Re: [Simh] going back to the VAX console with CTRL P

2019-08-06 Thread Jeremy Begg
Hi, >The simulator's console port can be separated from the control activites of >the simulator when it is connected to a TELNET session with the command: > > sim> SET CONSOLE TELNET=listenportnumber > >A telnet session to localhost:listenportnumber will have all characters passed

Re: [Simh] going back to the VAX console with CTRL P

2019-08-06 Thread gérard Calliet
Hello, I didn't want to be boring and create a philosophical discution. It was a naïve question. And in fact, I could do what I wanted to do (ask for softint #14 to initiate xdelta debugger) by program. simh console and VAX emulated console have not same syntax to interact with registers,

Re: [Simh] going back to the VAX console with CTRL P

2019-08-06 Thread Ray Jewhurst
The biggest problem that I find is that unless you do a console, you lose your prompt and that is kind of annoying. It would be nice if you could re-echo if you will in order to keep continuity. Ray On Tue, Aug 6, 2019, 3:46 PM Johnny Billquist wrote: > I think the key concept was "the

Re: [Simh] going back to the VAX console with CTRL P

2019-08-06 Thread Johnny Billquist
I think the key concept was "the simulator does not stop". Essentially, be able to give commands to simh while the simulated system continues running. Which would be a nice thing to be able to do when you just want to change which tape or disk is attached, for example. Johnny On 2019-08-06

Re: [Simh] going back to the VAX console with CTRL P

2019-08-06 Thread Richard Cornwell
Hi Mark, It does but is cumbersome. If all I want to do is attach or detach a device or change a setting I have to connect up to the remote port and issue the command. Would be nice just to hit ^E execute the commands I want and then ^E to get back to simulator. Rich > On Tuesday,

Re: [Simh] going back to the VAX console with CTRL P

2019-08-06 Thread Mark Pizzolato
On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 12:20 PM, Richard Cornwell wrote: >What I would rather see then an automatic connection of the console >to a telnet port, is the command processor running in a thread so >that when you ^E your simulator does not stop. Perhaps this could be >toggle able

Re: [Simh] going back to the VAX console with CTRL P

2019-08-06 Thread Richard Cornwell
Hi All, What I would rather see then an automatic connection of the console to a telnet port, is the command processor running in a thread so that when you ^E your simulator does not stop. Perhaps this could be toggle able for testing purposes. SIMH already support redirecting the

Re: [Simh] going back to the VAX console with CTRL P

2019-08-06 Thread Clem Cole
Nelson (and Mark), IMO, this is the issue with in-band systems. No matter what you pick, it is going to conflict with something. ^P was an issue on the vax console. Hey ^S/^Q being 'in-band' has always been an issue for lots of things (which is why us UNIX types used DH11's with RTS/CTS

Re: [Simh] going back to the VAX console with CTRL P

2019-08-06 Thread Mark Pizzolato
On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 11:28 AM, Nelson H. F. Beebe wrote: > List discussions today have commented on the default of Ctl-E (ASCII > 005) as the SIMH escape character, to return from a guest O/S to SIMH itself. > > That character is commonly used in the emacs editor family, and in Unix and

Re: [Simh] going back to the VAX console with CTRL P

2019-08-06 Thread Nelson H. F. Beebe
List discussions today have commented on the default of Ctl-E (ASCII 005) as the SIMH escape character, to return from a guest O/S to SIMH itself. That character is commonly used in the emacs editor family, and in Unix and TOPS-20 shells, usually to move to end of line. I was long ago

Re: [Simh] going back to the VAX console with CTRL P

2019-08-06 Thread Mark Pizzolato
, August 6, 2019 10:41 AM To: Mark Pizzolato Cc: gérard Calliet ; simh@trailing-edge.com Subject: Re: [Simh] going back to the VAX console with CTRL P It would make sense to add some conditional code so when a VAX emulator is compiled Ctrl-P is set as the console interrupt character. Ctrl-E is used

Re: [Simh] going back to the VAX console with CTRL P

2019-08-06 Thread Jonathan Welch
It would make sense to add some conditional code so when a VAX emulator is compiled Ctrl-P is set as the console interrupt character. Ctrl-E is used when line editing. On Tue, Aug 6, 2019, 1:36 PM Mark Pizzolato wrote: > On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 10:19 AM, gérard Calliet wrote: > > With a

Re: [Simh] going back to the VAX console with CTRL P

2019-08-06 Thread Mark Pizzolato
On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 10:19 AM, gérard Calliet wrote: > With a hardware VAX, we can get back to the console from the OPA terminal > using a CTRL P key. Usefull to do some deposit, for example to initiate > xDELTA. > > Is it something like that possible with simh? I tried it and no result.

Re: [Simh] going back to the VAX console with CTRL P

2019-08-06 Thread Jonathan Welch
In your vax.ini file try putting Set console wru=10 which is hex for Ctrl-P On Tue, Aug 6, 2019, 1:19 PM gérard Calliet wrote: > Hello, > > With a hardware VAX, we can get back to the console from the OPA > terminal using a CTRL P key. Usefull to do some deposit, for example to > initiate