Re: [Simh] EXT : VAX SDL support?

Hi, >I've seen references to VAXwindows. I know it predates VMS 5 but I am not >sure if it was a layered product or not. VAXwindows was a layered product (like just about everything DEC sold for VMS). Without it a VAXstation of that era wouldn't be very user friendly, but it would boot happily

[Simh] VAX 82x0/83x0 and VAX 66x0 tech docs (and VAXBI docs)

Folks, I found a few technical reference manuals (KA820/KA825 and VAX 6200 and 6600 series) through google search, etc. I reviewed KA820/KA825 (VAX 82x0/83x0) tech docs and it does not use SRM firmware like KA780/KA865 processors. It uses VAXBI interface for I/O devices. I think that it

Re: [Simh] EXT : VAX SDL support?

I've seen references to VAXwindows. I know it predates VMS 5 but I am not sure if it was a layered product or not. There is also a very primitive window system for P/OS on the DECPro called Synergy (which I would love to find documentation for) that you could control with either the keyboard or

Re: [Simh] EXT : VAX SDL support?

I've seen references to VAXwindows. I know it predates VMS 5 but I am not sure if it was a layered product or not. There is also a very primitive window system for P/OS on the DECPro called Synergy (which I would love to find documentation for) that you could control with either the keyboard or

[Simh] Compiling simh on an Android using Termux

IIRC, someone successfully compiled simh on Android using the Termux shell. I really don't want to root my tablet and will be without my computer for a week or so, so I thought I would play around with some OS configurations, brush up on my PDP-11 assembly etc. Anyways I am not good with Linux

Re: [Simh] EXT : VAX SDL support?

The Qbus-based VAXen support the QVSS (black-n-white) video module cards, which were the basis of the original VaxStation I and were also compatible with VaxStation II's, III's, and 4000's. The SIMH QVSS uses SDL for visualization. This is a native DecWindows interface. To be honest, it's just

Re: [Simh] HSC vs UDA/QDA

> On Mar 9, 2017, at 12:15 PM, Mark Pizzolato wrote: > > On Wednesday, March 8, 2017 at 11:50 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: >> ... > > When Matt Burke initially was working on this, I believe that we talked > briefly > about extending sim_ether to support packet delivery

Re: [Simh] CI750 tech docs and VAX firmware

On 2017-03-09 19:00, Paul Koning wrote: On Mar 9, 2017, at 12:27 PM, Timothe Litt wrote: .. With respect to an earlier question about CI emulation: The best approach may be to emulate it as multicast ethernet. Setup a couple of groups for each star coupler. Each coupler

Re: [Simh] Issues with VH simulation and 4.3BSD-Quasijarus

On 2017-03-09 19:09, Clem Cole wrote: It looks that way..., but I need some help from Bob or Mark on VH history, That was developed at DEC during the period I was off doing Masscomp/Stellar et al. During my time earlier time with PDP11 and Vaxen, you used DEC DZ's or DEC DH's or Able

Re: [Simh] Now some DZ/terminal questions

Clem... On 2017-03-09 15:58, Clem Cole wrote: Warren, We can take this offline. The quick answer is as far as simh is concerned leave everything as 8 bits. I'll show you how to make the rest work properly. The logins will run 8 bits also, but will run with parity enabled which BSD will

Re: [Simh] CI750 tech docs and VAX firmware

> On Mar 9, 2017, at 1:23 PM, Timothe Litt wrote: > > I don't have time to dig up the details. But TOPS-10/20 definitely supported > the CI. Interesting. That sounds like a product-specific item rather than part of the standard architecture. paul

Re: [Simh] Issues with VH simulation and 4.3BSD-Quasijarus

> On Mar 9, 2017, at 3:15 PM, dun...@caltech.edu wrote: > >> So ...If the DHV is supposed to the simh emulation of the combination of a >> DEC DH11 and DM11 pair (the DM11 was the modem control option for the DH), >> then this should "just work" > > The SIMH VH device is a simulation of the DEC

Re: [Simh] Simh Digest, Vol 158, Issue 14

There were 3rd party Unibus to Qbus converters that would handle the signal Mux/decus issues on the bus lines. I never saw any on 11/780 class boxes. Crappy UBA was slow. Most were used to put Unibus peripherals on Qbus Vaxes. Bill -Original Message- From: Clem Cole

Re: [Simh] Issues with VH simulation and 4.3BSD-Quasijarus

I used DHV11s on Microvax II when they we're real hardware. Worked fine under VMS.  I imagine DH11 wasn't different enough for them to not work on unibus. Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A Original message From: Clem Cole Date: 3/9/17 12:13 PM (GMT-07:00) To: Mark

Re: [Simh] Issues with VH simulation and 4.3BSD-Quasijarus

> So ...If the DHV is supposed to the simh emulation of the combination of a > DEC DH11 and DM11 pair (the DM11 was the modem control option for the DH), > then this should "just work" The SIMH VH device is a simulation of the DEC DHQ device (M3107), a dual height Qbus board, normally supporting

Re: [Simh] Simh Digest, Vol 158, Issue 14

On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 2:16 PM, William Pechter wrote: > Unibus DH/DM backplane s and boards were not supported by DEC on Unibus... ​I assume you mean were not supported on the VAX UBA. And that would make sense.​ ___ Simh mailing

Re: [Simh] Simh Digest, Vol 158, Issue 14

On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 2:16 PM, William Pechter wrote: > I did Field Service through 8650s and never saw them. DMF32s - IIRC had > modem control capability on some lines or is my memory shot. ​DMF32 and DZ had >>partial<< modem control. It was crock in both cases and did

[Simh] VAX SDL support?

Quick question - I saw SDL graphics support mentioned somewhere and wondered which emulators have graphics support? Do any of the VAX ones? Can I run native DECWindows on any of them? sampsa ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com

Re: [Simh] Issues with VH simulation and 4.3BSD-Quasijarus

On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: > device dhu0at uba? csr 0160440 vector dhurint >> >> It's been years since, I did this stuff... >> >> 1. 0160400 is 0xE120 and 0160400 certainly looks right for the >> Unibus address for a DH.

Re: [Simh] Issues with VH simulation and 4.3BSD-Quasijarus

On 3/9/17 11:18 AM, Cory Smelosky wrote: >> 3. I never saw a real DEC DH on a Vax because of power and space issues. >> 4. That said, we used to mix DEC DH11s and Able DH11's on the PDP-11 >> all the time >> 5. Able DH11's were the most used serial controllers in BSD UNIX land >> for

Re: [Simh] Issues with VH simulation and 4.3BSD-Quasijarus

Clem Cole wrote: Mark... as an FYI if it is of any help.. VH address=2013E120-2013E15F*, vector=C0-DC*, BR4, lines=64, 4 units VH0 attached to 8070, DHU mode, Modem 0 current connections VH1 DHU mode VH2 DHU mode VH3 DHU mode device dhu0at

Re: [Simh] Simh Digest, Vol 158, Issue 14

Unibus DH/DM backplane s and boards were not supported by DEC on Unibus... Does Simh support them. I did Field Service through 8650s and never saw them. DMF32s - IIRC had modem control capability on some lines or is my memory shot. Bill ___ Simh

Re: [Simh] Issues with VH simulation and 4.3BSD-Quasijarus

Mark... as an FYI if it is of any help.. VH address=2013E120-2013E15F*, vector=C0-DC*, BR4, lines=64, 4 units VH0 attached to 8070, DHU mode, Modem 0 current connections VH1 DHU mode VH2 DHU mode VH3 DHU mode device dhu0at uba? csr 0160440

Re: [Simh] Issues with VH simulation and 4.3BSD-Quasijarus

On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Mark Pizzolato wrote: > You mean DHV, not DVH ​yes​ ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh

Re: [Simh] Issues with VH simulation and 4.3BSD-Quasijarus

On Thu, Mar 9, 2017, at 10:33, Mark Pizzolato wrote: > You mean DHV, not DVH, right? DHV is a Qbus variant of some version > of the DH11 device. A VAX 780, not having a Qbus, wouldn’t have such > a device in its configuration. > > The addresses you see in the SHOW CONFIG output are

Re: [Simh] Issues with VH simulation and 4.3BSD-Quasijarus

You mean DHV, not DVH, right? DHV is a Qbus variant of some version of the DH11 device. A VAX 780, not having a Qbus, wouldn’t have such a device in its configuration. The addresses you see in the SHOW CONFIG output are where the simulator will respond to I/O space references. Those

Re: [Simh] HSC vs UDA/QDA

The simh VAX simulators will readily participate in LAVC clustering with other simh simulators and/or real VAX systems as long as they're all present on the same LAN. How to configure and/or manage cluster systems is described in various DEC documents with nothing special relevant to the

Re: [Simh] CI750 tech docs and VAX firmware

> On Mar 9, 2017, at 12:27 PM, Timothe Litt wrote: > > .. > With respect to an earlier question about CI emulation: The best approach > may be to emulate it as multicast ethernet. Setup a couple of groups for > each star coupler. Each coupler supports up to 32 nodes. For

Re: [Simh] CI750 tech docs and VAX firmware

The CI interface is the KLIPA. Its a KL10-only device that sits in an RH20 channel slot. It uses a port architecture similar to the CI780, with queues and 36-bit pointers in physical memory. It's supported in 7.04. With respect to an earlier question about CI emulation: The best approach may

Re: [Simh] HSC vs UDA/QDA

On Wednesday, March 8, 2017 at 11:50 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > On 2017-03-09 02:26, Paul Koning wrote: > > > >> On Mar 8, 2017, at 7:44 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > >> > >> On 2017-03-08 22:15, Bob Supnik wrote: > >>> The HSC family offered a superset of capabilities

Re: [Simh] Now some DZ/terminal questions

On Thursday, March 9, 2017 at 4:04 AM, Warren Toomey wrote: > Is there a way to set bind some (but not all) DZ lines to localhost port X, > and some (but not all) DZ lines to any address port Y (or X, doesn't matter)? > I want to make the uucp DZ TCP ports visible on the Internet, but set the >

Re: [Simh] Now some DZ/terminal questions

Warren, We can take this offline. The quick answer is as far as simh is concerned leave everything as 8 bits. I'll show you how to make the rest work properly. The logins will run 8 bits also, but will run with parity enabled which BSD will handle just peachy. Also, as I mentioned