Re: Debianization
Idézem/Quoting Didier Kryn <didier.k...@free.fr>: Le 20/04/2018 à 07:48, SZÉPE Viktor a écrit : Idézem/Quoting Colin Booth <co...@heliocat.net>: On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 11:10:33PM +, Laurent Bercot wrote: Have any started (thinking about) packaging skalibs, execline and s6 the Debian policy-obeying way? What does that mean? If it's just FHS, skarnet.org follows FHS by default, so there's no problem here. Are there other constraints restricting what a Debian package can do? It's technically a pile of things: libs/skalibs (the .so) lib-devel/skalivs-dev (the .a for compiling against lang/execline lib/libexecline (the .so) lib-devel/libexecline-dev (the .a again) and so on. I have sort-of complaint packages that I used to get my build chain working for a project at work, but correctly separating stuff isa chunk of work. Doable, just obnoxious. In a previous message: ... into both .deb's and .rpm's using fpm without much fuss. That much fuss includes 859 lintian tags e.g. gcc hardening, rc scripts for essential Debian packages, a systemd->s6 migration utility etc. https://lintian.debian.org/tags.html So basically I type apt-get install s6 and it makes systemd disappear, and all these basic services work after reboot: cgroupfs-mount console-setup.sh cron dbus hwclock.sh keyboard-setup.sh kmod networking procps rsync rsyslog ssh udev Is there a documentation how to turn e.g. 'networking' into an s6 rc? SZÉPE Viktor, honlap üzemeltetés / Running your application https://github.com/szepeviktor/debian-server-tools/blob/master/CV.md May I humbly ask why you don't start with Devuan (which is Debian stripped out of systemd)? Of course it is less challenging than doing the job on Debian, but it would be wholehartedly applauded and tested by the Devuan community, while you shouldn't expect much recognition from Debian. Didier Thank you for the advise! Actually my first step of setting up a production Debian-based server is reverting back to SysVinit https://github.com/szepeviktor/debian-server-tools/blob/master/debian-setup.sh#L88-L90 Currently I haven't reached a single boot, so it is a task for me to migrate the above listed services to *native* s6-rc. SZÉPE Viktor, honlap üzemeltetés / Running your application https://github.com/szepeviktor/debian-server-tools/blob/master/CV.md -- ügyelet/hotline: +36-20-4242498 s...@szepe.net skype: szepe.viktor Budapest, III. kerület
Re: Debianization
Idézem/Quoting Colin Booth <co...@heliocat.net>: On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 11:10:33PM +, Laurent Bercot wrote: > Have any started (thinking about) packaging skalibs, execline and s6 > the Debian policy-obeying way? What does that mean? If it's just FHS, skarnet.org follows FHS by default, so there's no problem here. Are there other constraints restricting what a Debian package can do? It's technically a pile of things: libs/skalibs (the .so) lib-devel/skalivs-dev (the .a for compiling against lang/execline lib/libexecline (the .so) lib-devel/libexecline-dev (the .a again) and so on. I have sort-of complaint packages that I used to get my build chain working for a project at work, but correctly separating stuff is a chunk of work. Doable, just obnoxious. In a previous message: ... into both .deb's and .rpm's using fpm without much fuss. That much fuss includes 859 lintian tags e.g. gcc hardening, rc scripts for essential Debian packages, a systemd->s6 migration utility etc. https://lintian.debian.org/tags.html So basically I type apt-get install s6 and it makes systemd disappear, and all these basic services work after reboot: cgroupfs-mount console-setup.sh cron dbus hwclock.sh keyboard-setup.sh kmod networking procps rsync rsyslog ssh udev Is there a documentation how to turn e.g. 'networking' into an s6 rc? SZÉPE Viktor, honlap üzemeltetés / Running your application https://github.com/szepeviktor/debian-server-tools/blob/master/CV.md -- ügyelet/hotline: +36-20-4242498 s...@szepe.net skype: szepe.viktor Budapest, III. kerület
Debianization
Hello! Have any started (thinking about) packaging skalibs, execline and s6 the Debian policy-obeying way? SZÉPE Viktor, honlap üzemeltetés / Running your application https://github.com/szepeviktor/debian-server-tools/blob/master/CV.md -- ügyelet/hotline: +36-20-4242498 s...@szepe.net skype: szepe.viktor Budapest, III. kerület
Re: tests
Oh, definitely, and s6 is already used in numerous Docker containers. Most people who want to do that use the s6-overlay project: https://github.com/just-containers/s6-overlay Thank you for the link! Some big companies (Badoo, for instance) rely on s6 to power their containers, so I think it's a good testimony to the fact that it works :) Do they contribute back? SZÉPE Viktor, honlap üzemeltetés https://github.com/szepeviktor/debian-server-tools/blob/master/CV.md -- +36-20-4242498 s...@szepe.net skype: szepe.viktor Budapest, III. kerület