Re: [Simh] TSS-8 and ETOS free-redistribution licenses (PDP-8 operating systems)

2017-01-18 Thread Clem Cole
On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Al Kossow wrote: > At Carnegie-Mellon (CMU), a TSS/8 > operated until 1974 when the special swapping disk expired. > ​indeed. The system ended up in the Boston Computing Museum and the disk (removed from its housing) used to hang ​in Danny

Re: [Simh] TSS-8 and ETOS free-redistribution licenses (PDP-8 operating systems)

2017-01-17 Thread Rich Alderson
> From: Al Kossow > Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 12:07:59 -0800 > On 1/16/17 12:02 PM, Rich Alderson wrote: >> I don't recall any mention of CMU in his story, but perhaps the other person >> was from CMU. I can ask him, of course. > "Computer Engineering" pg 180 Thanks, Al! I

Re: [Simh] TSS-8 and ETOS free-redistribution licenses (PDP-8 operating systems)

2017-01-16 Thread Al Kossow
On 1/16/17 12:02 PM, Rich Alderson wrote: > I don't recall any mention of CMU in his story, but perhaps the other person > was from CMU. I can ask him, of course. > "Computer Engineering" pg 180 Another interesting application was the TSSj8 small-scale general purpose timesharing system

Re: [Simh] TSS-8 and ETOS free-redistribution licenses (PDP-8 operating systems)

2017-01-16 Thread Rich Alderson
> From: Rick Murphy > Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 14:29:01 -0500 > On 1/14/2017 8:29 AM, Clement T. Cole wrote: Regarding TSS-8: >> Anyway, I always thought it was created by a customer and DEC >> educational system group redistributed it. > The ideas around TSS/8

Re: [Simh] TSS-8 and ETOS free-redistribution licenses (PDP-8 operating systems)

2017-01-14 Thread Johnny Billquist
Hi, Bob. On 2017-01-15 00:38, Robert Armstrong wrote: Johnny Billquist wrote: I am pretty sure that DEC did release OS/8 at some point. DEC released OS/278, including sources, to DECUS back when the latter still carried PDP-8 software. It even had an official "8-nnn" DECUS number; I

Re: [Simh] TSS-8 and ETOS free-redistribution licenses (PDP-8 operating systems)

2017-01-14 Thread Robert Armstrong
> Johnny Billquist wrote: >I am pretty sure that DEC did release OS/8 at some point. DEC released OS/278, including sources, to DECUS back when the latter still carried PDP-8 software. It even had an official "8-nnn" DECUS number; I don't remember it off hand, but I could find out. As far

Re: [Simh] TSS-8 and ETOS free-redistribution licenses (PDP-8 operating systems)

2017-01-14 Thread David Gesswein
On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 11:18:17PM +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote: > >As for ETOS, that wasn't a DEC product, so I have no better guess for > >where to go trying to find a license for it other than web search > >engines, and I've already struck out there. > > I do not believe it was ever released

Re: [Simh] TSS-8 and ETOS free-redistribution licenses (PDP-8, operating systems)

2017-01-14 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2017-01-14 18:53, Bob Supnik wrote: ETOS was not a DEC product. I don't know what its terms and conditions are. Agree. DEC made all its PDP8 and PDP15 software into freeware at some point, after the last systems had been out of production for years and years, but I have no idea where

Re: [Simh] TSS-8 and ETOS free-redistribution licenses (PDP-8 operating systems)

2017-01-14 Thread Johnny Billquist
Hi. On 2017-01-14 10:06, Warren Young wrote: I'm the current maintainer of the PiDP-8/I software project . I've been going through the files we distribute to make sure we have proper licenses for them and have come up short on a few things: the

Re: [Simh] TSS-8 and ETOS free-redistribution licenses (PDP-8 operating systems)

2017-01-14 Thread Al Kossow
On 1/14/17 11:29 AM, Rick Murphy wrote: > There's a set of sources available for download apparently from > someone who retyped the source. John Wilson https://github.com/lisper/cpus-pdp8/tree/master/tss8.2 and http://www.heeltoe.com/index.php?n=Cpus.Pdp8Tss-8 There are also copies on

Re: [Simh] TSS-8 and ETOS free-redistribution licenses (PDP-8 operating systems)

2017-01-14 Thread Rick Murphy
On 1/14/2017 8:29 AM, Clement T. Cole wrote: Hmmm. I've forgotten / not sure I ever knew -- but I did not think TSS-8 was an official product. I may be confusing / mixing memories here 樂 - but I thought I remember the sources kicking around. (In truth, I'm not sure I c |an help much as I

Re: [Simh] TSS-8 and ETOS free-redistribution licenses (PDP-8, operating systems)

2017-01-14 Thread Bob Supnik
ETOS was not a DEC product. I don't know what its terms and conditions are. DEC made all its PDP8 and PDP15 software into freeware at some point, after the last systems had been out of production for years and years, but I have no idea where there is any supporting paperwork. On 1/14/2017

Re: [Simh] TSS-8 and ETOS free-redistribution licenses (PDP-8 operating systems)

2017-01-14 Thread Clement T. Cole
Hmmm. I've forgotten / not sure I ever knew -- but I did not think TSS-8 was an official product. I may be confusing / mixing memories here 樂 - but I thought I remember the sources kicking around. (In truth, I'm not sure I can help much as I was late to TSS-8). Anyway, I always thought

[Simh] TSS-8 and ETOS free-redistribution licenses (PDP-8 operating systems)

2017-01-14 Thread Warren Young
I'm the current maintainer of the PiDP-8/I software project . I've been going through the files we distribute to make sure we have proper licenses for them and have come up short on a few things: the TSS-8 and ETOS disk images. I've simply been unable