Re: [Simh] NVAX/CVAX-based VAXstation emulation?

Matt Burke has implemented the QDSS VCB02 Dragon colour graphics device in his side branch of SimH, as a VAXstation II. I’ve tried a prototype and it seems to work well, up to the limits of VS2 memory limits etc. I believe he intends to merge it into mainstream SimH in due course, as his time

[Simh] Win32 Binaries?

What's happened to the building of the SimH Win32-Development -Binaries - the latest ones on github seem to be from February, and the Readme says they are built at least once a week? Regards, -- Paul Hard Email: paul at the paulhardy.net domain, web:

Re: [Simh] CI Code Released

Matt Burke said: >> There are more simulations in the pipeline (HSC70, VAX 8200, VAXstation >> 2000, VAXstation 3100...). >> Hopefully I'll get these released soon too. I'm particularly interested in the VAXStation 3100 (and MicroVAX 3100) - I'm trying to ressurect an old LAVC system for

Re: [Simh] Getting SimH 4 past Beta stage?

Isn't it time that SimH 4.x came out of Beta status and became the current release, so it gets picked up by the various package release systems? I've just done apt-get install simh on a Raspberry Pi over a new Raspbian (Debian) install, and it still gets 3.8.1-5. What's the current

Re: [Simh] Mounting simh disk files in Linux

On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 08:36:46 + Joshua Overmiller wrote: > I'm having errors attaching the XQ controller to eth0. Post config and messages. > Note: I'm using Debian Jessie. Should work fine. > I also had problems when trying to make the simh targets. I got an error >

Re: [Simh] Mounting simh disk files in Linux

On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 14:35:52 + Joshua Overmiller wrote: > I will also want to get some files off the simh VAX. Hence the need to > mount the simh disk image files. > I'm struggling with getting the networking running in simh, so I'm looking > into this route. However,

Re: [Simh] Zork for ITS [was: Klh10 vs Simh]

On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 20:29:47 -0500 Clem Cole wrote: > I am under the impression that both Dungeon and Adventure are part of the > Intel compiler test suite (as they were for the DEC compilers), so I > suspect they will even run on on modern Mac's, Linux and Window's boxes if > you

Re: [Simh] pdp11 and unix

On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 08:49:15 +0100 (CET) Andreas Davour wrote: > "The over-all design of the LISP Programming System is the work of > John McCarthy and is based on his paper NRecursive Functions of > Symbolic Expressions and Their Computation by Machinett which was > published

Re: [Simh] pdp11 and unix

On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 23:05:47 +0100 Johnny Billquist wrote: > On 2016-02-27 20:46, Paul Koning wrote: > > > >> On Feb 27, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Bill Cunningham > >> wrote: > >> > >> Well that's certainly before ICs I think that was in the 1950s and it > >>

Re: [Simh] pdp11 and unix

On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 17:32:19 -0500 Paul Koning wrote: > Decimal did show up at times even into the 1960s, for example in the IBM > 1620. But it never made all that much sense; converting between binary > and decimal is quite easy even in those very old machines. The one

Re: [Simh] Cross Compilers (and memories thereof)

Indeed, the PL/M compiler comes with notes saying it was hosted on MTS. This thread could be the start of something very interesting! Thanks guys! On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 17:39:58 - "Dave Wade" wrote: > I note someone said MTS hosted several cross assemblers and

Re: [Simh] Interdata OS/32: hello-world in CAL32

On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 14:15:11 + "Armistead, Jason BIS" wrote: > Hosting on a VAX under VMS might be viewed as a little extreme when the > target had less than 64K of EPROM and a few K of RAM, but it worked. That's what I meant. I know what a cross compiler

Re: [Simh] Interdata OS/32: hello-world in CAL32

Thanks very much for the additional info. Your post was very timely since I read in the notes that come with the PL/M cross compiler that is being discussed that it was a cross-compiler hosted on MTS and VM/CMS. I don't think I ever came across a cross compiler in the old days. It is interesting

Re: [Simh] Compatibility you can use Was: VAX/VMS

On Mon, 22 Feb 2016 11:13:37 - "Dave Wade" wrote: > > > > > > You can't seriously mean that you think that a 32-bit application and > > > a 64-bit application would be expected to be compatible with each > > > other? I would expect the 32-bit code to work in 32-bit

Re: [Simh] Compatibility you can use Was: VAX/VMS

On Mon, 22 Feb 2016 10:07:10 +0100 Johnny Billquist wrote: > On 2016-02-22 07:07, li...@openmailbox.org wrote: > > However, we see that Intel's hardware compatability is only of academic > > interest because virtually none of the OS or apps for several > > generations of Intel

Re: [Simh] Compatibility you can use Was: VAX/VMS

On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 08:50:45 -0500 Clem Cole wrote: > To pick on DEC (or IBM), the later generations of their respective ISAs > cannot boot the older OS – which Intel’s primary ISA can – and that is > what started this discussion. I can't speak to DEC's issues but with IBM has

Re: [Simh] Interdata OS/32: hello-world in CAL32

Thanks for the very interesting info! I have not come across this machine or software and did not know anything about it. On Thu, 18 Feb 2016 21:16:32 -0500 Davis Johnson wrote: > I'm pretty sure the resemblance was intentional so as to be an easier > sell to customers

Re: [Simh] VAX/VMS

On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 11:52:17 -0500 Paul Koning wrote: > > > On Feb 16, 2016, at 9:56 AM, Timothe Litt wrote: > > > > ... > > Nonetheless, Brooks (@IBM) definitely gets credit for the first > > commercial line of architecturally (forward) compatible

Re: [Simh] VAX/VMS

On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 11:25:37 -0500 Clem Cole wrote: > Unless you are using a cell phone, I'm willing to bet that you are typing > your messages on a INTEL*64 architecture system, even if the processor is > not made by Intel. Nope! Sun Blade!

Re: [Simh] Interdata OS/32: hello-world in CAL32

Fascinating and very similar in syntax to the assembler for IBM OS/360 and later. Does anybody know the history behind this? On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 13:58:26 -0500 (EST) dst...@execulink.com (Don Stalkowski) wrote: > *L EDIT32 > TSKID = EDIT32 > *ST > *13:19:38 EDIT32:PERKIN-ELMER OS/32 EDIT

Re: [Simh] vax simh and loading file

On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 13:36:29 +0100 Rhialto wrote: > On Fri 12 Feb 2016 at 15:17:26 -0800, Bill Deegan wrote: > > For the PAKs I just copy/pasted to get things going. That worked fine. > > Bring it up in a text editor on host machine, select all. Then in your > > simh window you

Re: [Simh] error

On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 13:58:59 -0800 Mark Pizzolato wrote: > You may recall that older computers didn't have a way to programmatically > power themselves down. > > VMS is one of those systems. > > When you shutdown a VMS system it closes all files and cleans up > everything

Re: [Simh] SIMH and physical hardware

Hi, I felt a twinge of sorrow reading your post but I am glad you posted it. There are certainly many people on this list who do or did own actual hardware but you have to remember many people who used these machines back in the day never saw the machine or came near it. In most universities and

[Simh] [Announce] Emacs 21.2 for VMS/VAX

Hopefully the following information will be of some interest and value to people running VMS/VAX on SIMH. Because of keyboard issues I found the native VMS editors to be difficult to use. I have been using Emacs for a long time on other platforms so I went looking for a copy to run on VMS/VAX but

Re: [Simh] VAX Architecture Editions

On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 12:57:02 -0500 Bob Supnik wrote: > You'll miss the late additions to the architecture for NVAX and the 9000. Thanks. > However, you can get the 1990 version, in its internal DEC form rather > than book form, from >

Re: [Simh] [OT] What's the difference between the 1990 Brunner VAX Architecture book and the Leonard from 1987?

On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 13:15:59 -0500 Paul Koning wrote: > > > On Jan 28, 2016, at 1:05 PM, Tom Morris wrote: > > > > You'll get better answers if you're more explicit with your references. > > Paul took at guess at what you meant. I'm going to make a

[Simh] [OT] What's the difference between the 1990 Brunner VAX Architecture book and the Leonard from 1987?

Hi, Since there are some ex-DEC people here and many people knowledgeable in VAX can anybody tell me the [major] differences between these books if any? The Brunner book is very expensive, the 1987 copy is very affordable. What do I miss out on by buying the one by Timothy Leonard from 1987? I

Re: [Simh] [OT] What's the difference between the 1990 Brunner VAX Architecture book and the Leonard from 1987?

Thank you so much. That's a wonderfully complete and very helpful answer. I will save your email for future reference. On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 12:04:17 -0500 Paul Koning wrote: > > > On Jan 28, 2016, at 5:28 AM, li...@openmailbox.org wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Since there

Re: [Simh] VAX Architecture Editions

On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 16:23:32 -0500 (EST) Rich Alderson wrote: > > Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 18:18:50 + > > From: li...@openmailbox.org > > > On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 12:57:02 -0500 > > Bob Supnik wrote: > > >> However, you can get the 1990 version,

[Simh] How to set up network bridge for SIMH on Solaris host?

Hi, Can anyone please explain how to set up a network bridge on a Solaris host for SIMH? I have searched the net and can't find any examples of people running SIMH on Solaris. Thank you. -- Please DO NOT COPY ME on mailing list replies. I read the mailing list. RSA 4096 fingerprint 7940 3F02

Re: [Simh] How to set up network bridge for SIMH on Solaris host?

On Sun, 3 Jan 2016 15:55:34 +0100 Jan Vlach wrote: > > There has to be a way to do this, right? ;-) > > Hi, > > haven't tested this myself in combination with simh, but I remember > correctly, there used to be a weay to get tun/tap in solaris 10: > >

Re: [Simh] How to set up network bridge for SIMH on Solaris host?

Hi, On Sun, 3 Jan 2016 04:24:23 -0800 Mark Pizzolato wrote: > On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 1:46 AM, li...@openmailbox.org wrote: > > Can anyone please explain how to set up a network bridge on a Solaris > > host for SIMH? I have searched the net and can't find any examples

Re: [Simh] How to set up network bridge for SIMH on Solaris host?

On Sun, 3 Jan 2016 04:49:58 -0800 Mark Pizzolato wrote: > On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 4:40 AM, li...@openmailbox.org wrote: > > On Sun, 3 Jan 2016 04:24:23 -0800 Mark Pizzolato > > wrote: > > > > > On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 1:46 AM,

Re: [Simh] How to set up network bridge for SIMH on Solaris host?

Hi, On Sun, 3 Jan 2016 14:32:54 +0100 Hans Rosenfeld wrote: > On Sun, Jan 03, 2016 at 09:46:23AM +, li...@openmailbox.org wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Can anyone please explain how to set up a network bridge on a Solaris > > host for SIMH? I have searched the net

Re: [Simh] How to set up network bridge for SIMH on Solaris host?

On Sun, 3 Jan 2016 15:04:14 +0100 Hans Rosenfeld wrote: > On Sun, Jan 03, 2016 at 01:55:00PM +, li...@openmailbox.org wrote: > > > On illumos I usually just create a vnic over a real ethernet > > > interface, and attach the simulator to that: > > > > > > #

Re: [Simh] Tutorial on setting up RT-11 v5.3 in SimH PDP-11

On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 16:17:26 -0600 Will Senn wrote: > All, > > I have posted a new blog entry in the form of a tutorial on setting up > and using RT-11 v5.3 in SimH. It is accessible via: > > http://decuser.blogspot.com/2015/12/tutorial-setting-up-rt-11-v53-on-simh.html

Re: [Simh] Feasibility of connecting physical LK to emulated LK device

On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 23:51:47 -0800 (PST) b...@gewt.net wrote: > As it is largely just serial, I can think of museum displays this could > benefit (next pet project: SDL in a console framebuffer) due to the > simple adapter needed (http://www.wickensonline.co.uk/vaxen/linuxLK.html) > > Thoughts?

Re: [Simh] GOLD Keys and such

On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 14:26:20 -0500 Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: > However, in the IBM mainframe world, there were the "typewriter" > terminals, like the 1052-7 and 3215. Also, let's not forget the IBM > 2703 Communications Control unit; which had the option of using

Re: [Simh] GOLD Keys and such

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 15:44:26 -0500 Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: > On 19 December 2015 at 14:42, Random832 wrote: > > Its UI may be clunky or dated, but as far as emulation capabilities go, > > xterm really is the cadillac of VT100 emulators.

Re: [Simh] Mark's mailbox full

It might be helpul to post this to comp.os.vms too, since new development on VMS is in the works and security is high on their list of things to work on. On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 15:06:06 + Armistead, Jason BIS jason.armist...@otis.com wrote: I actually find it interesting how much it

Re: [Simh] SimH and multi-core host processors

On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 13:01:49 -0700 Mark Pizzolato - Info Comm m...@infocomm.com wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 11:14 AM, li...@openmailbox.org wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 10:21:20 -0700 Mark Pizzolato - Info Comm m...@infocomm.com wrote: Simh v3.8-1 did not detect idle for

Re: [Simh] VAX vectors

On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 14:42:42 +0200 Rhialto rhia...@falu.nl wrote: On Fri 10 Jul 2015 at 09:33:56 +, li...@openmailbox.org wrote: I think you could argue at the beginning System/360 did have things in common with what would later be called RISC although z/Architecture has overshadowed a

Re: [Simh] Off topic: ULTRIX question

On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 06:52:18 -0500 Gary Lee Phillips tivo.ov...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Clem and Johnny for at least confirming what I suspected. I worked with VMS on Vaxen in the 80s, At the time I wished for an opportunity to compare VMS with UNIX on the same hardware. In the 90s I worked

Re: [Simh] Off topic: ULTRIX question

of distribution CDs. One of the BSD flavors might suit, but it's very difficult to be sure from the descriptions that are offered. Ask on the mailing lists and if it is something you want to try you can probably find somebody willing to burn CDs (yep, don't even need a DVD) for whatever you want

Re: [Simh] Off topic: ULTRIX question

are really curious ask on the mailing lists about your specific hardware. I used to be able to recommend NetBSD but that was a long time ago. Same thing with FreeBSD. Those two just do not run on non-Intel hardware the way they used to. Most of the interested developers appear to have gone to greener

Re: [Simh] Off topic: ULTRIX question

On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 14:45:24 +0200 Johnny Billquist b...@softjar.se wrote: What is your definition of real Unix? Ultrix is sortof a BSD-derivative. I hope you understand that. If so and if the OP was aware of that then OpenBSD would be a good option. The problem with Ultrix is not

Re: [Simh] Off topic: ULTRIX question

On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 09:18:22 -0400 Patrick Finnegan p...@computer-refuge.org wrote: On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 7:08 PM, li...@openmailbox.org wrote: On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 17:20:19 -0500 Gary Lee Phillips tivo.ov...@gmail.com wrote: There is still Linux for Alpha, Johnny, though it's

Re: [Simh] VAX vectors

On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 14:53:21 -0600 Richard legal...@xmission.com wrote: In article 559ebe8a.2010...@softjar.se, Johnny Billquist b...@softjar.se writes: On 2015-07-09 20:26, Eric Smith wrote: Would anyone mind posting a short assembly snippet of a VAX vector instruction used in

Re: [Simh] simh

* On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 07:41:30PM -0500, Bill Cunningham bill...@suddenlink.net wrote: Are there any docs about the way simh is constructed? Is it an API? I know it emulates CPUs but what else? There sure are. If you're looking for the technical nitty-gritty, you can find a document

[Simh] Is Alpha AXP in SIMH's future?

Is an Alpha machine capable of running OpenVMS in SIMH's future? I know there are several Alpha emulators for Linux and Windows but I really like SIMH since it runs on pretty much any UNIX-like OS and doesn't depend on having a 64-bit Linux installed. Thank you for SIMH.

Re: [Simh] Getting rsxs to run on the pdp11 emulator

Thank you so much for posting this. I haven't tried anything but OpenVMS VAX under SIMH yet but looking around for what else I could run on it I found bits and pieces of info scattered all over the net. The most frustrating thing was finding pages where people wrote to be continued at the end of a

Re: [Simh] Is Alpha AXP in SIMH's future?

On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 09:31:58 -0800 Mark Pizzolato - Info Comm m...@infocomm.com wrote: On Tuesday, March 3, 2015 at 9:26 AM, li...@openmailbox.org wrote: Is an Alpha machine capable of running OpenVMS in SIMH's future? I know there are several Alpha emulators for Linux and Windows but I

Re: [Simh] Is Alpha AXP in SIMH's future?

Hi, I don't understand (a) unless this is referring specially to Intel. For (b) I didn't imagine needing so much memory for a guest. Right now I'm running SIMH on a MIPS III (64 bit) box under OpenBSD and on Solaris SPARC (sun4u). SIMH builds and runs on everything I have. I don't use Windows

Re: [Simh] Is Alpha AXP in SIMH's future?

On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 13:34:51 -0800 Sergey Oboguev obog...@yahoo.com wrote: My comment was is not about Intel vs. non-Intel, but about having 64-bit as a native type in host machine instructions and leveraged by the compiler, rather than simulated by 32-bit host operations. I thought there was