Re: [Sip-implementors] Question on Requests within a Dialog (Sec 12.2)

2007-07-12 Thread Paul Kyzivat
Girish, There are no rules here. IETF only standardizes the protocol, not the construction of stacts that support it. You are free to construct the stack any way you, and the users of your stack, desire. Paul Girish Moodalbail wrote: > Thanks Robert for the response. > > From your re

Re: [Sip-implementors] Question on Requests within a Dialog (Sec 12.2)

2007-07-12 Thread Girish Moodalbail
Thanks Robert for the response. From your reply I understood that within a dialog if a re-INVITE is issued than the dialog layer in the SIP Stack should not populate the Contact header of the re-INVITE request. It's left to the application to add the same Contact header (if it has not changed

Re: [Sip-implementors] Question on Requests within a Dialog (Sec 12.2)

2007-07-12 Thread Robert Sparks
Both are used. Typically stacks layer what they offer - they have a transaction layer that doesn't know about dialogs and a higher layer that abstracts dialogs into things like calls or subscriptions. The first thing would not autopopulate the local target (in the contact). The second typica

[Sip-implementors] Question on Requests within a Dialog (Sec 12.2)

2007-07-12 Thread girishmg
Hello all, I have this question on creating a request within the dialog. As per the RFC 3261, Section 12.2.1.1 "Generating the Request", that UAC should add the contact header. " A UAC SHOULD include a Contact header field in any target refresh requests within a dialog, and unless there is

Re: [Sip-implementors] Question Regarding NAT Query

2007-07-12 Thread Dale . Worley
From: "Santosh Yadawad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> When UA sends INVITE message it will query the NAT and will get the public ip-address from its private ip-address. So what will be the contact header field in INVITE Message weather its public ip (obtained from NAT) or it's a private (lo

Re: [Sip-implementors] How to update callee's display name?

2007-07-12 Thread Zarko Coklin
Thanks to all who responded! I find P-Asserted-Identity to be the best solution and here is why. 1. Because of its simplicity it is very likely already supported by major telecom companies. 2. What Michael suggested may be used but has serious limitations as pointed out by Chandra. In addition,

Re: [Sip-implementors] When is next sipit event? Any plan?

2007-07-12 Thread Robert Sparks
The event is currently planned for the week of November 5 in Beijing. We're still finalizing things with the host, so the details could change. Watch www.sipit.net for the official announcement and the start of registration. RjS On Jul 12, 2007, at 2:08 AM, Richard wrote: > > Dear all, > S

Re: [Sip-implementors] How to update callee's display name?

2007-07-12 Thread Chandra Sekhar Murthy M.V.V.
Hi Michael, Great response ..i understood but I want to say another scenario... If A calls B(where A and B are in different networks) and assume that B had enabled FMFM(finf me follow me) feature to C,D,E it means if B is not available then call be forwarded to C,D and E.Now finally when E gets

Re: [Sip-implementors] How to update callee's display name?

2007-07-12 Thread Michael Procter
Your description is basically right, but your conclusion is wrong! I'll try to explain a little more clearly. Assume a dialog (D1) between A and B, and that A wishes to change the name that B is displaying. To do this, A sends a new INVITE, creating a new dialog (D2). This new INVITE contains

Re: [Sip-implementors] How to update callee's display name?

2007-07-12 Thread Chandra Sekhar Murthy M.V.V.
Hi, "Replaces" header field is to replace an existing dialog.. Assume that session is established between A and B then A want to change the dialog ..then A has to send reINVITE request with "replaces " header field ..then if B accepts that reinvite then..for exisiting dialog it has to send

Re: [Sip-implementors] How to update callee's display name?

2007-07-12 Thread Michael Procter
In addition to Jerry's two suggestions, another popular technique is to send an INVITE with Replaces header instead of the reINVITE. You can update all manner of indications in the new initial INVITE, which most phones will use to update their display. See RFC 3891 for details of the replaces hea

[Sip-implementors] When is next sipit event? Any plan?

2007-07-12 Thread Richard
Dear all, Sorry to post this message in this newsgroup. I would like to when is the next SIPIT event. Actually we have joined 15th and 17th SIPIT event. Thank you very much. Regards Richard WU Senior Engineer Consumer Electronics ASTRI This message (including any attachments) is for the named