Actually, it's the dogs saliva that changes the silver...usually to purple.
Backwash from drinking EIS from the storage container will sometimes do
that too, depending on what you ate recently.

ode

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 8:16 PM,  wrote:

> One thing to consider, most dish 'soaps' have a 'sheeting' additive that
> helps the water stay absolutely in one film on your glass ware, ceramics,
> etc., etc.  It's impossible to detect by feel, or by sight wet or dry,
> feels clean and smooth, "nothing there".  Not impossible to wash off, but
> darn difficult, and takes a little time.  Sometimes, your fingertips have
> the keenest 'eyes' of all, squeaky clean may be a better sign than the
> bowls' appearance.  There could sure be other factors at work here too, . .
> .  Malcolm
>
> On 2018-08-09 19:40, Jean Baugh wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I set out a white bowl with estimated 12 to 15 ppm of colloidal silver
>> for my dogs, in the shade. Within minutes the color began to change
>> from colorless to muddy looking.  After 30 minutes, took the bowl back
>> inside and poured some more of the same colloidal silver in another
>> white bowl, then took a picture of them, side by side.  This happened
>> once before but after being exposed to the sun.  Indirect sunlight has
>> powerful effects also.  A long time ago, someone posted about keeping
>> CS out of the sunlight but don’t remember the reason, other than maybe
>> it caused it to lose it’s electrical charge.  But muddy??
>>
>> Can anyone explain this color change?
>>
>> I can send a picture of this to anyone who wants to see it.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Jean
>>
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Re: CS>The color of colloidal silver

[st]

One thing to consider, most dish 'soaps' have a 'sheeting' additive that 
helps the water stay absolutely in one film on your glass ware, 
ceramics, etc., etc.  It's impossible to detect by feel, or by sight wet 
or dry, feels clean and smooth, "nothing there".  Not impossible to wash 
off, but darn difficult, and takes a little time.  Sometimes, your 
fingertips have the keenest 'eyes' of all, squeaky clean may be a better 
sign than the bowls' appearance.  There could sure be other factors at 
work here too, . . .  Malcolm


On 2018-08-09 19:40, Jean Baugh wrote:

Hi,

I set out a white bowl with estimated 12 to 15 ppm of colloidal silver
for my dogs, in the shade. Within minutes the color began to change
from colorless to muddy looking.  After 30 minutes, took the bowl back
inside and poured some more of the same colloidal silver in another
white bowl, then took a picture of them, side by side.  This happened
once before but after being exposed to the sun.  Indirect sunlight has
powerful effects also.  A long time ago, someone posted about keeping
CS out of the sunlight but don’t remember the reason, other than maybe
it caused it to lose it’s electrical charge.  But muddy??

Can anyone explain this color change?

I can send a picture of this to anyone who wants to see it.

Thank you,

Jean

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