Re: [Simh] going back to the VAX console with CTRL P

2019-08-06 Thread Jonathan Welch
In your vax.ini file try putting Set console wru=10 which is hex for Ctrl-P On Tue, Aug 6, 2019, 1:19 PM gérard Calliet wrote: > Hello, > > With a hardware VAX, we can get back to the console from the OPA > terminal using a CTRL P key. Usefull to do some deposit, for example to > initiate

Re: [Simh] going back to the VAX console with CTRL P

2019-08-06 Thread Mark Pizzolato
On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 10:19 AM, gérard Calliet wrote: > With a hardware VAX, we can get back to the console from the OPA terminal > using a CTRL P key. Usefull to do some deposit, for example to initiate > xDELTA. > > Is it something like that possible with simh? I tried it and no result.

Re: [Simh] going back to the VAX console with CTRL P

2019-08-06 Thread Jonathan Welch
It would make sense to add some conditional code so when a VAX emulator is compiled Ctrl-P is set as the console interrupt character. Ctrl-E is used when line editing. On Tue, Aug 6, 2019, 1:36 PM Mark Pizzolato wrote: > On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 10:19 AM, gérard Calliet wrote: > > With a

Re: [Simh] going back to the VAX console with CTRL P

2019-08-06 Thread Mark Pizzolato
Anyone is absolutely free to do what you suggest in their own configuration file. Changing the default simh behavior at this time would break all of the existing configurations that currently exist in the field. Not a good idea. From: Jonathan Welch [mailto:jhwe...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday,

[Simh] going back to the VAX console with CTRL P

2019-08-06 Thread gérard Calliet
Hello, With a hardware VAX, we can get back to the console from the OPA terminal using a CTRL P key. Usefull to do some deposit, for example to initiate xDELTA. Is it something like that possible with simh? I tried it and no result. Do I miss something? Gérard Calliet

Re: [Simh] going back to the VAX console with CTRL P

2019-08-06 Thread Nelson H. F. Beebe
List discussions today have commented on the default of Ctl-E (ASCII 005) as the SIMH escape character, to return from a guest O/S to SIMH itself. That character is commonly used in the emacs editor family, and in Unix and TOPS-20 shells, usually to move to end of line. I was long ago

Re: [Simh] going back to the VAX console with CTRL P

2019-08-06 Thread Johnny Billquist
I think the key concept was "the simulator does not stop". Essentially, be able to give commands to simh while the simulated system continues running. Which would be a nice thing to be able to do when you just want to change which tape or disk is attached, for example. Johnny On 2019-08-06

Re: [Simh] going back to the VAX console with CTRL P

2019-08-06 Thread Ray Jewhurst
The biggest problem that I find is that unless you do a console, you lose your prompt and that is kind of annoying. It would be nice if you could re-echo if you will in order to keep continuity. Ray On Tue, Aug 6, 2019, 3:46 PM Johnny Billquist wrote: > I think the key concept was "the

Re: [Simh] going back to the VAX console with CTRL P

2019-08-06 Thread Mark Pizzolato
On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 11:28 AM, Nelson H. F. Beebe wrote: > List discussions today have commented on the default of Ctl-E (ASCII > 005) as the SIMH escape character, to return from a guest O/S to SIMH itself. > > That character is commonly used in the emacs editor family, and in Unix and

Re: [Simh] going back to the VAX console with CTRL P

2019-08-06 Thread Richard Cornwell
Hi All, What I would rather see then an automatic connection of the console to a telnet port, is the command processor running in a thread so that when you ^E your simulator does not stop. Perhaps this could be toggle able for testing purposes. SIMH already support redirecting the

Re: [Simh] going back to the VAX console with CTRL P

2019-08-06 Thread Richard Cornwell
Hi Mark, It does but is cumbersome. If all I want to do is attach or detach a device or change a setting I have to connect up to the remote port and issue the command. Would be nice just to hit ^E execute the commands I want and then ^E to get back to simulator. Rich > On Tuesday,

Re: [Simh] going back to the VAX console with CTRL P

2019-08-06 Thread Clem Cole
Nelson (and Mark), IMO, this is the issue with in-band systems. No matter what you pick, it is going to conflict with something. ^P was an issue on the vax console. Hey ^S/^Q being 'in-band' has always been an issue for lots of things (which is why us UNIX types used DH11's with RTS/CTS

Re: [Simh] going back to the VAX console with CTRL P

2019-08-06 Thread Mark Pizzolato
On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 12:20 PM, Richard Cornwell wrote: >What I would rather see then an automatic connection of the console >to a telnet port, is the command processor running in a thread so >that when you ^E your simulator does not stop. Perhaps this could be >toggle able

Re: [Simh] going back to the VAX console with CTRL P

2019-08-06 Thread gérard Calliet
Hello, I didn't want to be boring and create a philosophical discution. It was a naïve question. And in fact, I could do what I wanted to do (ask for softint #14 to initiate xdelta debugger) by program. simh console and VAX emulated console have not same syntax to interact with registers,

Re: [Simh] going back to the VAX console with CTRL P

2019-08-06 Thread Jeremy Begg
Hi, >The simulator's console port can be separated from the control activites of >the simulator when it is connected to a TELNET session with the command: > > sim> SET CONSOLE TELNET=listenportnumber > >A telnet session to localhost:listenportnumber will have all characters passed

Re: [Simh] EXT : VAXstation 4000 Model 60

2019-08-06 Thread Jeremy Begg
Hi, A few weeks ago I commented that I was setting up a SIMH VAXstation 4000 and had noticed some failures in the console self-test. Since then I've had it running more or less continously and in general it works nicely, but I have noticed something odd: VMS logs a MEMORY ERROR every minute.