Re: [SLUG] Weird DNS prob

2002-02-26 Thread Grant Parnell
On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, zipworld mail wrote: Not sure if this is the forum but both sites do use linux! I can't send email to a particular host I know well. They can't send me email. I can't ping or traceroute to them and visa versa, yet we're both able to see and access the rest of the

Re: [SLUG] Perl Net::FTP problem

2002-02-26 Thread Grant Parnell
On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Kerry Seibold wrote: Hi all, I've got a Perl Net::FTP problem. My script to get a file from my telstra adsl homepage doesn't work. ncftpget -u myuserid -p mypassword ftp.users.bigpond.net.au /tmp index.html works fine but my script (see below) hangs at

RE: [SLUG] Linux and Telstra ADSL

2002-02-26 Thread Grant Parnell
On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Howard Lowndes wrote: On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Francois Haasbroek wrote: Every LUG that I visit has some stuff on using an old 486 as firewall. Some claim that you can do it without a hard drive even. So I thought a 350 MB disk with 32 MB Ram should do the job. I

Re: [SLUG] Shocking Service

2002-02-26 Thread Grant Parnell
On Sat, 23 Feb 2002, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=paul This i feel is shocking service, we as a group spen more then $800 there and they give us this shocking service. I think that SLUG should re-asses its dinner arrangments if this is the kind of service that we recive. Hi, We've

[SLUG] Solaris 8 vs Linux

2002-02-26 Thread grant
Hi everyone Could anybody help with some constructive comments on which OS would be the better for running ISP related services ( web, dns radius etc ) ? Which one is better for stability, available software, scalability ? Currently we use RH 7.2 for some tasks within our network, but those

Re: [SLUG] Solaris 8 vs Linux

2002-02-26 Thread Jon Biddell
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 22:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone Could anybody help with some constructive comments on which OS would be the better for running ISP related services ( web, dns radius etc ) ? Which one is better for stability, available software, scalability ? We've just

Re: [SLUG] Toshiba laptop

2002-02-26 Thread Jon Biddell
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 01:27, Henry T Wijaya wrote: Ken Foskey wrote: On Mon, 2002-02-25 at 12:36, Colin Humphreys wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2002 at 10:49:52AM +1100, Ken Foskey wrote: snip I still have not figured out the little thumb mouse pointer on the toshiba. Does anyone have this set

Re: [SLUG] Another place to eat

2002-02-26 Thread Jon Biddell
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 10:30, Michael Lake wrote: Jon Biddell wrote: They can charge, I think, a MAXIMUM of $0.20 for a glass of water - I remember seeing it somewhere in the Fair Trading Act when I was studying Law - I'll try to find the reference for curiosity value...:-) Good luck :-)

Re: [SLUG] Solaris 8 vs Linux

2002-02-26 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Could anybody help with some constructive comments on which OS would be the better for running ISP related services ( web, dns radius etc ) ? Which one is better for stability, available software, scalability ? It depends on what you're familiar with, to a large

Re: [SLUG] Solaris 8 vs Linux

2002-02-26 Thread Tony Green
* On Tue Feb 26, 2002 at 10:30:27PM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi everyone Could anybody help with some constructive comments on which OS would be the better for running ISP related services ( web, dns radius etc ) ? Which one is better for stability, available

Re: [SLUG] Solaris 8 vs Linux

2002-02-26 Thread VK2COT
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 22:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone Could anybody help with some constructive comments on which OS would be the better for running ISP related services ( web, dns radius etc ) ? Which one is better for stability, available software, scalability ? Hello,

Re: [SLUG] Solaris 8 vs Linux

2002-02-26 Thread Ken Foskey
On Tue, 2002-02-26 at 22:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Currently we use RH 7.2 for some tasks within our network, but those within the company with decision making ability are investigating the possibility of replacing it with Solaris 8. The general consensus is that with Open Source

[SLUG] Verba Volant

2002-02-26 Thread request
We have been requested to insert the following email address, [EMAIL PROTECTED], in the Verba Volant Newsletter database. Through this daily service you will receive a quotation, selected from amongst the most celebrated philosophers, writers and poets of all time and translated into many

Re: [SLUG] Solaris 8 vs Linux

2002-02-26 Thread Catie Flick
On 26 Feb, Tony Green wrote: The security issue you are talking about, in my opinion, is not a real issue but a 'management issue'. They don't understand that the security through obscurity which MS is pushing is not the way to go. But there *are* security issues with Solaris (recently a

[SLUG] Firewalls

2002-02-26 Thread Andrew Burrows
Hi All, I was wondering if someone could advise me on the best firewall produce to use on a Linux OS. Looking for something that may resemble say Firewall1 or similar?? Andrew -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info:

[SLUG] Shutdown sequence on Kondara 2.0(Redhat 7.1 Based) hangs

2002-02-26 Thread Antony Stace
Hi Ladies and Gentlemen Everytime I shutdown my computer(Kondara 2.0, based on Redhat 7.1) the shutdown sequence always hangs, the last messaage on the screen is starting killall: su(pam_unix)[2689] session opened for user tomcat by(uid=0) The shutdown sequence just stays on this script and

Re: [SLUG] Firewalls

2002-02-26 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, Andrew Burrows wrote: I was wondering if someone could advise me on the best firewall produce to use on a Linux OS. Oh dear. We shall all don our asbestos underwear before getting into this one again. Linux doesn't have 'firewall products', per se. You use one of

RE: [SLUG] Firewalls

2002-02-26 Thread Chris Barnes
I think he's talking about a program for linux that helps you setup firewalling...like CheckPoint...thats what we use here..Last I checked CheckPoint wasn't free...i don't know how much money your planning to spend Andrew -- -Original Message- From: Matthew Palmer [mailto:[EMAIL

[SLUG] Re: ask something about Xlib

2002-02-26 Thread Angus Lees
On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 11:59:39PM +1100, Crossfire wrote: If your desire to learn how to program using Xlib, you should refer to souce code from simple X11 programs, the X11 programming manuals, and to any XLib tutorial material you can find. (There is a book about XLib and Motif

[SLUG] Western Sydney Linux User Group (WSLUG) is Back!

2002-02-26 Thread Rob Wilson
Greetings People's, After a long absense due to a lack of a suitable venue, I am happy to announce that Wslug has a new venue for holding meetings, will hold our 1st meeting on the 10th May 2002. Our New address is: The Richmond Neighbourhood Centre - Hall No.3 20 West

Re: [SLUG] Firewalls

2002-02-26 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Matthew Palmer Linux doesn't have 'firewall products', per se. You use one of ipfwadm, ipchains, or iptables (depending on kernel version) to set up rules in the kernel which are then used to block/allow/filter/redirect/whatever traffic between interfaces. All of which are

Re: [SLUG] Solaris 8 vs Linux

2002-02-26 Thread DaZZa
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could anybody help with some constructive comments on which OS would be the better for running ISP related services ( web, dns radius etc ) ? Which one is better for stability, available software, scalability ? That's a pretty loaded question.

RE: [SLUG] Shutdown sequence on Kondara 2.0(Redhat 7.1 Based) hangs

2002-02-26 Thread Chris Barnes
If its based on redhat 7.1 then have a look at /etc/rc.d/rc0.d/ These are the scripts that are run when your system going into run level 0 (power-off). Check them, you might find a fault that$B!G(Js causing it to hang... -- -Original Message- From: Antony Stace [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [SLUG] Firewalls

2002-02-26 Thread Catie Flick
On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 10:26:12AM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Matthew Palmer Linux doesn't have 'firewall products', per se. You use one of ipfwadm, ipchains, or iptables (depending on kernel version) to set up rules in the kernel which are then used to

RE: [SLUG] Solaris 8 vs Linux

2002-02-26 Thread Jill Rowling
If you are going to use the X86 platform, do not use Solaris. It is far too slow on that platform and you will be disappointed. OTOH if you want to use the SPARC platform, you have a choice of Linux or Solaris. I'd go for Solaris if it was SPARC platform, but then I'm biased. If I was asked to

Re: [SLUG] Firewalls

2002-02-26 Thread Andrew Burrows
I agree but I don't mind getting my teeth into something if it is going to do the job but I don't wish to spend hour going down a road and find the solution is not suitable. Andrew -- From: Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 10:26:12 +1100 To: Matthew Palmer [EMAIL

Re: [SLUG] Firewalls

2002-02-26 Thread Andrew Burrows
That sounds like a good place to start, thanks and I will keep you posted. I will also find out how much checkpoints firewall1 is and let you know. Andrew -- From: Catie Flick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 10:35:15 +1100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Firewalls

Re: [SLUG] Firewalls

2002-02-26 Thread PColbourn
Perhaps sluggers could suggest basic iptables config files or scripts that they have found useful in a given scenario? eg. Home desktop, linux domino server, proxy server I'll start with mine if people are interested. BTW: if you need something for Windows, checkout Tint Personal

Re: [SLUG] problems compiling Dia

2002-02-26 Thread Mark A. Bell
Peter Hardy kindly suggested: configure caches the results of its checks in config.cache. Here it looks like it's just referring to that file instead of doing the actual check. Try removing config.cache and running configure again. Thanks, Peter. I removed config.cache and now I have a new

Re: [SLUG] Firewalls

2002-02-26 Thread Graeme Robinson
On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, Andrew Burrows wrote: I agree but I don't mind getting my teeth into something if it is going to do the job but I don't wish to spend hour going down a road and find the solution is not suitable. Andrew - just a tip - don't 'top-post' (google if you don't know what this

Re: [SLUG] Firewalls

2002-02-26 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Andrew Burrows I agree but I don't mind getting my teeth into something if it is going to do the job but I don't wish to spend hour going down a road and find the solution is not suitable. As it happens, this was just mentioned elsewhere: http://fwbuilder.sourceforge.net/

Re: [SLUG] Firewalls

2002-02-26 Thread Andrew Burrows
Thanks Kerry I will have a look at Lokkit. I have only ever used Firewall1 + I have the hardening rules for Solaris but not linux. It has been a white since I worked in this area so I don't know how easy it would be to transfer the hardening rules form Solaris to Linux maybe someone out there

Re: [SLUG] Firewalls

2002-02-26 Thread Andrew Burrows
-- From: Graeme Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 11:25:14 +1100 (EST) To: Andrew Burrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED], Slug [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Firewalls On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, Andrew Burrows wrote: I agree but I don't mind

Re: [SLUG] Firewalls

2002-02-26 Thread Graeme Robinson
At 11:35 27/02/2002 +1100, Andrew Burrows wrote: Thanks for the tip on top-posting I agree, this is my first time on this group and the responses are fantastic. I have a machine that will do the job, Could you confirm the name of the firewall produce please. SME 5.1.2 (formerly e-smith) Just do

Re: [SLUG] Firewalls

2002-02-26 Thread Simon Wong
On Wed, 2002-02-27 at 10:35, Catie Flick wrote: Personally I've only ever used Bastille Linux to 'harden' a box, and have sat down with the 'Linux Firewalls' book by Ziegler (excellent excellent reference) and taught myself ip[chains|tables] because I didn't really trust the script generators

[SLUG] Re: Perl Net::FTP problem

2002-02-26 Thread Kerry Seibold
Reposted with debug detail now included. List directory hangs also. Any ideas? Cheers, Kerry. ftpget1.cgi (debug=1 for Net::FTP) output is: Net::FTP: Net::FTP(2.56) Net::FTP: Exporter(5.562) Net::FTP: Net::Cmd(2.18) Net::FTP: IO::Socket::INET(1.25) Net::FTP: IO::Socket(1.26) Net::FTP:

Re: [SLUG] Firewalls

2002-02-26 Thread Simon Wong
Linux doesn't have 'firewall products', per se. You use one of ipfwadm, ipchains, or iptables (depending on kernel version) to set up rules in the kernel which are then used to block/allow/filter/redirect/whatever traffic between interfaces. A question on iptables if I may?

Re: [SLUG] Re: Perl Net::FTP problem

2002-02-26 Thread getadog
On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 11:51:21AM +1100, Kerry Seibold wrote: Reposted with debug detail now included. List directory hangs also. Any ideas? Net::FTP=GLOB(0x8282e70) PASV Net::FTP=GLOB(0x8282e70) 530 Not logged in. I assume this means you're still in active mode and later when you try to

Re: [SLUG] Firewalls

2002-02-26 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Simon Wong Is it right (secure) that any user initiated connections e.g. icq are allowed through as they are connecting in response to an internal request? That's a basic stateful setup, so yes, it's okay. Other networks may require more stringent rules, however. :) However, if I

[SLUG] umask file permissions with samba

2002-02-26 Thread Peter Rundle
Sluggers, I've set up a samba server for a small office. The client computers are windoze95/8. Each person logs into windoze with their own user account and I've used user level security on the samba server and created the same users under linux. I've placed all the users in the same group so

RE: [SLUG] Solaris 8 vs Linux

2002-02-26 Thread grant
Thanks to all who replied. Even though it is a linux list, It was good to see objective comments on both OS. regards Grant -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug

Re: [SLUG] Re: Perl Net::FTP problem

2002-02-26 Thread Kerry Seibold
Thanks Deefer, Problem now solved. I wasn't setting passive mode correctly. It is not enough to use: $ftp-pasv() You need to pass the constructor option Passive: $ftp = Net::FTP-new($hostname, Passive=1); Cheers, Kerry - Original Message - From: getadog [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: SLUG

Re: [SLUG] umask file permissions with samba

2002-02-26 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Peter Rundle How can I configure samba so that the group has write permission. [public] comment = Public path = /home/PUBLIC public = yes writable = yes force user = staff force group = staff force create mode = 770 create mode = 770 force

[SLUG] hi

2002-02-26 Thread Kmaya001
i saw your mail regarding MS outlook to netscape. i need a favor. can you tell me how can receive my netscape.net mail in outlook express.

Re: [SLUG] umask file permissions with samba

2002-02-26 Thread Kerry Seibold
770 gives rwx permission to owner and group, --- to other. 660 gives rw- permission to owner and group, --- to other. Kerry. - Original Message - From: Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [SLUG] umask file

Re: [SLUG] Firewalls

2002-02-26 Thread Andrew Burrows
Hi Graeme, I had a look at www.e-smith.org looks ok I will install and let you know how I go. Thanks Andrew -- From: Graeme Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 11:54:25 +1100 To: Andrew Burrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Slug [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Firewalls

Re: [SLUG] umask file permissions with samba

2002-02-26 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Kerry Seibold 770 gives rwx permission to owner and group, --- to other. 660 gives rw- permission to owner and group, --- to other. Yeah, generally the file ones are set to 660, and having stuff readable to other is not good if you want to restrict it to a group. - Jeff --

Re: [SLUG] Firewalls

2002-02-26 Thread Simon Wong
On Wed, 2002-02-27 at 12:13, Jeff Waugh wrote: iptables -A INPUT -j DROP -d $ipaddress/$netmask --dport 22 would stop you from ssh'ing in to your machine... Probably not a good idea, but it's a good example. ;) Is there something to drop all connections to ports so you could set that

Re: [SLUG] Firewalls

2002-02-26 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Simon Wong Is there something to drop all connections to ports so you could set that after you had explicitly allowed certain ports? e.g. iptables -A INPUT -j DROP -d $ipaddress/$netmask --dport ALL ;-) If you don't define a destination port, you're just dropping all packages to

[SLUG] NVidia software DVD Player

2002-02-26 Thread Bill
Hi Guys, Saw press release re above today. Only mentions Intel based PCs, not specific OS. Should we all write asking re Linux see http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=IO_20020222_7836 Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info:

Re: [SLUG] Firewalls

2002-02-26 Thread PColbourn
iptables -A INPUT -j DROP or set the INPUT policy to DROP. Phil Simon Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27/02/2002 13:14 To: Slug [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: [SLUG] Firewalls On Wed, 2002-02-27 at 12:13, Jeff Waugh wrote:

Re: [SLUG] NVidia software DVD Player

2002-02-26 Thread Adam Kennedy
Or course, it mentions... NVDVD supports all of the industry standard DVD APIs, including DirectShowTM, DirectDrawTM, DirectSoundTM, and DirectX® Video Acceleration. The NVDVD architecture is uniquely scalable and tightly tailored to the DVD specification and the intricacies of the PC system

Re: [SLUG] umask file permissions with samba

2002-02-26 Thread getadog
On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 12:41:52PM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Kerry Seibold 770 gives rwx permission to owner and group, --- to other. 660 gives rw- permission to owner and group, --- to other. Yeah, generally the file ones are set to 660, and having stuff readable to other is

[SLUG] Partition blues: a story

2002-02-26 Thread PColbourn
What did I do? Short answer: Not really sure. I wanted to make another FAT16 partition for WINME. I had an experimental hurd partition (2G) that I didn't need, so I know from .bash_history that I did this: mkdosfs /dev/hda2 # to make the partition fdisk # not the tool I wanted

RE: [SLUG] Firewalls

2002-02-26 Thread Chris Barnes
Looking through the scripts isn't going to give you much of an idea of weather your firewall is going to do what you want unless you're an absolute guru when it comes to networking and network security and ipchains/ iptables/ ipfwadm you really need to bash your box with nessus and nmap to find

[SLUG] Linux for the servers, Windows for the PCs (Germany)

2002-02-26 Thread Stuart Guthrie
FYI: Another big win for GNU/Linux. For those of your out there promoting Linux, the German Government just decided to go Linux on their 150 internal servers. Bad luck Microsoft! Wonder if our government is conducting similiar evaluations? Next time maybe they'll move the desktop too. Go

[SLUG] can't stat mirror.pacific.net.au

2002-02-26 Thread Adam Bogacki
Hi, 'apt-get install cups' gives me the answer 'can't stat http://mirror.pacific.net.au ..' which I can't understand because it has worked before. I have attached my /etc/apt/sources/list in case there is an error I cannot see. Apologies if mutt is a bit rough - I have not yet set

Re: [SLUG] can't stat mirror.pacific.net.au

2002-02-26 Thread CaT
On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 03:03:42PM -0500, Adam Bogacki wrote: Hi, 'apt-get install cups' gives me the answer 'can't stat http://mirror.pacific.net.au ..' which I can't understand because it has worked before. I have attached my /etc/apt/sources/list in case there is an error I

Re: [SLUG] can't stat mirror.pacific.net.au

2002-02-26 Thread Colin Humphreys
They appear to have a sample sources.list at http://mirror.pacific.net.au/sample/sources.list Could you modify that to suit? And I got a bounce on your address - no user adam at slug.org.au On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 03:03:42PM -0500, Adam Bogacki wrote: Hi, 'apt-get install cups' gives

[SLUG] Squid SSL

2002-02-26 Thread Hartono, Susanto
Hi guys, Is there another way of getting remote address information in an SSL environment without using X-Forwarded-For header (since this header is unavailable during SSL)? Thanks. SH -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info:

[SLUG] OT - sendmail processes

2002-02-26 Thread David
I'm getting a huge number of NOQUEUE: no connection messages on my sendmail log. Corresponding to those there are lots of processes that look like this: [root@mail log]# ps ax | grep sendmail 486 ?S 0:21 sendmail: accepting connections on port 25 32559 ?S 0:00

Re: [SLUG] freeswan kernel config

2002-02-26 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Simon Wong I just installed the kernel-patch-freeswan deb package and reading the README it says set PATCH_THE_KERNEL=yes and then: Use PATCH_THE_KERNEL=YES - Jeff -- A rest with a fermata is the moral opposite of the fast food restaurant with express

[SLUG] Debian source package fails at build

2002-02-26 Thread Rob B
I'm trying to compile a source package from Debian testing on my Potato box. Here is the error: as root /home/loop# apt-get source apcupsd -b --no-download --ignore-missing Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Need to get 1525kB of source archives. Get:1

[SLUG] Re:ask perl(cant telnet)

2002-02-26 Thread henry
Dear Henry : I used Net::Telnet(perl-module) from www.cpan.org use strict ; I executed perl-script as follows: use Net::Telnet (); my $t = Net::Telnet-new(Timeout = 10, Prompt = '/bash\$ $/'); #'/bash\$ $/'-- regular-expression $t-open("myhost"); $t-login("henry",